Whats the stoty bout this new 10 year rule

[Cool Boola]

Looks like there will be a demonstration?

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/fears-mass-exodus-dublin-taxi-25021354


Is it a 10 oclock mass  exodus?

[Jack Meoff]

I’m in that position

[John m]

Your representatives informed the Oireachtas Comittee that taxi drivers are terrible business planners and that the Taxi industry does not pay .The Solution to providing a reliable service looks like Rideshare private hire .Your representatives look like they have conceded defeat even with up to 20K available to taxi drivers in Grants they cannot afford to replace their cars .

Your Reps are talking to Committees who have probably never even been in a taxi telling them the Present taxi model is not fit for purpose .Just a thought If I was to Address the Oireachtas Transport Comittee .I would of Asked .

When are the NTA going to put in place a ride Hailing App for taxi drivers that is Commission Free to aid PASSENGERS get a Taxi .The Goodbody Report had aspirations that ALL drivers be aligned to a Dispatcher .As it is Beyond the remit of the NTA or Taxi Regulator to Impose any outside  Commercial impediment on how Taxis Operate .It has always been Taxi Drivers understanding that the NTA was in fact going to provide the Hailing App as infrastructure just a digital Rank not a Commercial implement that would interfere with any other Cost based service provider as the NTA application would not collect or distribute any monies due to the Drivers .

The one piece of infrastructure that would solve the availability of taxis and reduce emissions as the nearest taxi would get first refusal would be a TFI operated taxi hailing App.

My follow up would of been .

Now that ALL taxis MUST accept Credit or Debit cards there is no Commercial interest served by a TFI operated Hailing App so no Existing Commercial Apps can claim undue interference by the TFI in their Commercial Operations .


That is how you Represent an Industry not tell them you and your mates have failed to provide the service you were licenced to do .

[mercenary for hire]

There's a few new ID4s around where I live and the drivers changed early too to get ahead of the pack.If there's gonna be any backtracking on the rules they'd wanna get their finger out.

[John m]

There's a few new ID4s around where I live and the drivers changed early too to get ahead of the pack.If there's gonna be any backtracking on the rules they'd wanna get their finger out.

Why would there be a backtracking on the Rule ,The Covid extension was more to do with the fact we were limited to travel 5K so could not get to a Garage to buy or the Garages were closed .The decision to extend would be Down to the Minister For Transport Young Onion Head .Do you think he will extend dirty Diesels after putting a few million on the table in Grants to Taxi Drivers ,Grants no other transport provider got .If he was to extend the Age Limit he probably would withdraw the Grants .

[mercenary for hire]

I won't be taking any grants so it doesn't bother me.There wasn't a plan to have us all going electric.It was meant to be just enough of us so that the public would consider it a viable option.

Remember the Gardai and ambulance service still drive diesels.Buses are still diesel, even the new ones.

Eamon Ryan's ministeral car is a Diesel Audi.It's all window dressing IMO.I'm not falling for it but you may be.

I'm late for work..

[John m]

I won't be taking any grants so it doesn't bother me.There wasn't a plan to have us all going electric.It was meant to be just enough of us so that the public would consider it a viable option.

Remember the Gardai and ambulance service still drive diesels.Buses are still diesel, even the new ones.

Eamon Ryan's ministeral car is a Diesel Audi.It's all window dressing IMO.I'm not falling for it but you may be.

I'm late for work..

You are getting the Picture Merch .If we all went ESB they couldnt supply the Power .The American Pension Funds invested in off shore wind wont stand for the EU nonsence of taxing the excessive profits .If the EU tax the Wind we wont reach our 2030 Carbon reduction figures this Century .Eamo and his Millionaire mate Cuffe were shouting about all the Billions the EU were going to give us from Windfall taxes until Vonda from Germany said no money just the Go ahead from Europe to Impose a tax .Do you think FF/Fg are going to over tax American Investors in Ireland to help the People ?Did they tax the windfall profits of big Pharma that made hundreds of Billions out of flogging Vaccines to help pay for the PUP .The whole Electric World Nonsense has been exposed as Bolloxology .We need oil and Gas to turn into Electricity .

[Cool Boola]

This  civilised industrial world depends and was developed with fossil fuel.If you have it in your back garden great!…I cannot believe that this 10 year rule is going to be enforced. Its madness I  tell you. The costs are way too high in this game and It means that you have to work,long hours to get ahead of headless  bodies like the NTA,Methrology, and Testing,sucking the life out of you and your family. They have gone too far this time!

[Belker]

This  civilised industrial world depends and was developed with fossil fuel.If you have it in your back garden great!…I cannot believe that this 10 year rule is going to be enforced. Its madness I  tell you. The costs are way too high in this game and It means that you have to work,long hours to get ahead of headless  bodies like the NTA,Methrology, and Testing,sucking the life out of you and your family. They have gone too far this time!

Are you a Keshie or ex-keshie Cools ?
Or did ya learn how to whinge like that on your lonesome ?

[silverbullet]

I’m in that position

+1

[taxi1990]

Would the banks not give taxi drivers loans for new cars? or could they maybe switch to renting a taxi?

[John m]

You all seem to be forgetting .It was your Representatives who complained to an Oireachtas Committee years ago about certain drivers paying coin to pass the NCT .The Taxi thingey had no control over that but they brought in a Suitability to make sure of the Standard of Cars .It was Your Representatives who Complained to a Dail Committee that bangers were being plated up by multi plate owners . We got a 9 year rule .Reps complained about out of town drivers working their patch we got area stickers .Everything we got we asked for .

 Read the Oireactas Committee from this week .Your Representatives told the Committee that there is a lack of taxis late night and the present model of Licenced taxis  is not financially viable .(What way do you think they will react ?)



I have said this loads of times .Do not ask a question unless you already know the answer .Why would the Oireachtas Transport Committee invite you to talk to them ?If they wanted Cart Blanch to introduce Rideshare your representatives just gave them the Opportunity .They heard Full time Drivers wont work nights cannot afford to replace expensive cars .The Solution to that is to allow dispatchers like UBER or Free Now or Vinny run a fleet of Rideshare Hacks to solve the taxi shortage ..

The Dail dont see the Problem from your perspective .There are more votes in Passengers than Drivers ..never forget that .

[mercenary for hire]

There are taxi shortages all over the world.All the reps want is a few extra year's on the taxis.Not an unreasonable request.The rest is all noise.

[watty]

TheJournal.ie published this story over a decade ago.... Just saying     Transport authority set to ease new rules on taxi ages

THE NATIONAL TRANSPORT AUTHORITY has announced it is to revoke the ‘nine-year rule’ for taxi registrations, following complaints by cab drivers that the expense of replacing older vehicles was making the trade unsustainable.  The Authority – which assumed the functions of the Commission for Taxi Regulation on January 1 of this year – this morning said it was to revoke the rule, which requires that cars used as taxis be no older than nine years of age, for drivers renewing their licences in 2011 and who had sought their first licence before January 2009.  The decision means that taxi drivers who have been in the trade for over two years will now not be bound by the rule requiring them to replace their cars once they reach a certain age.  Transport minister Pat Carey said he welcomed the decision, and also hailed the decision by the NTA to begin a wider consultation on the standards taxi drivers and passengers should expect from the vehicles being used in the profession.

The authority said in a statement that it was to make “a review of appropriate vehicle standards for taxis”, for the benefit of the taxi customer, a main priority for 2011.

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The ‘nine year rule’ was originally proposed by the Commission for Taxi Regulation in 2006, and had been set for introduction in 2007, but implementation was put off until 2012 after the taxi industry complained that many drivers had taken out five-year loans for their vehicles – some of which would have been made unusable by the new rule.  The rule took effect last month, having been fast-tracked through by the Commission – with taxi drivers again opposing the move.  Today’s announcement follows election campaigning by both Fine Gael and Sinn Féin on taxi regulation in the past weeks; the latter’s document included a promise to carry out a full review of the ‘nine year rule’.

And in 2014, the NTA started talking about the 15 year rule in a 2014 newsletter -->https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/NTA_Small_Public_Service_Vehicles_Leaflet_-_Web_Version1.pdf

The 9/10/15 year rule has been around for almost a decade and age limits were put back 3 times during the lockdown.  Any you get a reminder every time you do the suitability. 

How much notice do youse really need 

[mercenary for hire]

Watty if you had to fork out 32.5k for your current vehicle you might think differently...

The registration plate is not a good metric of the quality of the vehicle and never has been.My heap has been NCT'd more than most of the fleet.I'm going with the flow and upgrading but I'd be pissed off getting rid of a 2013 Prius to replace it with a 2017 Prius at huge expense with all the inflation stuff.

Drivers won't actually leave they'll just buy shittier vehicles like Dacias and Renaults.