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Not Going Back
« on: July 14, 2022, 01:19:56 pm »
I'm hearing rumours that we're going on strike soon.

The main bone of contention appears to be no increase to PUC despite commission charged by dispatch firms increasing by 50% since OUR last increase. Other issues question how the headline 12% increase has been implemented*, no return of a third (Tariff C) incremental increase on fares of longer duration and the removal of our right to legal tender, making us the only citizens in the Free State with no entitlement to be paid.

*Day fare increase
Initial charge = +20c
Tariff A = +9c/Kilo / +3c/min
Tariff B = +8c/kilo / +3c/min : applies from €23.20 @ new rate.

*Night fare increase
Initial charge = +40c
Tariff A = +16c/kilo / +10c/min
Tariff B = +10c/kilo / +4c/min : applies from €29.60 @ new rate.

No change to extras on either rate.
If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

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Re: Not Going Back
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2022, 01:30:49 pm »
Have you seen the wording .Does it say must accept or must provide card services ?If its must provide then you provide the service but have your own rules just like Mr Woo or Billy The Knifes Poker School cash only after whatever time you got into the car .Personally I look forward to ALL taxis taking Cards get us back a lot of App work .
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Re: Not Going Back
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2022, 01:35:50 pm »
Must have a fully operational facility at all times and must accept card payment is what the SI states. Technical guidelines have not yet been published, to my knowledge. Taking the SI at face value (and listening to rumours from sources close to drivers' representatives) the bottom line is if you can't take card you can't work.
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Re: Not Going Back
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2022, 01:36:53 pm »
Must have a fully operational facility at all times and must accept card payment is what the SI states. Technical guidelines have not yet been published, to my knowledge. Taking the SI at face value (and listening to rumours from sources close to drivers' representatives) the bottom line is if you can't take card you can't work.


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Re: Not Going Back
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2022, 01:40:34 pm »
Well, it was you that asked for it. In future, I'd respectfully suggest you run your ideas by Watty before running to the authorities to tell them how clever you are... bearing in mind that Watty came up with the excellent idea of facilitating card payments through the LEAP card system.

In any event, the main complaint with the new fare that I'm hearing is no increase to the booking charge despite Free Now commission increasing by 50% since our last increase.
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Re: Not Going Back
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2022, 02:04:59 pm »
Well, it was you that asked for it. In future, I'd respectfully suggest you run your ideas by Watty before running to the authorities to tell them how clever you are... bearing in mind that Watty came up with the excellent idea of facilitating card payments through the LEAP card system.

In any event, the main complaint with the new fare that I'm hearing is no increase to the booking charge despite Free Now commission increasing by 50% since our last increase.

Why would the taxi thingey give any concern to how a taxi driver decides to distribute his earnings .Should drivers who do not use an app get less .In fact as a lot of people chose to use an app should the PUC not be done away with and add a bit more to the rate .Im sure the Reps complaining about the PUC are being paid by Free Now as a higher PUC would encourage Free Now to Promote their services even more as drivers would see the extra PUC as a Bonus .Then when Free Now /Uber/Bolt have even more work capture 20% commission .
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Re: Not Going Back
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2022, 02:47:29 pm »
Must have a fully operational facility at all times and must accept card payment is what the SI states. Technical guidelines have not yet been published, to my knowledge. Taking the SI at face value (and listening to rumours from sources close to drivers' representatives) the bottom line is if you can't take card you can't work.


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Re: Not Going Back
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2022, 04:45:06 pm »
If they make a big fuss about cash, expect the trade to be targeted with revenue audits.
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Re: Not Going Back
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2022, 08:34:24 pm »
If they make a big fuss about cash, expect the trade to be targeted with revenue audits.
If a driver is offered cash by a so-called enforcement officer working "undercover" will it be deemed entrapment?

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Re: Not Going Back
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2022, 09:26:21 pm »
If passengers want to pay be cash....what's the problem.

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Re: Not Going Back
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2022, 09:44:18 pm »
There is no problem , this won’t or shouldn’t effect any decent driver that already accepts credit card payment.

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Re: Not Going Back
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2022, 08:24:07 am »
I've had passengers ask if it's OK to pay with cash....I kid you not!!
I was picking up from the Shelbourne Hotel one morning,passenger gets in and says can we stop at an ATM as the concierge told her that taxis only take cash....remind me to tip him!! lol

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Re: Not Going Back
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2022, 11:41:14 am »
Was ther a rule put in place that if  at the customers destination is on a street  an the bicycling bollards prohibit safe parking or wud nessessitate the driver blocking of  traffic for the nessesary  minutes  sometimes to interact wit the devices to connect to the ting in the sky an get him paid .....is he required to inform the passanger that he cannot stop at the requested destination as the driver would be breaking the highway code and commiting an offence by blocking the highway.....and driving the ape to a safe place to
Do all the tings nessesary an the time it takes ???

Was ther any taut put into this ?
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« Last Edit: July 15, 2022, 11:44:26 am by Octavia1 »
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Re: Not Going Back
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2022, 01:14:03 pm »
There is no problem , this won’t or shouldn’t effect any decent driver that already accepts credit card payment.

It effects all drivers who work for Free Now or other dispatch firms. Free Now's freight has increased by 50% since our last fare increase. If NTA don't increase the booking fee for drivers in line with the directly attributable increased cost firms like Free Now will surely be inclined to take the money for themselves through something like a Technology Fee.

Card payments will only materially effect drivers when they can't get paid due to technology issues or as they suffer chargebacks on foot of being paid with stolen cards and/or on foot of client dissatisfaction with the service provided. Obviously, in more general terms drivers will be faced with additional costs as clients opt to use contactless rather than entering card details over dispatchers' websites. I doubt any dispatchers will lower their freight to offset savings on card processing, chargebacks, fraudulent transactions, etc...

I guess concentrating on the booking fee would be an uncharacteristically clever move by the unions as adjusting the same would not impact on meter programming and they are obviously already armed with information from at least one dispatcher (Free Now) suggesting an increase in line with the increase to freight imposed by that firm since our last fare increase wouldn't adversely impact demand.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2022, 01:17:51 pm by Rat Catcher »
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Re: Not Going Back
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2022, 01:09:11 am »
If you won't/Can't accept cashless  then you leave yourself open to punters who can just give you an IOU and leg it claiming they have no cash .. (ATMs will be becoming more scarce going forward)
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