YES NO or FUCKOFF

[John m]

How are you voting in the Referendums ..Looking at the Care in the Home one .It means families should care for families but it does not say that the Government have any responsibility to pay carers ,only that families will be recognised as primary carers .Give it a read and see if it says anywhere that carers will be paid for looking after relatives .


The other one definition of Family .It is a tricky way to remove two words from the Constitution Woman and Home .So Three blokes or three Women can call themselves a family ? and if you remove the word home from the Constitution .Will that allow the State to stop providing Homes or paying HAP as people no longer have a right to a home .

Joan Burton started this a few years ago when she stopped Lone Parents for women as soon as the youngest child was 7 years old .But if a Womans place was in the home how could she go to work she has the Constitutional right to stay at home .If she loses that right to stay Home could she lose her HAP or rent allowance as she would no longer have a Constitutional role in the HOME ..


I will be voting NO to both referendums .The vote is in one months time .Do you know anything about it ?Has any politician knocked at your door promoting a yes vote ?


Not much in the papers about Leo not being investigated by the Dail Watchdog for leaking documents to his mates even though there is a court case to be taken by Paul Murphy in a few weeks asking why not ?

[taxi1990]

Do you not think this country is far too generous to people who don't work? Why protect their rights even more?

[John m]

Do you not think this country is far too generous to people who don't work? Why protect their rights even more?

Banks robbed BILLIONS developers pocketed BILLIONS and you think somebody on the dole is the problem ?Do you think only Unemployed people will be made look after their own sick people .You do know they take a lump of the value of your FAMILY HOME if you need a nursing home even though you might of paid tax all your life .

You do know that YOU will need to pay into a PRIVATE Pension on top of your PRSI and SOCIAL CHARGE .

Do you refuse unemployed customers ?

[taxi1990]

Do you not think this country is far too generous to people who don't work? Why protect their rights even more?

Banks robbed BILLIONS developers pocketed BILLIONS and you think somebody on the dole is the problem ?Do you think only Unemployed people will be made look after their own sick people .You do know they take a lump of the value of your FAMILY HOME if you need a nursing home even though you might of paid tax all your life .

You do know that YOU will need to pay into a PRIVATE Pension on top of your PRSI and SOCIAL CHARGE .

Do you refuse unemployed customers ?

The country is a free for all, way too generous to people who don't want to work.

The illegal guy in my town is in his 70s, never worked a day in his life, council house, has been reported to Revenue at least 5 times, to the social welfare fraud people etc.

People like that get rewarded in Ireland, people like me has to pay for the likes of him.

[John m]

How do you know he is illegal if he is 70 he has a pension that he qualified for .Have you reported him 5 times or is that Bog Chatter .

[taxi1990]

How do you know he is illegal if he is 70 he has a pension that he qualified for .Have you reported him 5 times or is that Bog Chatter .

I reported him 5 times and others did as well.

Maybe they might look at him eventually.

[watty]

I can't say I knew much about the Free Legal  Advice Centre (FLAC) apart from what it says on the tin.  But I was surprised they chose to make a public statement like this?

'Sexist and offensive’ – Human rights body Flac won’t be backing changes to ‘woman’s place’ provision in Constitution

The Free Legal Advice Centre (Flac) will not support the upcoming referendum on the so-called “women’s place” amendment.  The independent legal and human rights body has said the new care amendment the Government wants to put in the Constitution would be “as ineffective as the current so-called ‘women in the home’ provision” and claimed the new amendment is “implicitly sexist”.  “It is unlikely to provide carers, people with disabilities or older people with any new enforceable rights or to require the State to provide improved childcare, personal assistance services, supports for independent living, respite care or supports (at home or in school) for children with disabilities,” Flac said in a statement.

The organisation’s position, based on its own legal analysis of the upcoming vote, is that it is “highly regrettable” that the public weren’t given the chance to vote for a straight repeal of the “sexist and offensive” women in the home provision.  Flac said the proposed new care amendment was “implicitly sexist” because it implied that the responsibility to provide care rested with unpaid family members – the majority of whom are women. 

It also argued that the fact that the new amendment would perpetrate a “harmful stereotype of people with disabilities as the subjects of family care rather than autonomous individuals and rights-holders.  "The proposed new wording does nothing to enhance (and potentially compromises) the rights of people with disabilities as set out in the the UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities.” 

While Flac said it supports the referendum on the family, which is being held alongside the care referendum on March 8, it said it will not be actively participating in the current referendum campaigns.

It comes as separately, a poll said the majority of mothers of dependent children in Ireland (69pc) would would prefer to stay at home with their children rather than go out to work if they could afford it.  An Amárach poll commissioned by the conservative think tank the Iona Institute also found that 76pc of mothers said that women who work in the home are undervalued by society, compared with women who work outside the home.  More than 70pc of mothers polled said they do not feel valued by society for their work as mothers.  The research was commissioned ahead of the March 8 referendums.

Professor Patricia Casey, a spokeswoman for the Iona Institute said the findings were “extremely relevant” to the upcoming referendum on carers.  “I have been a working mother for most of my adult life. This is what I wanted and Article 41.2 of the Constitution held me back in no way, shape or form,” she said.  “Children’s Minister, Roderic O’Gorman, says ‘a woman’s place is wherever she wants it to be’, and that is exactly correct. The trouble is the policy of this and past governments has made it almost impossible for most mothers to stay at home with their children if that is what they want,” Ms Casey said.

Surprised to see FLAC/human rights mentioned in the same article as 'conservative think tank the Iona Institute.'