4,200 arrive in Ireland WITHOUT documentation

[John m]

Occi my old man worked a shovel in Britain .The Rodent is Correct .The Irish are Deluded .Your Dumb as Shit kid now has a Third Level Degree in Worthlessness like Hair and beauty .Lesbian Studies ,Art History and thinks that qualifies them for big wages and wont do menial tasks .I wonder how many people are employed in a job that is relevant to their Degree .

[Octavia1]

Occi my old man worked a shovel in Britain .The Rodent is Correct .The Irish are Deluded .Your Dumb as Shit kid now has a Third Level Degree in Worthlessness like Hair and beauty .Lesbian Studies ,Art History and thinks that qualifies them for big wages and wont do menial tasks .I wonder how many people are employed in a job that is relevant to their Degree .

Naa ..that's not it ...ther was plenty of irish wit degrees worked the bars  an restaurants of Newyork an London....
Yous orish are the most racist country in the world wen it comes to self race hatred ....
 Most of Yuos hav a massive  inferiority complex ....
Yung irish are  still bleedin amazin an workin as entrepreneurs all over the planet an breakin ther holes ....

[watty]

Some went abroad and did well for themselves.  But plenty drank themselves to death in London and America.  Maybe the question is why 'some' and why they had to go abroad?

Maybe, as RC hints at, young folk nowadays don't finish their education until their mid-20's and, with so many living at home, they don't develop any urgency for self-responsibility?  A few decades ago, there was a good chance you were married with a kid, a mortgage & a job for life by the time you were 25 y.o.  Nowadays, you're probably starting your first job at 25 as a non-paid intern with some company that won't offer you a job for life.  Your girlfriend, if you have one, is probably in Asia doing a lap of the world to 'discover herself'.  If someone mentioned kids or a house to the 25 y.o., they'd probably laugh in your face at the absurdity of the notion.

Most of the foreigners coming here are just us from 30 or 40 years ago - economic migrants.  They're here to make money so of course they'll work any job to make money.

[John m]

OCCi I normally give you the benefit of the doubt based on mutual insanity but wake the fuck up .Irish went to the States became Politicians because we were use to dealing with the Brits .Irish thick ignorant bogtrotters joined the Police extorted protection money from the Italian Mafia, Garda Gilhooley retired as Police Commissioner with a pension and a bank account Italian Mafioso went to Jail .

Irish builders Look at the Bollox they made of the place ,Mica ,Fire hazards ,building on flood plains defective blocks .The best Buildings in the Country were built when the Brits ran the show and paddy ran the shovel .

Look at the Government bloke sent swill to Africa as best beef got caught then the Government paid him the Price of Prime beef for the swill because they Liked Larry Goodman and guarenteed his exports .

Then you have Anglo and other banks where bond holders were  made Whole but Tommy and Betty lost their gaff .There will be children sleeping in garden sheds or tents because of what Irish men have done to other Irishmen .A group of Sodomites more interested in telling children its all right to ram your cock up your mates hole or fist fuck  your friend as long as you love them and they say its OK and fly flags all over the city .

The problem with Ireland is we are the most divided Society on earth .Look at the GAA .Parish first then County but never Country .Did you ever wonder why Governments have put so much money into the GAA .Its because it is a Great source of Disunity .Look back at the Troubles did the GAA really get involved or take sides apart from banning British Soldiers from Playing .Even Now when they elect a President of the GAA do any of the contestants ever say they want a United Ireland ?

You need to wake the fuck up OCCi if we were any other post Colonial island with a population of 4 million we would possibly be a failed state .The EU was our lifeline .

I even read today as I suggested in another post that Bertie is proposing a FF /SF government .I have advised and mean GET A GUN .There is a report in todays indo says we are split right down the middle those who think they have stuff and those who want to have stuff .Its not just this country but unlike other countries we are so divided we will never unite to change anything .

I would love to look at Ireland from inside your head Barry Fitzgerald playing a Priest Leprechaun's sitting on a pot of Gold A bloke carrying a horse on his back while swilling pints of Guinness and some Red Head youngone and youngfella and their mates dancing the siege of Ennis

Did you read any of the Reports from the Ireland France game the one we LOST yes we actually lost but the Jurnos say we were great LOSERS .Thats Ireland for you bury the head .

[Octavia1]

OCCi I normally give you the benefit of the doubt based on mutual insanity but wake the fuck up .Irish went to the States became Politicians because we were use to dealing with the Brits .Irish thick ignorant bogtrotters joined the Police extorted protection money from the Italian Mafia, Garda Gilhooley retired as Police Commissioner with a pension and a bank account Italian Mafioso went to Jail .

Irish builders Look at the Bollox they made of the place ,Mica ,Fire hazards ,building on flood plains defective blocks .The best Buildings in the Country were built when the Brits ran the show and paddy ran the shovel .

Look at the Government bloke sent swill to Africa as best beef got caught then the Government paid him the Price of Prime beef for the swill because they Liked Larry Goodman and guarenteed his exports .

Then you have Anglo and other banks where bond holders were  made Whole but Tommy and Betty lost their gaff .There will be children sleeping in garden sheds or tents because of what Irish men have done to other Irishmen .A group of Sodomites more interested in telling children its all right to ram your cock up your mates hole or fist fuck  your friend as long as you love them and they say its OK and fly flags all over the city .

The problem with Ireland is we are the most divided Society on earth .Look at the GAA .Parish first then County but never Country .Did you ever wonder why Governments have put so much money into the GAA .Its because it is a Great source of Disunity .Look back at the Troubles did the GAA really get involved or take sides apart from banning British Soldiers from Playing .Even Now when they elect a President of the GAA do any of the contestants ever say they want a United Ireland ?

You need to wake the fuck up OCCi if we were any other post Colonial island with a population of 4 million we would possibly be a failed state .The EU was our lifeline .

I even read today as I suggested in another post that Bertie is proposing a FF /SF government .I have advised and mean GET A GUN .There is a report in todays indo says we are split right down the middle those who think they have stuff and those who want to have stuff .Its not just this country but unlike other countries we are so divided we will never unite to change anything .

I would love to look at Ireland from inside your head Barry Fitzgerald playing a Priest Leprechaun's sitting on a pot of Gold A bloke carrying a horse on his back while swilling pints of Guinness and some Red Head youngone and youngfella and their mates dancing the siege of Ennis

Did you read any of the Reports from the Ireland France game the one we LOST yes we actually lost but the Jurnos say we were great LOSERS .Thats Ireland for you bury the head .

I'm not irish Johnny  ...I " identify " as a celt as yu well know 
...cause if I called meself irish ...ide be fukin scarlet :: ......plus i have proven dna .....as I said ....yis have an inferiority complex...all yu wrote above is an irish ting ....an inferiority complex....ya ignore all the positives an highlight the negatives ....thats why wer bean raped by foreign business called the eec an the American fakebooks an goldman sachs vulture cunts ....so much so that yis think that by joinin the eec   wud be great ....but it's  not .....its bean a fukin catastrophe....in a few short decades  after gettin rid of the inglish absolute cnuts
after 800 yers .....yis fukin gave it away again  for fuk sake  for free ... .yos can't even fish in yur own waters for the love of jehova......imagine that ....the most westerly European country surrounded by the Atlantic ocean ....An yur only bleedin allowed catch 1 % of wat the bleedin spanish an the rest of the "European " cunts can
An wat did yous silly cnuts get in return?
The fukin m50 that yis pay a toll on ....a load o fukin Romanian gypsies on o connoll St....an yur kids an grandkids livin in sheomras in yur back garden ....


Yous irish 

[John m]

There you go with your Toura loura loura version of Ireland .Stand on O Connell Bridge More money being made selling Drugs on Aston Quay that from taxi fares .Homeless Junkies sleeping on the boardwalk .OCCi there is a World wide shortage of Credit so nobody is going to pony up to build Gaffs to rent .Homeless people are a Factor of Life .I thought that Rashers Tierney living in the basement of Mrs Feeneys Tenement block in Buckingham Street in Strumpet City was a thing of the Past .Or rashers playing the Penny Whistle to try get the price of a dinner .All thats changed is the Clothing worn by the Poor Cunts .We sold out soles to the EEC and Atlantic Philanthropy.This Country was Murdered by Tony Gregory when he put a price on his vote to get him reelected and not in the Countries best Interest .Michael Lowry is now Taoiseach and Healy Wray is Minister for Stuff .They hold the balance of Power .

[Cool Boola]

A lot of different views going on here but what are the facts and not just the opinions. I think that the Irish went to America ,Brit land ,Canada and were sent to the Aus ,as desperate people who would do most corrupt things to survive in countries where the Irish Catholic Immigrants were hated.They survived through corruption and hard work. The U.S and others are big Countries and could absorb and needed bodies at the time. On the other hand Ireland is a small Country that cannot absorb the policy of taking in every Tom Dick and Harry and bussing them to Holliday Hotels with benefits forever? The young Irish privileged have said to me  in the Taxi ,that they are cleaning offices at night in the Aus but nobody knows that back in snobby Ireland. There are a lot of angles to it?

[Octavia1]

A lot of different views going on here but what are the facts and not just the opinions. I think that the Irish went to America ,Brit land ,Canada and were sent to the Aus ,as desperate people who would do most corrupt things to survive in countries where the Irish Catholic Immigrants were hated.They survived through corruption and hard work. The U.S and others are big Countries and could absorb and needed bodies at the time. On the other hand Ireland is a small Country that cannot absorb the policy of taking in every Tom Dick and Harry and bussing them to Holliday Hotels with benefits forever? The young Irish privileged have said to me  in the Taxi ,that they are cleaning offices at night in the Aus but nobody knows that back in snobby Ireland. There are a lot of angles to it?

Good point coola ......

[John m]

A lot of different views going on here but what are the facts and not just the opinions. I think that the Irish went to America ,Brit land ,Canada and were sent to the Aus ,as desperate people who would do most corrupt things to survive in countries where the Irish Catholic Immigrants were hated.They survived through corruption and hard work. The U.S and others are big Countries and could absorb and needed bodies at the time. On the other hand Ireland is a small Country that cannot absorb the policy of taking in every Tom Dick and Harry and bussing them to Holliday Hotels with benefits forever? The young Irish privileged have said to me  in the Taxi ,that they are cleaning offices at night in the Aus but nobody knows that back in snobby Ireland. There are a lot of angles to it?

Imigrants do not get Dole .And we can accommodate more people ..The population of Ireland before the Great Famine of the mid-19th century is estimated to have been around 8 million people. This figure is based on a number of sources, including census data, parish records, and other historical documents. The population of Ireland had been steadily increasing throughout the 18th and early 19th centuries, largely due to improvements in agriculture and a decrease in mortality rates. However, the Great Famine, which began in 1845 and lasted for several years, had a devastating impact on the population, with an estimated 1 million people dying from starvation and disease, and many more emigrating from the country. By the mid-19th century, the population of Ireland had declined significantly, and it took many years for it to recover.

[Rat Catcher]

yu keep sayin the same owld bilge  that the irish won't do " menial " work  because ther lazy .... ....its propaganda that fianna gowl has bean spouting for yers ....and it's a lie
Before the immigrants came....who do yu tink did all the " menial " work  here ?
The irish did it ....the bins wer collected an the hotels beds wer changed an the cafes had staff ....
Why did yung irish do "menial " tasks  all over the planet ?  ...why did the irish  do the back breaking work  building the canals and railways   and building in England?  ...why did they build the skyscrapers in Newyork?  ....Irish workers wer respected and indeed even preferred in some cases  over any others because they wer renound for hard work ....
You as an accountant/ econmist are not stating the fact that its economics .... I resent ya saying the irish are  lazy which is wat yu are inferrin constantly ....even tho I'm not irish I'm a celt 
If  yu analyse it  honestly   an more deeply an forget yur own reasons for talkin inaccuracies  yull come to the truth  ..
Thers  very complex reasons now why young irish are now leaving ireland in ther droves ...we are experiencing the" brain drain " again that we've seen that was a phenomenon of times in ireland back wen we wer in  deep recession or considered a third world country ....
Now we are told by Leo an his cohorts that wer booming and the second richest country in the world and our youth again are leaving ......WHY is that ?
If yu say ther lazy again then for me yuv completely lost all credibility

Octy, I know you have claimed to have poor comprehension skills but that's no excuse for pure delusion. I haven't once said that the Irish are lazy and, in fact, I haven't identified any particular race, Irish or otherwise. What I have said is that "Irish educated" kids don't want menial jobs. A significant proportion of Irish educated kids are (second generation) immigrants these days. In fact, arguably it's the immigrants' kids who get the best education as resources are heavily biased towards Educate Together, without whom the immigrants' kids would have to go to white schools and all the kids would get... well... educated together. What I'm saying is actually very simple and I'd respectfully suggest well within your comprehension capabilities. Folk don't go to university to learn how to drive or empty bins or clean gaffs, etc, etc... It doesn't matter how much you'd offer them to perform such tasks it's not what they want to do so as long as there's plenty of jobs that fit what they want to do they ain't gonna do what they don't want to do or what they feel over-qualified to do.

Further contrary to your implied lack of comprehension I have explained the economic situation to you... again in sufficiently simple terms. The economy is at full employment. What that means is that anyone who wants a job has one i.e. there's nobody waiting for wage increases to pursue menial occupations.

[Bob Shillin]

Most kids in my car either have degrees, or are on the way to getting one. If they want work while studying its bar, restaurant, or Spar shop work that they will opt for, easy in, easy out. Too many hoops to jump through for taxiing, except for the few who do the PSV test, and rent.

[Octavia1]

A lot of different views going on here but what are the facts and not just the opinions. I think that the Irish went to America ,Brit land ,Canada and were sent to the Aus ,as desperate people who would do most corrupt things to survive in countries where the Irish Catholic Immigrants were hated.They survived through corruption and hard work. The U.S and others are big Countries and could absorb and needed bodies at the time. On the other hand Ireland is a small Country that cannot absorb the policy of taking in every Tom Dick and Harry and bussing them to Holliday Hotels with benefits forever? The young Irish privileged have said to me  in the Taxi ,that they are cleaning offices at night in the Aus but nobody knows that back in snobby Ireland. There are a lot of angles to it?

Imigrants do not get Dole .And we can accommodate more people ..The population of Ireland before the Great Famine of the mid-19th century is estimated to have been around 8 million people. This figure is based on a number of sources, including census data, parish records, and other historical documents. The population of Ireland had been steadily increasing throughout the 18th and early 19th centuries, largely due to improvements in agriculture and a decrease in mortality rates. However, the Great Famine, which began in 1845 and lasted for several years, had a devastating impact on the population, with an estimated 1 million people dying from starvation and disease, and many more emigrating from the country. By the mid-19th century, the population of Ireland had declined significantly, and it took many years for it to recover.

Accommodate them how ?
Ther putting them in hotels an tents in army barracks an government buildings ....now they are telling them they are homeless wen they get off a plane or the back of a lorry ...
Allegedly there are 11,000 homeles ....that is government figures which we can be absolutely sure of is horse shit ....how can you count the homeless figures when they don't hav a bleedin home an fuked ther passport over the side of the ferry on ther way over ?
This open door policy is causing  unsustaiable pressure on our resources education , HSE  and housing .....
It's bleedin madness ...
Ther was allegedly 8 million in this country living in the mountains in the west of Ireland  living like sheep in desperate   poverty  living off potatoes ...
That worked out well didn't it ....thers no comparison to today ...
Is it OK now that we've got to the stage that encampments of immigrants are already forming ? Is that what we want ?
Wer going now from dozens of them in one apartment in bunk beds to encampments....
 
Fuking madness

[Rat Catcher]

I'm not irish Johnny  ...I " identify " as a celt as yu well know 
...cause if I called meself irish ...ide be fukin scarlet :: ......plus i have proven dna .....as I said ....yis have an inferiority complex...all yu wrote above is an irish ting ....an inferiority complex....ya ignore all the positives an highlight the negatives ....thats why wer bean raped by foreign business called the eec an the American fakebooks an goldman sachs vulture cunts ....so much so that yis think that by joinin the eec   wud be great ....but it's  not .....its bean a fukin catastrophe....in a few short decades  after gettin rid of the inglish absolute cnuts
after 800 yers .....yis fukin gave it away again  for fuk sake  for free ... .yos can't even fish in yur own waters for the love of jehova......imagine that ....the most westerly European country surrounded by the Atlantic ocean ....An yur only bleedin allowed catch 1 % of wat the bleedin spanish an the rest of the "European " cunts can
An wat did yous silly cnuts get in return?
The fukin m50 that yis pay a toll on ....a load o fukin Romanian gypsies on o connoll St....an yur kids an grandkids livin in sheomras in yur back garden ....


Yous irish 

To be fair, it was the Celts that welcomed the Norsemen to your shores... in fact sharing their wives with them. Hence it was your ancestors who rejected the concept of land ownership and manmade borders.

I'm not sure how much of the short period of Independence within the 26 counties you remember or falls within your comprehension abilities. However, from an economic and criminal law perspective it was a horrendous period. We were always well aware of the brown envelope culture that remains central to Irish culture but we didn't say too much about it. We were always aware of fallen girls disappearing from communities, sometimes returning after the sale or murder of their young but we never spoke about it. We were always aware of child rapists being harboured by the RCC with the support of the State but we never spoke about it. Walking through your beloved O'Connell Street and it's immediate environs required wading knee deep in strung out Heroin addicts yet we always said Sinn Fein and the Monk were anti-drugs, a few Romanian tappers is a vast improvement but (as per a recent RTE television documentary) the main trade on O'Connell Street these days is the sale of illicit narcotics under the supervision of uniformed Gardai. Through such corruption we facilitated organised crime on a scale never before experienced in any civilised state and, in fact, the Kinahan OCG is by far the largest, best financed multi-national entity founded within the State. The fact is the Irish are a nation of bullshitters who bullshit themselves best of all. The yanks view of Paddies as pleasant little chancers isn't far from what we'd like to be the truth i.e. accepting that we're far better suited to circumventing regulation than devising, implementing and enforcing the same.... unfortunately the reality of our ineptness runs far deeper than that. The State would be in an awful state altogether if we had continued trying to run our own affairs and that runs far deeper than the relatively pleasant brown envelope culture.

Do you think we should repatriate our Gypsies who roam the countryside of the UK, Australia, New Zealand, etc causing mayhem as they scam, seriously injure and murder elerly and infirm victims... or should we leave well enough alone and try to convince their victims that they are but a minority?

[Octavia1]

yu keep sayin the same owld bilge  that the irish won't do " menial " work  because ther lazy .... ....its propaganda that fianna gowl has bean spouting for yers ....and it's a lie
Before the immigrants came....who do yu tink did all the " menial " work  here ?
The irish did it ....the bins wer collected an the hotels beds wer changed an the cafes had staff ....
Why did yung irish do "menial " tasks  all over the planet ?  ...why did the irish  do the back breaking work  building the canals and railways   and building in England?  ...why did they build the skyscrapers in Newyork?  ....Irish workers wer respected and indeed even preferred in some cases  over any others because they wer renound for hard work ....
You as an accountant/ econmist are not stating the fact that its economics .... I resent ya saying the irish are  lazy which is wat yu are inferrin constantly ....even tho I'm not irish I'm a celt 
If  yu analyse it  honestly   an more deeply an forget yur own reasons for talkin inaccuracies  yull come to the truth  ..
Thers  very complex reasons now why young irish are now leaving ireland in ther droves ...we are experiencing the" brain drain " again that we've seen that was a phenomenon of times in ireland back wen we wer in  deep recession or considered a third world country ....
Now we are told by Leo an his cohorts that wer booming and the second richest country in the world and our youth again are leaving ......WHY is that ?
If yu say ther lazy again then for me yuv completely lost all credibility

Octy, I know you have claimed to have poor comprehension skills but that's no excuse for pure delusion. I haven't once said that the Irish are lazy and, in fact, I haven't identified any particular race, Irish or otherwise. What I have said is that "Irish educated" kids don't want menial jobs. A significant proportion of Irish educated kids are (second generation) immigrants these days. In fact, arguably it's the immigrants' kids who get the best education as resources are heavily biased towards Educate Together, without whom the immigrants' kids would have to go to white schools and all the kids would get... well... educated together. What I'm saying is actually very simple and I'd respectfully suggest well within your comprehension capabilities. Folk don't go to university to learn how to drive or empty bins or clean gaffs, etc, etc... It doesn't matter how much you'd offer them to perform such tasks it's not what they want to do so as long as there's plenty of jobs that fit what they want to do they ain't gonna do what they don't want to do or what they feel over-qualified to do.

Further contrary to your implied lack of comprehension I have explained the economic situation to you... again in sufficiently simple terms. The economy is at full employment. What that means is that anyone who wants a job has one i.e. there's nobody waiting for wage increases to pursue menial occupations.

So wat yur sayin is ...is that yung irish won't do the tasks because they consider it beneath them cause they all have degrees ?
So ther spoilt brats ?
I'm not buying that for a minute ....
Ther not doin them because thers no future in the wages ....they can't ever own ther own home and will be dwellin with ther ma untill she an the owl fella snuff it .....
Meanwhile the immigrants who are 10 to a room
Who are delighted to shovel shit for buttons and escape the the taliban are over the fukin moon
Wit bean put on the housing list an gettin the dole
If they want an won't get ther hands chopped off by the taliban .....
But wat is that ? It's exploitation an policy of the eec an fianna gowl to get slave labour....
It's exploitation of desperate people who won't complain or join a union so that the eec can
Compete wit kips like China and India an big corporations , billionaire individuals and rich share holders and property owners can get more fukin money in the bank .....
Meanwhile in ireland who pays for all this exploitation fraudulently masked as  charity ?
The bleedin tax payers....who pays for the bank bailouts ?
Our national debt is ever increasing ...who pays  the debt wen the European Parliament is eatin lobster in Brussels an flying around in private jets?
Our kids are worse off now than they ever where ...and many of them will end up homeless in future decades to come ....
You ain't seen nuttin yet 

[John m]

OCCi I am going to educate you on EEC /EU policies .WE pay FUCK ALL for housing Migrants the EU pick up the bill .If Poland or Germany want to Support Ukraine by giving them Wanked out Jets and missiles less controllable than a Badminton Shuttle Cock .They can claim 80% of the replacement but they will replace the Wanked out Mig with a new Tornado Fighter Jet and claim 80% of the costs .The most lucrative Scrappage scheme on earth .