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Re: Do you give beggars money?
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2023, 06:46:40 am »
Nope ! I never give them a cent !

Beggar 1 prob has more money than me.
Beggar 2 only wants money fer drugs or alcohol.

I do my fair share of charity work with the Street Pastors in Cork.
https://streetpastors.org/locations/cork/

They often require Taxi services fer people in distress by night and I do it voluntarily, with the provisio that they must be 'Fit to travel'.
Anyone wishing to sign up in Dooblin;  rofl
https://streetpastors.org/locations/dublin/

 Its a Scam Ken....all charities are scammers  ::fds
I know, that's why I only donate my time and services to people in distress, nobody makes any coin outta it but the person in distress gets home safely.

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Re: Do you give beggars money?
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2023, 07:46:32 pm »
I was out in Dublin just before last Christmas, at a gig, just after it, we were waiting for a taxi and an Irish female begger asked our group for money, a random woman we met said of course you can love and gave her money (very nice woman i thought from her reaction to the beggar), then my friend did as well, I think I actually did then because you would kind of feel like a prick if you don't and the people you are with gave her money.
Peer pressure.




Was the gig any good?
If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

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Re: Do you give beggars money?
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2023, 10:14:45 pm »
I was out in Dublin just before last Christmas, at a gig, just after it, we were waiting for a taxi and an Irish female begger asked our group for money, a random woman we met said of course you can love and gave her money (very nice woman i thought from her reaction to the beggar), then my friend did as well, I think I actually did then because you would kind of feel like a prick if you don't and the people you are with gave her money.
Peer pressure.




Was the gig any good?


Yeah, not too bad.
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Re: Do you give beggars money?
« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2023, 10:25:06 pm »
Old roma gypsy asked me for money last night, gave her a euro, then she came over again and asked for another one, gave her another one, then she came over around 10 more times but I told her no more. That's the end of me ever giving them anything again.
 

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Re: Do you give beggars money?
« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2023, 01:18:54 am »
Just say no. I don't givento junkies or gypsy

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Re: Do you give beggars money?
« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2023, 11:04:51 pm »
Not since I drove a tapper home to Tallaght one night over 20 years ago and he told me what how much he'd "earned".

Back when I worked the bus, again over 20 years ago, there was an old school taximan (can't remember his name now) who brought homemade sandwiches in with him for the tappers/homeless nearly every day which I found quite admirable but never got round to replicating.
The bus in Swords? Anyway, if there's anything that will encourage a homeless person to get back on their feet, it's being offered sandwich spread on white pan bread.




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Re: Do you give beggars money?
« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2023, 11:13:00 pm »


Love this clip.

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Re: Do you give beggars money?
« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2023, 11:38:53 pm »
There's a chappie that works the first bridge down from Euston. It leads onto Watling Street. I used to throw him the odd euro or 50 cent.  Then one day he got a bit greedy. He asked had I any change which I only had a small bit so I said no. Then he asked would I have a smoke. So I gave him one. Then he asked would I have another one for later. I said, ye know what mate. You're like a toll on this bridge.  Every time I drop at Whitney I've to factor in your toll to get across the bridge. And that can be multiple times a day. You've got everything outta me you're gonna get. Adios  as I drove off. Ever since I just ignore him. Greedy pig.

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Re: Do you give beggars money?
« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2023, 11:43:36 pm »
There's a chappie that works the first bridge down from Euston. It leads onto Watling Street. I used to throw him the odd euro or 50 cent.  Then one day he got a bit greedy. He asked had I any change which I only had a small bit so I said no. Then he asked would I have a smoke. So I gave him one. Then he asked would I have another one for later. I said, ye know what mate. You're like a toll on this bridge.  Every time I drop at Whitney I've to factor in your toll to get across the bridge. And that can be multiple times a day. You've got everything outta me you're gonna get. Adios  as I drove off. Ever since I just ignore him. Greedy pig.
When a bum asks you "Have ya gotta smoke?" Simply reply: "No I don't, I just enjoy it"!! 8)

There's another zombie at Queen St always on the tap at night, so much so I go around by Benburb St. and onto Ellis Quay.

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Re: Do you give beggars money?
« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2023, 11:25:21 am »
As I only carry hundreds...coinage is a burden,I feel Tony McGregors pain!!

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Re: Do you give beggars money?
« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2023, 11:47:43 am »
There's a chappie that works the first bridge down from Euston. It leads onto Watling Street. I used to throw him the odd euro or 50 cent.  Then one day he got a bit greedy. He asked had I any change which I only had a small bit so I said no. Then he asked would I have a smoke. So I gave him one. Then he asked would I have another one for later. I said, ye know what mate. You're like a toll on this bridge.  Every time I drop at Whitney I've to factor in your toll to get across the bridge. And that can be multiple times a day. You've got everything outta me you're gonna get. Adios  as I drove off. Ever since I just ignore him. Greedy pig.
When a bum asks you "Have ya gotta smoke?" Simply reply: "No I don't, I just enjoy it"!! 8)

There's another zombie at Queen St always on the tap at night, so much so I go around by Benburb St. and onto Ellis Quay.


Brian his name is longish hair
Mental health not drugs

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Re: Do you give beggars money?
« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2023, 03:42:39 pm »
There's a chappie that works the first bridge down from Euston. It leads onto Watling Street. I used to throw him the odd euro or 50 cent.  Then one day he got a bit greedy. He asked had I any change which I only had a small bit so I said no. Then he asked would I have a smoke. So I gave him one. Then he asked would I have another one for later. I said, ye know what mate. You're like a toll on this bridge.  Every time I drop at Whitney I've to factor in your toll to get across the bridge. And that can be multiple times a day. You've got everything outta me you're gonna get. Adios  as I drove off. Ever since I just ignore him. Greedy pig.
When a bum asks you "Have ya gotta smoke?" Simply reply: "No I don't, I just enjoy it"!! 8)

There's another zombie at Queen St always on the tap at night, so much so I go around by Benburb St. and onto Ellis Quay.


Brian his name is longish hair
Mental health not drugs
The hostel is around the corner, or across by Watling St.

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Re: Do you give beggars money?
« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2023, 03:57:08 pm »
They're fukkin everywhere now,another one at the top of Watling St,another one on High St,another one (rough lookin bird) top of Oliver Bond hill...

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Re: Do you give beggars money?
« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2023, 04:25:57 pm »
Sure when leaving the Olympia last night they're up the lane way beside Brogans(entrance/exit to Circle and Upr Circle) walking around hassling punters...fukin annoying!!

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Re: Do you give beggars money?
« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2023, 07:09:47 pm »
Begging on the Street Winter Crisis
homeless man illustrating begging on the street
Photo: Katarzyna Bialasiewicz Photographee.eu

Winter’s coming and there are more people begging on the street than ever. Sometimes I give money. Sometimes I buy a sandwich and exchange a few words. Sometimes I don’t do anything at all. Except feel depressed.

Comedian Frankie Boyle says people always tell him, don’t give money to people begging on the street, they’ll only spend it on drink and drugs. “Well of course they do. What else are they going to spend it on?”

If you were on the streets, hungry, homeless, desperate, you’d drink to escape the hopelessness, the indignity, the shame you’d feel living in the sixth richest country in the world and falling into the gutter. It’s must be even worse at Christmas with the shop windows filled with lights and families out shopping.

When Jesus told the parable of the Good Samaritan, he knew Jews and Samaritans hated each other and reversed what his followers expected to hear in order to make them think beyond the perceived wisdom of the times. The fable tells of a foreign traveller robbed and stripped of his clothes. He is ignored by a Jewish rabbi who passes, then by the Levite. But a Samaritan takes the man home and cares for him.

Bob Dylan writes in his song I Am a Lonesome Hobo:

I am a lonesome hobo
Without family or friends
Where another man’s life might begin
That’s exactly where mine ends
I have tried my hand at bribery
Blackmail and deceit
And I’ve served time for everything
‘Cept begging on the street

Dylan reminds me of Jesus: Jewish, intense, provocative. Stand them side by side, and they would have had a far more similar appearance than the Renaissance paintings of Jesus with pale skin and faraway blue eyes.

Is begging on the street as low as one can fall, the ultimate humiliation? Dylan must have given it a lot of thought. I imagine that’s how he saw himself when he set out penniless with a guitar on his back to visit Woody Guthrie, another Lonesome Hobo who had travelled with the dust bowl migrants and played ‘This Land is Your Land’ for pennies and a bowl of soup.

The Buddha was born Siddhartha Gautama, a royal prince. The first time he left the palace, he was struck by four things which would become The Four Noble Truths; the essence of Buddhism. He understood life brings suffering, that suffering is part of living, that suffering can be ended, and that there is a path to Nirvana – the end of suffering. The Buddha cut off his hair and spent forty years begging on the street as he meandered with his message across India. 

Begging on the Street Action
Frankie Boyle’s right. Giving to someone begging on the street is a good thing. Direct action. Important to the giver as much as the receiver. Begging has a sort of honesty about it. Beggars bare their souls, their weaknesses: they remind us how lucky we are and how iniquitous a system where even two wage families may still need food banks and free school meals.

This is the second verse of Dylan’s song:

Well, once I was rather prosperous
There was nothing I did lack
I had fourteen-karat gold in my mouth
And silk upon my back
But I did not trust my brother
I carried him to blame
Which led me to my fatal doom
To wander off in shame

This is the story of a man corrupted by wealth and success who has fallen on hard times. There is no one to help him. He did not trust his brother but blamed him for his lack of position and currency. Now he is doomed and alone.

Dylan wrapped up one of his Theme Time Radio Shows with this. “If you are poor, I hope you get rich, and if you are rich, I hope you get happy.” Then he adds, “I’ll leave you with the words of Benjamin Franklin: ‘He that is of the opinion that money will do anything may be suspected of doing everything for money.’”


 


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