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Taxi driver can't escape long arm of the law
« on: February 17, 2024, 05:15:24 pm »
Taxi man drove off as garda held on to car to apprehend fleeing suspect, court told

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A taxi driver drove off as a garda held onto his car and attempted to apprehend a fleeing suspect who had got into the passenger seat, a court has heard.  Neville Griffin (49) “panicked” but stopped the car within seconds after the garda fell to the road.  Lawyers for Griffin said the offence was reckless, momentary and no serious harm was caused.  Griffin of Kippure Park, Finglas, pleaded guilty at Dublin Circuit Criminal Court to endangerment at River Road, Dublin 7 on January 3, 2021. He has five previous convictions.  Judge Martin Nolan adjourned sentencing until Monday, remanding Griffin on bail over the weekend. A victim impact statement was handed into Judge Nolan but not read in open court.

Detective Garda Selina Proudfoot told Derek Cooney BL, prosecuting, that on the day gardai were involved in the pursuit of a motor vehicle unconnected to Griffin around Finglas. The car stopped at Scribblestown Road and the three occupants took off running.  Gda Proudfoot said the injured garda was pursuing one of the males who scaled a wall onto River Road. The garda followed and he saw the man get into a passing taxi. He caught up with the taxi which had the window open, stating that he was a gardai.  The garda grabbed a hold of the passenger with one hand and the taxi door with his other hand. The taxi took off and the garda let go of the man but continued to hold onto the car.  The garda believed the driver would stop but when they did not he had to let go and fell onto the road. He heard another car coming behind and rolled onto the grass verge believing he would be run over, but it was garda colleagues in the car coming behind him.  The taxi driver, Griffin, stopped a short distance away. He told a garda who caught up with him that he did not know the young male, had panicked on seeing the garda as he did not want to get involved and just wanted to get away.  The garda received medical treatment and was sent home with anti-inflammatories. He was out of work for seven weeks, felt pain in his legs and was limping.

The court heard the garda was at the time playing Gaelic for his county and had been due to resume training but could not do that.  Gda Proudfoot agreed with Cathal McGreal BL, defending, that the distance between picking up the male and dropping him off was short and took less than 28 seconds.  She agreed Griffin has been in no trouble since and expressed apologies and remorse on several occasions. In interview Griffin told gardai that he had told the young man to get out when he realised what was happening. He said he had panicked and did not want to get involved.

Mr McGreal said his client was a family man who was a “rock” to those around him. He said in the intervening time since his prior offences in 2011, he had lived a good life and kept out of trouble. He handed in testimonials speaking to Griffin’s good character.  He said Griffin had caused a minor injury to the gardai by a stupid and reckless act that took a moment. He said the harm caused was not serious but the consequences were different to the harm.  He said the consequences for the victim had been unintended and his client should not be punished for unintended results.  Judge Nolan said if a gardai was holding onto the door and you did not stop, it was foreseeable that if you accelerated, away injuries may ensue. “No one knows if they will be serious or minor,” he said.  Mr McGreal said the injuries had not been serious and the offence was momentary.

Judge Nolan said he would give his decision on Monday.

Garda:  I was off work for 7 weeks
Solicitor:  Ah it wasn't that bad!


The boards.ie posters (& Wiki* it seems) are very critical about the ex-Garda Judge Nolan because he's considered too lenient.  Should be interesting to see the result on Monday!




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Controversies: Judge Nolan has attracted controversy for the perceived leniency of some of the sentences he has passed. An online petition to remove him from the bench attracted thousands of signatures.
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Re: Taxi driver can't escape long arm of the law
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2024, 06:10:28 pm »
When I read this story the first thing I thought was why was the copper holding on to the door of a moving vehicle.Surely common sense would tell him to let go he might potentially die or be seriously hurt.

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Re: Taxi driver can't escape long arm of the law
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2024, 06:40:39 pm »
There's many stories in the papers about them reaching in for the keys and getting dragged along the road.  They're not selected for their intelligence  rofl

On a serious note, I guess most of the population are respectful/afraid of the Guards so every now and then they get surprised when they meet someone who isn't?  Who'd have thought a taxi driver would be so naughty  :P
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Re: Taxi driver can't escape long arm of the law
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2024, 07:18:14 pm »
Taxi man drove off as garda held on to car to apprehend fleeing suspect, court told

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A taxi driver drove off as a garda held onto his car and attempted to apprehend a fleeing suspect who had got into the passenger seat, a court has heard.  Neville Griffin (49) “panicked” but stopped the car within seconds after the garda fell to the road.  Lawyers for Griffin said the offence was reckless, momentary and no serious harm was caused.  Griffin of Kippure Park, Finglas, pleaded guilty at Dublin Circuit Criminal Court to endangerment at River Road, Dublin 7 on January 3, 2021. He has five previous convictions.  Judge Martin Nolan adjourned sentencing until Monday, remanding Griffin on bail over the weekend. A victim impact statement was handed into Judge Nolan but not read in open court.

Detective Garda Selina Proudfoot told Derek Cooney BL, prosecuting, that on the day gardai were involved in the pursuit of a motor vehicle unconnected to Griffin around Finglas. The car stopped at Scribblestown Road and the three occupants took off running.  Gda Proudfoot said the injured garda was pursuing one of the males who scaled a wall onto River Road. The garda followed and he saw the man get into a passing taxi. He caught up with the taxi which had the window open, stating that he was a gardai.  The garda grabbed a hold of the passenger with one hand and the taxi door with his other hand. The taxi took off and the garda let go of the man but continued to hold onto the car.  The garda believed the driver would stop but when they did not he had to let go and fell onto the road. He heard another car coming behind and rolled onto the grass verge believing he would be run over, but it was garda colleagues in the car coming behind him.  The taxi driver, Griffin, stopped a short distance away. He told a garda who caught up with him that he did not know the young male, had panicked on seeing the garda as he did not want to get involved and just wanted to get away.  The garda received medical treatment and was sent home with anti-inflammatories. He was out of work for seven weeks, felt pain in his legs and was limping.

The court heard the garda was at the time playing Gaelic for his county and had been due to resume training but could not do that.  Gda Proudfoot agreed with Cathal McGreal BL, defending, that the distance between picking up the male and dropping him off was short and took less than 28 seconds.  She agreed Griffin has been in no trouble since and expressed apologies and remorse on several occasions. In interview Griffin told gardai that he had told the young man to get out when he realised what was happening. He said he had panicked and did not want to get involved.

Mr McGreal said his client was a family man who was a “rock” to those around him. He said in the intervening time since his prior offences in 2011, he had lived a good life and kept out of trouble. He handed in testimonials speaking to Griffin’s good character.  He said Griffin had caused a minor injury to the gardai by a stupid and reckless act that took a moment. He said the harm caused was not serious but the consequences were different to the harm.  He said the consequences for the victim had been unintended and his client should not be punished for unintended results.  Judge Nolan said if a gardai was holding onto the door and you did not stop, it was foreseeable that if you accelerated, away injuries may ensue. “No one knows if they will be serious or minor,” he said.  Mr McGreal said the injuries had not been serious and the offence was momentary.

Judge Nolan said he would give his decision on Monday.

Garda:  I was off work for 7 weeks
Solicitor:  Ah it wasn't that bad!


The boards.ie posters (& Wiki* it seems) are very critical about the ex-Garda Judge Nolan because he's considered too lenient.  Should be interesting to see the result on Monday!




* Wiki:
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Controversies: Judge Nolan has attracted controversy for the perceived leniency of some of the sentences he has passed. An online petition to remove him from the bench attracted thousands of signatures.
It's supposed to be a mandatory TEN years for amounts of drugs worth TEN thousand or more.
This GUY was caught with FIFTY thousand worth, plus all the sales and dealing paraphernalia:
Sentence?
TWO years.
Now that's some mitigation.
He was in full-time employment, while he was also a drug addict.
He was dealing drugs in the community and wants to serve part of his sentence in the community. 8)


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Re: Taxi driver can't escape long arm of the law
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2024, 10:40:53 am »
Immigrant(s)?
If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

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Re: Taxi driver can't escape long arm of the law
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2024, 06:06:35 pm »
Taxi man drove off as garda held on to car to apprehend fleeing suspect, court told

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A taxi driver drove off as a garda held onto his car and attempted to apprehend a fleeing suspect who had got into the passenger seat, a court has heard.  Neville Griffin (49) “panicked” but stopped the car within seconds after the garda fell to the road.  Lawyers for Griffin said the offence was reckless, momentary and no serious harm was caused.  Griffin of Kippure Park, Finglas, pleaded guilty at Dublin Circuit Criminal Court to endangerment at River Road, Dublin 7 on January 3, 2021. He has five previous convictions.  Judge Martin Nolan adjourned sentencing until Monday, remanding Griffin on bail over the weekend. A victim impact statement was handed into Judge Nolan but not read in open court.

Detective Garda Selina Proudfoot told Derek Cooney BL, prosecuting, that on the day gardai were involved in the pursuit of a motor vehicle unconnected to Griffin around Finglas. The car stopped at Scribblestown Road and the three occupants took off running.  Gda Proudfoot said the injured garda was pursuing one of the males who scaled a wall onto River Road. The garda followed and he saw the man get into a passing taxi. He caught up with the taxi which had the window open, stating that he was a gardai.  The garda grabbed a hold of the passenger with one hand and the taxi door with his other hand. The taxi took off and the garda let go of the man but continued to hold onto the car.  The garda believed the driver would stop but when they did not he had to let go and fell onto the road. He heard another car coming behind and rolled onto the grass verge believing he would be run over, but it was garda colleagues in the car coming behind him.  The taxi driver, Griffin, stopped a short distance away. He told a garda who caught up with him that he did not know the young male, had panicked on seeing the garda as he did not want to get involved and just wanted to get away.  The garda received medical treatment and was sent home with anti-inflammatories. He was out of work for seven weeks, felt pain in his legs and was limping.

The court heard the garda was at the time playing Gaelic for his county and had been due to resume training but could not do that.  Gda Proudfoot agreed with Cathal McGreal BL, defending, that the distance between picking up the male and dropping him off was short and took less than 28 seconds.  She agreed Griffin has been in no trouble since and expressed apologies and remorse on several occasions. In interview Griffin told gardai that he had told the young man to get out when he realised what was happening. He said he had panicked and did not want to get involved.

Mr McGreal said his client was a family man who was a “rock” to those around him. He said in the intervening time since his prior offences in 2011, he had lived a good life and kept out of trouble. He handed in testimonials speaking to Griffin’s good character.  He said Griffin had caused a minor injury to the gardai by a stupid and reckless act that took a moment. He said the harm caused was not serious but the consequences were different to the harm.  He said the consequences for the victim had been unintended and his client should not be punished for unintended results.  Judge Nolan said if a gardai was holding onto the door and you did not stop, it was foreseeable that if you accelerated, away injuries may ensue. “No one knows if they will be serious or minor,” he said.  Mr McGreal said the injuries had not been serious and the offence was momentary.

Judge Nolan said he would give his decision on Monday.

Garda:  I was off work for 7 weeks
Solicitor:  Ah it wasn't that bad!


The boards.ie posters (& Wiki* it seems) are very critical about the ex-Garda Judge Nolan because he's considered too lenient.  Should be interesting to see the result on Monday!




* Wiki:
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Controversies: Judge Nolan has attracted controversy for the perceived leniency of some of the sentences he has passed. An online petition to remove him from the bench attracted thousands of signatures.
It's supposed to be a mandatory TEN years for amounts of drugs worth TEN thousand or more.
This GUY was caught with FIFTY thousand worth, plus all the sales and dealing paraphernalia:
Sentence?
TWO years.
Now that's some mitigation.
He was in full-time employment, while he was also a drug addict.
He was dealing drugs in the community and wants to serve part of his sentence in the community. 8)
Judge Martin Nolan [ex-Garda], has a hard-on to dismantle the hard work done by Garda Síochana.

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Re: Taxi driver can't escape long arm of the law
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2024, 06:14:48 pm »
It's a philosophical disagreement between the Govt and the judges.  The Govt said 10yrs "except in exceptional circumstances".  The judges said, 'hang on, we do the sentencing' and so they use the 'exceptional' clause a lot just to remind the Govt they're a separate but equal branch of the Government.
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Re: Taxi driver can't escape long arm of the law
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2024, 06:18:28 pm »
It's a philosophical disagreement between the Govt and the judges.  The Govt said 10yrs "except in exceptional circumstances".  The judges said, 'hang on, we do the sentencing' and so they use the 'exceptional' clause a lot just to remind the Govt they're a separate but equal branch of the Government.
Who appoints the judges? The Government via the President.
https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/4ca11-nominations-to-the-high-court-and-the-circuit-court/#

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Re: Taxi driver can't escape long arm of the law
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2024, 06:34:32 pm »
The Constitution supports a system of government with three separate branches of government:
Legislature, Executive and Judiciary. Each has separate and distinct powers. The Legislature
passes the law, the Executive puts it into operation and the Judiciary interprets it. This concept is
known as 'the separation of powers'.

By spreading the power of government among these three branches one branch is unlikely to
dominate the other two. If one branch of government had all the power it could lead to an abuse of
freedom and rights.

It is a fundamental principle of a separation of powers that the three branches of government remain
separate and independent. For example, judges must at all times be free of government influence
when they go about their business of interpreting law in the courts.



https://www.courts.ie/view/document/dd2930a0-eadf-4d7b-bf6c-b5660625c523/Teacher%27s%20Note%20-%20Separation%20of%20Powers.pdf/pdf
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