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Uber to sponsor taxi shortage campaign along with BOLT
« on: February 21, 2024, 11:37:56 pm »
Taxi shortages: ‘A guy in here only last weekend had to walk six or seven kilometres home at 2am’
Problems getting taxis in the west of Ireland are putting people off socialising, say business owners, while drivers decry recent rule introductions



Terry McTiernan says the age profile of taxi drivers is older and the sector should be 'opened up'. Photograph: Brian Farrell
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When Geraldine Lavelle worked at the Atlantic Technological University in Sligo, she regularly opted to manoeuvre her wheelchair home, a trek that could take 40 minutes, especially if she was battling wind and rain.

“It was better than sitting around not knowing when a taxi would come,” says the artist and writer, who has been paralysed from the chest down since 2013 when a truck knocked her off her bicycle.

This disability rights campaigner has a different perspective than those who believe the “chronic shortage” of taxis is partly due to the requirement since 2010, that all new small public service vehicles (SPSVs), including taxis, hackneys and limousines, must be wheelchair accessible.


Disability rights campaigner Geraldine Lavelle. Photograph: Michael McLaughlin
It is just one factor highlighted by a lobby group, the Taxis for Ireland Coalition, formed late last year in response to what they say is the damage being done to the late-night economy by a shortage of taxis nationwide.


The coalition, which includes vintners’ groups, the Restaurants Association of Ireland (RAI) and taxi-hailing companies Bolt and Uber, says a recent survey shows seven out of 10 people across Ireland find it difficult to get home from pubs and restaurants in their area.

The taxi regulator, the National Transport Authority (NTA), found in a survey, in May 2023, that of more than 1,000 urban and rural taxi users, 81 per cent reported finding it easy (under 15 minutes) to get a taxi.


But Leitrim nightclub owner Kenny Murtagh knows people who have walked long distances home in the early hours after nights out in Carrick-on-Shannon. “A guy in here only last weekend had to walk six or seven kilometres home at two o’clock in the morning,” he says.

The problem getting taxis is putting people off socialising, says Murtagh, who imagines Carrick’s problems are “like every town in the country”.

The other side of it is, taxi drivers can get frustrated because the ones that are working are under so much pressure they can’t be hanging around for someone who says ‘I’ll just finish my pint’

—  Sligo hotel manager Graeme Semple
Mags Downey Martin has a selection of taxi numbers in her phone but “at least half of them are obsolete” because so many drivers never returned after the Covid lockdowns.

The chief executive of Ballina Chamber of Commerce has been told by those in the sector that taxi numbers locally are down 40 per cent since 2022. She and her husband are lucky because walking home at night from the town centre takes them only 20 minutes.

“As safe as Ballina is,” she says, she would not walk home alone. “A certain demographic are opting to socialise at home rather than go out and have to worry about getting home.” Those who do go out at night must be “shrewd” about the time they leave, she says. “You have to be gone between 12 and one o’clock. Wait until 2.30am at your peril.”



Derek Leonard runs Harrison’s bar in Ballina, which made international headlines when Joe Biden visited in 2017. The US president is beaming in the photographs captured that day but Leonard says many of his older clientele are less relaxed because of worries about getting home.



“They come in at 8pm and they are so stressed out they are gone before 11pm,” says the publican.

Graeme Semple, deputy general manager at the Sligo Park Hotel says receptionists and night porters often bear the brunt of the taxi shortage as guests can get irate if there’s a delay.

“A lot of people who fly in for weddings might have to leave the hotel at 4.30am or 5am to make a return flight from Knock, and it can be tricky getting taxis then,” he says. As well as hosting weddings, the Sligo Park often accommodates those attending functions at out-of-town venues such as Markree Castle and Castle Dargan Hotel.

“Unless there is a bus put on for them they can be trickling through the door up to 5am because there might only be one of two taxis working,” he says.

“It is always tricky around closing time as drivers may pick and choose what trips they are going to do,” he says. “And the other side of it is taxi drivers can get frustrated because the ones that are working are under so much pressure they can’t be hanging around for someone who says ‘I’ll just finish my pint’ when they have a backlog of calls.”


Graeme Semple, deputy general manager in the Sligo Park Hotel. Photograph: Brian Farrell
Terry McTiernan (76) has been in the taxi business in Sligo for 51 years and agrees that the cost of getting into the sector can be a disincentive, even with the maximum grant of €17,500 for a wheelchair accessible taxi.


“The 10-year rule was criminal,” he says, explaining that taxis now have to be taken off the road at 10 years. Having paid €84,000 for a Mercedes Estate E380 in 2008, it galls him to see the car “still going around Sligo in mint condition” a long time after he had to get rid of it. “The taxi regulator says: 10 years, car off the road, good luck and goodbye.”

And while he got a €20,000 grant when he got an electric car, a Volkswagen ID.4, he had to scrap a car and transfer the licence. What hurt him more was that Volkswagen dropped the price of the car by €12,500 since he got it, so his outlay of €43,000 could have been just €30,500 if his timing was better.

The owner of three taxis and two chauffeur-driven cars still works 12-13 hour days but agrees it can be lucrative “if you put in the hours”.

Paul O’Donnell who runs Thomas Connolly’s, Sligo’s oldest pub, says that so many taxi drivers never returned after Covid and it has had an impact on his business, as customers – especially those who need babysitters – can’t take a chance.

“Emigration is also a factor. Some of the younger lads headed off to Australia and Canada. And the costs of getting into the business are astronomical, because if you get a taxi it has to be wheelchair accessible.”

[ Lobby group calls for action on ‘chronic shortage’ of taxis across country ]

The publican is thankful for the extension of the Local Link bus service.


“People come in early at 5 or 6pm for a drink and then out for a meal. They can get back on the bus around 11.30pm, so it is not a bad night.”

As a veteran in the industry, Terry McTiernan doesn’t have a wheelchair accessible vehicle but says while some of those who do “provide an excellent service”, others seem to give preference to non-wheelchair users.

“It is time consuming. You have to get out, open the back door, lower your ramp, get the wheelchair up, then secure the wheelchair,” he says.

He also believes some with wheelchair-accessible vehicles have a higher rate for passengers in wheelchairs. “I think that is a little bit of discrimination against someone who is disabled.”

Figures highlighted by campaigners show a dramatic dip in SPSVs (small public-service vehicles) operating nationally from 21,900 in 2013, at a time when the population has increased sharply.

The most recent figures from the NTA show that on January 31st there were 19,774 licensed SPSVs, 10,496 of them in Dublin.


A spokesman for the regulator says the 26,360 taxi drivers licensed nationally represents 97 per cent of pre-Covid levels while the number in Dublin “now exceeds pre-Covid levels”. The number of licensed SPSVs is now at 93 per cent of pre-Covid levels after a “hugely improved influx into the industry ravaged by Covid”, with 896 SMSVs added to the fleet in 2023.

We are very clear that any new taxis or hackneys would have to be Garda vetted and would need a licence - but it should be easier to get a licence

—  Adrian Cummins of the Restaurants Association of Ireland
A recent report commissioned by Bolt, which introduced its taxi-hailing app to Ireland in 2020, found 43 per cent of trips requested by customers in Dublin went unfulfilled during peak times while the figure was higher in Cork, at 56 per cent.

The NTA said only about 5,000 of the 26,360 drivers licensed nationwide were affiliated with the Bolt and Uber apps “and, of course, drivers can choose whether or not to answer app requests when there is lots of work on the street, for which they don’t have to pay up to 15 per cent commission”.

In a November 2023 report, Bolt highlighted Ireland’s “largely inflexible” SPSVs regime and urged a rethink on issues like the wheelchair accessible rule, rigid taxi fares and rules governing drivers using apps who are licensed and dispatched as taxis by a central operator.

Adrian Cummins, chief executive of the RAI, says there has been “a lot of spin and scaremongering” about what the coalition is looking for. “We are very clear that any new taxis or hackneys would have to be Garda vetted and would need a licence – but it should be easier to get a licence.”

Having a wheelchair-accessible vehicle should be optional rather than mandatory, he says, and aspiring drivers should not need to do a geography test in an age when Google maps can bring you “right to the door”.

McTiernan agrees the age profile of taxi drivers is older and says the sector should be “opened up”.

“Anyone coming into the industry in Sligo I would go and shake their hand and wish them luck and tell them: If you work hard there is money to be made.”

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Re: Uber to sponsor taxi shortage campaign along with BOLT
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2024, 09:38:57 am »
We fucked

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Re: Uber to sponsor taxi shortage campaign along with BOLT
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2024, 11:50:37 am »
Ok A few Questions .Would people with disabilities be willing to give up their transport grants in favour of more WAVs ?

Rideshare is allowing anybody with a car to pick up for reward .Do people really want that ?

Pubs are dieing because Kids do drugs not because they cannot get a taxi .I transport hundreds of Junkies a Year .Hotels are fucked because they want to gouge people whenever there is something on .Restaurants are fucked because 25 euro for a Burger a Chips is robbing the punters .The reason the HOSPITALITY Industry complain is because they think if there are trillions of taxis available at closing time they can hold on to their customers for longer .


Big Dommo had friends over from Uzbeckistan last week and they wanted to go for a Gargle and then pick up a few Whores and get some Coke .A typical Dublin Tourist weekend they got fucked twice with Drugs and Whores but trying to find a Pub open in Dublin City in the Morning is almost impossible .So thest pricks want us to provide a licenced service while they do no only opening afternoon or evening .Go Figure .
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Re: Uber to sponsor taxi shortage campaign along with BOLT
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2024, 12:55:40 pm »
Didn't all this happen before johnny ?
Remember in 2010  wen all them restaurants an pubs wer closing down an the poor cunts that left ther jobs in ther thousands to get a taxi wer stuck in town in taxi traffic jams beeping at each other an listenin to " ghost town " on the radio an not a soul out .....
Then do yu remember all the pub owners an restaurant owners wer toppin themselves? ...I remember a cople of cases of them walkin out of four courts after the judge left 1 penny in ther bank accounts an they drove off up the mountains , found a tree an swung out of ther toe rope ....
Then the taxi drivers started to do it ......nearly succumbed meself after buyin a house in 08 that is still cheaper today than wen I baut it .....wat a gobshite ...anyway
They all love to blame someone as yu so eloquently pointed out ....an everyone loves to hate taxi drivers ....
Uber has a huge turnover of drivers ....they all learn that ther gettin shafted eventually cause they don't understand
 The Costs or choose to ignore untill eventually they get a pain in ther bollix ...
The state of the countries economy is a much bigger worry than uber .....verooka is going to bankrupt ireland ...
Tourism is being  decimated wit  hotels bein turned inta  "direct provision centers  " an small businesses  closing down all over rural ireland .....the tech companies are still laying off an lookin elsewhere  an ther employees cant afford the rents ...the brain drain is in full flight again wit yung doctors , engineers etcetera headin off to somewhere wer thers hope an our social welfare system which is the most generous in the world is attracting roma
Gypsies an Algerians that have no intention of ever working a day in ther life ......from celtic tiger to  celtic gobshite all over again .....
Poor cnuts  ::sleep

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Re: Uber to sponsor taxi shortage campaign along with BOLT
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2024, 02:37:14 pm »
If Uber had a good app maybe more drivers would use it.
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Re: Uber to sponsor taxi shortage campaign along with BOLT
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2024, 03:09:21 pm »
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But Leitrim nightclub owner Kenny Murtagh knows people who have walked long distances home in the early hours after nights out in Carrick-on-Shannon. “A guy in here only last weekend had to walk six or seven kilometres home at two o’clock in the morning,” he says.

And the other 999 people in the nightclub? 

Why not nip the problem at the bud?  Maybe nightclubs should be banned altogether if they leave people in such a vulnerable position late at night?
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Re: Uber to sponsor taxi shortage campaign along with BOLT
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2024, 04:09:24 pm »
We fucked

Nothing new in any of it. Jim Waldron has been calling for more drivers and campaigning for lower entry costs since 2017/8, long before COVID '19.

I'm sure you remember, but just to jog the less reliable memories out there:

https://www.psv.ie/taxi-magazine-february-march-2018-edition/ - page 33 Article entitled "400 Less Cabbies in the last year"
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“Many people from trades in the construction sector became taxi drivers when building work dried up and they are now going back to their old jobs as they are providing more regular work and pensions” Mr. Waldron said.

He claimed that the cost for new entrants to the industry was prohibitive as first-time applicants had to buy wheelchair accessible taxis which are considerably more expensive than standard vehicles

To be fair to Waldron, Bolt, Uber et al the cost of entry has further increased quite significantly on foot of Brexit and I guess it's fair to question why new entrants - many of whom are first generation immigrants who may not be fluent in ENGLISH - should need to demonstrate significantly greater knowledge than incumbents.

Despite national recruitment drives on the part of NTA and international recruitment and traihning programmes run by it's advisor, Free Now, we still have a situation where Free Now demands fares well in excess of the national maximum taximeter fare set by NTA at so-called peak times... noting that such surge pricing isn't restricted to pub closing times and is, in fact, prevalent throughout weekend afternoons/evenings. All this while we also read reports of drivers forced to rent taxis and sleep in homeless shelters.
If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

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Re: Uber to sponsor taxi shortage campaign along with BOLT
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2024, 08:37:32 pm »
We fucked

Nothing new in any of it. Jim Waldron has been calling for more drivers and campaigning for lower entry costs since 2017/8, long before COVID '19.

I'm sure you remember, but just to jog the less reliable memories out there:

https://www.psv.ie/taxi-magazine-february-march-2018-edition/ - page 33 Article entitled "400 Less Cabbies in the last year"
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“Many people from trades in the construction sector became taxi drivers when building work dried up and they are now going back to their old jobs as they are providing more regular work and pensions” Mr. Waldron said.

He claimed that the cost for new entrants to the industry was prohibitive as first-time applicants had to buy wheelchair accessible taxis which are considerably more expensive than standard vehicles

To be fair to Waldron, Bolt, Uber et al the cost of entry has further increased quite significantly on foot of Brexit and I guess it's fair to question why new entrants - many of whom are first generation immigrants who may not be fluent in ENGLISH - should need to demonstrate significantly greater knowledge than incumbents.

Despite national recruitment drives on the part of NTA and international recruitment and traihning programmes run by it's advisor, Free Now, we still have a situation where Free Now demands fares well in excess of the national maximum taximeter fare set by NTA at so-called peak times... noting that such surge pricing isn't restricted to pub closing times and is, in fact, prevalent throughout weekend afternoons/evenings. All this while we also read reports of drivers forced to rent taxis and sleep in homeless shelters.
Doesn't Jim Waldron's boss OXO Humphrey rent out at least a dozen taxis through the NPHTA? I doubt if the so-called union is a not-for-profit organisation.

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Re: Uber to sponsor taxi shortage campaign along with BOLT
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2024, 11:01:32 am »
Christopher had 20 odd but transferred about half of them to Dean before the ban on officially transferring plates was introduced. 15 showing now between them, for the most part rented to immigrants, many of whom look like single men of fighting / (child) raping age:



Obviously (or maybe not to the post-dereg scum amongst us) Christopher was party to taking the case that led to entry liberalisation back in 1999 hence seeking a return to the Laissez-faire regime that he won back then is wholly consistent with his viewpoint. IIRC, when the Kathleen Doyle entry test was introduced Jim Waldron sat and failed the same, presumably not merely to prove his incompetence as a taxi driver but with a view to highlighting the fact that the test was introduced as an artificial barrier to entry... given that DAA is the only (local) authority that is allowed to regulate numbers based on infrastructural constraints.
If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2024, 02:23:19 pm »
Christopher had 20 odd but transferred about half of them to Dean before the ban on officially transferring plates was introduced. 15 showing now between them, for the most part rented to immigrants, many of whom look like single men of fighting / (child) raping age:



Obviously (or maybe not to the post-dereg scum amongst us) Christopher was party to taking the case that led to entry liberalisation back in 1999 hence seeking a return to the Laissez-faire regime that he won back then is wholly consistent with his viewpoint. IIRC, when the Kathleen Doyle entry test was introduced Jim Waldron sat and failed the same, presumably not merely to prove his incompetence as a taxi driver but with a view to highlighting the fact that the test was introduced as an artificial barrier to entry... given that DAA is the only (local) authority that is allowed to regulate numbers based on infrastructural constraints.
There is probably a good income scouting for young boys still, and supplying them to UK clubs. I doubt if Jim has the time with all the driving, representing, and renting he does, but sure, who knows?

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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2024, 02:36:32 pm »
Ironically, he once claimed to be opposed to double jobbing!
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« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2024, 11:01:58 pm »
Oxo isn't republican he was shunned by the old guys for a reason
His family are connected to OTHER businesses it is alleged
Dunno if it true
But I won't say hello to him

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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2024, 10:45:15 pm »
Bullshit article full of lies.

one town mentioned in it, there are actually too many taxis available, no shortage whatsoever.

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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2024, 10:52:40 pm »
McTiernan agrees the age profile of taxi drivers is older and says the sector should be “opened up”.


do they think all older taxi drivers will die and not be replaced?

maybe the 30 year olds will become taxi drivers when they hit 40 or 50, like others have done in the past.

it is like a lot of bus drivers are elderly, you aren't going to get loads of lads in their 20s driving taxis, they are too busy drinking in overpriced pubs and nightclubs but they might consider it when in their 30's, 40's, 50s' etc

them ejits walking home at 2 am are probably after pissing themselves, puking on themselves, have no money for a taxi, too abusive with taxi drivers.
« Last Edit: February 24, 2024, 11:00:51 pm by taxi1990 »

 


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