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You may now kiss the bride....the expert wedding.
« on: May 18, 2021, 08:36:53 am »
Does anyone remember the much announced wedding between NRC and Expert? The union was heralded as the future with two great dynasties merging into one. Lofty emails, a rebranding and press releases promised a bright future from the marriage of equals.
The reality of course was a little less bright and shiny. The only thing in common between the bride and groom was that they were running short of cash.
On the brides side stood the sausage man in his best frawleys suit and tie. Never one to let a lack of ability stand in his way he rang around radio stations to suggest all drivers should be confined to barracks as covid reared its head. Obviously this had little to do with actual drivers interests and more to do with his interests. Closing down the industry meant financial supports would have to be paid to the industry players by the tax payer. Covid had definitely hurt income but for the months prior large customer accounts had been jogging out the expert door and the revenue stream had already been depleted badly.

Before we get all teary eyed keep in mind that the sausage man was a victim of his own misfortune. The ploy of gobbling all the tasty work and feeding it to limo drivers for a larger % cut was destined to backfire. The taxi drivers began to notice the lack of good jobs and wondered why they were paying freight for crumbs. Clients got fed up being “upgraded” to a limo and sitting on pearse street in traffic while taxis whizzed by in the bus lane. Everyone voted with their feet. So even less drivers to cover the work meaning clients waiting even longer for a car and closing their account.

On the grooms side they were too busy on the 14th where the fairway runs alongside the river. It is a tough hole and nothing as mundane as the taxi business was going to interfere with level par. With customer service levels even worse than eircom, that ship was taking a battering (the customer reviews online make for scary reading). Kinetic energy and creative invoicing had kept that vessel afloat for years and with the shiny lights of retirement visible in the distance, the incentive to keep a captains hand on the wheel was limited.

And so all those months ago, to avoid doing what was required, a wedding was planned. Two great kingdoms united under a king and queen, while the more cynical countered that it was more like two of our travelling friends at a free bar.
The honeymoon got off to a rough start when they could not even agree the office layout. Glass walls put up, taken down, moved around. Rumour had it one office desk moved up and down stairs so often it got travel sick. The night shift would arrive waiting to see what level of madness had occurred that day.  Then the row about which booking system to use began. In the brides defence her system was good but the groom put his foot down and insisted on his version of betamax software running on hardware the size of a microwave. True it might have been older than the set marconi used but it “intergrated well” with the two old ladies manually making up invoices in the basement. The “keep adding on euros and the cents will look after themselves” approach is after all tried and tested.

And so it continued with the step children being rude to each other. Passive aggressive here and row over there. The kids of the two kingdoms never really saw eye to eye and morale took its usual beating. And still the clients drained away unloved.

And then covid turned up. The aerlingus telephone stopped ringing and soon all the phones stopped ringing. Tumbleweed drifted around the marital home and the marriage was kept alive by government supports. The sight of 20 expired rental taxis sitting on flat tyres on Calmount avenue is sad. One would have genuine sympathy for the staff who have put up with years of management ineptitude. They are the glue that held the place together as best they could and hopefully can find positions elsewhere when the closing bell rings.

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Re: You may now kiss the bride....the expert wedding.
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2021, 09:19:48 am »
So there's no happy ending to this story by the sounds of it,divorce impending?

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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2021, 09:28:42 am »
For years drivers on here(including myself probably) have been saying the despatchers are doomed.Then we forget that these owners are likey millionaires and will be busy again once the economy reopens properly.The government financial supports during Covid has been generous IMO.One side will buy out the other then dump the excess drivers/staff.That's what's been happening in courier companies for decades.There has never been a merger that I can remember that resulted in more jobs.

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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2021, 10:28:33 am »
I've seen plenty of those courier company "mergers" in my time.....it never a merger...more a takeover and rarely any staff from the little company move,the idea is to generate more work with no added overheads,even the couriers don't stick around too long.

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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2021, 12:24:49 pm »
High bar with one post
Very odd
Inside information like that I suspect u worked in the nrc office in fact I think I know who u are by the language in post

See the lads that owned nrc lost interest due to having lots of money so decided to retire  and live in kimmage in bliss
Didn't want to sell to ebbs though
I see James st base up for sale now but little interest in it
Lots of nrc staff lost jobs when base moved

But who defeted the nrc xpert companies and forced a merger?
The European app of mytaxi or hailo or freenow
The ever changing name with same mount st office
The brannigans don't care they at home loaded
The plebs like me and rest on here still working while Liam is in kimmage counting the euros

There is alot of unrented cars in calmount though

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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2021, 02:54:34 pm »
Nice to see the sausage man on the receiving end of anal. 8)

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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2021, 04:07:34 pm »
I worked with NRC for 10 years and a very professional lot they were--that is until Peter Kelly went from Driver to Management ,then it started to nosedive ,sure an arrogant /ignorant person I never met before or since --I have no doubt Liam /Mick regret the day they let him in the door as I gather he made an exit soon after I left--
They had nearly 600/700 cars when I was there and the work was Premium with payments on the button--you did the work --you got paid with no deductions or dropsies--pity its not still going --I don't begrudge the Lads their few quid they made it and hopefully hung on to it --would love to be able to say the same !
Never fancied yer man from his Bridgewater days when he stroked a union membership fee before Allianz would quote you for cover !

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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2021, 04:56:02 pm »
Andrew George had 9 cars with xpert, now down to 3.

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« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2021, 09:30:04 am »
Peter left before the merger a good yr before
The brannigans i never liked they wanted more plates released and lobbied for it
Also th 20% off hse and the forcing u to take the work or get knocked off for a hr  when u sent it back
Nrc had good work but I know for a fact lots went out over fone to friends

Also fitzpatrick in office drove a taxi and got pick of work
They rented cars too they got looked after

Towards the end the brannigans lost interest as halo took hold
They launched their own nrc app which was crap

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« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2021, 10:18:27 am »
Control of the taxi game is in the hands of internationals now....like everything else in ireland.....  Talking about these dying and  dead companies may be nostalgia..... But they are a ting of the past
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« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2021, 10:46:32 am »
I only came into this after dereg and the one thing that was obvious and actually killed the industry was the animosity over what happened at dereg and it still is .Lads who got the plate while the sister got the Gaff and lads who pawned the Gaff to get plates, all were hard done by but they all focused on the wrong enemy .The Government took your industry as they saw votes in it .They wont fuck with farmers because there are votes in it .They realized the church was losing power so they put the boot in there with Abortion,Divorce ,Same sex marriage .The Greens see votes in Urban Renewal city living Scooters ,rent a bike, hate a car ,jump a bus ,walk to work ,work from home .The issues that fucked up this industry were political and it is politics that will wipe it out .

AK 47 duped reps into sitting on a review where he set them up .Cash Free transactions (traceability)Drivers thought this would do away with double jobbers Drivers alligned (traceability ) Again this will do away with double jobbers .Double Jobbers dont compete with you 24/7 they are in work or sleeping most of the time Restricted Licences (control and traceability )Drivers thought this would rduce the fleet Off street ranking (in app ) Some trade reps like dispatchers thought they were getting a deal especially those who were renting cars .If there were no more Saloon plates being issued then their fleets were going to be in demand the 9 year rule didnt matter just like the governments new Stamp Duty on multi home purchases just increase the rent .So after the 2012 Review Drivers thought great no more licences but the review had set down the A1 standard for WATs knowing that they would backtrack on that when reps said our members with older WATs cannot afford a replacement and that opened up the fleet once again for expansion and an influx of WATs to fulfill the governments commitment at drivers expense some EU directive on accessible transport .

But the big winner was Hailo they saw that the Irish industry was busy fighting among itself and snook in with the help of Reps who introduced them to the market because they were not any of the other Irish dispatchers who they felt had done the dirt in the past .The Review had packaged the industry up for Hailo or Uber with the future directive as that is what the Review and the 2012 act is .Its the Governments plan for the future of the industry .Hailo .Free Now.Uber looked at the review and saw .The Government want Cashless Transactions/Off Street ranking .Allignment .The Minister has shown willing to restrict the quality of vehicle .In other words Halo saw the opportunity to give drivers a tool to fight the traditional dispatchers give government what they wanted and in return they will probably ask government to restrict taxis to EVs sooner than we can afford to pay for the change so they will then offer to supply fleets of clean electric vehicles that they will rent per shift to drivers to cover the App work we gave them .If I had a mouth organ I would sit in me back garden on a stool and play the taxi industry suicide blues .


The ways this industry goes .Civilian motoring becomes a thing of the past with Busses ,Trams,Luas,rent a  Bike and cars rental by the hour  and a thriving taxi industry but will it need owner drivers or will the likes of Halo and Uber and others control the industry with brand recognition like Mc Donalds or Burgerking  you chose your favourite brand and click on the app .My personal view the Taxi industry will survive and thrive but the wages will be chump change and it will become an immigrant or student workplace .Dont think we will ever see the day again when a taxi driver doing 60 hours a week will be able to afford a mortgage on a one bedroomed flat in Dublin .

Just think how many tens of millions we gave them in no PUC and free waiting time so they could set us all up to take what we own .We are no better off than Palastinians in Bethlahem the Isralies want their  homes even though they own them .We gave them our work so they could sell it back to us and for what to settle old scores .

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Re: You may now kiss the bride....the expert wedding.
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2021, 11:02:43 am »
High bar with one post
Very odd
Inside information like that I suspect u worked in the nrc office in fact I think I know who u are by the language in post

See the lads that owned nrc lost interest due to having lots of money so decided to retire  and live in kimmage in bliss
Didn't want to sell to ebbs though
I see James st base up for sale now but little interest in it
Lots of nrc staff lost jobs when base moved

But who defeted the nrc xpert companies and forced a merger?
The European app of mytaxi or hailo or freenow
The ever changing name with same mount st office
The brannigans don't care they at home loaded
The plebs like me and rest on here still working while Liam is in kimmage counting the euros

There is alot of unrented cars in calmount though

Rather than try work out who we all are perhaps we should focus on the important items. Some of which will no doubt lead to other avenues of discussion.
At its most basic its a shame to see the working SPSV driver getting rolled over by a mixture of ineptitude and lack of a business sense.
Ineptitude for a number of reasons. Firstly joe public was crying out for a taxi home, to the office or to grannys for sunday dinner. The need was there but the dispatch operators fought each other,  robbed their drivers blind and gave customers the two fingers at every opportunity. 

Drivers were, and still are by the Herr-Taxi app, treated like serfs. Overcharged, ignored and distance managed like mushrooms on the basis that there is a never ending pool of idiots following behind ready to fill the ranks. When you get a trip to a provincial town on account for €120 and the client lets slip he is paying the dispatch company €280 then you both know you are being well and truly bent over.

Rather than work with their (self employed) drivers and take a share of the pie, dispatch operators wanted the pie, peas and gravy and spuds and charged you for the dinner.

The boys behind the original Hailo were pushing an open door when they got the ferry over from the mainland. The paying public had a pain in their hoop from taxis not showing up, being late etc etc. The drivers likewise had had enough of dispatch operators and Hailo pay to play was simply too good to pass up. Why not try app work.

The dispatch operator management ignored why the Hailo app was popular with the public and carried on with business as usual. Heads buried in the sand and snouts in the dwindling trough.
The drivers enjoyed their new money making app and ignored the likely % commission increases in future. This is actually understandable as most of us are simply focussed on this months mortgage and not five years ahead. The public appreciated that taxis turned up and you could pay by card.

These events forced the traveller wedding took place between NRC and Expert. My guess is it was purely for selfish reasons on the part of the owners. Retirement, salary, ego, each person had their own reasons but little to do with the actual effective running of a business.  That in itself is a pity because there was  the basis of a good business if properly managed. I once heard the description that they were “failed taxi men pretending to be businessmen” which would be funny if not for the collateral damage. Unfortunately the staff as usual end up at the receiving end of the failure.
Interestingly while the NRC groom appear to have lined their nests nicely, the sausage man is rumoured to be working front desk in a direct provision b&b in Lucan. Still ordering taxis like the commander in chief of a failed state.

When time permits I am suggesting we move on to more cheery subjects like,
Taxi unions- absolute muppets or a necessary feature.
Drivers- the different personality types and why this matters
SPSV Driving - benefits and pitfalls
App v traditional dispatch- Can both exist?
Pedestrian friendly City centres- the new normal.
“She’s electric” - Its coming our way but does it work.
AOB.


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« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2021, 11:15:50 am »
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" The Review had packaged the industry up for Hailo or Uber with the future directive as that is what the Review and the 2012 act is .Its the Governments plan for the future of the industry .Hailo .Free Now.Uber looked at the review and saw .The Government want Cashless Transactions/Off Street ranking .Allignment .The Minister has shown willing to restrict the quality of vehicle .In other words Halo saw the opportunity to give drivers a tool to fight the traditional dispatchers give government what they wanted and in return they will probably ask government to restrict taxis to EVs sooner than we can afford to pay for the change so they will then offer to supply fleets of clean electric vehicles that they will rent per shift to drivers to cover the App work we gave them .If I had a mouth organ I would sit in me back garden on a stool and play the taxi industry suicide blues .""


Totally agree with this......
Ide rather be a poor master than a rich servant

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« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2021, 11:16:13 am »
If you asked anyone under 30 have they heard of NRC I guarantee you they wouldn't have heard of them.I'd say many of NRCs former customers are in nursing homes now or in a graveyard .NRC haven't been a significant player in Dublin for 20 years.You might think that's mad but even VK is close to pension age.All old men trying to exit with a few bob for a hip replacement.
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« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2021, 11:25:25 am »
When time permits I am suggesting we move on to more cheery subjects like,

Taxi unions- absolute muppets or a necessary feature.  There is the first mistake Self employed would have a trade Organisation not a Union .

Drivers- the different personality types and why this matters  .Sociology ?You can do the job or you cant .

SPSV Driving - benefits and pitfalls .Very few on both sides .

App v traditional dispatch- Can both exist?  YES .

Pedestrian friendly City centres- the new normal.YES its a done deal the time to react was ten years ago and the way to do it was get on Dublin City Council Transport committee .This was hijacked by the one and only Green Councillor Mr Cuff .He could of been stopped .

“She’s electric” - Its coming our way but does it work.  NOT at the moment but it will .TFI know this so wont push it on us yet .
AOB.

High Bar the battle is lost ,to many vested interests and to many clowns with limited intelligence masquerading as Leaders .

 


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