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Re: 2015
« Reply #45 on: January 15, 2024, 04:54:04 pm »
Thank you for contacting the National Transport Authority.

On the 18th of November 2022, the NTA Board approved the signing of the below Regulations.
Small Public Service Vehicle (Contingency Measure – Vehicle Supply) (Maximum Permissible Age) Regulations

Recent climate, energy and geopolitical challenges, in particular, have made it unfeasible for all end of life SPSVs to be replaced before they reach their final operation date. These regulations facilitate the licensing of eligible taxis and hackneys for additional operation in excess of the usual Maximum Permissible Age Requirements.

These regulations permit an extension to the final operation date of vehicles due to reach their final date of operation/maximum permissible age between 13 March 2020 and 31 December 2024.

SPSV licence holders will receive communications in the coming weeks confirming the new final operation date of their current licensed vehicle.

A review of the suitability of the exceptional contingency Regulations will happen at the end of 2023.

If you have any questions in relation to the above, please do not hesitate to contact us on 0818-064000.

Yours sincerely,
National Transport Authority


This is a mail from Dec 22--------anybody get of the "Review"--I didn't so mailed them for details--yet to hear from them !

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Re: 2015
« Reply #46 on: January 15, 2024, 05:31:37 pm »
List of NTRA board meetings -->  https://www.nationaltransport.ie/about-us/board/

Nov 22 meeting -->  https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Minutes-of-Board-Meeting-November-2022.pdf

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9. Taxi/ SPSV
a) Draft Small Public Service Vehicle (Contingency Measure – Vehicle Supply) (Maximum
Permissible Age) Regulations

Ms Thompson provided an overview of the Draft Small Public Service Vehicle (Contingency Measure
– Vehicle Supply) (Maximum Permissible Age) Regulations and the submissions received from the
public consultation.
Following the overview provided by Ms Thompson, the Board approved the Draft Small Public Service
Vehicle (Contingency Measure – Vehicle Supply) (Maximum Permissible Age) Regulations.

b) Draft Small Public Service Vehicle (Fixed Payment Offences and Driver Licence Period)
Regulations.

Ms Thompson provided an overview of the Draft Small Public Service Vehicle (Fixed Payment Offences
and Driver Licence Period) Regulations and the submissions received from the public consultation.
Following the overview provided by Ms Thompson, the Board approved the Draft Small Public Service
Vehicle (Fixed Payment Offences and Driver Licence Period) Regulations

I don't see Ms Tompson's name listed in the attendee's at the top of the minutes.

I dunno.  If the NTA board can change the rules once, they can change them a second time?
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Re: 2015
« Reply #47 on: January 15, 2024, 05:37:51 pm »
Thanks Punter .I am relying on a reply by the relevant minister that I will not be forced out of the Industry .I would assume I can apply for a small business loan under the scheme he mentioned .I am thinking along these lines .If my vehicle is sentenced to death then I will apply for any new EV grant .If I can get a year or two extension then I will keep what I have .Then save some coin and then based on driver experience decide to go EV or Hybrid for my final vehicle .Imagine if Landlords were told they MUST decorate their Lounges or Bars at the whim of the licencing authority or you were told when to shave your dog by the Dog Licencing Authority .It is the Arbitrary  nature of the Decision and the FACT the Minister said on the Record of the Dail that nobody would be forced out due to having to change a vehicle .I have requested direction on how to appeal this decision under any appeals process .
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Re: 2015
« Reply #48 on: January 15, 2024, 05:49:39 pm »
Well, the landlords were told to basically put toilets in all the bedsits, effectively closing off cheap housing for a lot of people.

If I was arguing the point, I'd point to the different treatment saloons and WAT's get.  Initially, there wasn't enough WAT's so they got special treatment and were allowed to go past 10yrs.  Now I think WAT's make up over 10% of the fleet and the 10% NTA target has been achieved.  But they're not changing the rules.  So if they WAT's can get special treatment, why can't you?
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Re: 2015
« Reply #49 on: January 15, 2024, 05:57:08 pm »
Well, the landlords were told to basically put toilets in all the bedsits, effectively closing off cheap housing for a lot of people.

If I was arguing the point, I'd point to the different treatment saloons and WAT's get.  Initially, there wasn't enough WAT's so they got special treatment and were allowed to go past 10yrs.  Now I think WAT's make up over 10% of the fleet and the 10% NTA target has been achieved.  But they're not changing the rules.  So if they WAT's can get special treatment, why can't you?

I think my issue can be restricted to Saloons comparing like with like .My maths if this makes any sense is If i can get two more years out of this That has a value of about 6 grand as depreciation is running about 3 grand a year on the Full Retail of EVs or Hybrids .So if I can save a notional 6 grand then if i buy a Hybrid for lets say 25.000 I gain 6 grand in use of my old motor and an extended usage two years on any new vehicle a notional saving of nearly 40% .Given a choice I think I would opt for a Hybrid over an EV .But a finance package would or could change my mind .
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Re: 2015
« Reply #50 on: January 15, 2024, 10:31:24 pm »
Well, the landlords were told to basically put toilets in all the bedsits, effectively closing off cheap housing for a lot of people.

If I was arguing the point, I'd point to the different treatment saloons and WAT's get.  Initially, there wasn't enough WAT's so they got special treatment and were allowed to go past 10yrs.  Now I think WAT's make up over 10% of the fleet and the 10% NTA target has been achieved.  But they're not changing the rules.  So if they WAT's can get special treatment, why can't you?

I think my issue can be restricted to Saloons comparing like with like .My maths if this makes any sense is If i can get two more years out of this That has a value of about 6 grand as depreciation is running about 3 grand a year on the Full Retail of EVs or Hybrids .So if I can save a notional 6 grand then if i buy a Hybrid for lets say 25.000 I gain 6 grand in use of my old motor and an extended usage two years on any new vehicle a notional saving of nearly 40% .Given a choice I think I would opt for a Hybrid over an EV .But a finance package would or could change my mind .
This might help. They've been hounding me since I made a cursory enquiry in 2022:
https://microfinanceireland.ie/microfinance-ireland-backs-electric-taxis/

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Re: 2015
« Reply #51 on: January 16, 2024, 08:15:39 am »
I think it was reasonable of me to trust the word of the Minister when he said "no operator exited the industry simply because of the need to replace a vehicle. QED !
I think that was a covid related quote.

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Re: 2015
« Reply #52 on: January 16, 2024, 08:36:01 am »
I think it was reasonable of me to trust the word of the Minister when he said "no operator exited the industry simply because of the need to replace a vehicle. QED !
I think that was a covid related quote.

Ken why should ALL Vehicles in the Fleet Pre Covid not get an Extension ? The Minister made a statement in the Dail that drivers may of depended on to plan their next purchase .

This Public question they asked .Where did they Publish it and what was the Wording .How many replies did they get .Why do the Public have a Say on my Licenced Business but not on Ryanair or aerlingus Planes .or Dublin Bus .Some of the School busses on our roads have numberplates in Latin they are that old .
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Re: 2015
« Reply #53 on: January 16, 2024, 08:41:48 am »
Watch now that it is an election year .They will look again at aiding certain industries like restaurants as a lot of them are closing due to higher vAT and Minimum Wage .If we dont ask we wont be noticed .
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Re: 2015
« Reply #54 on: January 16, 2024, 09:32:06 am »
We could do with losing a few taxis in all fairness...... it's shite at the moment.Would ya not just bow out gracefully Erm...When I get to the rank in me newish jammer all yous lads in the bangers should have to let me up to the top.I've got bleeding loans to pay off...

I also think we could lose a few restaurants and coffee shops.Money is tightening up.If your business isn't recession proof the government shouldn't be giving you handouts.All those expensive coffee shops are selling shit people don't actually need.

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Re: 2015
« Reply #55 on: January 16, 2024, 10:53:07 am »
 ..me an johnny have bean warmin yuos a recession was comin for bout 15 years ......did yis not  prepare ?
Move back to yer ma,s gaff  like everyone else an rent out yur gaff to Google.....wen Google lays off yur tenant ...rent it out to a ukraimiams.....buy a load of bitcoin ....it'll go paraplegic during the great depression..
An most importantly....try not to give a bollix anymore ....yous are all old an will be dead soon
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Re: 2015
« Reply #56 on: January 16, 2024, 11:12:53 am »
OCCI I had sort of a retirement planned .Whoever roosted longest me or me Hen got the Gaff sold it lived off the proceeds .Kids got what was left when we roosted no more .But that has changed .I see people who had jobs Mortgages careers .Made homeless because of Ill health .Jobloss or greedy banks .I wont sell the family home it will be left to the kids but they wont be able to sell it either it will give my family a secure roof over their heads if anything ever goes wrong .

 I will now have to work till I die or am to sick to spend .My house was to be my pension in my retirement .Life has a huge arsehole and believe me when it shits on you it really shits on you .I have not had one good day since the day I turned 62 .And add in an appointment at the Beacon on Thursday .You can see why I dont want to put big coin into any business just now .

Donny T going to lead the World but in what direction .No work tomorrow China Man in Town so roads blocked .If you were HG Wells and had a time Machine and went back to talk tp George Orwell about 2024 .He would say you had a greater imagination than he did and he would probably call you Big Brother with all the Data we now have .
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Re: 2015
« Reply #57 on: January 16, 2024, 11:50:56 am »
OCCI I had sort of a retirement planned .Whoever roosted longest me or me Hen got the Gaff sold it lived off the proceeds .Kids got what was left when we roosted no more .But that has changed .I see people who had jobs Mortgages careers .Made homeless because of Ill health .Jobloss or greedy banks .I wont sell the family home it will be left to the kids but they wont be able to sell it either it will give my family a secure roof over their heads if anything ever goes wrong .

 I will now have to work till I die or am to sick to spend .My house was to be my pension in my retirement .Life has a huge arsehole and believe me when it shits on you it really shits on you .I have not had one good day since the day I turned 62 .And add in an appointment at the Beacon on Thursday .You can see why I dont want to put big coin into any business just now .

Donny T going to lead the World but in what direction .No work tomorrow China Man in Town so roads blocked .If you were HG Wells and had a time Machine and went back to talk tp George Orwell about 2024 .He would say you had a greater imagination than he did and he would probably call you Big Brother with all the Data we now have .

I started back to work yesterday johnny ....I did 2 hours ....I
Also hav to work the rest of me life.....but I've decided this mornin I've a pain in me bollix workin....yur always tinkin bout tomorrow an next yer you'll be able to take the foot off the accelerator ......but its all a con or a personality disorder....January always does this to me ....despite the fact I'm a celt I do get a pain in me bollix in the winter ....an in January wen the work dries up I get a big pain in me bollix ....but the spring is only round the corner....
I've decided this yer to take it easy .....I broke me bollix last yer an trew all me money in to crypto ....an now I'm goin relax a bit .....
I think keeping the Gaff for the kids is a Fantastic decision... as long as yur wishes are written in stone ....goin be alot people homeless in this country in the comin yers ...its goin get worser an worser an crime is goin be a national pastime ....
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Re: 2015
« Reply #58 on: January 16, 2024, 03:33:11 pm »
OCCI I had sort of a retirement planned .Whoever roosted longest me or me Hen got the Gaff sold it lived off the proceeds .Kids got what was left when we roosted no more .But that has changed .I see people who had jobs Mortgages careers .Made homeless because of Ill health .Jobloss or greedy banks .I wont sell the family home it will be left to the kids but they wont be able to sell it either it will give my family a secure roof over their heads if anything ever goes wrong .

 I will now have to work till I die or am to sick to spend .My house was to be my pension in my retirement .Life has a huge arsehole and believe me when it shits on you it really shits on you .I have not had one good day since the day I turned 62 .And add in an appointment at the Beacon on Thursday .You can see why I dont want to put big coin into any business just now .

Donny T going to lead the World but in what direction .No work tomorrow China Man in Town so roads blocked .If you were HG Wells and had a time Machine and went back to talk tp George Orwell about 2024 .He would say you had a greater imagination than he did and he would probably call you Big Brother with all the Data we now have .

I started back to work yesterday johnny ....I did 2 hours ....I
Also hav to work the rest of me life.....but I've decided this mornin I've a pain in me bollix workin....yur always tinkin bout tomorrow an next yer you'll be able to take the foot off the accelerator ......but its all a con or a personality disorder....January always does this to me ....despite the fact I'm a celt I do get a pain in me bollix in the winter ....an in January wen the work dries up I get a big pain in me bollix ....but the spring is only round the corner....
I've decided this yer to take it easy .....I broke me bollix last yer an trew all me money in to crypto ....an now I'm goin relax a bit .....
I think keeping the Gaff for the kids is a Fantastic decision... as long as yur wishes are written in stone ....goin be alot people homeless in this country in the comin yers ...its goin get worser an worser an crime is goin be a national pastime ....
Aww, ya missed Xmas, it was a whopper! 8)

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Re: 2015
« Reply #59 on: January 16, 2024, 03:52:02 pm »
OCCI I had sort of a retirement planned .Whoever roosted longest me or me Hen got the Gaff sold it lived off the proceeds .Kids got what was left when we roosted no more .But that has changed .I see people who had jobs Mortgages careers .Made homeless because of Ill health .Jobloss or greedy banks .I wont sell the family home it will be left to the kids but they wont be able to sell it either it will give my family a secure roof over their heads if anything ever goes wrong .

 I will now have to work till I die or am to sick to spend .My house was to be my pension in my retirement .Life has a huge arsehole and believe me when it shits on you it really shits on you .I have not had one good day since the day I turned 62 .And add in an appointment at the Beacon on Thursday .You can see why I dont want to put big coin into any business just now .

Donny T going to lead the World but in what direction .No work tomorrow China Man in Town so roads blocked .If you were HG Wells and had a time Machine and went back to talk tp George Orwell about 2024 .He would say you had a greater imagination than he did and he would probably call you Big Brother with all the Data we now have .

I started back to work yesterday johnny ....I did 2 hours ....I
Also hav to work the rest of me life.....but I've decided this mornin I've a pain in me bollix workin....yur always tinkin bout tomorrow an next yer you'll be able to take the foot off the accelerator ......but its all a con or a personality disorder....January always does this to me ....despite the fact I'm a celt I do get a pain in me bollix in the winter ....an in January wen the work dries up I get a big pain in me bollix ....but the spring is only round the corner....
I've decided this yer to take it easy .....I broke me bollix last yer an trew all me money in to crypto ....an now I'm goin relax a bit .....
I think keeping the Gaff for the kids is a Fantastic decision... as long as yur wishes are written in stone ....goin be alot people homeless in this country in the comin yers ...its goin get worser an worser an crime is goin be a national pastime ....
Aww, ya missed Xmas, it was a whopper! 8)

I worked up to new yers day  bullits ....includin Christmas day .....last yer  Christmas day ( 2022)  I got 200 in 4 hours ....this yer ( 20 23) it took me all day ......definitely december was worst December in yers for me anyway ......
I went out today few hours got 25 quid then fell asleep in me car
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