Rugby World cup 'Top Try scorer' bet.

[Belker]

..... can i ask what was the biggest amount of lolly you saw someone win and lose.

I didn't answer much on biggest losers fer me as a bookie, but I have a few thoughts ....

I can't really think of any one big winner apart from 'Crystal Ball', but there were a good few real Bad days in the bookies.
Dawn Run and Johnjo winning the 1986 Cheltenham Gold cup, on my first week as a senior settler in the main office. 
The weekend in 1982 when ALL the hot-pot favs won on the football coupons. 
Tirol the Cork owned horse winning the 1990 2000 Guineas at Newmarket. 
Tirol the Cork owned horse winning the 1990 Irish 2000 Guineas at the Curragh. 
Imperial call the Cork horse winning the 1996 Cheltenham Gold cup. 

Frankie Dettori doing the Magnificent 7 in 1996.
Mind you we did dodge a huge bullet that day as a regular customer of ours went to Ladbrokes that day to place his usual morning large multiple bets which always included Frankie's mounts, his winnings came to £120,000 and to be fair to Ladbokes they waived their £100,000 payout limit that day.

There were also many big winners on the Lotto when we started betting on it in the late Eighties, those winners were a bug-bear of most bookies because unlike Horse or Football betting winners whom would usually lose their winnings back within a few weeks, Lotto winners bought new TV's or house furniture and continued betting with the same stakes.

[Belker]

very interesting thanks for that. a few questions.....
..... have yever hadta ban a persistant winner. .....

No, I personally never did or even heard of a client getting banned fer persistant winning, but we often restricted odds or stakes to pro punters over the phone.

'Crystal Ball' whom I mentioned earlier broke one young shop managers heart with his constant winning EW accum bets. Our shop managers were all on their own shops profit margin as well as their weekly wage and their annual Bonus was determined on how well their own shop did. 'Crystal Ball' or 'Crystal Bollix' as he was now known of dissappered very abruptly and unexpectantly after cashing in 2 large winning bets one Monday morning.
I have a feeling that the young shop manager had a 'Word' that morning because 'Crystal Bollix' never darkened the doorstep of any of our offices ever again ... but I don't know that fer sure ... and I never asked any questions about it.

[Belker]

very interesting thanks for that. a few questions. ....
....  why are there still physical bookie shops when it can all be done through an app. ....

Two reasons, the lesser one First is fer the bad publicity it would cause on social media to close all the shops.

And Secondly and much more importantly it is cheaper to keep the remaining shops open and trading at break even or even at a small loss than to pay the staff redundancy as most of what staff are left in those shops have over 20 years of entitlements behind them.

[Belker]

very interesting thanks for that. a few questions. .....
......  are there tricks bookies use to entice people inta the shop and keep them in there. i know casinos have fancy lights, dolly birds employed inside, no windows so you lose track of time, gargle/drugs to keep cunts gambling etc. etc.

Not really, each shop does the best it can to remain clean and bright, and to offer 'Specials' just the same as any other company/supermarket in competition does.

I think that about answers all your questions DMG, if'n ya have anymore then just ask,
or anybody else with a serious question, then just ask ?...

There is just One bet that still mystifies me to this day, If'n your still interested DMG then I will write and post it here fer you.

[Dr. Martin Gooter Bling]

fair play ken go ahead.

[Belker]

The One that Got Away;

I reckon I have seen every gambling scam available in my time but in the end I always found out how it was done (usually after) and I understood how it was done, but this one nearly 30 years on even though it was not big money still mystifies me to this day.

Back in 1995 I was a big 'Corrie' fan and watched every Coronation street TV show three times a week. Fer those that remember Derek Wilton whom was Mavis's wife, he had his garden Gnome stolen and there was a big 'Ho-Haa' all about it as to whom had stolen Derek's Gnome. I opened a novelty Book on it (as in started a market on it) called; "Who stole Derek's gnome ?", I showed my work to the senior odds compiler and he wasn't too pleased. But not to be outdone I faxed the story and odds off to the Racing Post and they carried the story and my betting the next day. Obviously it went Viral that day or as Viral as things could go back in 1995.
The senior odds compiler wasn't long changing his mind when he saw the publicity we were getting from my novelty market.

Martin was a mate of mine as such, he was often in the same pubs with me and my work mates back then, a nice lad, not a huge drinker and very seldom gambled, we were friends as in we often chatted in the pub but were never close friends.

Martin arrives in to one of our shops and presents his bet, £263.40 on Norris Cole @ 2/1, on the Who stole Dereks Gnome market.
The strange £263.40 stake obviously meant that it was a syndicate bet, and more strangely there were no follow-on bets, if Martin had the inside information then after having his bet or syndicate bet he would surely have passed on the information to others or had further bets himself, but he didn't.

[Belker]

The market was set up some time in the summer of 1995 with an end date of 31st December 1995 just so as it would not drag on forever with the result possibly never being known and all bets would be voided and stakes returned on Jan 1st 1996. Martin's bet was struck a few days after the market was formed in the Summer of 1995.
6 months later very late in December 1995 on Christmas week just a few days before all bets on the market would be voided, this happened;
Start watching @ 3.55, it's only a few seconds long;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4Glk_S2SuE

My first son was born in Sept 1995 which severely restricted my in-town drinking habits and I never got to meet Martin again to find out where he got the information from on the Norris Cole bet, not that he would have told me anyways. That One bet has been a Bug-Bear of mine fer nearly Thirty years because I don't know how it happened ??, my best guess and it's only a guess is that Martin or someone in his syndicate had a relative in ITV who passed on the information.

But WHY were there no Follow-on bets ??

WHY was the result announced/program aired just a few days before the Finish/Void date ??

[Dr. Martin Gooter Bling]

what about the opposite situation ken.
what if a bookie had inside knowledge that there wasn't a prayer of a gambler winning on a particular event and still took all the bets. has that ever happenned.

[Belker]

what about the opposite situation ken.
what if a bookie had inside knowledge that there wasn't a prayer of a gambler winning on a particular event and still took all the bets. has that ever happenned.

Yes of course, Bookies wil pay anyone with any tie to a big stable that can provide them with PROPER inside information, not much different really to Taxi drivers handing a few quid to a hotel concierge fer a few back-hand jobs.

I have worked the Gambling game fer 35 years and the Taxi game fer 15 years, fer Cuntbaggery the Taxi game is only a mere shadow of the Gambling game.

Read this;
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2002/oct/05/horseracing.gregwood

Or watch this;
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DqIgG3SnfwQo#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:0bbe3e93,vid:qIgG3SnfwQo,st:0

And that's just the Tip of the iceberg !!