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Dublin Senator calls for Uber to operate down the country only
« on: December 27, 2023, 08:01:37 pm »
Someone in government needs to do a background financial check on this guy:

Let Uber operate in rural Ireland to tackle transport issues around country, senator says
FG senator Garret Ahearn challenges Minister Eamon Ryan to do more to speed up provision of taxis and hackneys outside big cities



Uber is subject to regulation in Ireland, allowed only in some cities and with fares taken only by licensed taxis.
Tim O'Brien
Wed Dec 27 2023 - 13:33

Here Garret, here's a regular scene in Dublin all over Xmas.



People in rural Ireland saw their Christmas socialising and shopping seriously curtailed because a lack of viable taxi and hackney options, Senator Garret Ahearn has said.

The Clonmel, Co Tipperary based Fine Gael senator has called on Minister for Transport Eamon Ryan to push to deregulate transport so services like Uber can operate more easily in more of the country.

Senator Ahearn said “a choice of transport is something most people in rural Ireland can only dream about”.

“This Christmas, we’ve seen once again in areas like my own of Clonmel and in towns and villages right around the country, the curtailment of people’s socialising and shopping through to a lack of decent transport,” he said.


The Senator said rural Ireland was experiencing a significant shortage of taxi services in towns. “That has been evident particularly throughout this busy season. It’s high time we saw some intent from the Minister for Transport to address the problem,” he said.

Uber, which has been in Ireland since 2014, is still only licensed to operate in cities and is subject to the same regulations as other small public service vehicles (SPSV) operators, which limits its functionality compared to other jurisdictions where drivers without taxi licences can take fares.


Senator Ahern said this needs to be expanded with the National Transport Authority’s (NTA) “resistance” to services like Uber addressed by the Minister for Transport.

Otherwise the Senator said “people living in rural Ireland will continue to suffer”.

He added that Mr Ryan “should be doing more to ensure a quicker roll out of taxis and hackneys in areas outside the main urban cities”.

At the beginning of this year, Mr Ryan launched the 2023 local hackney pilot scheme, a one-year grant-aided pilot programme that aims to assist in providing part-time local hackney services in designated rural areas that cannot support a full-time taxi or hackney operation.

“But this pilot is currently only servicing 21 locations nationwide and even at that, local hackneys may only pick up passengers within a designated area of between 7-10km from a chosen point” Senator Ahearn said.

“Those living in our cities and big urban centres are afforded choice when it comes to transport. There’s public transport and various taxi options. A choice of transport is something most people in rural Ireland can only dream about – they need a safe, reliable mode of transport that can take them where they need to go, be it to meet friends, attend an appointment or do shopping.


“For too long Minister Ryan has passed the buck to the NTA, leaving the ball entirely in their court to veto who drives our taxis, from where and when.”


Tim O'Brien is an Irish Times journalist
















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Re: Dublin Senator calls for Uber to operate down the country only
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2023, 08:15:37 pm »
Hmmmm, if only there was something like...

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Re: Dublin Senator calls for Uber to operate down the country only
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2023, 09:19:23 pm »
Rural hacks ???

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Re: Dublin Senator calls for Uber to operate down the country only
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2023, 05:32:27 am »
Run the buses fer an extra 4 hours from 11.30pm to 3.30am every Friday and Sat night, double the bus fare and double the drivers salary after midnight.  PROBLEM SORTED !!

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Re: Dublin Senator calls for Uber to operate down the country only
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2023, 05:58:13 am »
To  Garret Ahearn;
From Ken Cashman, Cork city night time Taxi driver. Badge number L4447.

I have seen your proposal to introduce uber in to the rural areas, that will not work for the simple reason that if a driver gets a uber license then the first place they will head for on the busy nights is in to the cities or large towns where they can easily double their nights takings and legislation might make it illegal for them to do so but there is little that can be done to stop them from doing it by night.

What I am proposing and hopefully you might agree and put forward is for all city and large town Bus routes to stay open for an extra 4 hours from 11.30pm to 3.30am on Friday and Saturday nights, to include the Sundays of bank holiday weekends, + 16th/17th March and 26th/31st December as the taxies alone cannot cope with the demand at these times. Also for all local rural bus routes to stay running on the same nights till 1.30am.
Double the bus fare price after midnight and Double the bus driver's salary and possibly put a security guard on every city/town bus after midnight.
If the above was implemented there would be little talk on the radio or press ever again about shortages of taxies.

The simple solution for everyone is just to get more taxies or introduce uber rideshare, but the problem is that it is only for the 8 hours per week as mentioned above that there is a shortage of taxies, for the rest of the week Taxi drivers are waiting around for fares.

Best, Ken.

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Re: Dublin Senator calls for Uber to operate down the country only
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2023, 06:49:37 am »
ken is right.
the only good uber driver is a dead uber driver.

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Re: Dublin Senator calls for Uber to operate down the country only
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2023, 07:29:37 am »
Uber is subject to regulation in Ireland, allowed only in some cities

Why and what cities is it not allowed in?
If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

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Re: Dublin Senator calls for Uber to operate down the country only
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2023, 08:57:04 am »
It's on the way

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Re: Dublin Senator calls for Uber to operate down the country only
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2023, 09:13:19 am »
We already have it in the beautiful seaside resort town of Balbriggan. I've used it myself on a couple of occasions when both Lynk and Bolt had no cars. I don't know why it's not allowed elsewhere. Are Lynk, Free Now and Bolt also banned from certain local authority areas and, if so, under what legislation?
If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

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Re: Dublin Senator calls for Uber to operate down the country only
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2023, 10:29:00 am »
I think Uber is allowed everywhere in Ireland now? I heard some Uber boss say so on radio only a few months ago.

I worked the st stephens night, first night in 3 months, I heard the usual, are there lots of taxis who took the night off? no, I said its just thee are lots of people out, so it takes a while to get everyone home, I have had busier st stephens nights as well and only got 7 euro in tips, maybe  a recession is coming? it only took around 2 hours from 2:30 am to 4:30 am to get everyone home, thats not too bad on a night like that, most people want food after the nightclubs and that wastes a bit of time.

my town has plenty of taxis anyway, no need for Uber rideshare.

The Senator who wants Uber should realize they are granting local area hack licenses fairly often so he should hold his horses and let the NTA do their job.

The arrogance of some senator to think he knows better than the NTA about how transport should be run in the Country is unbelievable when you think about it, who is he to dictate that Uber should be allowed?
« Last Edit: December 28, 2023, 10:41:37 am by taxi1990 »

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Re: Dublin Senator calls for Uber to operate down the country only
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2023, 11:04:08 am »
If rideshare comes in Free Now will be the main provider. One can already hire electric rickshaws from Free Now up above in Dublin and one can hire a PH Prius for c.30% of the metered taxi fare from Free Now in London, where drivers of the same happily pay 25% commission.... so, while you may not think there's a need there's certainly scope to significantly lower the price of getting from A to B which would, in turn, stimulate economic activity.
If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

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Re: Dublin Senator calls for Uber to operate down the country only
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2023, 11:14:23 am »
To be fair to the Senator, it's his job to propose legislative change where he feels it may be warranted. NTA has, for example, no jurisdiction over the regulation of certain EVs... at least when it suits it - or it's paymasters in Free Now - to have no jurisdiction.
If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

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Re: Dublin Senator calls for Uber to operate down the country only
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2023, 11:36:51 am »
We already have it in the beautiful seaside resort town of Balbriggan. I've used it myself on a couple of occasions when both Lynk and Bolt had no cars. I don't know why it's not allowed elsewhere. Are Lynk, Free Now and Bolt also banned from certain local authority areas and, if so, under what legislation?

Curiously NTA seemed to have washed their hands* about FN's bicycle 'taxis' but they've been very clear to Uber that anybody can operate a taxi in ireland as long as it's a licenced PSV taxi.














* Following receipt of the pedal cab vehicle specification documentation, NTA this morning determined that the vehicle proposed for use by Kerb does not meet the legislative definition of a mechanically propelled vehicle as set out in the Road Traffic Act 1961, as amended. Therefore, NTA can now confirm that this vehicle does not require licensing within the regulatory remit of NTA as a small public service vehicle.
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Re: Dublin Senator calls for Uber to operate down the country only
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2023, 11:54:55 am »
it is bullshit, there are taxis and hackneys available to people in rural Ireland, I know, I live here. too many taxis really.

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Re: Dublin Senator calls for Uber to operate down the country only
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2023, 12:24:10 pm »
It's on the way


https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30899259.html

Jim was at the same years ago, never happened, dont worry about it.

people are going out less these days than years ago as well because of rip off pubs and restaurants.

 


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