Topping up your income

[john m]

Few treads on here about making some coin to fill your purse from Crypto Coin or Pony Racing or just betting .Can you actually make extra coin and How .What are the tricks and pitfalls ?

I recon you can but you need discipline and another portion of Discipline then another bit then Patience .EG earlier last year I posted Liverpool would not win a raffle this year they were 5/4 favourites to win as soon as Virgil Van Dyke got smashed up at Everton that changed the whole dynamic at liverpool .They did not have another quality central defender who could take his place so now the attacking midfielders had to play a more defensive role to cover for him being missing this would mean they would be attacking less so score less goals .Cause and Effect Van Dykes injury left a big hole in the defense .Would you sail on a ship with a hole ? So there was no value in backing Liverpool but there was value in laying them on Betfair .If they were playing really well you could buy them back at a small loss .Taking the risk into account you could of probably made 60% on the upside with about a 20% downside risk .Simply investing a Grand on Liverpool to lose would of made you about 600 if it looked like you had chosen wrong you could of bought insurance for about 200 meaning you would of gotten 800 of your grand back .So downside -200 upside +400 you were getting 2/1 for Liverpool not to win the Premier League .I had a bit on but cashed out long ago and took a small profit .

Sinn Fein were 1/1 money to be the largest party in the Next Dail .Paddy refused to lay a Grand at evens they are now 8/11 but almost certainties again only FG can beat them so if things go shit shaped you can have a saver on FG to cover most of your stake .

Dont know about any of those Crypto Coins seems they are not that easy to buy or sell but it might work for some .Gambling is actually more prevalent than you think .A farmer plants seeds a bad winter or wet summer he can lose everything he buys cattle TB can wipe him out .Shops buy the latest fashion if they dont sell it quick nobody wants it .Even Del Boy invested in Three Dozen ,Showaddy waddy Albums .

So here is the question .Brokers will tell you to have a wide ranging Portfolio of shares to increase your chances of making a profit .Are People like us who depend on Daily Toil only to make a crust missing a trick .Should we be investing in  Stocks ,Shares ,Coins ,Ponies ,Events to top up our pot .

[Octavia1]

Johnny...thers Nothing better than making yur own few bob every day in yur jammer.... But .. How can yu compare going into paddy power an buyin stok an share 
Ken's dá owned a bookies i think..... Basically it's taking candy off babies..... YOU cannot win at horses..... Its a leisure past time hobby if yu like and it's expensive if yur addicted....
Paddy is a very rich man I'de imagine.....
I've nó interest really  in stocks... But yu need to put yur money somewhere even if it's only a few grand cause as yu know the banks and credit union is raping yur money
As regards crypto I think it's a revolution of currency.....
Weve used to barter sheep an chickens an then gold then cash.... Then it was cash an wen yur cash devalued yu baut gold..... Now we have cash gold and crypto...... Computer Money.... Computers are taking over everything Johnny.... Its
The future.... WHY wouldn't money be a bit?
Wat ever about us owl cnuts saying " it'll never catch on" *
Its extremely important that yur kids are studying this stuff.... Also stocks and shares..... They need to know how to
Take control of Ther money and any future changes in the way Ther wealth is stored and secured and they need to be basically Ther own stock broker....we are now living in  America  That's the way I see it.... A cut throat survival of the fittest ruthless society in its getting worse by the day....
Yur kids futures are at huge threat from this American capitalism that we are not prepared for.... I believe that in
 10_ 20 years time we are looking at homelessness. And poverty at  epidemic proportions....just as we sé now in America.... Supposedly the richest country in the world.... Well it's not.... Its a very sick country wer only the dollor matters...and wer the gap between the haves and have not is growing at lighting speed and worse by the day. If yur nó health care you die.... If you don't have alot of money you rent at exorbitant prices and if yu can't afford it yu buy a tent and starve to death......
This country is fuked Johnny and yur kids futures depends on them adapting to this way of life or they will succumb to it...
They need to spend as much time learning about where to put Ther money as they do making Ther money..... They need to learn about stocks and shares and crypto and how to stop the gangsters in charge from stealing Ther assets and making slaves of them......
Maybe im a mad Fuk and paranoid Johnny but I see this kip going more and more like America every day and if you look at wat that horrible shite hole kip has become....... Then yu realise wer wer going..... I wish we had a revolution but wer a nation of softies an idiots who listen to Joe Duffy on the radio an owlone given out bout why we didn't win the euro vision song contest.... All the while Ther kids are going to slaughter and our own politicians are like abattoir workers
Leading them to Ther deaths for Ther American and European paymasters.......


Get a bleedin gun an educate yur kids against these cnuts
An beat them at Ther own game

[john m]

Occi I bet horses for entertainment but there are events like betting on who will win or lose a League where there are weekly fluctuations depending on if the team win lose or draw and how well the others do .That is exactly how bond and stock traders work its exactly the same just a different medium .Same with the SF bet .Bookies bet on two flies but they also bet on events that you can know as much about as they do .If they were betting and they are not Colin Keane WILL be Irish Champion Flat Jockey .Ken will tell you there were Sharks who you tried to avoid there are also mug punters .Earning daily coin is good for the Sole but not always great for the Pocket .I dont have a Pot at the moment Her that Leads in on two Day week Im on the Sofa and me credit ia zero .If I was holding folding I would of Lumped on SF to be the largest Party after the next election @ 1/1 a 100 % return on your coin .Like I said Patience you need to wait for the right opportunity I think the Shinners bet is an opportunity .The last opportunity I saw from Paddy was 13/8 Donacha O Brien to be Champion Jockey after he announced he was retiring at the end of the year He said he would like to equal his brother by winning the Championship twice .He was 8 behind with a month to go and he had a Father with nearly 300 horses better than most trained in the country .Like I said Patience is required .I wouldnt back the Dubs to win the all Ireland they might but the price is wrong its knockout not like a league where you had opportunities to buy your way out and save some of your stake .

[john m]

Occi I have been saying we are all becoming Americans for years .Americans are not a people they are a way of life just look at the amount of people trying to get to America its not to live in a four wheeled house on blocks its for the American Dream of easy money that dosent exist .On Crypto its a con its appealing to the same muppets who believe Covid is a conspiracy young people who know their existence is fucking worthless it consists of toil fuck and more toil wrapped in drink drugs and debauchery .Monkey Spunk injected into lips .Silicone tits, Pig Fat arse lifts for the ladies because they dont like who they are and Audis and Tattoos and two hours a day down the Gym for the lads wait till they hit 40 and look in the mirror the suicide rate will be measured in % not in individual cases and it was the young people who done it to themselves a more greedy I want generation has never existed .I got hand me down clothes trew overcoats on the bed in winter Today if you did that TUSLA and Childline would be banging at the door .There will be a revolution and you and me will be the victims .Tax your Pension,Savings ,Home .The Fucking Blindness of People is beyond belief we are becoming a cyber society every coin you have will be recorded by 2040 Cash will be gone .every transaction will be recorded and taxed and levied by your card holder .Its the Youth that are creating the plastic card society not old cunts like us .

[Octavia1]

Occi I bet horses for entertainment but there are events like betting on who will win or lose a League where there are weekly fluctuations depending on if the team win lose or draw and how well the others do .That is exactly how bond and stock traders work its exactly the same just a different medium .Same with the SF bet .Bookies bet on two flies but they also bet on events that you can know as much about as they do .If they were betting and they are not Colin Keane WILL be Irish Champion Flat Jockey .Ken will tell you there were Sharks who you tried to avoid there are also mug punters .Earning daily coin is good for the Sole but not always great for the Pocket .I dont have a Pot at the moment Her that Leads in on two Day week Im on the Sofa and me credit ia zero .If I was holding folding I would of Lumped on SF to be the largest Party after the next election @ 1/1 a 100 % return on your coin .Like I said Patience you need to wait for the right opportunity I think the Shinners bet is an opportunity .The last opportunity I saw from Paddy was 13/8 Donacha O Brien to be Champion Jockey after he announced he was retiring at the end of the year He said he would like to equal his brother by winning the Championship twice .He was 8 behind with a month to go and he had a Father with nearly 300 horses better than most trained in the country .Like I said Patience is required .I wouldnt back the Dubs to win the all Ireland they might but the price is wrong its knockout not like a league where you had opportunities to buy your way out and save some of your stake .

Johnny..yur not listnin ...yu can win on stocks and shares and crypto if yu educate yourself........
You cannot win if yu spent yur life  in the bookies..... Ever

[Octavia1]

Occi I have been saying we are all becoming Americans for years .Americans are not a people they are a way of life just look at the amount of people trying to get to America its not to live in a four wheeled house on blocks its for the American Dream of easy money that dosent exist .On Crypto its a con its appealing to the same muppets who believe Covid is a conspiracy young people who know their existence is fucking worthless it consists of toil fuck and more toil wrapped in drink drugs and debauchery .Monkey Spunk injected into lips .Silicone tits, Pig Fat arse lifts for the ladies because they dont like who they are and Audis and Tattoos and two hours a day down the Gym for the lads wait till they hit 40 and look in the mirror the suicide rate will be measured in % not in individual cases and it was the young people who done it to themselves a more greedy I want generation has never existed .I got hand me down clothes trew overcoats on the bed in winter Today if you did that TUSLA and Childline would be banging at the door .There will be a revolution and you and me will be the victims .Tax your Pension,Savings ,Home .The Fucking Blindness of People is beyond belief we are becoming a cyber society every coin you have will be recorded by 2040 Cash will be gone .every transaction will be recorded and taxed and levied by your card holder .Its the Youth that are creating the plastic card society not old cunts like us .

Johnny yu say crypto is a con.... And in the same post yu say we will be a Cashless society in a few years.... I Think yuv had a eureka moment..... 

[john m]

Your falling for it Occi by the time shares are available for you to buy the value is gone .The people who made money out of Tesla,Google,Facebook were the people who invented it and the people who invested long before they went public .but for every Facebook or Google that succeed there are thousands that fail .Have you done the sums after fees and Capital Gains What % increase would you need on an annual basis to make 2% return on your investment in Stocks .

[john m]

Occi I have been saying we are all becoming Americans for years .Americans are not a people they are a way of life just look at the amount of people trying to get to America its not to live in a four wheeled house on blocks its for the American Dream of easy money that dosent exist .On Crypto its a con its appealing to the same muppets who believe Covid is a conspiracy young people who know their existence is fucking worthless it consists of toil fuck and more toil wrapped in drink drugs and debauchery .Monkey Spunk injected into lips .Silicone tits, Pig Fat arse lifts for the ladies because they dont like who they are and Audis and Tattoos and two hours a day down the Gym for the lads wait till they hit 40 and look in the mirror the suicide rate will be measured in % not in individual cases and it was the young people who done it to themselves a more greedy I want generation has never existed .I got hand me down clothes trew overcoats on the bed in winter Today if you did that TUSLA and Childline would be banging at the door .There will be a revolution and you and me will be the victims .Tax your Pension,Savings ,Home .The Fucking Blindness of People is beyond belief we are becoming a cyber society every coin you have will be recorded by 2040 Cash will be gone .every transaction will be recorded and taxed and levied by your card holder .Its the Youth that are creating the plastic card society not old cunts like us .

Johnny yu say crypto is a con.... And in the same post yu say we will be a Cashless society in a few years.... I Think yuv had a eureka moment..... 

Where can you spend your Crypto and buy Twenty Major and a Package of Crips ? Imagine some South African plastic car space craft builder who wants to go to mars can halve what you have in your wallett by appearing on a late night comedy show .Your welcome to invest as much as you like in that con .

[Octavia1]

Johnny.... Bout yer an a half ago some yungone got in me car an asked to pay wit me sumup.... Shé Then tapped the sumup wit her phone..... "Wat Ya bleedin doin ya silly cow" .... I said..." Yu trying break me sumup"?
"Shur up u owl Dopey cnut" she said
An me sum up..... Said " Lovely jubly" an I was paid......
No cash.... Nuttin changed hands except an electronic Bluetooth static electric charge....
Now i told ya in America they already have. Crypto atm machines.... The point is" technology" is evolving.....
Why shudnt currency? And the way it's stored, distributed and transactioned?
The uncertainty is how it's evolving not the fact that its evolving..... Im just saying yur kids need Ther ear to the ground cause it maybe gambling on the future but Ther could be huge opportunities

[john m]

Occi there are 4 Billion Asians but most of the funny money is American Go figure .China just outlawed funny money .Its all a Con .

[watty]

Dont know about any of those Crypto Coins seems they are not that easy to buy or sell but it might work for some .Gambling is actually more prevalent than you think .A farmer plants seeds a bad winter or wet summer he can lose everything he buys cattle TB can wipe him out .Shops buy the latest fashion if they dont sell it quick nobody wants it .Even Del Boy invested in Three Dozen ,Showaddy waddy Albums .

Not sure I'd call that gambling.  They have some control over the outcome and can use their expertise to overcome obstacles.  Farmers can buy suitable seed, or put in drains, or dose the cow with drugs.  Big difference between this and gambling on 22 men kicking a football around a field.  You've no control over those 22 men and no amount of shouting at the telly is gonna change things.

[john m]

Dont know about any of those Crypto Coins seems they are not that easy to buy or sell but it might work for some .Gambling is actually more prevalent than you think .A farmer plants seeds a bad winter or wet summer he can lose everything he buys cattle TB can wipe him out .Shops buy the latest fashion if they dont sell it quick nobody wants it .Even Del Boy invested in Three Dozen ,Showaddy waddy Albums .

Not sure I'd call that gambling.  They have some control over the outcome and can use their expertise to overcome obstacles.  Farmers can buy suitable seed, or put in drains, or dose the cow with drugs.  Big difference between this and gambling on 22 men kicking a football around a field.  You've no control over those 22 men and no amount of shouting at the telly is gonna change things.

No but I can react to the results week by week You cant giv a cow medicin against TB he gets a bullett and no farmer can control the weather its all a gamble .

[Octavia1]

Your falling for it Occi by the time shares are available for you to buy the value is gone .The people who made money out of Tesla,Google,Facebook were the people who invented it and the people who invested long before they went public .but for every Facebook or Google that succeed there are thousands that fail .Have you done the sums after fees and Capital Gains What % increase would you need on an annual basis to make 2% return on your investment in Stocks .

Facebook and Google came out Cople of decades ago....
Before the kids had access to broker's or smart phones ... Wen we wer yung coming out of school we played football or drank cider in the park got a job an saved our cash for a gaff wit the bird ..... Then got married, went into the bookies and drank the leftovers an pissed on the dog in the garden ....
The kids growing up now are more sophisticated.... At least the smart ones are.....

[Bob Shillin]

Warren Buffett ($108bn), bought his first stock in 1942 in the middle of WW2, is extremely glad that he was born in America, is extremely ethical in his business dealings, very philanthropic, albeit that his is a capitalist. Invest in quality businesses, ideally that are undervalued, and don't worry about the macro economy too much. He is astounded at America's ability to succeed, and prosper, with the average American worth more now that ever. He believes that global leadership will probably change in time, has no faith in crypto. Death will cause us all, personally, to have 0% return on our investments. 1st rule, invest in yourself.

Oh, to start again with the benefit of hindsight.

[john m]

Warren Buffett ($108bn), bought his first stock in 1942 in the middle of WW2, is extremely glad that he was born in America, is extremely ethical in his business dealings, very philanthropic, albeit that his is a capitalist. Invest in quality businesses, ideally that are undervalued, and don't worry about the macro economy too much. He is astounded at America's ability to succeed, and prosper, with the average American worth more now that ever. He believes that global leadership will probably change in time, has no faith in crypto. Death will cause us all, personally, to have 0% return on our investments. 1st rule, invest in yourself.

Oh, to start again with the benefit of hindsight.

In Ireland we invested in Bricks and mortar Robbie .The payoff you own the pile when you pay for it and you get to live in it while you buy it .Ideally the Sprogs are gone when you retire you sell the pile and stick it in the Bank @ 3% and live off it by spending on porter and holidays and cheap rent ,That dream has died .