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Why Putin WILL Nuke if he has to .
« on: February 21, 2023, 10:37:00 pm »
By John Stanton

“The United States will provide Ukraine with a new $500 million infusion of aid to help the government in Kyiv continue paying salaries, pensions and providing services, Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen said Thursday. Yellen detailed the assistance following her meeting Wednesday with Ukrainian Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal and Finance Minister Sergiy Marchenko, saying it was necessary to help their government continue to function…

‘The needs of Ukraine are urgent, and we plan to deploy this direct aid to Ukraine as soon as possible to be used on most urgent needs,’ Yellen said. NDTV.com

“In March, 32 states will begin cutting food stamp benefits for more than 30 million Americans, leading toward what some are referring to as a “hunger cliff.” This will mean that poor households will lose about $82 a month in SNAP [also known as food stamps] benefits, even as food prices continue to soar from inflation. (The other 18 states had already ended their emergency food assistance programs.)…The number of infants in Mississippi being treated for congenital syphilis has jumped by more than 900% over the last five years. In 2021, the state was given a federal grant of $18.4 million to hire public health care workers. It spent only $3.6 million.” Jeffrey St. Clair, Roaming Charges, Counterpunch

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If you complain about the billions of dollars going to prop up Ukraine’s corrupt and dictatorial government (pay their pensions, for example) you are branded a “Putin Apologist” by both democrats (particularly) and republicans alike. What gives?


Many Americans are critical of Biden’s scheming on Ukraine because they never got to have a vote in this multibillion dollar transfer of wealth and machinery to one of the most corrupt nation’s in the world. If ever there were a case for a national referendum in the USA, it would have been over this issue. Biden came to the podium one day about a year ago and essentially said, “The USA is sanctioning everything Russian and propping up our newest puppet, Zelensky. If you don’t like it, lump it.”

Republicans hate the thought of the hungry (children, too) and homeless in America getting any sort of handout from the US federal government, but they support handouts to a half-baked racist country called Ukraine which is happily ripping off US taxpayers with the blessing of America’s most virulent Russia haters like Anthony Blinken and Victoria Nuland, who are akin to sharks during a feeding frenzy when discussing anything Russian.

Guess what? Roughly 24 percent of US enlisted personnel are “food insecure” and encouraged by the Pentagon to apply for SNAP benefits through the United States Department of Agriculture. “This summer [2022], DoD released a roadmap, Strengthening Food Security in the Force, which reveals that a shocking 24 percent of active duty service members experience some level of food insecurity, and it acknowledges the connections between hunger and mission readiness, troop retention and recruitment. It should be noted that this survey was done before the recent spike in inflation, so it is likely that this estimate is low.” American Enterprise Institute

That 24 percent figure doesn’t account for the million plus US veterans who depend on those SNAP “hand outs” to get by. The Center for Budget and Policy Priorities reported that,“SNAP Helps 1.2 Million Low-Income Veterans, Including Thousands in Every State.”

Oh, and hose hungry active duty enlisted personnel are the ones who are going to go and fight the Russians in Europe, if Biden and Zelensky get their way.

And get this: We learn from the Watson Institute at Brown University the costs to care for veterans of post 9-11 wars are in the trillions. “Between 2001 and 2050, the total costs of caring for veterans of the post-9/11 wars are estimated to reach between $2.2 and $2.5 trillion. This includes the amount already paid in disability and related benefits and medical care, as well as the projected future cost of lifetime disability benefits and healthcare for those who have served in the military during these wars.”

How can we afford to give billions to Ukraine in the face of problems like these, not to mention antagonizing China in the Process?

War is coming for us all because of us all, it seems.

Lunatics in Charge of USA: Look Around!

I am wondering if “Corn Pop” Biden would have authorized an F-22 to shoot down Lawn Chair Larry. One of Biden’s rationales for ordering shoot-downs was that the 2023 balloons were in airspace reserved for commercial aircraft (I wonder too what kind of medal those F-22 pilots were awarded). Anyway, according to Wikipedia, “ On July 2, 1982, Larry Walters made a 45-minute flight in a homemade aerostat made of an ordinary patio chair and 45 helium-filled weather balloons. The aircraft rose to an altitude of about 16,000 feet (4,900 m), drifted from the point of liftoff in San Pedro, California, and entered controlled airspace near Long Beach Airport. During the landing, the aircraft became entangled in power lines, but Walters was able to climb down safely.”

Zelensky is sure to appear at the Oscar Ceremony in March. Everyone will stand and applaud this man who is nothing but a wartime tyrant. How could he not be ruthless in this role? And his ruthlessness is on display in the manner in which he sacrifices his soldiers in battles they can’t possibly win, or in the elimination of all things Russian in Ukraine. He and his wife live the good life, sheltered and protected by his military only because he is the perfect pitchman. I can’t help but think of Jerry Lewis and his telethon each time I see Zelensky, tin cup in hand.

Don’t be surprised to see Zelensky throw out the ceremonial first pitch this coming American Major League Baseball season.

Critics

Others say that critics of Zelensky are little more than “Useful Idiots” of Putin. But to those critics Zelensky represents a waste of money, billions spent—or lost in the shadows— that could be used in the United States for SNAP, to improve rail safety, or even build a high speed rail that the US currently does not have, but China does. Better still, those billions could be used on healthcare improvements sorely needed in the USA.

Instead, we are once again aching for war. In fact, we’ve already got it by proxy. General Mark Milley, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, is fond of saying that the Russians have failed in Ukraine. Maybe so, but he has got losses in Iraq and Afghanistan on his record, nothing to be proud about. And yet Milley and all the other generals who punched tickets during those wars are not held accountable. They and the policymakers they obeyed brought no credit to their service, only a $2.5 trillion dollar VA bill.

This Ukraine war was never about that country’s independence, freedom, or the future of mankind. You can pull up all the maps you like showing NATO expansion and speeches from the West claiming that Russia wants a grand empire like the old Soviet Union. All these speeches are complete nonsense.

Putin was sucker punched by the USA/West. The American people took an uppercut from Biden who pretended to be a liberal and devote Catholic. He is neither.

US leaders don’t care about the people of Palestine, Ohio, who will ultimately be polluted to death by chemicals from a recent train derailment in an accident that may well have been mitigated if Biden had enforced regulations on brake safety, as St. Clair reported in Roaming Charges at Counterpunch.

They just don’t care.

“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants and it provides the further advantage of giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience.” Albert Camus

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Re: Why Putin WILL Nuke if he has to .
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2023, 11:03:41 pm »
John stanton???? Who he ?
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Re: Why Putin WILL Nuke if he has to .
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2023, 11:13:33 pm »
John stanton???? Who he ?

He writes for a NZ liberal on line newspaper https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL2302/S00037/the-world-gone-wrong-the-usa-proxy-war-against-russia-will-unleash-hell.htm   .Interesting read I have been saying that from day one almost ver batum !
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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2023, 11:22:08 pm »
Occi lads worried about their next car to Ev or not to EV .Which Cripto will they invest in .There are more things to concern yourself with .This years Summer Holiday .Will Liverpoo, make a Comeback .How many winners will Ireland get at Cheltenham . Tomorrow is the 1st anniversary of Bidens war I suppose The Clown Zalesnny will celebrate how he had destroyed his own country because the Yanks asked him to .Think We have taken our eye off the ball Brexit hasent happened yet and this was a very mild winter (thanks to global warming) To misquote the bard "Now is not the winter of our discontent thats next winter / Made glorious summer by this sun [or son] of New York".
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Re: Why Putin WILL Nuke if he has to .
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2023, 08:32:23 am »
Occi the unspoken truth you wont of read this anywhere else .The Ukrainians that are here and others that join them ARE NEVER GOING HOME .Imagine Ukraine to be Ulster with better looking people and you have an image of why .A large Minority of Ukrainians identify as ethnic Russians just like a large Minority of Ulsterfolk Identify as British.If or when Biden withdraws financial support for his War and leaves the Ukrainians to themselves then Civil War will break out among the most heavily militarized civilian armies in the history of Humanity .This War in Ukraine can never stop and cannot ever be won .In a few years Ukrainian folk singers will be going around European Pubs singing songs and rattling the can to collect funds for the Boys Fighting back home just like the IRA of the 70s bid throughout Britain and Ireland .

 Why I think Putin might Nuke is the Military logic of No mans land .If we cannot control it then nobody is going to have it .Occi think about this There are about 60,000 + Ukrainian Refugees in this Country They dont protest they integrate as best they can .They are Ukrainian first but they are also Nationalists and Ethnic Russians depending on their persuasion Zalenskyy is only representing one side of the Ukrainian People he has silenced the Russian minority by banning them from Parliament .Ukraine and Ulster have more in common than starting with a Capital U they are roughly the same beast only Ukraine is 50 times larger with over 50 Million People .Ireland 100 years after Independence still is not an United country mentally or emotionally never mind geographically .Like Irish families who scattered to the four corners of the Globe from Northren Ireland in the 60s and 70s never to return .The Majority of Ukrainians will never return to live in their country of birth and it wont be long before they ask why they are asked to live in tents or hotel rooms or Big Dommos converted back garden shed .

 Occi Economists will price up the cost of Nuclear Fallout spreading all over Europe but Vlad with Bidens urging has spread Ukrainian Fallout all over Europe .Watch as the real cost of Humanitarian aid offered by western countries becomes too much of a burden for some States .Watch Poland a poor country who have done more for Ukrainian Refugees than any other Country as they struggle with the Costs watch Hungary ,Austria even Germany as the cold reality of the fallout of migration hits home .Europe needs to wake up to both Britain and Americas end game .They want to destroy the EU as an Economic block and are using Ukraine and her people as currency .Fair play to Turkey they see the bigger picture having been used by the EU themselves as leverage they wont join US led sanctions or permit NATO expansion as they know the endgame ..Two major earthquakes in Turkey and NATO which they are a member of offer no real help while calling for more guns and bombs for Ukraine Biden offers another half a billion top up loan to Ukraine but only 100 million in aid to Turkey and fuck all to Syria where combined over 50,000 Civilians were killed probably a greater figure than civilian Ukrainians killed in a year of War .Time people woke up the War in Ukraine is about as genuine as Saturday Night Wrestling with Hulk Hogan and Ricky Steamboat its stage managed and the biggest losers are the Ukrainian people then the Russians then the EU .Look at the winners in all of this Big Oil,Big Gas ,Big Military hardware ,Big Pharma Big Star Spangled Banner .Arab Football team owners .Russian Oligarchs' Its shamefull what is happening and not one World leader of note shouting Stop .

I could wish Ukraine a happy first anniversary of your War but that would be crass I will leave that up to Sky News the BBC and all of Americas TV News Stations possibly the Simpsons and South Park .

 
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Re: Why Putin WILL Nuke if he has to .
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2023, 05:20:27 pm »
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41076611.html

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Re: Why Putin WILL Nuke if he has to .
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2023, 07:04:55 pm »
John's new wet dream....Brexit is done....obviously!! lol

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Re: Why Putin WILL Nuke if he has to .
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2023, 08:57:30 pm »
John's new wet dream....Brexit is done....obviously!! lol

Brexits not done it hasent even started yet .Took out Three  British Prime Ministers Cameron  May and Bobo going to take out Richi as well .Ulster Policeman shot and will probably die by dissident republicans with Ulster says Fuck you mobs just waiting to kick off .Young lads here in Dublin being recruited by Dissident republicans to fight refugees and imigrants Brexit hasent even started .The Ukraine war HALF A MILLION YOUNG SOLDIERS AND CIVILIANS ARE DEAD and NOBODY IS SHOUTING STOP !Brits, Yanks and the rest of Europe selling their out of date armerments to Ukraine at full price .When they sat Aid they mean a Line of Credit .I Will repeat that HALF A MILLION PEOPLE DEAD .........WHY .
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Re: Why Putin WILL Nuke if he has to .
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2023, 01:00:04 am »
Putin is a relic from the last century.....first off he was a taxi driver...so I needn't say anymore..but I will ....he's an uppity jumped up idiotic phychopathic thug who only managed to gain power cause the majorityof Russians are thick as  a bucket o shit ....the chinese are goin drop him like a hot potato....
The chinese are way ahead wen it comes ta ape intelligence...
The japs hav bean sayin for decades ...beware the chink...he's as slippery an cute as fuk .....in fact the clink has no allegiance....he's only concerned with business an the accumulation of money .....putin has become a liability...he's an embarrassment....putins other alies North Korea an Iran are States sufferin from a collective
Psychosis an mental illness an shit holes that wud even embarres satin ....
It's important to remember that putin is stalins bastard lovechild....an stalin murdered 60 million Ukrainian an Russians....stalin was the ultimate Russian .....they are genetically programmed to kill everyone
An themselves...ther as Johnny says eco friendly as they reduce human ape numbers because that's all they do ..murder an kill
In contrast USA is full of mongers....majority are also sub human most exemplified in ther election of Donald the ape who paid his way
To president...
America is worth at least 20 times russias gdp .....thege pumped sumtin like 70 billion inta this confrontation...
It's small change to them an the reason why putins invincible army has bean exposed ....putin will lose this war spectacularly....probably sooner than we imagine .....the only question that is at the back of everyone's mind is will he react  by trown the rattle out of the pram by unleashin the nucleur weapons ....yes he will try ..will he succeed all depends on the sanity of his military subordinates....that's a huge unknown.... but they appear to be a backward bastard suicidal aggressive fuked up race of animals an i wudny bet that they possessed the humanity to stop it

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Re: Why Putin WILL Nuke if he has to .
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2023, 01:08:30 pm »
Occi this will take time to write .NO MAN IS AN ISLAND ENTIRE ONTO HIMSELF .We the Human ape have been told that we are a Social creature but that is not true never was .We were forced togeather to make progress now they want to seperate us and the latest experiment proved we are willing ..The bottom line there are too many people on earth simple as .China and America have decided they should survive nobody gives any fuck about Black Africa or Latin America .

 The new order of things cut world population so embrace Homosexuality and transgenderism those people dont breed or at least shouldnt ,Reduce available housing ape wont breed if he dosent have shelter .Now we have Armageddon Imminent known colloquially as AI  .You can now order your shopping on line do your job on line meet your friends on lins no need to be a Social Animal .Soon you will have a digital Partner fuck it in Looney Space through a pair of Goggles .Then The Question is What purpose do certain people have .The shelf packers will be replaced by robots so how will shelfpackers earn a living ?They wont so they wont be born .Natural Selection The Meek shall inherit the World according to Guthenbergs Book .Armies are not Meek they are Agressors never defenders as the only defense is attack .

Occi think of how gullible the Human Ape is .The Man told us World Wide not to leave our Cave do not talk to your neighbors cover your face so you do not betray any emotions and we complied .If we were truly Social animals we would of rebelled .In africa who is best placed to Survive a Drought or a Fire or any great Natural event a member of a Heard of Wilderbeasts or a Solitary Leopard or Cheetah .The mass heard of Wilderbeast could never bee described as Meek but a Little Kitty all alone on his own in the Wilderness .This new AI will grade all of Humanity put a real time Value on their existance and eliminate the dregs .About 90 Billion spent in Ukraine and  8000 Civilians dead nothing spent in Syria or Turkey and over 50,000 Civilians dead ..A Mans Value is based on an accident of birth .The Chinaman is the Most dangerous of all the Beasts he does not believe in any God has no future only today .The Chinaman is the Leopard is the Cheetah .Putin will not be defeated he is telling the truth he is fighting for the future of his version of Humanity .If you read Guthenbergs Book The Devil use to be an Angel before he fell from Grace .America is leading a Money led Deity that only functions on Geld no morality no real value system that is not measured in Dollars and most of the World is following .Back to Gutenbergs Book and he says Jesus beat the Moneylenders out of the Temple .The warning was there Money is no God .To Quote Guthenbergs Book .I am the Lord thy God do not place False Gods Before Me .

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Re: Why Putin WILL Nuke if he has to .
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2023, 02:17:12 pm »
Occi this will take time to write .NO MAN IS AN ISLAND ENTIRE ONTO HIMSELF .We the Human ape have been told that we are a Social creature but that is not true never was .We were forced togeather to make progress now they want to seperate us and the latest experiment proved we are willing ..The bottom line there are too many people on earth simple as .China and America have decided they should survive nobody gives any fuck about Black Africa or Latin America .

 The new order of things cut world population so embrace Homosexuality and transgenderism those people dont breed or at least shouldnt ,Reduce available housing ape wont breed if he dosent have shelter .Now we have Armageddon Imminent known colloquially as AI  .You can now order your shopping on line do your job on line meet your friends on lins no need to be a Social Animal .Soon you will have a digital Partner fuck it in Looney Space through a pair of Goggles .Then The Question is What purpose do certain people have .The shelf packers will be replaced by robots so how will shelfpackers earn a living ?They wont so they wont be born .Natural Selection The Meek shall inherit the World according to Guthenbergs Book .Armies are not Meek they are Agressors never defenders as the only defense is attack .

Occi think of how gullible the Human Ape is .The Man told us World Wide not to leave our Cave do not talk to your neighbors cover your face so you do not betray any emotions and we complied .If we were truly Social animals we would of rebelled .In africa who is best placed to Survive a Drought or a Fire or any great Natural event a member of a Heard of Wilderbeasts or a Solitary Leopard or Cheetah .The mass heard of Wilderbeast could never bee described as Meek but a Little Kitty all alone on his own in the Wilderness .This new AI will grade all of Humanity put a real time Value on their existance and eliminate the dregs .About 90 Billion spent in Ukraine and  8000 Civilians dead nothing spent in Syria or Turkey and over 50,000 Civilians dead ..A Mans Value is based on an accident of birth .The Chinaman is the Most dangerous of all the Beasts he does not believe in any God has no future only today .The Chinaman is the Leopard is the Cheetah .Putin will not be defeated he is telling the truth he is fighting for the future of his version of Humanity .If you read Guthenbergs Book The Devil use to be an Angel before he fell from Grace .America is leading a Money led Deity that only functions on Geld no morality no real value system that is not measured in Dollars and most of the World is following .Back to Gutenbergs Book and he says Jesus beat the Moneylenders out of the Temple .The warning was there Money is no God .To Quote Guthenbergs Book .I am the Lord thy God do not place False Gods Before Me .

The Bible is not just a book its an Almanac a rule book for life and we broke all the rules .

He is a talented lad that Steve Guttenbenberg, he was in the Police Academy films and Three Men and a baby but my favourite was Cocoon.

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Re: Why Putin WILL Nuke if he has to .
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2023, 03:04:54 pm »
Occi this will take time to write .NO MAN IS AN ISLAND ENTIRE ONTO HIMSELF .We the Human ape have been told that we are a Social creature but that is not true never was .We were forced togeather to make progress now they want to seperate us and the latest experiment proved we are willing ..The bottom line there are too many people on earth simple as .China and America have decided they should survive nobody gives any fuck about Black Africa or Latin America .

 The new order of things cut world population so embrace Homosexuality and transgenderism those people dont breed or at least shouldnt ,Reduce available housing ape wont breed if he dosent have shelter .Now we have Armageddon Imminent known colloquially as AI  .You can now order your shopping on line do your job on line meet your friends on lins no need to be a Social Animal .Soon you will have a digital Partner fuck it in Looney Space through a pair of Goggles .Then The Question is What purpose do certain people have .The shelf packers will be replaced by robots so how will shelfpackers earn a living ?They wont so they wont be born .Natural Selection The Meek shall inherit the World according to Guthenbergs Book .Armies are not Meek they are Agressors never defenders as the only defense is attack .

Occi think of how gullible the Human Ape is .The Man told us World Wide not to leave our Cave do not talk to your neighbors cover your face so you do not betray any emotions and we complied .If we were truly Social animals we would of rebelled .In africa who is best placed to Survive a Drought or a Fire or any great Natural event a member of a Heard of Wilderbeasts or a Solitary Leopard or Cheetah .The mass heard of Wilderbeast could never bee described as Meek but a Little Kitty all alone on his own in the Wilderness .This new AI will grade all of Humanity put a real time Value on their existance and eliminate the dregs .About 90 Billion spent in Ukraine and  8000 Civilians dead nothing spent in Syria or Turkey and over 50,000 Civilians dead ..A Mans Value is based on an accident of birth .The Chinaman is the Most dangerous of all the Beasts he does not believe in any God has no future only today .The Chinaman is the Leopard is the Cheetah .Putin will not be defeated he is telling the truth he is fighting for the future of his version of Humanity .If you read Guthenbergs Book The Devil use to be an Angel before he fell from Grace .America is leading a Money led Deity that only functions on Geld no morality no real value system that is not measured in Dollars and most of the World is following .Back to Gutenbergs Book and he says Jesus beat the Moneylenders out of the Temple .The warning was there Money is no God .To Quote Guthenbergs Book .I am the Lord thy God do not place False Gods Before Me .

The Bible is not just a book its an Almanac a rule book for life and we broke all the rules .

He is a talented lad that Steve Guttenbenberg, he was in the Police Academy films and Three Men and a baby but my favourite was Cocoon.
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« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2023, 03:05:16 pm »
Yea but Johnny the people hav spoken ...the ukranimums an the Latvians polish Lithuaniams romananiums etcetera etcetera    all want out of communism  an dixtators......
It didn't work ...they qued for a car wit a motorbike engine an no seat belts or brakes  for 10 yers ....they ate pigeon an each other if the truth be known ...an if they gave out they went missin ....
Even now them former Soviet country's are givin more money  per gdp an weapons  to fight putin than any of the richer Western States....they know wat putin stands for .....Russia is an open prison ....at least in the west ya can debate pronouns .....in Russia ya can't even vote for opposition cause ther all dead or in prison ......that shit is just fukin wrong .....it has to be stopped ....yes the American is an absolute cnut ...but he's the lesser of 2 evils by a country mile
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« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2023, 03:18:45 pm »
Yea but Johnny the people hav spoken ...the ukranimums an the Latvians polish Lithuaniams romananiums etcetera etcetera    all want out of communism  an dixtators......
It didn't work ...they qued for a car wit a motorbike engine an no seat belts or brakes  for 10 yers ....they ate pigeon an each other if the truth be known ...an if they gave out they went missin ....
Even now them former Soviet country's are givin more money  per gdp an weapons  to fight putin than any of the richer Western States....they know wat putin stands for .....Russia is an open prison ....at least in the west ya can debate pronouns .....in Russia ya can't even vote for opposition cause ther all dead or in prison ......that shit is just fukin wrong .....it has to be stopped ....yes the American is an absolute cnut ...but he's the lesser of 2 evils by a country mile
The idea a citizen of Russia has a right to free speech goes out the window.
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