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Climate change
« on: November 04, 2021, 01:03:11 pm »
Politicians are now blaming cows for climate change suggesting a cull in the herd:
Farmers mobilise to mount big protest on Dublin’s streets
Irish Farmers’ Association chief targets November 21st in pursuit of ‘real engagement’

 
The Government faces the prospect of a large protest on the streets of Dublin over its climate plan after the Irish Farmers’ Association (IFA), the largest farm organisation, told members and their families to gather in the capital a fortnight from Sunday.

IFA president Tim Cullinan said the organisation chose to protest on a Sunday “to limit disruption to the people of Dublin”. The gathering on November 21st coincides with the Ireland-Argentina international rugby match and it comes at a time when city traders hope for a Christmas shopping boost to business.

The IFA called the protest on Wednesday as the Government finalised targets for emissions cuts from the farm sector, by far the most politically sensitive element of the new action plan to achieve ambitious climate targets in coming years. The plan is scheduled to be published on Thursday after a Cabinet meeting.

“We want to work with Government on climate action, but there has to be real engagement. Setting targets without any regard for the consequences, or any supports, won’t work,” said Mr Cullinan.

Fearful families
Amid growing pressure to curb agricultural emissions that has led to farmer anxiety about cuts to food production, the IFA aims to highlight sector’s economic contribution.

“The farming and food sector employs 300,000 people across the country and contributed €13 billion in exports in 2020. Outside of Dublin and the mid-east region, the sector provides between 10 per cent and 14 per cent of employment. This is being forgotten in a rush to sterilise Irish farming,” said Mr Cullinan.

“If we produce less food in Ireland, more will be produced in countries with a higher carbon footprint, which will increase global warming. We believe that with the right supports, we can reduce methane emissions by using available technologies. But all this talk of cutting the so-called ‘national herd’ is really worrying farmers.”

   


Farm families are fearful for the future, he added.

“We hear all of these high-level targets being announced, but we have no clarity about what this will mean at farm level. I’m inviting all farm families to attend the event.

“Farmers have families too and they are very conscious of the climate challenge and the need for farmers to play their part. But it can’t decimate our incomes. It must provide a future that is economically and socially sustainable, as well as being environmentally sustainable.”

Overpopulation is the key issue that needs to be addressed.

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Re: Climate change
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2021, 03:14:28 pm »
A big money grabbing tax scam. I believe in environmentalism, but this human induced climate change shite is off the scales. The poor young ones today should have been around 30 plus years ago, then they would know what diesel and petrol cars were like then, plus trucks,planes and buses. They would have an appreciation for the vehicles that are around today, this takes gradual progress, not stuff rammed down your neck that the climate will go out of control in 10 years if we don't do big stuff now. They've been screaming that crap for decades. And there was more grass eating animals roaming this planet 1000s of years ago than there are today including cattle and sheep. Pure lunacy.

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Re: Climate change
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2021, 03:22:54 pm »
A big money grabbing tax scam. I believe in environmentalism, but this human induced climate change shite is off the scales. The poor young ones today should have been around 30 plus years ago, then they would know what diesel and petrol cars were like then, plus trucks,planes and buses. They would have an appreciation for the vehicles that are around today, this takes gradual progress, not stuff rammed down your neck that the climate will go out of control in 10 years if we don't do big stuff now. They've been screaming that crap for decades. And there was more grass eating animals roaming this planet 1000s of years ago than there are today including cattle and sheep. Pure lunacy.
Aircraft use fossil fuel, yet we don't hear for the introduction of a tax on it. Why should motorists pay fuel tax when airlines don't?

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Re: Climate change
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2021, 03:35:22 pm »
On a slightly related note I've been offered some of those Eco jobs from Freenow lately.It seems that there are actually youngsters out there who think getting to the pub in a bolloxed Prius that burns a lot of  oil is more environmentally freindly than a regular taxi.It's hard to believe all that global warming brainwashing in the news is changing their spending habits.

I've been wondering if they thought the  "eco" part was short for economy.As in a cheaper taxi fare.

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Re: Climate change
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2021, 03:59:21 pm »
On a slightly related note I've been offered some of those Eco jobs from Freenow lately.It seems that there are actually youngsters out there who think getting to the pub in a bolloxed Prius that burns a lot of  oil is more environmentally freindly than a regular taxi.It's hard to believe all that global warming brainwashing in the news is changing their spending habits.

I've been wondering if they thought the  "eco" part was short for economy.As in a cheaper taxi fare.
It's baby steps. Paying upwards of €7.00 for a drink that's 90% water, that's the clever bit.

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Re: Climate change
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2021, 07:09:33 pm »
Did yu ever see them on the telly in a grass hut in some kip  holdin  a baby an the baby is ballin an the owlone is cryin an she says ...." I can't feed me baby cause of climate change caused by the west  an me other 27 kids are  Hank Marvin  :o oops
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Re: Climate change
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2021, 07:21:13 pm »
Did yu ever see them on the telly in a grass hut in some kip  holdin  a baby an the baby is ballin an the owlone is cryin an she says ...." I can't feed me baby cause of climate change caused by the west  an me other 27 kids are  Hank Marvin  :o oops
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Re: Climate change
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2021, 07:57:51 pm »
Did yu ever see them on the telly in a grass hut in some kip  holdin  a baby an the baby is ballin an the owlone is cryin an she says ...." I can't feed me baby cause of climate change caused by the west  an me other 27 kids are  Hank Marvin  :o oops
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Working 5 star pizza rathmines  oops
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Re: Climate change
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2021, 02:08:51 am »
as george carlin said:
Save the planet? We don't know how to look after each other yet but we're gonna save the fuckin planet?

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Re: Climate change
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2021, 12:43:37 pm »
To cut our emissions should we cut our working hours .Does anybody own an Electric vehicle .Is your insurance more or less than your old motor .Wouldnt rule out that insurance on Petrol and Diesel motors will increase to allow insurers offer cheaper insurance for EVs as in Poluter pays .
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Re: Climate change
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2021, 05:42:09 pm »
To cut our emissions should we cut our working hours .Does anybody own an Electric vehicle .Is your insurance more or less than your old motor .Wouldnt rule out that insurance on Petrol and Diesel motors will increase to allow insurers offer cheaper insurance for EVs as in Poluter pays .
I went from a 14 yr old Octavia to a new EV & my insurance went up €50/yr.  Part of that might have been an admin charge since I changed in the middle of my insurance year (new paperwork & disc)?  On the other hand, they might have just picked €50 out of their arse?
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Re: Climate change
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2021, 07:02:59 pm »
@watty, a few questions for ya just curious, what is the range on a full charge when you first got it, how many kms on it now and is it still the same range with a full charge, has it dropped even a couple of kms. And last question what range do you really get in the real world. Thanks.

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Re: Climate change
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2021, 07:52:44 pm »
It's hard to answer your questions.  Officially, the WLTP is 403km but I think the general consensus on the MG5 Long Range is about 330km in good conditions.  Lots of people use this site as a reference --> https://ev-database.org/car/1526/MG-MG5-EV-Long-Range   From what I understand, you won't see any degradation in the battery during the first year.

The range in my yoke is hard to say because the computer in the car guesses depending on what settings you have.  So it guesses more if you put it in eco mode and turn off the air-conditioning for example.

I generally use 40% of the battery during a shift & I've done a 1,000km.

I believe motorway driving at 120km/hr is the big no-no of EV's.  For example, I had to visit a small town near Drogheda during the week on personal business.  It's basically 50km door-to-door.  Going up the motorway at 120km/hr (and overtaking when needed) used ~20%* of the battery while coming home on National roads used ~15%**. 

* 20% is roughly 250km range if you kept on the motorway at 120km/hr
** 15% is roughly 330km range if you kept on national roads and took it easy.
So that's roughly a 80km difference in range between driving at 120km/hr and driving at 80-100km/hr...
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Re: Climate change
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2021, 03:07:55 pm »
There was a filthy old bag on with Joe Duffy during the week telling the nation she only showers every 3 weeks. I wonder how much water she uses washing her rubbish for recycling...
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Re: Climate change
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2021, 07:44:18 pm »
And Greta Thornbird is back on the telly.....COP26 on

 


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