A return to full trade by Xmas?

[Shallowhal]

Brokeback Johnny!!

[silverbullet]

Brokeback Johnny!!

Johnny's a player!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zHVFXorF38

[Shallowhal]

Great song!!

[Octavia1]

I can see Sean down in woodies buying rope

[john m]

Will Wet pubs open in July ? Im going with NO .How many at the All Ireland final .5000 max .There you go Hal more good News from me I havent been wrong so far .

[Dr. Martin Gooter Bling]

if the fuckin same fear porn narrative is maintained that this malarkey is'nt all a loada bollocks then the kip is destined for a further series of continuous lockdowns.

[Justin Time]

I woke up yesterday morning with a cold on me....... Sórt throat, cough, aches in me arms an legs.... And i got the scuttors...... Not because I had a virus but because I was absolutely shiteing meself that I had the covid........ Now How the fcuk in the name of jaysus did the common cold slip tru the lockdown social distance Joe Duffy "wash yur hands obstacles net

Perhaps you didn't wash your hands.

[Justin Time]

Which Christmas though?

[silverbullet]

With Orgone Iron open for business expect a lot of dead Donegallians.

[U Wha]

Who mentioned Dublin Bus ?It will be privatised with less terms and conditions for workers. The most expensive part of running a bus service is the investment in the Bus.

Have to disagree with ya on this part....

The bus isnt the most expensive part... wages for drivers is, even with reduced terms and conditions.

I agree with you that the writing is on the wall. The Government, rather than getting into any industrial relations argy bargy with the CIE unions, have adopted a slowly slowly approach and will erode Dublin Bus and Bus Eireanns Market share down to the point where unions will no longer have the same influence or power.

Go Ahead are a private operator on a fixed contract like the Luas operators and they have a different approach to industrial relations and the drivers are less militant and less likely to stop working in support of their fellow drivers in CIE.

Back to disagreeing on the bus part...

Say the bus costs €300k with a conservative working lifetime of 10 years. So that is €30k a year or approx €600 a week or approx €85 a day. Then allow 30% on top for insurance, maintenance etc. Thats approx €120 a day.

Whereas drivers conservatively cost about €25 an hour (When total cost of Wages, holiday pay and Employer PRSI is taken into account).

So on the 10 hour day for the bus it costs €120 compared to a minimum of €250 for the driver and that is being conservative. I would say the hourly rate is much higher for CIE drivers with any sort of service.

Just saying.

I didnt allow for fuel but thats probably another €50 a day (based on my experience driving a truck) and probably less with the new eco buses and fuel subsidies.

[Cool Boola]

So busses are dear to run...Im missing the point?

[Belker]

I woke up yesterday morning with a cold on me....... Sórt throat, cough, aches in me arms an legs.... And i got the scuttors...... Not because I had a virus but because I was absolutely shiteing meself that I had the covid........ Now How the fcuk in the name of jaysus did the common cold slip tru the lockdown social distance Joe Duffy "wash yur hands obstacles net

Ya got the pox Octy. Go get tested !

[U Wha]

So busses are dear to run...Im missing the point?

I won't answer for what point M was making but my point was that I disagreed with his opinion that the most expensive part of running a bus service is the investment in the bus. I backed up my opinion with information.

[john m]

If you dont have the bus you dont have any business you can hire casual labour and only pay for fuel when you drive .Therefor the most expensive part of running the business is the initial investment anything else is just costs related to operating . My point was that if you have the bus you wont make any money parking it up over night .Run the fuck out of it .You might run empty for a while but as soon as people realize its reliable they will use it .Look at the Luas they have added carrages to the original offering .

[Octavia1]

So busses are dear to run...Im missing the point?

I won't answer for what point M was making but my point was that I disagreed with his opinion that the most expensive part of running a bus service is the investment in the bus. I backed up my opinion with information.

I worked as a mechanic on the buses uwha.... Dont forget the land used for maintenance in the garages all in prime locations for development..... Donnybrook I'de alone is worth at least  a hundred million....ciontarf problaly 50 million then look at all the depots an garages round the country and your talking billions in assets,  Yur forgetting the corruption that's going on....the Potentiall for Brown envelope is Fukin off the scale a bonanza that cud put any politician up Ther wit the kinihans in the wealth stakes .. Ther threatening to reduce (steal)  me pension now cause they sayin they can't afford it..... Its Fuk all but it's mine......Anyway i dont know how much it costs per bus The cost of maintenance, and wages 
Doesn't really come into it....... Its about land grabbing......
And the go bus drivers will be on minimum wage with Fuk all pension or sick pay or free doctors or free travel throughout Europe or as many holidays and they'll be all immigrants who work for buttons........ Profit profit profit at the expense
Of the citizens..... Capitalism Thatcher an Reagan style........ Stick it up the working man's arse...... More poverty, more selling the people's land to developers and foreign banks to the highest bidder with the biggest. Brown envelope....... And
More homelessness  degradation..... Wer going back to dickens days.........
Gimme a Fukin gun an a uniform an 2 alstations