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« on: October 25, 2022, 11:19:53 am »
Supermarkets and off-licences will be able to sell alcohol from 10.30am on Sundays under reforms to licence hours to be discussed by Cabinet

Under current legislation, supermarkets cannot sell alcohol until 12.30pm on Sundays.

However, this will be brought in line with the other days of the week and alcohol sales will be permitted from 10.30am to 10pm from Monday to Sunday.

Justice Minister Helen McEntee is bringing proposal for new legislation to Cabinet which will introduce significant changes to licence laws.

There is to be no change to opening hours on Christmas Day when all pubs and nightclubs are required to close.

Publicans will continue to be able to serve customers on Good Friday after the ban on pub closures was lifted a number of years ago.

 

Pubs will be able to serve until 12.30am every night of the week under the new form of licensing laws.

The new legislation will also clear the way for nightclubs to stay open until 6am, but last orders will be required to be taken at 5am.

 
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Ms McEntee will bring a memo to Cabinet this morning seeking to modernise the country’s antiquated licensing laws.

Under existing legislation, pubs have to stop serving at 11.30pm between Monday and Thursday, with this extending to 12.30am on Friday and Saturday, while final orders are at 11pm on Sunday.


This will now be standardised across all seven days of the week with pubs permitted to open from 10.30am to 12.30am every day.


In a move aimed at bringing Ireland in line with other European countries, nightclubs will have the option to remain open until 6am – with the requirement that alcohol cannot be served after 5am, with dancing able to continue until closing time.

Opening hours for late bars will remain at 2.30am and a new late-bar permit will be required to keep serving later than regular pubs.

A new system of permits for late bars and nightclubs will be introduced as part of the reforms. The minister is aiming to have legislation underpinning the change to opening hours enacted next year.

At Cabinet, Ms McEntee will formally seek permission to begin the process of drafting the Sale of Alcohol Bill to replace a patchwork of 100 laws – some of which are over 200 years old and two-thirds of which pre-date the foundation of the State.

Once enacted, the bill will lead to one piece of legislation to regulate the sale of alcohol.

The new laws are also aimed at supporting the development of the night-time economy.

A government source said the new legislation will “emphasise that the sale of alcohol cannot be treated like the sale of any other good”.

“We must retain restrictions on its sale and on who is permitted to sell it, and to whom. These proposals will ensure that the sale of alcohol will remain closely regulated,” he said.

Ireland will maintain a restrictive licensing system with licences only granted by the courts and objections allowed from fire authorities, local authorities, the HSE, An Garda Síochána and local communities.

The interests of public health officials, gardaí, the local community and the safety of those present on licensed premises will be prioritised under the laws.

New conditions for operating a late bar or nightclub will include a requirement to have CCTV on the premises and security staff properly accredited with the Private Security Authority.

The Government believes nightclub permits will largely be availed of by bigger nightclubs and venues, mainly in cities, and will not be availed of by many nightclubs.

Ms McEntee is expected to say the new laws will make sure alcohol is tightly regulated while also protecting the sustainability of the country’s pub and night-time sector.

Details of the licensing law reforms will be announced once the Cabinet agrees to overhaul the rules governing the opening of pub, clubs and late bars.
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Re: Gargle .
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2022, 11:37:32 am »
Id say yer one McEntee like a bit of gargling on a Sunday bout 10AM.
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Re: Gargle .
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2022, 11:52:40 am »
6AM night clubs .Minimum wage jobs for bar staff and more busses so dont know how it will work out for us ?
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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2022, 12:10:45 pm »
A lot of pubs in the suburbs have changed their business so they're happy selling food during the day and don't care so much about selling drink late.Many will still close early.They don't want to be serving until 12.30 during the week.Some barely like serving to 11.30 as it is.Many of the veteran barmen wanna be getting home at a reasonable hour.

For night drivers it will just mean less spikes in demand and more usage of the apps.Freenow doesn't work when it's overloaded and that's the only reason they were calling for staggered opening hours.But yis knew that already..

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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2022, 12:52:02 pm »
How many night clubs are there ?What constitutes a Night Club Legally ?
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« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2022, 05:20:46 pm »
How many night clubs are there ?What constitutes a Night Club Legally ?
Any venue with a 10 gallon pot of chicken curry and a 7 inch vinyl of "Amhrán na bhFiann"  :2cheers


https://abacuslegal.ie/alcohol-and-licensing-solicitor-dublin/nightclubs-and-dancing/

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Nightclubs and Dancing

The first thing to note about setting up a nightclub in Ireland is that there is no specific nightclub licence that can be applied for. Nightclubs are seen in Irish licensing law as a late night extension to a bar or hotel licence. Legally to be able to set up a night club a premises must already hold a pub licence (seven day ordinary on-licence) or a hotel licence. As you see from our other information pages, it is not possible to create a new pub licence. The options therefore for anyone looking to set up a nightclub in Ireland are:
- Lease a premises with an existing pub licence and apply to add the Public Dancing Licence
- Lease a new premises and purchase an existing pub licence or (indeed an off licence) and apply to transfer the licence to new premises.
- With the licence transfer apply to add a Public Dancing Licence and a Music & Singing Licence for the performances

A Public Dancing Licence essentially permits the sale of alcohol to a later period in the evening. On Friday, Saturday and the eve of a bank holiday this can be up to 2.30a.m. On other nights, the cut off time is 2.00am.
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« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2022, 07:28:49 pm »
The late opening is optional. I'm sure we'll see an end to binge drinking and possibly more work for the ex-army lads that like to work from Reveille to about 13.00.

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« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2022, 09:57:12 pm »
The amount of times I've woken up on a Sunday morning at 10.30,not a drop in the gaff and I'd be hangin till 12.30...well no more Hal,you too can be hammered again by lunchtime!!

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« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2022, 02:03:19 pm »
The amount of times I've woken up on a Sunday morning at 10.30,not a drop in the gaff and I'd be hangin till 12.30...well no more Hal,you too can be hammered again by lunchtime!!
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« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2022, 02:34:59 pm »
I suspect it's gonna allow some places to serve pints and maybe a nice breakfast or two for the tourists.Not everyone is gonna be drinking that early but to have half of yer menu closed because of the time discourages customers coming in.Publicans really have the government in their pockets.

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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2022, 02:56:43 pm »
I suspect it's gonna allow some places to serve pints and maybe a nice breakfast or two for the tourists.Not everyone is gonna be drinking that early but to have half of yer menu closed because of the time discourages customers coming in.Publicans really have the government in their pockets.
Publicans really have the government in their pockets.

You hit the nail on the head. This should allow people to leave late-night pubs and go on to clubs if they wish.

Punters can now pre-drink (a very Irish term), by drinking at home and then heading straight to a club thus bypassing the average, overpriced pubs.

The city should be far less chaotic, and it should put an end to underground raves around the Naas Road and Cork Street.

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« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2022, 05:47:53 pm »
The flukwits closed it all down 10 years ago because there was too much hassle and  they thought the golden cow of Paddy and John would still go out for 7e pints at 9PM till !AM……They will need big hooks to change the way young people spend money now..The dog on the street knows better as always! ::fds
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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2022, 07:18:44 pm »
I used to hit the boozer for the last hour for a nightcap, now the last hour could be 02.30, a bit like the Kilmardinny is already. 8)

 


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