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DAA vermin at it again
« on: August 14, 2023, 08:50:49 pm »
There are more than enough cabs to service a small airport like Dublin, it's about how the DAA do its utmost to retain a captive audience. At the same time not informing the fleet there is business available...at a price.



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DAA, the operator of Dublin Airport, has said it is actively monitoring taxi driver activity after complaints that few taxis are servicing the official rank in the early hours of the morning.
While scores of people are standing at an empty rank, many taxis that are summoned using mobile phone apps may be waiting in a car park. Multiple flights are arriving from holiday destinations after midnight, and, on one occasion recently, there were 60 adults, as well as many children, queuing at the official taxi rank.

“There were no taxis. In the 15 minutes we waited, one arrived,” a source told the Irish Independent.

“However there was 30 taxis available via the FreeNow app at the same time. They were accessible by walking a few hundred metres to the car park, where there was no wait time.”

It appears that the issue relates to the fact that only airport-permitted taxis can access the rank. Online taxi service are permitted by DAA to use the car park – but no-one knows they are available.


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A spokesperson for DAA said: “Some passengers will occasionally face queues for a very short period late at night when there is extremely high demand across Dublin city for taxis, especially if there are major sporting or concert events happening.


“The Dublin Airport team always acts quickly, issuing telephone calls to encourage additional taxis to come to the airport, which helps clear the queues quickly.”

DAA insists that in the past month, nine out of 10 passengers queuing for a taxi at the airport waited 10 minutes or less at the taxi rank, and that the average waiting time was less than five minutes.

“That’s down from less than eight minutes this time last year,” the spokesman said.

“The DAA is working hard to reduce wait times even further for passengers. We have recently issued an additional 300 new permits to bring to over 2,000 the number of permits in operation at Dublin Airport.

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“We are actively monitoring driver activity very closely to ensure all those with permits are operating a minimum number of journeys from the airport each quarter.”


One TD said the taxi service, and its management by DAA, is “not fit for purpose” given reports of infrequent arrivals to the rank in the early hours.

Social Democrats TD Jennifer Whitmore said: “It is not acceptable that young families have to queue for considerable periods in the middle of the night simply to get home.” “This failure doesn’t only impact holidaymakers, as business and incoming tourists also fall foul of the inability by Dublin Airport to ensure a sufficient transport service is available when people need it.”

She said this has “reputational risks” for Ireland.

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Re: DAA vermin at it again
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2023, 09:08:33 pm »

“The Dublin Airport team always acts quickly, issuing telephone calls to encourage additional taxis to come to the airport, which helps clear the queues quickly.”

“The DAA is working hard to reduce wait times even further for passengers. We have recently issued an additional 300 new permits to bring to over 2,000 the number of permits in operation at Dublin Airport.


I wonder how that works.  When the wait time goes over, say, 15 mins, do they make 2,000 phone calls and get enough Keshie's to turn up within 5 mins to clear the backlog?
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Re: DAA vermin at it again
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2023, 09:35:17 pm »
The DAA spent a lot of money building those fancy shiney fences at T2 to stop cars picking up.I rarely bother taking app jobs out there lately.It really isn't worth the hassle as you're driving into a taxi traffic jam in the car park.I'd rather leave empty than give them the €1.50 to exit the car park.

I'm sure there are taxis just driving in without bookings hoping to get a fare inside off the app.I really hate the the place.Everday I'm turning more into Victor Meldrew.Hopefully they'll level the airport and start from scratch....

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Re: DAA vermin at it again
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2023, 10:58:09 am »

I wonder how that works.  When the wait time goes over, say, 15 mins, do they make 2,000 phone calls and get enough Keshie's to turn up within 5 mins to clear the backlog?

DAA don`t ring permit holders. They send text message to drivers informing them taxis are needed.

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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2023, 03:12:02 pm »
I don't doubt you but the article quotes some DAP person saying they "issue telephone calls."
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Re: DAA vermin at it again
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2023, 03:39:38 pm »
I don't doubt you but the article quotes some DAP person saying they "issue telephone calls."
They only text permit holders. Consider how many cabbies only work days, when the greatest demand is the last hour at night. A bit like our drink and restaurant businesses.

Ryanair has an agenda here too regarding late-night flights.

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Ryanair said that 'a sensible solution' was required. Photograph: Nicholas T Ansell/PA
Ian Curran
Fri Aug 4 2023 - 07:32

Michael O’Leary, the chief executive of Ryanair, has said he has some sympathy for residents living near Dublin Airport who have complained to the local authority about noise pollution but that there needs to be “balance”, after Fingal County Council ordered the airport’s operator to reduce the number of night-time flights.

On Friday, the airline issued a statement calling on Minister for Transport Eamon Ryan to take “urgent action” after DAA was handed an enforcement order by the council late last month, ruling that the number of night-time flights amounted to “unauthorised development” in contravention of its planning permission.

The DAA’s chief executive, Kenny Jacobs, said last week the enforcement order would mean the number of night-time flights at the airport would now be lower than before a new second runway opened last year. It is understood that an appeal has not yet been lodged with An Bord Pleanála as the DAA is awaiting more information about the decision from the council. But a spokesman for the semi-State company said on Friday that it is exploring all potential options to ensure that the disruption to passengers is minimal.

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Ryanair said that “a sensible solution” was required and that the local authority “cannot be allowed to dictate national aviation policy or to restrict flights from our national airport”. The airline said that the decision to “slash flights between 11pm and 7am by over 40 per cent with just six weeks’ notice” was “idiotic and must be reversed”.


Speaking on The Pat Kenny Show on Newstalk on Friday morning, Mr O’Leary said the planning decision referred to by the council in its enforcement notice was devised ten years ago when aircraft were much noisier. “We’re investing heavily [in] much quieter aircraft but I have some sympathy for the residents because the new [north] runway is closed between 11am and 7am, all of the flights are taking off on the south runway,” he said.

“And, now, this restriction would limit even the number of flights that could take off on the south runway. It’s bizarre and it requires an intervention from our transport minister but, sadly, he will go missing, as usual.”



Mr O’Leary said that Dublin Airport was built in the 1940s and predates most of the affected houses. “There has to be some balance here. You bought a house beside an airport. The fact is that you do benefit from significant increase in valuation that those houses have enjoyed because they’re in and around Dublin Airport. So, I have some sympathy but it does have to be balanced.”

DAA said last week the decision was disappointing and noted that it was coming “in the middle of the peak summer holiday season”.

Taoiseach Leo Varadkar, meanwhile, played down the prospect of disruptions to flights as a result of Fingal County Council’s order. He said the council was right to enforce the law but suggested flights will not be affected amid an expected appeals process.

Mr Varadkar said: “If planning conditions have been breached, well then Fingal County Council has no choice but to enforce the law so I don’t think you can criticise a council for doing its job.”

“There’s a number of further steps that are yet to play out in this regard... So I don’t anticipate that there will be disruption to people’s flights. If people are worried about their flights in the next few weeks, whether it’s for holidays or visiting relatives or businesses, I don’t think they need to be because this will play out both in An Bord Pleanála and in the courts. But ultimately Fingal County Council has to enforce the existing planning permission and they’re right to do so.”

Separately, the semi-State has reported its busiest ever day amid a sharp rebound in the number of passengers travelling through the hub last month.


Some 120,585 people travelled through the airport on July 30th, the highest number ever recorded in a single day, according to DAA. Cork Airport, meanwhile, reported its busiest July since 2008 as 301,000 passengers travelled through the hub, also up 13 per cent on last July, DAA said.


Ian Curran is a Business reporter with The Irish Times




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Re: DAA vermin at it again
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2023, 07:49:24 pm »
They've never texted me.

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Re: DAA vermin at it again
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2023, 07:53:12 pm »
They've never texted me.
Be EXTRA nice to the taxi marshals. According to some, you can make it to Donanbate and back in the required 20 minutes, allegedly.

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Re: DAA vermin at it again
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2023, 11:36:46 am »
Did it at 3 in the morning……The Marshall asked me later….Who did Donna bate…I put me hand up. Guards were called. ::fuck
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Re: DAA vermin at it again
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2023, 12:10:46 pm »
I don't doubt you but the article quotes some DAP person saying they "issue telephone calls."
Yeah. Probably one of the cabbages.

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Re: DAA vermin at it again
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2023, 12:13:36 pm »
They've never texted me.
You`re only in the door. The cabbage in charge of updating the text log is up to his eyes playing Halo on the puter.

 


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