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« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2023, 02:37:21 pm »

No babies aged 0-3 years have yet been named amongst the dead of Hamas’s October 7th attack. The stories of beheaded babies, it now seems likely, were in fact weapons of mass destruction launched by experienced Israeli and American media warriors to enflame emotions and soften the ground for genocide. It’s not the first time this has happened. It is time we learnt the lessons of history.

Within hours of the October 7 attack Israeli Defence Force spokesmen reported that babies had been beheaded by Hamas fighters. The story was obligingly flashed across CNN, the Guardian, BBC, countless front pages, and shot out via a billion complicit or gullible Facebook and X posts. Within another few hours the story had mutated into “40 babies beheaded” and flew out of the mouths of influencers on countless news channels.

“Stranger Things” star Noah Schnapp was one who fuelled the fire, sending his 25 million Instagram followers this post: “40 babies were beheaded and burned alive in front of their parents by Hamas.”

President Biden said he had seen images of them, and said “I have been doing this for a long time, I never thought I would see – have confirmed pictures of – terrorists beheading children.” The White House quickly retracted his claim. The Hill warned that Biden is a “serial fabulist” – but the old boy had done his job: genocide is now easier for Israel to commit. 3000 Palestinian children now lie dead, along with a number of Israeli children, including at least one four-year-old killed in the Hamas attack. All civilian lives, especially children's, should be inviolate. No exceptions.
 
 
Parts of the media are now rowing back their claims. CNN anchor Sara Sidner said: "Yesterday the Israeli Prime Minister's office said that it had confirmed Hamas beheaded babies & children while we were live on the air. The Israeli government now says today it CANNOT confirm babies were beheaded. I needed to be more careful with my words and I am sorry."

Unlike the real victims of October 7 and unlike the hundreds of Palestinian babies who have been slaughtered by the Israelis, whose shattered bodies we’ve actually seen, these 40 fictive infants survived the attack and will be boxed up, ready for repackaging next time a monstrous lie is needed to justify war crimes.

Haaretz, Israel’s leading newspaper, which has been filled with war cries since the attack, has published details of over 930 named dead from the October 7 attack. As of the time of writing, not one baby aged 0 to three years old has been publicly identified. Not one. Let alone a beheaded one. Let alone 40.

Does that matter? Wasn’t what Hamas did sufficiently bad, evil, enough of a war crime to justify the revenge we are witnessing? Apparently not. But don’t ask me; ask Biden, Netanyahu, Ursula Von Der Leyen, Rishi Sunak and the thousands of western journalists who spat it into the faces of people trying to stand up for now-dead and soon-to-die Palestinians. When I raised my voice in defence of innocent Palestinian civilians, I was shouted down by friends, incandescent with rage over dead babies. Now when I raise my voice after hundreds of babies have been slaughtered in Gaza, I’m greeted with indifference by many of those same people. But the tide is turning … the arc of history must surely turn towards justice. Justice is the seed; peace is the flower.

Here is why this particular lie was so important to tell: When your business is genocide you want your victims to appear as evil as possible.

I’m Irish: we know what it is to be vilified, treated and described as animals, forbidden fundamental human rights, bombed and burnt into submission, to be driven off our land and to be starved into death or exodus. Dehumanising us was part of the project.

Back to dead babies as tools of propaganda.

The Bible tells of the Jewish King Herod slaughtering new-borns as he tried to eliminate the little Babe Jesus. Mary and Joseph fled into Egypt (where the Israelis would like to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians of Gaza). The rest is history. Or not.

The bible story mutated over centuries into the famous Blood Libel that blamed the Jews not only for the death of Jesus but said Jews sacrificed, even ate, Christian babies in secret rituals. It was a Convenient Untruth used to justify mass murder and persecution of Jewish populations throughout Europe from the Middle Ages to the 20th Century.

But times change and the dead babies are assigned new duties.

Who remembers the dozens of babies thrown out of incubators by Iraqis soldiers at the hospital in Kuwait City in 1990? Millions of people across the world, me included, sat riveted by the testimony of a tearful young Kuwaiti woman called Nayirah who gave evidence at a crucial Congressional hearing that helped build support in the American mind for a holy war against Satan Saddam Hussein. Nayirah was working as a volunteer in a hospital when Iraqi soldiers burst in, removing the babies from incubators and tossing the wee mites onto the floor to die. Immediately following her testimony, which created a global media storm at the time, Chairman Rep John Porter, said: “We have never heard in all this time, in all circumstances, a record of inhumanity, brutality, and sadism as the ones the witnesses have given us today.”

Powerful. Moving. But a pack of utter lies.

The knowing and cynical Rep. Porter had asked that only Nayirah’s first name be used to protect her family. Good reason for that: Nayirah was the daughter of the Kuwaiti Ambassador to Washington. She was a member of al-Sabah family, the ruling house of Kuwait, had never worked in a hospital, and, as she admitted much later, had never witnessed any babies being thrown out of incubators. Not one. What she had done was sit for days with Hill & Knowlton, the American public relations company used by the Pentagon to build war lust amongst the US population. Not a difficult thing to do. They scripted the story, coached the young princess and set the dead babies to work on gullible minds.

Rep. Porter told listeners that people in the “civilised” world must do everything in their power to remove this “scourge”. Shortly after Nayirah’s testimony A-10 Warthogs, Abraham tanks, cruise missiles and all the same sort of instruments of death now being used on Gazan civilians were unleashed on the Iraqis. Hundreds of thousands were killed or maimed. When challenged over the deaths of thousands of real Iraqi babies in a subsequent US blockade, Secretary of State Madeleine Albright said: “This is a very hard choice but we think the price is worth it.”

The Incubator babies had helped lay the groundwork for such monstrous inhumanity. The beheaded babies of Israel have done their job too - allowing Netanyahu to say the assault on Gaza is a “holy mission”. Fellow Knesset MPs have called for a non-nuclear Hiroshima, a second Nakba, another bombing like that of Dresden - praising the resolution of the British and Americans in committing these acts. “It is time to be cruel,” Cabinet Minister Bezalel Smotrich, who leads the Religious Zionist Party, told the world last week.

The Americans and Israelis have two comparative advantages over any of their adversaries. Unrivalled ability to kill people. And storytelling. Nobody does it better.

So beware of dead babies. They can kill millions

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony

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Re: I bet two babies .I see your two and raise you four more .
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2023, 04:34:47 pm »

No babies aged 0-3 years have yet been named amongst the dead of Hamas’s October 7th attack. The stories of beheaded babies, it now seems likely, were in fact weapons of mass destruction launched by experienced Israeli and American media warriors to enflame emotions and soften the ground for genocide. It’s not the first time this has happened. It is time we learnt the lessons of history.

Within hours of the October 7 attack Israeli Defence Force spokesmen reported that babies had been beheaded by Hamas fighters. The story was obligingly flashed across CNN, the Guardian, BBC, countless front pages, and shot out via a billion complicit or gullible Facebook and X posts. Within another few hours the story had mutated into “40 babies beheaded” and flew out of the mouths of influencers on countless news channels.

“Stranger Things” star Noah Schnapp was one who fuelled the fire, sending his 25 million Instagram followers this post: “40 babies were beheaded and burned alive in front of their parents by Hamas.”

President Biden said he had seen images of them, and said “I have been doing this for a long time, I never thought I would see – have confirmed pictures of – terrorists beheading children.” The White House quickly retracted his claim. The Hill warned that Biden is a “serial fabulist” – but the old boy had done his job: genocide is now easier for Israel to commit. 3000 Palestinian children now lie dead, along with a number of Israeli children, including at least one four-year-old killed in the Hamas attack. All civilian lives, especially children's, should be inviolate. No exceptions.
 
 
Parts of the media are now rowing back their claims. CNN anchor Sara Sidner said: "Yesterday the Israeli Prime Minister's office said that it had confirmed Hamas beheaded babies & children while we were live on the air. The Israeli government now says today it CANNOT confirm babies were beheaded. I needed to be more careful with my words and I am sorry."

Unlike the real victims of October 7 and unlike the hundreds of Palestinian babies who have been slaughtered by the Israelis, whose shattered bodies we’ve actually seen, these 40 fictive infants survived the attack and will be boxed up, ready for repackaging next time a monstrous lie is needed to justify war crimes.

Haaretz, Israel’s leading newspaper, which has been filled with war cries since the attack, has published details of over 930 named dead from the October 7 attack. As of the time of writing, not one baby aged 0 to three years old has been publicly identified. Not one. Let alone a beheaded one. Let alone 40.

Does that matter? Wasn’t what Hamas did sufficiently bad, evil, enough of a war crime to justify the revenge we are witnessing? Apparently not. But don’t ask me; ask Biden, Netanyahu, Ursula Von Der Leyen, Rishi Sunak and the thousands of western journalists who spat it into the faces of people trying to stand up for now-dead and soon-to-die Palestinians. When I raised my voice in defence of innocent Palestinian civilians, I was shouted down by friends, incandescent with rage over dead babies. Now when I raise my voice after hundreds of babies have been slaughtered in Gaza, I’m greeted with indifference by many of those same people. But the tide is turning … the arc of history must surely turn towards justice. Justice is the seed; peace is the flower.

Here is why this particular lie was so important to tell: When your business is genocide you want your victims to appear as evil as possible.

I’m Irish: we know what it is to be vilified, treated and described as animals, forbidden fundamental human rights, bombed and burnt into submission, to be driven off our land and to be starved into death or exodus. Dehumanising us was part of the project.

Back to dead babies as tools of propaganda.

The Bible tells of the Jewish King Herod slaughtering new-borns as he tried to eliminate the little Babe Jesus. Mary and Joseph fled into Egypt (where the Israelis would like to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians of Gaza). The rest is history. Or not.

The bible story mutated over centuries into the famous Blood Libel that blamed the Jews not only for the death of Jesus but said Jews sacrificed, even ate, Christian babies in secret rituals. It was a Convenient Untruth used to justify mass murder and persecution of Jewish populations throughout Europe from the Middle Ages to the 20th Century.

But times change and the dead babies are assigned new duties.

Who remembers the dozens of babies thrown out of incubators by Iraqis soldiers at the hospital in Kuwait City in 1990? Millions of people across the world, me included, sat riveted by the testimony of a tearful young Kuwaiti woman called Nayirah who gave evidence at a crucial Congressional hearing that helped build support in the American mind for a holy war against Satan Saddam Hussein. Nayirah was working as a volunteer in a hospital when Iraqi soldiers burst in, removing the babies from incubators and tossing the wee mites onto the floor to die. Immediately following her testimony, which created a global media storm at the time, Chairman Rep John Porter, said: “We have never heard in all this time, in all circumstances, a record of inhumanity, brutality, and sadism as the ones the witnesses have given us today.”

Powerful. Moving. But a pack of utter lies.

The knowing and cynical Rep. Porter had asked that only Nayirah’s first name be used to protect her family. Good reason for that: Nayirah was the daughter of the Kuwaiti Ambassador to Washington. She was a member of al-Sabah family, the ruling house of Kuwait, had never worked in a hospital, and, as she admitted much later, had never witnessed any babies being thrown out of incubators. Not one. What she had done was sit for days with Hill & Knowlton, the American public relations company used by the Pentagon to build war lust amongst the US population. Not a difficult thing to do. They scripted the story, coached the young princess and set the dead babies to work on gullible minds.

Rep. Porter told listeners that people in the “civilised” world must do everything in their power to remove this “scourge”. Shortly after Nayirah’s testimony A-10 Warthogs, Abraham tanks, cruise missiles and all the same sort of instruments of death now being used on Gazan civilians were unleashed on the Iraqis. Hundreds of thousands were killed or maimed. When challenged over the deaths of thousands of real Iraqi babies in a subsequent US blockade, Secretary of State Madeleine Albright said: “This is a very hard choice but we think the price is worth it.”

The Incubator babies had helped lay the groundwork for such monstrous inhumanity. The beheaded babies of Israel have done their job too - allowing Netanyahu to say the assault on Gaza is a “holy mission”. Fellow Knesset MPs have called for a non-nuclear Hiroshima, a second Nakba, another bombing like that of Dresden - praising the resolution of the British and Americans in committing these acts. “It is time to be cruel,” Cabinet Minister Bezalel Smotrich, who leads the Religious Zionist Party, told the world last week.

The Americans and Israelis have two comparative advantages over any of their adversaries. Unrivalled ability to kill people. And storytelling. Nobody does it better.

So beware of dead babies. They can kill millions
Assuming that this is not your assessment John, can you please quote/link sources.
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« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2023, 04:43:37 pm »
Shush.  It's the only time we can get him to use paragraphs  :o
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« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2023, 05:07:19 pm »
Shush.  It's the only time we can get him to use paragraphs  :o
::cheers. This is important though, so many people telling me that babies were decapitated.
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Re: I bet two babies .I see your two and raise you four more .
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2023, 06:04:33 pm »

No babies aged 0-3 years have yet been named amongst the dead of Hamas’s October 7th attack. The stories of beheaded babies, it now seems likely, were in fact weapons of mass destruction launched by experienced Israeli and American media warriors to enflame emotions and soften the ground for genocide. It’s not the first time this has happened. It is time we learnt the lessons of history.

Within hours of the October 7 attack Israeli Defence Force spokesmen reported that babies had been beheaded by Hamas fighters. The story was obligingly flashed across CNN, the Guardian, BBC, countless front pages, and shot out via a billion complicit or gullible Facebook and X posts. Within another few hours the story had mutated into “40 babies beheaded” and flew out of the mouths of influencers on countless news channels.

“Stranger Things” star Noah Schnapp was one who fuelled the fire, sending his 25 million Instagram followers this post: “40 babies were beheaded and burned alive in front of their parents by Hamas.”

President Biden said he had seen images of them, and said “I have been doing this for a long time, I never thought I would see – have confirmed pictures of – terrorists beheading children.” The White House quickly retracted his claim. The Hill warned that Biden is a “serial fabulist” – but the old boy had done his job: genocide is now easier for Israel to commit. 3000 Palestinian children now lie dead, along with a number of Israeli children, including at least one four-year-old killed in the Hamas attack. All civilian lives, especially children's, should be inviolate. No exceptions.
 
 
Parts of the media are now rowing back their claims. CNN anchor Sara Sidner said: "Yesterday the Israeli Prime Minister's office said that it had confirmed Hamas beheaded babies & children while we were live on the air. The Israeli government now says today it CANNOT confirm babies were beheaded. I needed to be more careful with my words and I am sorry."

Unlike the real victims of October 7 and unlike the hundreds of Palestinian babies who have been slaughtered by the Israelis, whose shattered bodies we’ve actually seen, these 40 fictive infants survived the attack and will be boxed up, ready for repackaging next time a monstrous lie is needed to justify war crimes.

Haaretz, Israel’s leading newspaper, which has been filled with war cries since the attack, has published details of over 930 named dead from the October 7 attack. As of the time of writing, not one baby aged 0 to three years old has been publicly identified. Not one. Let alone a beheaded one. Let alone 40.

Does that matter? Wasn’t what Hamas did sufficiently bad, evil, enough of a war crime to justify the revenge we are witnessing? Apparently not. But don’t ask me; ask Biden, Netanyahu, Ursula Von Der Leyen, Rishi Sunak and the thousands of western journalists who spat it into the faces of people trying to stand up for now-dead and soon-to-die Palestinians. When I raised my voice in defence of innocent Palestinian civilians, I was shouted down by friends, incandescent with rage over dead babies. Now when I raise my voice after hundreds of babies have been slaughtered in Gaza, I’m greeted with indifference by many of those same people. But the tide is turning … the arc of history must surely turn towards justice. Justice is the seed; peace is the flower.

Here is why this particular lie was so important to tell: When your business is genocide you want your victims to appear as evil as possible.

I’m Irish: we know what it is to be vilified, treated and described as animals, forbidden fundamental human rights, bombed and burnt into submission, to be driven off our land and to be starved into death or exodus. Dehumanising us was part of the project.

Back to dead babies as tools of propaganda.

The Bible tells of the Jewish King Herod slaughtering new-borns as he tried to eliminate the little Babe Jesus. Mary and Joseph fled into Egypt (where the Israelis would like to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians of Gaza). The rest is history. Or not.

The bible story mutated over centuries into the famous Blood Libel that blamed the Jews not only for the death of Jesus but said Jews sacrificed, even ate, Christian babies in secret rituals. It was a Convenient Untruth used to justify mass murder and persecution of Jewish populations throughout Europe from the Middle Ages to the 20th Century.

But times change and the dead babies are assigned new duties.

Who remembers the dozens of babies thrown out of incubators by Iraqis soldiers at the hospital in Kuwait City in 1990? Millions of people across the world, me included, sat riveted by the testimony of a tearful young Kuwaiti woman called Nayirah who gave evidence at a crucial Congressional hearing that helped build support in the American mind for a holy war against Satan Saddam Hussein. Nayirah was working as a volunteer in a hospital when Iraqi soldiers burst in, removing the babies from incubators and tossing the wee mites onto the floor to die. Immediately following her testimony, which created a global media storm at the time, Chairman Rep John Porter, said: “We have never heard in all this time, in all circumstances, a record of inhumanity, brutality, and sadism as the ones the witnesses have given us today.”

Powerful. Moving. But a pack of utter lies.

The knowing and cynical Rep. Porter had asked that only Nayirah’s first name be used to protect her family. Good reason for that: Nayirah was the daughter of the Kuwaiti Ambassador to Washington. She was a member of al-Sabah family, the ruling house of Kuwait, had never worked in a hospital, and, as she admitted much later, had never witnessed any babies being thrown out of incubators. Not one. What she had done was sit for days with Hill & Knowlton, the American public relations company used by the Pentagon to build war lust amongst the US population. Not a difficult thing to do. They scripted the story, coached the young princess and set the dead babies to work on gullible minds.

Rep. Porter told listeners that people in the “civilised” world must do everything in their power to remove this “scourge”. Shortly after Nayirah’s testimony A-10 Warthogs, Abraham tanks, cruise missiles and all the same sort of instruments of death now being used on Gazan civilians were unleashed on the Iraqis. Hundreds of thousands were killed or maimed. When challenged over the deaths of thousands of real Iraqi babies in a subsequent US blockade, Secretary of State Madeleine Albright said: “This is a very hard choice but we think the price is worth it.”

The Incubator babies had helped lay the groundwork for such monstrous inhumanity. The beheaded babies of Israel have done their job too - allowing Netanyahu to say the assault on Gaza is a “holy mission”. Fellow Knesset MPs have called for a non-nuclear Hiroshima, a second Nakba, another bombing like that of Dresden - praising the resolution of the British and Americans in committing these acts. “It is time to be cruel,” Cabinet Minister Bezalel Smotrich, who leads the Religious Zionist Party, told the world last week.

The Americans and Israelis have two comparative advantages over any of their adversaries. Unrivalled ability to kill people. And storytelling. Nobody does it better.

So beware of dead babies. They can kill millions

Where did you copy and paste that drivel from?

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« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2023, 07:31:32 pm »
Shush.  It's the only time we can get him to use paragraphs  :o
::cheers. This is important though, so many people telling me that babies were decapitated.
First casualty of war is the truth.

What`s glaringly missing is no videos of "atrocities committed" have surfaced on social media. I haven`t seen footage of mass burials in Israel. I seen a shot of body bags loaded into what looked like an open pen, piled on top of each other , alledgedly Israeli casualties. If so, the Israelis had scant regard for dignity of their dead. Israel/Zionists need more land/liebensraum and they`re expanding into the Gaza/Warsaw ghetto.
They hunted Nazis/SS after WWII well into the 80s but never hunted the Nazis/SS that were in the USA working for the USA. Wernher von Braun SS used slave labour to build his rockets .
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« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2023, 08:22:36 pm »

No babies aged 0-3 years have yet been named amongst the dead of Hamas’s October 7th attack. The stories of beheaded babies, it now seems likely, were in fact weapons of mass destruction launched by experienced Israeli and American media warriors to enflame emotions and soften the ground for genocide. It’s not the first time this has happened. It is time we learnt the lessons of history.

Within hours of the October 7 attack Israeli Defence Force spokesmen reported that babies had been beheaded by Hamas fighters. The story was obligingly flashed across CNN, the Guardian, BBC, countless front pages, and shot out via a billion complicit or gullible Facebook and X posts. Within another few hours the story had mutated into “40 babies beheaded” and flew out of the mouths of influencers on countless news channels.

“Stranger Things” star Noah Schnapp was one who fuelled the fire, sending his 25 million Instagram followers this post: “40 babies were beheaded and burned alive in front of their parents by Hamas.”

President Biden said he had seen images of them, and said “I have been doing this for a long time, I never thought I would see – have confirmed pictures of – terrorists beheading children.” The White House quickly retracted his claim. The Hill warned that Biden is a “serial fabulist” – but the old boy had done his job: genocide is now easier for Israel to commit. 3000 Palestinian children now lie dead, along with a number of Israeli children, including at least one four-year-old killed in the Hamas attack. All civilian lives, especially children's, should be inviolate. No exceptions.
 
 
Parts of the media are now rowing back their claims. CNN anchor Sara Sidner said: "Yesterday the Israeli Prime Minister's office said that it had confirmed Hamas beheaded babies & children while we were live on the air. The Israeli government now says today it CANNOT confirm babies were beheaded. I needed to be more careful with my words and I am sorry."

Unlike the real victims of October 7 and unlike the hundreds of Palestinian babies who have been slaughtered by the Israelis, whose shattered bodies we’ve actually seen, these 40 fictive infants survived the attack and will be boxed up, ready for repackaging next time a monstrous lie is needed to justify war crimes.

Haaretz, Israel’s leading newspaper, which has been filled with war cries since the attack, has published details of over 930 named dead from the October 7 attack. As of the time of writing, not one baby aged 0 to three years old has been publicly identified. Not one. Let alone a beheaded one. Let alone 40.

Does that matter? Wasn’t what Hamas did sufficiently bad, evil, enough of a war crime to justify the revenge we are witnessing? Apparently not. But don’t ask me; ask Biden, Netanyahu, Ursula Von Der Leyen, Rishi Sunak and the thousands of western journalists who spat it into the faces of people trying to stand up for now-dead and soon-to-die Palestinians. When I raised my voice in defence of innocent Palestinian civilians, I was shouted down by friends, incandescent with rage over dead babies. Now when I raise my voice after hundreds of babies have been slaughtered in Gaza, I’m greeted with indifference by many of those same people. But the tide is turning … the arc of history must surely turn towards justice. Justice is the seed; peace is the flower.

Here is why this particular lie was so important to tell: When your business is genocide you want your victims to appear as evil as possible.

I’m Irish: we know what it is to be vilified, treated and described as animals, forbidden fundamental human rights, bombed and burnt into submission, to be driven off our land and to be starved into death or exodus. Dehumanising us was part of the project.

Back to dead babies as tools of propaganda.

The Bible tells of the Jewish King Herod slaughtering new-borns as he tried to eliminate the little Babe Jesus. Mary and Joseph fled into Egypt (where the Israelis would like to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians of Gaza). The rest is history. Or not.

The bible story mutated over centuries into the famous Blood Libel that blamed the Jews not only for the death of Jesus but said Jews sacrificed, even ate, Christian babies in secret rituals. It was a Convenient Untruth used to justify mass murder and persecution of Jewish populations throughout Europe from the Middle Ages to the 20th Century.

But times change and the dead babies are assigned new duties.

Who remembers the dozens of babies thrown out of incubators by Iraqis soldiers at the hospital in Kuwait City in 1990? Millions of people across the world, me included, sat riveted by the testimony of a tearful young Kuwaiti woman called Nayirah who gave evidence at a crucial Congressional hearing that helped build support in the American mind for a holy war against Satan Saddam Hussein. Nayirah was working as a volunteer in a hospital when Iraqi soldiers burst in, removing the babies from incubators and tossing the wee mites onto the floor to die. Immediately following her testimony, which created a global media storm at the time, Chairman Rep John Porter, said: “We have never heard in all this time, in all circumstances, a record of inhumanity, brutality, and sadism as the ones the witnesses have given us today.”

Powerful. Moving. But a pack of utter lies.

The knowing and cynical Rep. Porter had asked that only Nayirah’s first name be used to protect her family. Good reason for that: Nayirah was the daughter of the Kuwaiti Ambassador to Washington. She was a member of al-Sabah family, the ruling house of Kuwait, had never worked in a hospital, and, as she admitted much later, had never witnessed any babies being thrown out of incubators. Not one. What she had done was sit for days with Hill & Knowlton, the American public relations company used by the Pentagon to build war lust amongst the US population. Not a difficult thing to do. They scripted the story, coached the young princess and set the dead babies to work on gullible minds.

Rep. Porter told listeners that people in the “civilised” world must do everything in their power to remove this “scourge”. Shortly after Nayirah’s testimony A-10 Warthogs, Abraham tanks, cruise missiles and all the same sort of instruments of death now being used on Gazan civilians were unleashed on the Iraqis. Hundreds of thousands were killed or maimed. When challenged over the deaths of thousands of real Iraqi babies in a subsequent US blockade, Secretary of State Madeleine Albright said: “This is a very hard choice but we think the price is worth it.”

The Incubator babies had helped lay the groundwork for such monstrous inhumanity. The beheaded babies of Israel have done their job too - allowing Netanyahu to say the assault on Gaza is a “holy mission”. Fellow Knesset MPs have called for a non-nuclear Hiroshima, a second Nakba, another bombing like that of Dresden - praising the resolution of the British and Americans in committing these acts. “It is time to be cruel,” Cabinet Minister Bezalel Smotrich, who leads the Religious Zionist Party, told the world last week.

The Americans and Israelis have two comparative advantages over any of their adversaries. Unrivalled ability to kill people. And storytelling. Nobody does it better.

So beware of dead babies. They can kill millions
https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL2310/S00048/the-beheaded-babies-who-survived-the-hamas-attack.htm


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« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2023, 09:50:03 pm »
Israel is literally getting away with murder; pun intended, in broad daylight with full view of the world watching. They said it wont happen again after ww2. We have concentration camp that is Gaza and babies burnt to death


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« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2023, 09:45:58 am »
@ Robbie .You said assuming this is not my assessment ,did you not read the whole tread .I do not know how you could assume this is not my assessment I posted similar excluding the Infant based feast that was served up by others .I posted about the Murderous Brits and Yanks in fact I clearly stated there would never be World Peace until the States gets bombed turning them into a defensive nation and not the Worlds leading Aggressors .I posted an alternative version of the issue from an Israeli side and Clearly stated both Israel and Hamas both offended me but for one to be educated they must see both sides of an argument then their opinion becomes an opinion and not an Echo of some one else's .

Robbie this has actually been one of the better issues discussed on here with differing opinions being posted without name calling or insult .There once was a Man who was second in Command his name was Donald and he had the codes to the Nuclear button in case the Number one Guy met his maker .

Now Robbie you are trying to work that out and probably thing that I refer to Donald J Trump as the second in Command after God Donny might dispute who is really number one but then you think he is losing it how can God meet his maker ?so you decide I must be mad !

Now let me explain why we need to know what we need to know and also need to know what they dont want us to know so we can actually know what it is we actually know .

The Second In Command Donald was Rumsfeld he had control over the Big Red button if Bush got whacked ,the second most powerfull man on earth at the time and when asked about the last great Lie that killed Millions in the Middle East Weapons of Mass Destruction , destroyed countries overtrew governments he told the whole World ..{ There are known knowns, things we know that we know; and there are known unknowns, things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns, things we do not know we don't know.}

You can never know enough when deciding exactly what you need to know .The article was sent to me from a Magazine I get on line called the Scoop it is a New Zealand based Citizen authored publication .That was all I got Bullit found the article on line and it contains the Authors name and contact details .You say you have been told about beheading of Children By Who ?Is there any evidence any Facebook or Tic Toc or You tube videos .We have seen the Gools in Ireland posting headless girls  or Motorcyclists who were involved in accidents on the M50 But 40 opportunities and lets be honest here for somebody to get likes on their Videos or Twitter now called X account and not one person posted a Video .

It would be comforting to think that whoever has been telling you that babies were beheaded you now feel confident to ask them for proof ,even if these treads has inspired you to ask more questions or look deeper into what it is you think you think and then feel more confident in what you think is correct ,then we togeather have learned a bit .Like I said I have no clue who is right or wrong on the Principle issue of whos land is it anyway ,but I do know that slaughtering human beings in the name of Landlordisim is never valid .Think of the irony of most wars .The people that you think you are fighting for are the very people whos lives will be given in the fight .How the Fuck do they win ?Get Makem and Clancy to write a Ballot about them ?How many of Young Thug and his mates or  Powtey Lipped Linda ,would be able to tell you the story if when down the Flats after a fistfull of Flagons of Cheap Lidil Cider you broke into song ."In Mountjoy Jail one Monday morning high upon the Gallows tree Kevin Barry gave his younglife "Probably tell you Ah I knew Barryer he roped himself in the Joy because he heard his bird did the dirt on him when he was on the CWing .

Robbie I am going to leave you with a thought for today .Are there any public statues to terrorists in Dublin .Why are there not Statues of the Signatories of the Proclamation all over Dublin .There is one of James Connolly but as a Union Leader erected by SIPTU .On our main street you have on both ends Daniel O Connell and Charles Stewart Parnell neither of whome ever fired a bullit for Irish Independence or Liberty.Today is Thursday I will have Breakfast take a dump in an indoor toilet .I can go to the Art Gallery or Museum or Paddy Powers or the Pub .Will Israel ever have that peace if they take their Land by Force  ?

Its a Fucked up World Robbie and all we can do is inform ourselves so we do not become victims of the Fuck up or add to it .There is no such thing as a silly question just silly people who dont know the answers .
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« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2023, 10:57:46 am »
I guess I'm not surprised but the vast majority of the reporting has been so one-sided and any dissenting voices are attacked quite strongly.  It seems to me that a lot of public opinion is sympathetic to the Palestinians but you don't see in the media.  Public protests in the UK in support of them are considered criminal and people are getting arrested.  I saw one article that the police are investing someone who wore a Hamas costume for Hallowen!

For over 50 years, the BBC basically had a neutral reporting stance.  They didn't call groups terrorists or freedom fighters or whatever.  But now they can't say the word Hamas without saying the UK Govt considers them terrorists.  So much for unbiased reporting!

And for me, universities are places where you go a bit mad and spend a few years being radical and solving all the world's problems because you're 21 and you know best.  But, in America, the kids and lecturers are being punished for having a different opinion to the politicians. 

Nobody's mentioning that Israeli citizens are attacking & killing Palestinians in the West Bank or that the Israeli Govt told the Gazans to move south and now they're bombing those supposed 'safe' places.

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« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2023, 11:51:52 am »
Watty I have a strange theory .I posted we do not have Statues to Violent Revolutionaries .Is this because the Government do not want to encourage us to believe Revolution can over throw them ? Now you take Countries formed out of Violence or who extoled Violence their streets are covered in Revolutionary figures in England you have Wellington,Churchill Cenotaphs Kitchner other Dukes that led armies .In France they do not have many just Arc de Triumph .Germany has removed most of there's and even the Good old Boys in Far down South of the United States of Gods Own Country are removing Robert E Lee .It seems Countries born out of armed struggle build armies to protect the victors mostly from their own losing side and put up loads of Statues and memorials to military figures just to remind the Subjects where the Power lies .You fly to Israel you land at Ben Gurien airport a Terrorist leader .

Going back to Lord Beverbrook  in England who bought the Daily Mirror to promote the Labour Party and Rupert Murdock who bought Fox news the news we get depends on the editorial bent of the owner or editors .The BBc like RTE are PUBLIC Broadcasters meaning the Public Purse /Minister of the Day signs the Checks so they do their bidding as in they know which side their bread is buttered and who has the butter .
I am going to tell you a Big Dommo Story .He is a great bloke fictional so cannot be sued .Do you read the Ditch Magazine on line ?It is the most anty FF publication even worse than An Poblacht .it is the site exposed Leo the Traitor .All the FF landlords the Hospital scandal of Kids with mecanno frames drilled and fixed with Screwfix anchor bolts and gate springs .Well big Dommo is out one night in a very posh gaff in Leopardstown not drinking Lidil cheap cider but a nice Merlot about 26 yoyo a bottle from Oddbins or O briens and he gets into a conversation with a Journalist who informs him why The Ditch is so anty FF .

The owners of the Web Summitt meet MicK from down where the Floodwaters rise and asks here Mick we bring all of the Big decision makers in World Tech into Ireland for a week they stay in top hotels pay top dollar but more importantly the IDA and Enterprise Ireland get to meet them take them out build contacts show them around introduce them to other local entrepreneurs .You give the FAI big bucks to bring tourists foorball supporters into the country same for Rugby they get coin same for horse racing Ireland .So how about a few Million for us to grow our brand .Mick from Cork said we are only in a supply and support role but when we get into government we can build you a nice purse .

Now a few years later Mick from cork and his merry men get into power and they get an E mail reminding them they promised Pocket but When the Minister asks he is told tell them to fuck off .They brought all the Bif decision makers here already we have built personal relationships we dont need what they are selling .So They took the hump moved the Web Summit to Portugal and sponsored the Ditch Website to get revenge on FF .

That is how media works they really dont give a fuck about the substantive issues just who they can piss off .Fine Fail started the Irish Press Fg had the Indo .Everything we read or hear has a paymaster .And all the fuckology you hear about Content Moderation on the Internet is bollox anything they want to get out gets out anything they want to supress gets supressed the Legislation for it is about as usefull as confetti at a wedding just scattered to add colour to a dreary couple .

Now think if we had a proper SIPO Standards in Public Office operating would Leo have gotten away with sharing government papers .If we had a decent opposition would the Dodger Donnolly still be Minister for Health .Would Coveneys Lesbian mate who they tried to give a handy job to not of led to the Downfall of the Government .How the fuck was there not a single stone thrown when we bailed out the banks or paid up for rotting meat exports for Larry the Billionaire .Because the Media stayed quiet .I know one of  the Law professor in Griffith College teaches Journalism liable he said the biggest gift ever in Irish Politics was Cancer .I said you a sub editor what does that mean Cancer is greatest Political Gift headline .He said Brian Lennihan Dying was the Story not the death of the Banks .The papers wrote him up as the man who saved the Banking System knowing it was going to cost billions then covered the price in a pall of sorrow for poor Brian .Watty we are all being manipulated and that is probably a good thing as most people lack the ability to think for themselves and the ones who do think for themselves lack the thick skin to stand over what they think or believe at least until they leave university and learn you you need to think like a boss or else?
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« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2023, 12:05:10 pm »
Re the statues:  The 1916 into the Civil War was a very difficult time for many Irish people and apparently it was common to have brother fighting/shooting brother.  I believe, even to this day, that some families don't talk about it.  And FF, FG and SF meant different things back then to what they do nowadays.  So maybe the official policy is to let sleeping dogs lie?

And maybe we're just not 'statue' people?  Look at the abuse that the various sculptures got when they were put up.  The floozie in the jacuzzi, the millenium clock that had to be hidden near Parkgate St, The Spire - a monument to junkies, the boobs of the Molly Malone are being worn away because people keep copping a feel!  :o etc etc...
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« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2023, 12:27:43 pm »
Ah Watty our Blessed Lady in Ballinspittle was moving .Did you know why Dublin had no Hirised buildings before the Spire ?The City Charter says no Building shall be more than twice the height of the tallest Monument in the City .This was the monuments were always to a Monarch or Power Figure and they never wanted to Display that Commerce was greater than Monarchy or Power .To keep to the City Charter we just erected a taller monument .Liberty Hall was built without planning permission the Unions just told the Government stop this build and there wont be a worker at their job come Monday Morning .

I suppose The Duke of wherever or his highness have been replaced by Gay Byrne ,Joe Duffy the Kardashians they are the new ideas people you control them you control the narrative no need for a statue they join you in your living room through the telly box .Are we gullable or what .Ruby Walsh telling you what he thinks will win the 3.30 from Galway while getting paid by a bookie .Control the media control the message .What was going on the time of the Moving Statues was that The Irish Insurance Corporation Collapse or the PMPA or Libian Beef .How fortunate RTE were able to ignore that as droves of oulones is heavy wollen overcoats and headscarves knelt on wet ground with their beeds praying to see the Statue of our Blessed Lady .Imagine some people in Ireland think Father Ted is not a Documentary celebrating our stupidity  .Or the Ballymagash Urban District Council meeting in O Tools Bar lounge and Discotech and local art gallery combined was not the Dail meeting in Donnaght and Nesbitts .As long as they feed it to you in bitesize pieces we will swallow anything .

You will get a giggle out of this one .Palastinial lad and his family from Clonsilla stuck in Palastine he is on the Phone this morning to RTE reporter saying due to bad phone signal he might not know when the Border crossing is open with Egypt and might miss his chance to leave .TAKE YOU TIME it will come to you .
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« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2023, 12:52:25 pm »
I find channel 4 news balanced, since the days of jon snow, but most other news networks lack depth of issues and I suspect is the dumbing down of masses. Leaving cert has to be dumbed down inflating grades and universities struggling to educate kids. Students now get their university lessons on tik tok, which in a way has revolutionised media in an organic way rather than top down


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« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2023, 12:59:20 pm »
@ Robbie .You said assuming this is not my assessment ,did you not read the whole tread .I do not know how you could assume this is not my assessment I posted similar excluding the Infant based feast that was served up by others .I posted about the Murderous Brits and Yanks in fact I clearly stated there would never be World Peace until the States gets bombed turning them into a defensive nation and not the Worlds leading Aggressors .I posted an alternative version of the issue from an Israeli side and Clearly stated both Israel and Hamas both offended me but for one to be educated they must see both sides of an argument then their opinion becomes an opinion and not an Echo of some one else's .

Robbie this has actually been one of the better issues discussed on here with differing opinions being posted without name calling or insult .There once was a Man who was second in Command his name was Donald and he had the codes to the Nuclear button in case the Number one Guy met his maker .

Now Robbie you are trying to work that out and probably thing that I refer to Donald J Trump as the second in Command after God Donny might dispute who is really number one but then you think he is losing it how can God meet his maker ?so you decide I must be mad !

Now let me explain why we need to know what we need to know and also need to know what they dont want us to know so we can actually know what it is we actually know .

The Second In Command Donald was Rumsfeld he had control over the Big Red button if Bush got whacked ,the second most powerfull man on earth at the time and when asked about the last great Lie that killed Millions in the Middle East Weapons of Mass Destruction , destroyed countries overtrew governments he told the whole World ..{ There are known knowns, things we know that we know; and there are known unknowns, things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns, things we do not know we don't know.}

You can never know enough when deciding exactly what you need to know .The article was sent to me from a Magazine I get on line called the Scoop it is a New Zealand based Citizen authored publication .That was all I got Bullit found the article on line and it contains the Authors name and contact details .You say you have been told about beheading of Children By Who ?Is there any evidence any Facebook or Tic Toc or You tube videos .We have seen the Gools in Ireland posting headless girls  or Motorcyclists who were involved in accidents on the M50 But 40 opportunities and lets be honest here for somebody to get likes on their Videos or Twitter now called X account and not one person posted a Video .

It would be comforting to think that whoever has been telling you that babies were beheaded you now feel confident to ask them for proof ,even if these treads has inspired you to ask more questions or look deeper into what it is you think you think and then feel more confident in what you think is correct ,then we togeather have learned a bit .Like I said I have no clue who is right or wrong on the Principle issue of whos land is it anyway ,but I do know that slaughtering human beings in the name of Landlordisim is never valid .Think of the irony of most wars .The people that you think you are fighting for are the very people whos lives will be given in the fight .How the Fuck do they win ?Get Makem and Clancy to write a Ballot about them ?How many of Young Thug and his mates or  Powtey Lipped Linda ,would be able to tell you the story if when down the Flats after a fistfull of Flagons of Cheap Lidil Cider you broke into song ."In Mountjoy Jail one Monday morning high upon the Gallows tree Kevin Barry gave his younglife "Probably tell you Ah I knew Barryer he roped himself in the Joy because he heard his bird did the dirt on him when he was on the CWing .

Robbie I am going to leave you with a thought for today .Are there any public statues to terrorists in Dublin .Why are there not Statues of the Signatories of the Proclamation all over Dublin .There is one of James Connolly but as a Union Leader erected by SIPTU .On our main street you have on both ends Daniel O Connell and Charles Stewart Parnell neither of whome ever fired a bullit for Irish Independence or Liberty.Today is Thursday I will have Breakfast take a dump in an indoor toilet .I can go to the Art Gallery or Museum or Paddy Powers or the Pub .Will Israel ever have that peace if they take their Land by Force  ?

Its a Fucked up World Robbie and all we can do is inform ourselves so we do not become victims of the Fuck up or add to it .There is no such thing as a silly question just silly people who dont know the answers .
Robbie I am going to leave you with a thought for today .Are there any public statues to terrorists in Dublin



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