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Pizza delivery drivers' decision has implications for gig economy, says Supreme Court

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The Supreme Court has found that delivery drivers for a pizza restaurant should be treated as employees and not contractors in a decision which has important implications for workers in the gig economy.

The case concerned delivery drivers engaged under contracts in 2010/2011 by Karshan (Midlands) Ltd, trading as Domino's Pizza.  The drivers argued there were employees for tax purposes and Karshan said they were independent contractors under "contracts for service".  Karshan had appealed a 2018 decision of a Tax Appeals Commissioner that the delivery drivers should be treated as PAYE workers. The High Court rejected that appeal, but the Court of Appeal (CoA), in a 2-1 majority, overturned that decision.  The Revenue Commissioners sought and were granted a further appeal to the Supreme Court.  In a unanimous decision on Friday, a seven-judge Supreme Court overturned the CoA decision.

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But, and there's always a but...

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In observations accompanying the judgment, Mr Justice Murray said it must be stated that the finding that the drivers were employees did not, and cannot, bind any driver who may wish to contend that, in fact, they were not an employee for this or any other purpose.

The question of whether drivers have continuous service for the purpose of other legislation, and in particular employment rights legislation, cannot be decided here, he said.

The question of costs will be decided by the court if agreement cannot be reached on it between the parties in two weeks.

Mr Justice Murray said if the court has to deal with costs issues, it can include anything that may arise from comments he made in the judgment in relation to the potential injustice to Karshan being disproportionately penalised by one arm of the State for conducting its business in accordance with law as it was found by another government department.

Will Uber & Deliveroo etc now have to start paying taxes for their so-called 'partners'?

Edit:  should also put a halt to Uber letting students driving their mammy's Corolla play pretend taxi driver at the weekends?
« Last Edit: October 20, 2023, 04:02:04 pm by watty »
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Re: Supreme Court rules Dominos drivers are employees, not gig workers
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2023, 05:33:24 pm »
If we become " employees" watty .....an then wer told we have to get stickers .....
An we refuse ...as ya doo ....have they a rite then to sack ya  oops  lol
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Re: Supreme Court rules Dominos drivers are employees, not gig workers
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2023, 05:37:40 pm »
The other ting they cud do is put the commission up to 40% to pay all them tax an prsi an holidays an stuff ....cud get very interesting....but I reckon by the time the courts wud sort all this out .....weel all be either b  , sittin in a home wearing a nappy ....or after  gettin a lift in a autonomous hearse  O:-)
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Re: Supreme Court rules Dominos drivers are employees, not gig workers
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2023, 06:23:33 pm »
We're alright (hopefully).  It should put manners on the apps because if they go too far in telling us what to do, the threat is always there that we could turn around and claim we're employees.  We still have some power.  FN put out 2 x €30 bonuses in Dublin to get us to work during the daytime rain.  In effect, they're begging/bribing us to work.

It's the likes of Uber food and deliveroo that should be worried.  The days of employing people for pennies with no rights is hopefully over.  It could make the businesses uneconomical?

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Re: Supreme Court rules Dominos drivers are employees, not gig workers
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2023, 11:31:08 am »
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In observations accompanying the judgment, Mr Justice Murray said it must be stated that the finding that the drivers were employees did not, and cannot, bind any driver who may wish to contend that, in fact, they were not an employee for this or any other purpose.

The question of whether drivers have continuous service for the purpose of other legislation, and in particular employment rights legislation, cannot be decided here, he said.

Seems a bit wishy washy. Revenue rules are generally somewhat more defined i.e. you're either an employee (by reference to tests of control, etc) or you're not. One can only assume that some drivers fall into one category and others into the other. However, I guess most of us will welcome the option to remain self-(un)employed should similar be applied to the likes of Lynk, Free Now, Bolt, Uber, etc... particularly, but not exclusively, the odd-balls that only spend money because it's "tax deductible".

Similarly, one would question why it would apply to taxation law exclusively. In effect that's merely restricting qualifying expenditure attributable in computing the drivers' tax liability with no compensation in the form of benefits available to regular employees under employment legislation e.g. sick pay, paid holidays, etc...

One can't help wondering if the judiciary are merely prompting Revenue to improve effective taxation of the gig economy, perhaps through introduction of a retention taxation regime.... answering the astute question posed within the op i.e. will Delivery kangaroo etc have to start deducting income tax at source.

« Last Edit: October 23, 2023, 11:33:51 am by Rat Catcher »
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