Speed Limits

[Rat Catcher]

Good to see some attempt to address the ever-increasing level of deaths caused by driver controlled cars on our roads. However, without enforcement it will amount to nothing. Are lives being deliberately put at risk to facilitate the promotion of safer / environmentally friendlier alternatives to cars e.g. more buses, trains, (electric) scooters / bicycles, walking, etc?

On a related note, given that hybrid cars and (perhaps, to a lesser extent) EVs are relatively extremely inefficient if/when operated at speeds exceeding c.88 kilos/hour would it make sense to reduce the maximum speed limit to 90 kilos/hour on all roads, including motorways?

[John m]

Driving slower takes longer so exhaust spewing Poison for longer .Greens in a few years will be blaming reduced speed limits for the failure to clean up the air .Which gives off the Most heat as Global WARMING seems to be the issue a car driving slowly or a Big fat girl sweating on a bike .Slowing down cars will increase emissions and increase the Dead from Lung Disease numbers  and reduce the ran over and made dead Numbers  .The Equation might end up the same in deaths from vehicles just the method will change .How many Cyclists Killed since they started to promote Cycling or does that not count ?

[Rat Catcher]

At lower revs (Revolutions Per Minute) a traditional combustion engine discharges less emmissions than at higher revs hence lower speeds have no adverse effects in that regard. However, energy consumption per kilo would be greatly reduced by simply lowering the maximum permissible speed to 90 kilos/hour, prticularly where hybrids and EVs (which are becoming increasingly popular) are concerned. Less power consumption = less power generation.

[Octavia1]

At lower revs (Revolutions Per Minute) a traditional combustion engine discharges less emmissions than at higher revs hence lower speeds have no adverse effects in that regard. However, energy consumption per kilo would be greatly reduced by simply lowering the maximum permissible speed to 90 kilos/hour, prticularly where hybrids and EVs (which are becoming increasingly popular) are concerned. Less power consumption = less power generation.

Ther shud be a day in class driving test to explain how to drive for maximum efficiency..........thermodynamics shud be a subject in schools ......
 

[silverbullet]

At lower revs (Revolutions Per Minute) a traditional combustion engine discharges less emmissions than at higher revs hence lower speeds have no adverse effects in that regard. However, energy consumption per kilo would be greatly reduced by simply lowering the maximum permissible speed to 90 kilos/hour, prticularly where hybrids and EVs (which are becoming increasingly popular) are concerned. Less power consumption = less power generation.

Ther shud be a day in class driving test to explain how to drive for maximum efficiency..........thermodynamics shud be a subject in schools ......
 

https://www.torquenews.com/8113/what-it-means-hypermile-toyota-prius#:~:text=Hypermiling%20a%20Toyota%20Prius%20is,to%20gain%20more%20during%20regen.

https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/100-mpg-prius-39355.html

https://www.idrivesafely.com/defensive-driving/trending/top-10-hypermiling-tips

Don't mention it.

[John m]

With Caths having to reach optimum temp to regenerate what effect will snail driving have on them .Will it cost drivers thousands in blocked Caths ?Like I said more dangerous emissions to kill people that survived traffic accidents ?

[John m]

When are the Fucking Bike Nazis going to understand cutting Speed Limits and Emissions from cars is not the Answer to every problem .Leo the Fucktard has over ruled his Minister for Agriculture on Cutting Fertaliser use .Or in Real term A Cow Shits a half a ton of Shit a year and the limit is 1.7 tons per acre .That means you can only keep 3and a third of a cow per acre any more and there is to much Fertaliser Nitrate per acre and it cannot be absorbed into the land so washes off into the Watercourse .Look North to Lough Neigh or read up about California's Salton Sea spewing toxic fumes,to see the damage caused by this polution . The Farmers are a huge lobby Group in this country and have held every government to ransome as they have a huge vote .Makes you wonder if giving the Greens more speed restrictions to reduce emissions is a pay off for not annoying the Farmers .

[silverbullet]

When are the Fucking Bike Nazis going to understand cutting Speed Limits and Emissions from cars is not the Answer to every problem .Leo the Fucktard has over ruled his Minister for Agriculture on Cutting Fertaliser use .Or in Real term A Cow Shits a half a ton of Shit a year and the limit is 1.7 tons per acre .That means you can only keep 3and a third of a cow per acre any more and there is to much Fertaliser Nitrate per acre and it cannot be absorbed into the land so washes off into the Watercourse .Look North to Lough Neigh or read up about California's Salton Sea spewing toxic fumes,to see the damage caused by this polution . The Farmers are a huge lobby Group in this country and have held every government to ransome as they have a huge vote .Makes you wonder if giving the Greens more speed restrictions to reduce emissions is a pay off for not annoying the Farmers .

Fixed yer post:
The Farmers are a huge Jobby Group.

[John m]

Thats exactly the Point .But take a dairy heard they collect up all the Slurry but there is nowhere to spread it LEGALLY .We have more Cows and less farmland the Sums do not add up .Have you seen the Lough Neigh stuff on the BBC .Lake is full of Algi that will destroy the Lake and that is where they draw most of their drinking water from .It has been said that World War Three will be fought over Water .

[watty]

Good to see some attempt to address the ever-increasing level of deaths caused by driver controlled cars on our roads. However, without enforcement it will amount to nothing. Are lives being deliberately put at risk to facilitate the promotion of safer / environmentally friendlier alternatives to cars e.g. more buses, trains, (electric) scooters / bicycles, walking, etc?

On a related note, given that hybrid cars and (perhaps, to a lesser extent) EVs are relatively extremely inefficient if/when operated at speeds exceeding c.88 kilos/hour would it make sense to reduce the maximum speed limit to 90 kilos/hour on all roads, including motorways?

It's very hard to do 30kph in an automatic (EV).  There's no 1st or 2nd gear, just go and go faster on the go-go pedal.  Tried it at the weekend (in Eco mode & highest regen) on a quiet side road and it was practically impossible.  You spend 90% of your time looking at the speedo, instead of the road.  And it's painfully slow - passengers would think you were taking the piss.  Esp if you were to drive down a wide straight road like Ballymun Road.

My car does have cruise control but the slowest setting is 60kph!

And before you slag me off for having a heavy foot, try it yourself!

[markmiwurdz]

Reducing speed limits will not stop bad driving,people who are stupid will keep on doing the same stupid things behind the wheel,it won't make them suddenly think sensibly,the only people who will feel the pinch are people who drive normally and safely around the 45/50 kmh in town that are suddenly getting ticketed for doing what they've been doing since Adam was a boy.

[watty]

And the low speeds encourage pedestrians to take a chance and walk out in front of ya    It means they'll have a good chance of surviving AND suing you!



And who says speed is the only killer?  Woman seriously injured in collision between two cyclists in Dublin

A woman was seriously injured in a collision between two cyclists in Dublin this morning.  The female cyclist was taken from the scene in Glasnevin to the Mater Misericordiae University Hospital in Dublin, where she is being treated for serious injuries.

Drove by a few minutes after it happened.  Always sad when you see someone out for the count and not even moving their legs...

[Rat Catcher]

Reducing speed limits will not stop bad driving,people who are stupid will keep on doing the same stupid things behind the wheel,it won't make them suddenly think sensibly,the only people who will feel the pinch are people who drive normally and safely around the 45/50 kmh in town that are suddenly getting ticketed for doing what they've been doing since Adam was a boy.

Without enforcement it won't... but it's a step in the right direction. Speed is always a factor when death occurs as a result of a RTA.

[markmiwurdz]

Reducing speed limits will not stop bad driving,people who are stupid will keep on doing the same stupid things behind the wheel,it won't make them suddenly think sensibly,the only people who will feel the pinch are people who drive normally and safely around the 45/50 kmh in town that are suddenly getting ticketed for doing what they've been doing since Adam was a boy.

Without enforcement it won't... but it's a step in the right direction. Speed is always a factor when death occurs as a result of a RTA.

I don't think one of those horrible multi young death crashes would have been averted by lower speed limits,country roads impossible to have cops on them all so people just do what they want.It's the people who live in regular enforcement zones who will feel the brunt of this.

[Rat Catcher]

Without the benefit of your medical/forensic training/experience (delete as appropriate) one can only reitterate the BBO i.e. speed is always a factor when death occurs as a result of a RTA.