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Re: Whats the stoty bout this new 10 year rule
« Reply #150 on: September 20, 2022, 08:36:51 am »
The current rules, before any new proposal is activated;

The 05 and 06's are the very last to go as they got the covid 2 year extension on top of the 15 year rule, meaning that the 05's are all gone this year and the 06's next year as soon as they hit their 17th birthday..

The 07 and 08's did not qualify fer the covid extension because they were not being put off the road at the time, and with the 15 year rule will go off the road this year or next as soon as they hit their 15th birthday.

"Where the vehicle licence was first granted before 1st January 2009 and the vehicle was
associated with that licence on 1st January 2013, the vehicle can be licensed up to the 15th
anniversary of the date of its first registration."

https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/NTA_Small_Public_Service_Vehicles_Leaflet_-_Web_Version1.pdf

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Re: Whats the stoty bout this new 10 year rule
« Reply #151 on: September 20, 2022, 09:38:09 am »
Dunno Belker the lady said it only applied to certain years and mine was excluded.The wording of this consultation is different to the previous ones that gave a free pass to all.In me head I was already changing vehicles so my plan hasn't changed.

Any of yis in any doubt should contact the NTA before you spend the new car fund on a trip to Disneyland or anything fancy.
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Re: Whats the stoty bout this new 10 year rule
« Reply #152 on: September 20, 2022, 09:48:42 am »
Dunno Belker the lady said it only applied to certain years and mine was excluded.The wording of this consultation is different to the previous ones that have a free pass to all.In me head I was already changing vehicles so my plan hasn't change changed.

Any of yis in any doubt should contact the NTA before you spend the new car fund on a trip to Disneyland or anything fancy.
I don't want to be leading you up the 'Garden Path' here MFH but the rules the lady in the NTA were stating are the current rules today.
IF the new proposal is passed then a cab due to expire in 2023 as yours does will get an extension IF the proposal is passed !

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Re: Whats the stoty bout this new 10 year rule
« Reply #153 on: September 20, 2022, 09:52:41 am »
yiz jammy cocksuckers yiz.

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Re: Whats the stoty bout this new 10 year rule
« Reply #154 on: September 20, 2022, 09:56:11 am »
Dunno Belker the lady said it only applied to certain years and mine was excluded.The wording of this consultation is different to the previous ones that have a free pass to all.In me head I was already changing vehicles so my plan hasn't change changed.

Any of yis in any doubt should contact the NTA before you spend the new car fund on a trip to Disneyland or anything fancy.
I don't want to be leading you up the 'Garden Path' here MFH but the rules the lady in the NTA were stating are the current rules today.
IF the new proposal is passed then a cab due to expire in 2023 as yours does will get an extension IF the proposal is passed !
That's wat I taut Ken....basically a "stay of execution"  for the next 2 yers ...but to be reviewed end of 2023  to see probably if putin gets a bullit an the "great depression" does or doesn't  occur ...they seem to be playin it by ear
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Re: Whats the stoty bout this new 10 year rule
« Reply #155 on: September 20, 2022, 10:01:10 am »
I suppose that's one way to interpret it and you might be right Belker.

My thinking is I'm part of a small group of elite drivers who have taken advantage of multiple loopholes and extensions over the years.By applying the age rules just to us there won't be so much pressure on the car market and if we can't upgrade well it's no big loss to the fleet from a numbers perspective.

Now there are many more lads driving 2012 and 2013 vehicles that might have been in bother having to upgrade due to availability..As the NTA say themselves it's a staggered approach to updating the fleet.Personally I don't think they know what they're doing as all they ever achieve is a watered down version of the UK taxi market.But that's another days shit talk.

It may well turn out that a fifteen year rule for all comes in around 2025.That's a long way off though.I'm going new on this one and In a few years I'm mortgage free so I'm in a relatively comfortable situation even if the economy dies for a while.

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Re: Whats the stoty bout this new 10 year rule
« Reply #156 on: September 20, 2022, 10:04:26 am »
Dr. Martin Gooter Bling:
yiz jammy cocksuckers yiz.

Don't sweat it DMG.If it's any consolation you should see a 40/50% reduction in yer fuel bill and you'll have the comfort of a newer motor.May even pay for itself.

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Re: Whats the stoty bout this new 10 year rule
« Reply #157 on: September 20, 2022, 10:57:59 am »
MFH---my interpretation is that max age is 15yrs----except for Covid extensions-- so if you 06 was due to be dumped in 21 so you got to end 22 with the exemptions so in theory the motor is 16.5 far out side the review to extend to a 15 year rule --in 2023/24 no motor that will be 15 will be permitted !

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Re: Whats the stoty bout this new 10 year rule
« Reply #158 on: September 20, 2022, 11:32:20 am »
That's probably right Punter.Makes more sense.

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Re: Whats the stoty bout this new 10 year rule
« Reply #159 on: September 20, 2022, 11:46:25 am »
Consultation to tell us how to do our job !!! Laffin


What age is your heap now Bubba?
Change in 2025. 2010 motor
It seems like the new proposal won't be of any benifit to you Bubba.
I thought you were a saloon driver these days.
I am Ken. Skoda Octavia.

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Re: Whats the stoty bout this new 10 year rule
« Reply #160 on: September 20, 2022, 11:53:26 am »
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Hi all, I hope you are all keeping well
I wonder can you please tell me the Actual Date that you will be Announcing the extension to the final date of operation for Taxis currently licensed but due to be put off the road commencing January 1st 2023, a figure I believe to be in the region of 5300 vehicles ?. I have many drivers asking me the same.
Clearly, as previously flagged to this office, thousands have now left the industry and I note with a sense of irony , the authority has now engaged in a recruitment campaign for new drivers .
As outlined in previous communications, the lack of charging infrastructure for EVs (in addition to other negative issues)  is now worse than ever and the pitfalls of ev ownership are now become apparent to those drivers who invested in new EVs, also the lack of availability of suitable replacement vehicles is a huge issue for those intending to remain in the industry and remain driving reliable i.c.e. powered vehicles.
It would be a great pity for the industry to haemorrhage any more experienced drivers in Q1 of 2023 , in a similar fashion to the wav exodus a few years back where the situation became so serious the big red button was pushed and remaining wavs,  many unfit for purpose in my opinion, were exempted from end of life rules.
The reality of the matter is that 100 vehicles per week will need to be replaced commencing January 2023, I hope you won't stand idly by and watch thousands more drivers wither on the vine between now and January.
The anxiety levels for drivers finding themselves having to change their vehicles against the backdrop of scant availablity could and should be mitigated by the announcement of the extension sooner rather than later .
Yours sincerely

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Whats the stoty bout this new 10 year rule
« Reply #161 on: September 20, 2022, 12:30:59 pm »
Ken gives hope, Has any 2012 heap due to expire 2023 gotten confirmation that its included in the proposal? It doesn’t make sense that they’ll exclude 2012 cars and extend only 2013/2014 cars
« Last Edit: September 20, 2022, 12:35:08 pm by mkahawani »

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Re: Whats the stoty bout this new 10 year rule
« Reply #162 on: September 20, 2022, 12:59:50 pm »
That's correct his car will only be 12 as the Covid exemption permitted it --I figure all cars will be let run to 15 ,that's what the review --MFH car is 06 so its already too old and is only on the road per Covid --
When the 9 year rule arrived anything that was on the road could run to 15 but all new entries were 10 max !
I dumped a lovely Voyager as it was 10 only had it 4 years but my buddy had a 06 Carina that's still valid till Dec 2022 !

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Re: Whats the stoty bout this new 10 year rule
« Reply #163 on: September 20, 2022, 01:06:32 pm »
That's correct his car will only be 12 as the Covid exemption permitted it --I figure all cars will be let run to 15 ,that's what the review --MFH car is 06 so its already too old and is only on the road per Covid --
When the 9 year rule arrived anything that was on the road could run to 15 but all new entries were 10 max !
I dumped a lovely Voyager as it was 10 only had it 4 years but my buddy had a 06 Carina that's still valid till Dec 2022 !
Correct. Any car licenced prior to Jan 2013 got 15 years from date of fist registration. So a 09 heap got till 2024 etc.

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Re: Whats the stoty bout this new 10 year rule
« Reply #164 on: September 20, 2022, 06:08:17 pm »
I changed my 06 Prius in 2015,replaced it with a 2011 Prius,like MFH I could still be driving my 06 today(15yr rule + 2yrs covid extension)...the wording is not completely clear to me but it looks like I could potentially get to the NTA end date of 2025,my current Prius would be 15 in March 2026.

 


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