Whats the stoty bout this new 10 year rule

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

I changed my 06 Prius in 2015,replaced it with a 2011 Prius,like MFH I could still be driving my 06 today(15yr rule + 2yrs covid extension)...the wording is not completely clear to me but it looks like I could potentially get to the NTA end date of 2025,my current Prius would be 15 in March 2026.

Your licence should have last date it can be licenced as a taxi

[watty]

There seems to be a lot of confusion around this proposal.  If you get in touch with the NTA, probably best to get the answer in writing!


https://www.nationaltransport.ie/public-consultation-on-proposed-small-public-service-vehicle-contingency-measure-vehicle-supply-maximum-permissible-age-regulations/

FWIW, it seems to me that no car will be put off the road before 2025 but I could be wrong.  NTA are thinking about 20 year saloon taxis!  I could be wrong!

(2) phasing out these temporary exceptional contingency Regulations from 2025 for the oldest extended life vehicles (15 and 20 years) to ensure an easier transition back to those appropriate Regulation 31 SPSV age limits;

[mercenary for hire]

Sorry Watty I just posted after I didn't see your post.



I'm looking here at the background notes on the NTA website and it does actually say the following.....


The proposal is to temporary extend the maximum permissible age for taxis and hackneys such that no current vehicle licence holder is forced out of the industry because a replacement vehicle cannot be purchased and the current exceptional geopolitical , climate challenge and restricted supply environments."

I'm a current licence holder with a final operation date in 2023.

Then they say "phasing out the temporary exceptional contingency regulations from 2025 for the oldest extended life vehicles(15 and 20 years) to ensure an easier transition back to those appropriate Regulation 31 SPSV age limits"

What are they on about mentioning 20 years?Anyone wanna explain for me


 

[watty]

I wonder if it would be hard for the NTA computer boffins to auto-generate an email to let affected drivers know they're in the range for an extension?  Would solve a lot of confusion.

[Shallow Hal]

I changed my 06 Prius in 2015,replaced it with a 2011 Prius,like MFH I could still be driving my 06 today(15yr rule + 2yrs covid extension)...the wording is not completely clear to me but it looks like I could potentially get to the NTA end date of 2025,my current Prius would be 15 in March 2026.

Your licence should have last date it can be licenced as a taxi

Under current regulations,March 2023 is the final date of operation,I only received the renewal process mail(current licence expires on Nov 18th) from them today,I like a lot of licence holders was about to change my car,I was gonna put it through the NCT and see what exactly it needs,if anything expensive reared it's ugly head I was just gonna change the car rather than spend money on a car that will only get 4 months use(Nov-March)...but with this current proposal I could potentially get to 2025 depending on the criteria they apply.

[Shallow Hal]

I wonder if it would be hard for the NTA computer boffins to auto-generate an email to let affected drivers know they're in the range for an extension?  Would solve a lot of confusion.

It certainly wouldn't but they won't generate anything until the proposal is passed...or not...which won't be until after the final submission date in Oct.

[Punter]

In my view Shallow is fine as it wont be a 15 year licensed taxi till 2026 they wont allow the two year Covid extension in the calculation--
Basically if your 10/11/12 reg -- you're fine for 15 years !
My car is 151 so  it should be OK till 2030 ---very doubtful the Driver will get that far !  75 !

[mercenary for hire]

Another way of looking at it is the 2005 cars can stay until 2025 which so happens to be 20 years that are mentioned above.I don't understand why they mention 20 years otherwise..

Edit I just saw that Watty made the same point.Only took my two hours to get to the same place.Long covid probably..

I've emailed them for more clarification.Could be a while getting back to me.

[watty]

You made the same point yourself almost 2 hours ago!  Defo long covid, or dementia, or your missus is poisoning your dinner 

What are they on about mentioning 20 years?Anyone wanna explain for me

[Punter]

Current max on Wheelie is 15 years hence if standard taxi gets the 5 years extension so will the WAV thus 20 years !

[mercenary for hire]

Ok I'm gonna post this and have a few cans to rest my brain....
"The proposal is to temporarily extend the maximum permissible age for taxis and hackneys such that no current vehicle licence holder is forced out of the industry because a replacement vehicle cannot be purchased in the current exceptional geopolitical, climate challenge and restricted supply environments."

Note that it says no current licence holder.I'm a current licence holder.Maybe I'll ring them in the morning.

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

Then they say "phasing out the temporary exceptional contingency regulations from 2025 for the oldest extended life vehicles(15 and 20 years) to ensure an easier transition back to those appropriate Regulation 31 SPSV age limits"

What are they on about mentioning 20 years?Anyone wanna explain for me

OK, pure speculation OMP but if they extend 10 year licences by 5 years, they may have to extend 15 year licences by 5 years too.

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

Current max on Wheelie is 15 years hence if standard taxi gets the 5 years extension so will the WAV thus 20 years !

Just seen this. Ditto.

[Belker]

Consultation to tell us how to do our job !!! Laffin

What age is your heap now Bubba?

Change in 2025. 2010 motor

It seems like the new proposal won't be of any benifit to you Bubba.
I thought you were a saloon driver these days.

I am Ken. Skoda Octavia.

How did you get a 15 year license on a 2010 saloon motor Bubba ?
I know you did but I don't understand why ?


"Where the vehicle licence was first granted before 1st January 2009 and the vehicle was
associated with that licence on 1st January 2013, the vehicle can be licensed up to the 15th
anniversary of the date of its first registration."
https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/NTA_Small_Public_Service_Vehicles_Leaflet_-_Web_Version1.pdf

[Belker]

MFH---my interpretation is that max age is 15yrs----except for Covid extensions-- so if you 06 was due to be dumped in 21 so you got to end 22 with the exemptions so in theory the motor is 16.5 far out side the review to extend to a 15 year rule --in 2023/24 no motor that will be 15 will be permitted !

MFH's Joe is 06 with a 15 year license takes it to 2021 and 2 covid extensions takes it to 2023.
And if the current proposal is passed fer most likely a 2 year extension then he has till 2025.

NTA Email;
"phasing out these temporary exceptional contingency Regulations from 2025 for the oldest extended life vehicles (15 and 20 years)".