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Will putin stop at Ukraine?

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ww3 is inevitable
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Offline Octavia1

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Will putin stop at Ukraine ?
« on: July 19, 2022, 10:31:02 pm »
I was lookin at putin in Iran on the telly ( me ma's telly  not mine i dont have one ).....he's lookin for allies to take on the west it appears ....
If he invades another European country then America will have to declare war on Russia and has already declared that
that  wud be the case
That  logically obviously is ww3 .....
The problem with any war  up to this moment in time in history is ther can be only one winner ....
In ww2 America had the Nukes and basically ended the war
wit hiroshima an nagasaki... ....but in a ww3 scenario both sides will have the ultimate deterent and its evident ther can be no winners and no losers because the side that is forced into capitulation has the ultimate option of feckin the  " rattle out of the pram " an declaring a draw ....putin likes chess ....a draw is always the goal if winning is an impossibility and he cannot beat nato with conventional weapons...an as a megalomaniac phychpath the option of a draw will take place without hesitation

The question is Will he invade another Country?
« Last Edit: July 19, 2022, 10:38:40 pm by Octavia1 »
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Re: Will putin stop at Ukraine ?
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2022, 06:10:09 am »
 Georga the birthplace of Stalin just signed their own deathwarrant .Azarbaijan are selling Gas to Europe and it must go through a Pipeline that goes through Georga .Mr Putin wont have other dealers working his patch .

WW3 wont be fought in Europe or America .The action will take place in Asia .China wants Taiwan .Why ?Because about 60% of Asias semiconductors are made in Taiwan and China needs Chips .Thats also why America are telling Taiwan they will protect them ,they dont want china with access to unlimited chip supplies unless they buy American ones .

Now for the Morality .America are the only Country on earth ever to have used Nuclear bombS .They made their point dropping ONE but decided to drop TWO .They will use Nukes quicker that Barry the Bottle will use a bottleopener .Their reasoning why lose American Troops in the Field just Nuke China or Russia or Iran those Countries are far away we wont suffer any fallout .Iran,Pakistan,Russia and China get to geather Nato is fucked .The Big prize for Pak,China and Russia is to carve up India .Biden tried to overtrow Imran Kahn in Pakistan but that looks like it has failed he will be back as President of Pakistan after the next elections .

So Yes Mr Putin will invade more countries like America he will want regime change .WW3 in my lifetime Yes .America will cause it .I wouldnt rule out total American Protectionism ,where they stop supplying oil or gas to Europe to fuck up the European Economies .If America begins to run out of Oil and Putin or China control the Middle East .America will invade Canada the fourth biggest oil reserves on earth .
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Re: Will putin stop at Ukraine ?
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2022, 01:14:11 am »
Are we still doing Ukraine? I thought it was climate change this month.
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Re: Will putin stop at Ukraine ?
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2022, 07:03:58 am »
Are we still doing Ukraine? I thought it was climate change this month.

Climate Change is over its now Climate Emergency .In order of Serious sounding stuff .Acid Rain,Hole in the Ozone Layer ,Global Warming ,Climate Change then Climate Emergency .

  Joe Biden recons its caused by Protestants building and Burning Bonefires on the 12th CIA are asking if Russia are supplying the UDA with Pallets or are they being smuggled in from the Republic by Loyalist Crime Gangs .
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Re: Will putin stop at Ukraine ?
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2022, 10:12:28 am »
Britain's next prime minister will take office on Sept. 6. Boris Johnson's replacement will be either Foreign Secretary Liz Truss or former Chancellor of the Exchequer Rishi Sunak.

Sunak and Truss came in a respective first and second in the final poll of Conservative parliamentarians on Wednesday. They will now travel the United Kingdom trying to persuade Conservative Party members to give them the keys to No. 10 Downing Street.


Because the Conservatives have a parliamentary majority, whoever wins the Conservative leadership contest will automatically become prime minister. No general election need be called until late 2024.

From the perspective of U.S. interests, Truss would be the preferable prime minister.

While Truss was seen as somewhat unsure when she became foreign secretary last September, she has grown into the role impressively. Truss has worked very closely with U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken to introduce sanctions on Russia. Indeed, Truss has been more forward-leaning than the Biden administration, seeking to expand the supply of lethal weapons to Ukraine. Truss's unrepentant condemnations of Russia stand in stark contrast with the far more hesitant stances of her European Union counterparts in Berlin, Brussels, Madrid, Rome, and Paris. This has earned Truss the rising ire of Russian state media.


Should she become prime minister, Truss has pledged to increase defense spending to 3% of GDP by 2030. That would mean very significant investments in Britain's ability to complement U.S. military operations. And that brings us to the keystone U.S. national security concern: China.

Shredding a long-held Foreign Office taboo, Truss recently called for expanded Western efforts to support Taiwan. She has also criticized China's human rights policies and made clear that she wants Britain to take a greater role in support of its allies in the Pacific. While the historic relationship between Britain, Australia, and the United States is a guiding force for Truss, her interest in boosting ties with Japan and India also seems clear.

Truss views the world through the prism of a democratic struggle against increasingly determined autocracies. There is a Thatcherite quality here. In turn, a Truss premiership would likely see increasing Royal Navy deployments to the East and South China Seas, possibly to include 12-mile transits of China's unlawfully claimed islands. Truss would also increase the British commitment to NATO, helping to reduce pressure on the U.S. military.

Sunak sees things quite differently. He wants a far more commercially minded foreign policy toward China. As recently as January, Sunak sought a "complete sea change" in U.K. relations with Beijing. He wants to boost trade ties at the expense of other concerns and has condemned those calling for a tougher China policy as lacking "nuance." Beijing has made clear that Sunak's stance is music to its ears. The Chinese Communist Party wants to leverage trade as a means of extracting political concessions in other areas.


If Sunak becomes prime minister, you can bet that China will quickly offer massive investments — but only with the expectation that Sunak will stay quiet on the Uyghur genocide, Hong Kong, and Taiwan, keep the British military out of the Pacific, open up sensitive U.K. industries to Chinese ownership, and only minimally support the U.S. on other related concerns. This would see Sunak return to the strategy of former Prime Minister David Cameron and his Chancellor George Obsorne, who declared a "golden era" in U.K.-China relations. To the chagrin of the queen, they even tolerated Chinese insults of British diplomats and police officers assigned to protect Xi Jinping during his 2015 state visit.

Sunak's resistance to U.K. defense spending tells a similar tale. Even as recently as late March, a month after Russia had commenced the biggest European war since 1945, Sunak was resisting defense spending boosts. It is another sign that his premiership would put mercantilism first.

The choice is up to Conservative members. But U.S. interests seem much better suited to a Prime Minister Truss.
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Re: Will putin stop at Ukraine ?
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2022, 01:20:42 pm »
The question is Will he invade another Country?


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