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Re: Whats the stoty bout this new 10 year rule
« Reply #210 on: September 22, 2022, 01:04:40 pm »


"Where the vehicle licence was first granted before 1st January 2009 and the vehicle was
associated with that licence on 1st January 2013
, the vehicle can be licensed up to the 15th
anniversary of the date of its first registration."

https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/NTA_Small_Public_Service_Vehicles_Leaflet_-_Web_Version1.pdf

Read it again. There`s nearly 2,000 saloon taxis still active with 2010,2011 and 2012 registrations . There`s quite a few older reg still active.
I don't understand how those cars (and not Hal's) got 15 year licenses ??

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Re: Whats the stoty bout this new 10 year rule
« Reply #211 on: September 22, 2022, 01:46:18 pm »
Because I changed my car in 2015,the 10 Yr rule had already come into force before then.

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Re: Whats the stoty bout this new 10 year rule
« Reply #212 on: September 22, 2022, 04:27:24 pm »


"Where the vehicle licence was first granted before 1st January 2009 and the vehicle was
associated with that licence on 1st January 2013
, the vehicle can be licensed up to the 15th
anniversary of the date of its first registration."

https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/NTA_Small_Public_Service_Vehicles_Leaflet_-_Web_Version1.pdf

Read it again. There`s nearly 2,000 saloon taxis still active with 2010,2011 and 2012 registrations . There`s quite a few older reg still active.
I don't understand how those cars (and not Hal's) got 15 year licenses ??
No bother Ken.

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Re: Whats the stoty bout this new 10 year rule
« Reply #213 on: September 22, 2022, 05:12:12 pm »


"Where the vehicle licence was first granted before 1st January 2009 and the vehicle was
associated with that licence on 1st January 2013
, the vehicle can be licensed up to the 15th
anniversary of the date of its first registration."

https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/NTA_Small_Public_Service_Vehicles_Leaflet_-_Web_Version1.pdf

Read it again. There`s nearly 2,000 saloon taxis still active with 2010,2011 and 2012 registrations . There`s quite a few older reg still active.
I don't understand how those cars (and not Hal's) got 15 year licenses ??
No bother Ken.
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Re: Whats the stoty bout this new 10 year rule
« Reply #214 on: September 22, 2022, 06:49:21 pm »
The way I think how its going to work is any taxi thats less than 15 years old will be aloud operate until it gets to 15 years old.

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Re: Whats the stoty bout this new 10 year rule
« Reply #215 on: September 22, 2022, 08:12:32 pm »
Taxi drivers given extension on 10-year age limit for vehicles (Irish Times, 22 Sept 2022)

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Taxi drivers are to be granted an extension on the current 10-year age limit for their vehicles because of a global shortage of new cars, the Dáil has heard.  Up to 4,000 vehicles that were set to be put off the road next year are now expected to continue operating as taxis next year.  Minister for Transport Eamon Ryan confirmed the National Transport Authority (NTA) had extended the 10-year rule, which limits the age of vehicles drivers could use.  The Minister said there would be a public consultation in the coming weeks but that he expected the extension to be implemented “and I’m glad the NTA took this decision”.

Sinn Féin transport spokesman Darren O’Rourke, who had called for the 10 year rule to be abandoned or extended by five years, welcomed the “U-turn” on the issue.  However, the Minister said it was “far from being a U-turn but recognising the reality that it is very difficult to get vehicles at the present time. There’s a global supply shock”.  “It’s not ideal in terms of having to do an extension, I’ll be honest. We want a modern fleet. It’s not anything against taxi drivers, it’s just setting certain standards,” he said.

Mr O’Rourke insisted it was a U-turn as a number of months ago when taxi drivers “were shouting from the rafters” about a potential shortage of cars “you were categorical in your opposition”.  He also criticised the taxi advisory committee and called for Mr Ryan to “scrap it”. He said it was not reflective of the taxi sector and its interests.  The Meath East TD pointed out the NTA had told public representatives “it was an executive decision” to change the 10-year rule and not a recommendation from the advisory body, which the four taxi sector representative groups were not part as they regard it as “a talking shop”.  Mr Ryan rejected the call and said the advisory committee’s role was to “advise, consider and inform” what the NTA and the department do. He said although he would like the Dublin taxi groups to be represented, the group “has to be a national advisory body”.

4,000  :o  :o  :o
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Re: Whats the stoty bout this new 10 year rule
« Reply #216 on: September 22, 2022, 08:21:11 pm »
Shower of bastards.They only told me via email  on July 6 that there were no plans to give any further extensions.

You have to feel for the lads who dumped good cars to upgrade in the last few weeks.


"Dear MFH.,

 

Thank you for contacting the National Transport Authority (NTA). We refer to your recent correspondence received on the 4th July 2022.

 

During the Covid-19 pandemic NTA introduced two sets of emergency regulations relating to the maximum permissible age of SPSVs, ensuring no vehicle would be forced to exit the fleet as a result of age.

 

In the case of Vehicle license Txxxxx Registration number 06xxxxxx, the final operation date is xxxAPR-2023

At present NTA does not intend to enact emergency regulations to further extend the maximum permissible age of vehicles.

 

As your vehicle is approaching its maximum permissible age you may be able to avail of grant funding towards the purchase of a new vehicle. Further details on the WAV, ESPSV and Scrappage grants can be found on the forms and guides section of NTA’s website

 

If you have any further questions, please call the Information Line on 0818 064 000."

 

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Re: Whats the stoty bout this new 10 year rule
« Reply #217 on: September 22, 2022, 08:30:58 pm »
Shower of bastards.They only told me via email  on July 6 that there were no plans to give any further extensions.

You have to feel for the lads who dumped good cars to upgrade in the last few weeks.


"Dear MFH.,

 

Thank you for contacting the National Transport Authority (NTA). We refer to your recent correspondence received on the 4th July 2022.

 

During the Covid-19 pandemic NTA introduced two sets of emergency regulations relating to the maximum permissible age of SPSVs, ensuring no vehicle would be forced to exit the fleet as a result of age.

 

In the case of Vehicle license Txxxxx Registration number 06xxxxxx, the final operation date is xxxAPR-2023

At present NTA does not intend to enact emergency regulations to further extend the maximum permissible age of vehicles.

 

As your vehicle is approaching its maximum permissible age you may be able to avail of grant funding towards the purchase of a new vehicle. Further details on the WAV, ESPSV and Scrappage grants can be found on the forms and guides section of NTA’s website

 

If you have any further questions, please call the Information Line on 0818 064 000."
That's gas, my heap is a 131 and would have been off the road 25/01/2023.

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Re: Whats the stoty bout this new 10 year rule
« Reply #218 on: September 22, 2022, 08:33:48 pm »
Sorry it's not in order but this was the email I sent to get the above response off the NTA,


"Hi I'm just enquiring to see if there are gonna be any more age extensions on taxi licences in the next few months.My vehicle is getting old but it's roadworthy and it's proving difficult to source a new electric vehicle or even a reasonably priced secondhand motor due to the demand and global semiconductor shortages.I am aware that over 5000 drivers are due to upgrade next year and many will be in a similar situation, possibly planning on replacing a relatively clean hybrid vehicle like mine with a dirtier cheaper diesel alternative.

Recent commentary from government ministers about any sort of "liberalisation" or rideshare is not giving me any confidence in the future of my taxi business.This unhelpful commentary is also discouraging me from reinvesting in the taxi industry with any significant borrowing.To be honest there are better employment opportunities out there than taxi driving.

Any clarification on the vehicle age issue would be greatly appreciated as my vehicle has 9 months left until it's last operational date.

Thanks in advance,
MFH."

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Re: Whats the stoty bout this new 10 year rule
« Reply #219 on: September 22, 2022, 08:35:18 pm »
I honestly placed a deposit on a brand new jammer 90 minutes before the NTA release on their site.They've been cooking this up for at least a few weeks.

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Re: Whats the stoty bout this new 10 year rule
« Reply #220 on: September 22, 2022, 08:36:41 pm »
The extension is not official yet, it's just the Minister putting his best foot forward, considering the Shinners asked for something similar awhile back...

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The Minister said there would be a public consultation in the coming weeks but that he expected the extension to be implemented “and I’m glad the NTA took this decision”.

Sinn Féin transport spokesman Darren O’Rourke, who had called for the 10 year rule to be abandoned or extended by five years, welcomed the “U-turn” on the issue.

The 4,000 number is shocking to me.  You'd think the penpushers in the NTA would have seen this coming a few years back and maybe run an ad/email campaign towards taxi drivers?
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Re: Whats the stoty bout this new 10 year rule
« Reply #221 on: September 22, 2022, 08:44:13 pm »
What they never realise is changing vehicles is a massive pain in the rocks. Between meter installation and calibration and stickers and suitability plus NCT. Nobody in their right mind would change vehicles early if their current heap is running alright.

Every year I don't upgrade I'm saving €3250. Why would any of us pass that opportunity up?

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Re: Whats the stoty bout this new 10 year rule
« Reply #222 on: September 22, 2022, 08:48:45 pm »
I haven't had the meter sealed, and won't until I get clarification that the heap gets a stay of execution.
Sealing the meter for 86.10 for just four months is mad.

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Re: Whats the stoty bout this new 10 year rule
« Reply #223 on: September 22, 2022, 08:55:46 pm »
I can't do my suitability without being sealed AFAIK. If yer doing a change of vehicle the appointment date will suffice. We will both just keep pushing it out until we get more clarity.
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Re: Whats the stoty bout this new 10 year rule
« Reply #224 on: September 22, 2022, 09:23:43 pm »
I can't do my suitability without being sealed AFAIK. If yer doing a change of vehicle the appointment date will suffice. We will both just keep pushing it out until we get more clarity.
Appointment will cover sgs

 


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