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Re: Does he Nuke ?
« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2022, 01:32:51 pm »
Yes the war will be starting very soon !

NO the War will be over Soon .Like WW2 a Nuke or Three and the Americans Proxies in Ukraine will cry enough .Its a travesty that Ukrainians are Dying for American Imperialism .
Petraeus: US would destroy Russia’s troops if Putin uses nuclear weapons in Ukraine
Former CIA director and retired army general says Moscow’s leader is ‘desperate’ and ‘battlefield reality he faces is irreversible’

Former CIA director David Petraeus speaks after leaving the Federal Courthouse in Charlotte, North Carolina, April 23, 2015. Petraeus was sentenced to two years of probation and ordered to pay a $100,000 fine after pleading guilty to mishandling classified information. REUTERS/Chris Keane
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Petraeus: US would wipe out Russian troops in Ukraine if nuclear weapons used in the country – video
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Sun 2 Oct 2022 19.56 BST
The US and its allies would destroy Russia’s troops and equipment in Ukraine – as well as sink its Black Sea fleet – if Russian president Vladimir Putin uses nuclear weapons in the country, former CIA director and retired four-star army general David Petraeus warned on Sunday.

Petraeus said that he had not spoken to national security adviser Jake Sullivan on the likely US response to nuclear escalation from Russia, which administration officials have said has been repeatedly communicated to Moscow.

He told ABC News: “Just to give you a hypothetical, we would respond by leading a Nato – a collective – effort that would take out every Russian conventional force that we can see and identify on the battlefield in Ukraine and also in Crimea and every ship in the Black Sea.”

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The warning comes days after Putin expressed views that many have interpreted as a threat of a larger war between Russia and the west.

Asked if the use of nuclear weapons by Russia in Ukraine would bring America and Nato into the war, Petraeus said that it would not be a situation triggering the alliance’s Article 5, which calls for a collective defense. That is because Ukraine is not part of Nato – nonetheless, a “US and Nato response” would be in order, Petraeus said.

Petraeus acknowledged that the likelihood that radiation would extend to Nato countries under the Article 5 umbrella could perhaps be construed as an attack on a Nato member.

“Perhaps you can make that case,” he said. “The other case is that this is so horrific that there has to be a response – it cannot go unanswered.”

Yet, Petraeus added, “You don’t want to, again, get into a nuclear escalation here. But you have to show that this cannot be accepted in any way.”

Nonetheless, with pressure mounting on Putin after Ukrainian gains in the east of the country under last week’s annexation declaration and resistance to mobilization efforts within Russia mounting, Petraeus said Moscow’s leader was “desperate”.

“The battlefield reality he faces is, I think, irreversible,” he said. “No amount of shambolic mobilization, which is the only way to describe it; no amount of annexation; no amount of even veiled nuclear threats can actually get him out of this particular situation.

“At some point there’s going to have to be recognition of that. At some point there’s going to have to be some kind of beginning of negotiations, as [Ukrainian] President [Volodymyr] Zelenskiy has said, will be the ultimate end.”

But, Petraeus warned, “It can still get worse for Putin and for Russia. And even the use of tactical nuclear weapons on the battlefield won’t change this at all.” Still, he added, “You have to take the threat seriously.”

Senator Marco Rubio, the ranking Republican member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee told CNN that Putin was down to two choices: established defensive lines or withdraw and lose territory.

Rubio said he believed it “quite possible” that Putin could strike distribution points where US and allied supplies are entering Ukraine, including inside Poland. The senator acknowledged the nuclear threat, but he said most worries about “a Russian attack inside Nato territory, for example, aiming at the airport in Poland or some other distribution point”.

“Nato will have to respond to it,” he said. “How it will respond, I think a lot of it will depend on the nature of the attack and the scale and scope of it.”

But as a senator privy to Pentagon briefings, Rubio resisted being drawn on whether he’d seen evidence that Russia is preparing to use nuclear weapons against Ukraine.

“Certainly, the risk is probably higher today than it was a month ago,” Rubio said, predicting that Russia would probably take an intermediate step.

“He may strike one of these logistical points. And that logistical point may not be inside … Ukraine. To me, that is the area that I focus on the most, because it has a tactical aspect to it. And I think he probably views it as less escalatory. Nato may not.”

 This article was amended on 3 October 2022 to correct several misspellings of David Petraeus’s name.

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Re: Does he Nuke ?
« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2022, 04:10:19 pm »
Petraeus said that he had not spoken to national security adviser Jake Sullivan on the likely US response to nuclear escalation from Russia, which administration officials have said has been repeatedly communicated to Moscow.

He told ABC News: “Just to give you a hypothetical, we would respond by leading a Nato – a collective – effort that would take out every Russian conventional force that we can see and identify on the battlefield in Ukraine and also in Crimea and every ship in the Black Sea.”
 rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl.And in 10 Minutes The Russians would reduce New York to Blistering puddles of death ..Patraeus is a fucktard tried for the Republican Nomination once .
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Re: Does he Nuke ?
« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2022, 04:36:50 pm »
John.....you clearly haven't seen Independence Day!!

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Re: Does he Nuke ?
« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2022, 05:09:03 pm »
Hal im hoping there is one Grown up in the Room Zalesnyy and Putin are a Pair of Nutters willing to butcher their own for the Entertainment of American Weapon Sellers .Russian Dail voted today to recognize the New old Russian Part of the Old Russia that is now part of the New Russia .if Putin is true to his word he hits them with a MOAB today or tomorrow .Then moves nukes into place .He is like the Grand Old Duke of York marching his men up then back .If he is going to Nuke he has to do it now or else take his defeat .Possibly blow his own head off ,and hope the next Tzar isint madder than himself .its a total Fuckup people being killed for American Greed .Regan done a deal with Gorbachov then broke it .Like I posted I think he will go Nuke either Three bombs America used two or he will hit one of those Nuclear Powerstations furthest away from Russia nearest to Europe .
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Re: Does he Nuke ?
« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2022, 06:12:03 pm »
No great surprise  it turns out that  the  "antichrist" used to drive a taxi   oops
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Re: Does he Nuke ?
« Reply #35 on: October 04, 2022, 06:09:10 pm »
Just got a video sent to me of Russian tanks being taken out  by American hymars .Its about 99.9999% certain Putin uses Nukes .He only has Two options Nuke or Surrender .
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« Reply #36 on: October 04, 2022, 06:43:26 pm »
Just got a video sent to me of Russian tanks being taken out  by American hymars .Its about 99.9999% certain Putin uses Nukes .He only has Two options Nuke or Surrender .
Or a negotiated settlement, or a withdrawal pending discussions. If he nukes Ukraine he'll have to stop the invasion. A bit like removing the wheels of a car you're about to steal.

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« Reply #37 on: October 04, 2022, 07:00:48 pm »
Just got a video sent to me of Russian tanks being taken out  by American hymars .Its about 99.9999% certain Putin uses Nukes .He only has Two options Nuke or Surrender .
Or a negotiated settlement, or a withdrawal pending discussions. If he nukes Ukraine he'll have to stop the invasion. A bit like removing the wheels of a car you're about to steal.

The Ukranian Sociopath Zalesneyy wont do a sit down he is busy applying to hold the next next World Cup in a country that might be a Nuclear waste land .England based in Chernoble to gain super power when taking Pennos . You seen the video only way to counter that is Nuke the Courage out of them .Big Dommo bought two hens today keep them on the veranda in the flats Eggs for breakfast and Chicken Dinner later on .
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« Reply #38 on: October 04, 2022, 07:28:16 pm »
Just got a video sent to me of Russian tanks being taken out  by American hymars .Its about 99.9999% certain Putin uses Nukes .He only has Two options Nuke or Surrender .
That video is probably a few days old.  Apparently, the Russians are getting out of dodge super-quick and leaving all their gear behind.  They're robbing local cars because they're quicker than tanks.  The Ukranians are fixing up the tanks etc left behind and are using the Russian tanks against the Russians as they retreat!  Karma is a bitch  O:-)
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Re: Does he Nuke ?
« Reply #39 on: October 04, 2022, 07:31:37 pm »
Just got a video sent to me of Russian tanks being taken out  by American hymars .Its about 99.9999% certain Putin uses Nukes .He only has Two options Nuke or Surrender .
That video is probably a few days old.  Apparently, the Russians are getting out of dodge super-quick and leaving all their gear behind.  They're robbing local cars because they're quicker than tanks.  The Ukranians are fixing up the tanks etc left behind and are using the Russian tanks against the Russians as they retreat!  Karma is a bitch  O:-)

Thats why he Nukes them no other Military Option .You can get Iodine Tablets in Booths Liffey Valley .
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Re: Does he Nuke ?
« Reply #40 on: October 04, 2022, 07:34:45 pm »
Can he nuke territory he just welcomed back into Mother Russia a few days ago?
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« Reply #41 on: October 04, 2022, 07:52:11 pm »
Can he nuke territory he just welcomed back into Mother Russia a few days ago?

Why would he do that Ukraine is a Big Place he has plenty of Options .Military HQ in Kiev would be a legitimate War Target .
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Re: Does he Nuke ?
« Reply #42 on: October 04, 2022, 09:08:43 pm »
Only problem is... he says he's not at war, it's a 'special military operation'! 

History is written by the victors.  That's why it's ok that America dropped nuclear bombs on Japan. Twice  >:D

I know you think otherwise but Putin is losing and losing badly.  If he goes nuclear, he'll lose everything, including his life.  He's a psychopath but I just can't see how he tells himself he (or The Empire) wins if he goes nuclear.  At the very least, his country will really suffer.  And if the Russian Generals don't kill him, the 'nice' Westerners will have no choice but to get rid of him (or at least send him into exile to a nice Middle East Country (who probably got nuclear plans off Trump).

And don't know if it's true but I heard on the radio the Americans have the technology to spot and 'neutralise' those small nuclear bombs the second they are turned on.  They have a range of 300km.  So he might not even be able to launch a 'small' nuclear bomb?  Would America get involved to stop one of those 'little' bombs?  The American farmers wouldn't mind if Ukraine stopped producing wheat etc for the next 20 years...  But American sales of military equipment to Eastern Europe versus a few farmers...
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Re: Does he Nuke ?
« Reply #43 on: October 04, 2022, 10:34:14 pm »
Economics and Politics are my Interests .Putin is looking at Russian History since the Bolshevik revolution the West has feared the Peoples Revolution Both Britain and America are running scared .Unlike most of the Western World I dont buy the Anglo Saxon Bullshit .Most of the World looks on the Brit Yank Hegemony as offensive .If 30 Million Americans or Brits were wiped out in the morning I wouldnt take a day off work .China ,India Russia represent about half of the worlds population The Yank Fuckology is supported by about 23% of the Worlds Population mainly White Privelaged .

About 30 Million Pakistani's are flooded out of their homes but America or Britain havent sent a fucking Li Lo .Wake the Fuck up .Putin is winning this War hands Down he now has the Military right to go Nuke .Do you think for a Minute if the Yanks were getting their arse kicked they wouldnt go Nuke .Putin set this up to look like he had no option but to nuke .

Look around you .Your old enough to remember when we didnt Gobble American Cock and Swallow .Look at us now .We are little more than a Clinker on Americas Arse Hole .Wait till the Traitor gets back into Power .The most Dangerous Fucking Piece of Shit ever got a vote in this country .Watch him give us a vote of Mongrel sex change beasts being granted equal rights with GOD creations and wanting us to join an American Led European Army .

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« Reply #44 on: October 05, 2022, 05:35:17 pm »
Economics and Politics are my Interests .Putin is looking at Russian History since the Bolshevik revolution the West has feared the Peoples Revolution Both Britain and America are running scared .Unlike most of the Western World I dont buy the Anglo Saxon Bullshit .Most of the World looks on the Brit Yank Hegemony as offensive .If 30 Million Americans or Brits were wiped out in the morning I wouldnt take a day off work .China ,India Russia represent about half of the worlds population The Yank Fuckology is supported by about 23% of the Worlds Population mainly White Privelaged .

About 30 Million Pakistani's are flooded out of their homes but America or Britain havent sent a fucking Li Lo .Wake the Fuck up .Putin is winning this War hands Down he now has the Military right to go Nuke .Do you think for a Minute if the Yanks were getting their arse kicked they wouldnt go Nuke .Putin set this up to look like he had no option but to nuke .

Look around you .Your old enough to remember when we didnt Gobble American Cock and Swallow .Look at us now .We are little more than a Clinker on Americas Arse Hole .Wait till the Traitor gets back into Power .The most Dangerous Fucking Piece of Shit ever got a vote in this country .Watch him give us a vote of Mongrel sex change beasts being granted equal rights with GOD creations and wanting us to join an American Led European Army .

Johnny ..yu know stuff bout politics an history an stuff ...can yu answer me sumtin that's bothering me ....
I was readin wiki pedi  on the armies of the world ....an it says thers 1,350,000 soldiers in Russia.....
Accordin to the Americans 80,000 of them are brown bread an wecwer told ther all gicknaa hillbillies that putin used cause he didn't want to upset the middle classes so he used rif raf ....
Then wer is the other over a million soldiers an why is he recruitin more rif raf  300,000 if he still has over a million in the barracks sort o ting ?
An another ting while I'm at it ....
Is them Russians that are supposed to be retreatin runnin away cause ther gettin the bollix blown off them  ? Or ordered to go back by putin to draw the ukranimums into a concentrated area
On a front line wer he can trow a  cople o nukes at them an kill them all at once ?
It doesn't seem to add up ...the only alternative view I have is putins Russia is bankrupt from corruption an nis desperate .....he's supposed to be a chess player ....was them 80,000 gicknaas sacrificed for a huge military gambit that will be used to justify nucleur war ?
I hav a very uneasy feelin boutvthe hole ting cause
So far it's like he's too stupit to be that stupit ...now I know yur a bit of a fan of his so I want an unbiased opinion  like i was readin "the times" ..an not " the star " sort o ting ....
So far I tink this war is a war on America an europe not ukraine ....Ukraine is just the chess board but hes after the American king ....
But he can't succeed in damaging the world's economy enough ...unless he uses nucleur weapons ....which will collapse the stock markets world wide....
Is he playin a much bigger game than the telly wud hav us believe?
These ukranimum " victories " ar startin to giv me the Willies  oops
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