MG5 top gear review

[mercenary for hire]

Most of my charging is between 2am and 4am on the electric Ireland night boost thingy(Currently about 10 cent per kWh) now and whatever else it needs on the night tariff (about 18c per kWh).My battery is rarely lower than 70% after a shift so it doesn't need a whole lot to get back to 100%.Maybe 20~22Kwh

My gaff pays a little bit extra during the day but we really don't use that much anyway so it's still far cheaper overall to take the cheap rate for the car in my situation.I reckon it's costing no more than €3 euro per shift.

All the lights in the gaff are LEDs and the kitchen uses a bit but it's really not that much.

If your paying 30c per kilowatt it's not much cheaper than running a Prius IMO.If I had your money lads I'd burn me own.

[watty]

@JohnM - if you've already installed a smart charger, I think technically you can't apply for the SEAI grant.  I think you apply for the grant first and then get it installed.

To get the SEAI grant, the electrician has to be registered on the Safe Electric website.  Plus a lot of 'local' sparks don't want the hassle of the SEAI paperwork. 

And of course, the Safe Electric electricians know you're €600 of a grant in your back pocket so the price goes up.  Fecking gangsters 

[John m]

@JohnM - if you've already installed a smart charger, I think technically you can't apply for the SEAI grant.  I think you apply for the grant first and then get it installed.

To get the SEAI grant, the electrician has to be registered on the Safe Electric website.  Plus a lot of 'local' sparks don't want the hassle of the SEAI paperwork. 

And of course, the Safe Electric electricians know you're €600 of a grant in your back pocket so the price goes up.  Fecking gangsters 

Crowd doing the job will fill in the forms .

[watty]

Looks like the grant is only €300 now   

People laugh when I say they're all gangsters...  They write the rules to benefit themselves 

https://www.seai.ie/grants/electric-vehicle-grants/electric-vehicle-home-charger-grant/
- Do not commence any work before the start date on your Letter of Offer otherwise this expenditure will be deemed ineligible and you will not receive grant support for it.
- The work can only be performed by a fully qualified electrician who is registered accordingly with Safe Electric Ireland.

[silverbullet]

Bullit be on giving out about him Ken in SKAN in Cabra a gent and does quality work neat and tidy .

Did Ken in Skan do the meter change over, or did you get a new fangled mirror meter?

I would have gone the same road as yourself with the EV charger, but I still have to get the house upgrade.

I'm waiting on clearance from the CU. 

The CU seem to only consider covering the €20,000 bridging loan AFTER you purchase the car. Sheesh!

Happy motoring with the new car.

[C5]

Charge your external combustion engine as far away from your house as possible. Your house insurance might rise now too.

[John m]

Bullit be on giving out about him Ken in SKAN in Cabra a gent and does quality work neat and tidy .

Did Ken in Skan do the meter change over, or did you get a new fangled mirror meter?

I would have gone the same road as yourself with the EV charger, but I still have to get the house upgrade.

I'm waiting on clearance from the CU. 

The CU seem to only consider covering the €20,000 bridging loan AFTER you purchase the car. Sheesh!

Happy motoring with the new car.

Changeover it was a newish mirror meter .Silver you dont need to rewire a whole house .If you can get motoring for 15K use on street like Watty car comes with a three pin plug in slooooooow charger you can plug in beside the telly get you enough poke to get to on street charger .The Grim Reaper is not to far behind us so can you really justify putting big coin into a car or rewiring and justify it .If you are over this side of town drop in and you can take my thing for a spin .We will get Rapppppppppid chargers in a few years and both our cars and home chargers will be obsolete like a Nokia .Dont waste real money on imaginary technology .Think of it this way even if on street costs a bit more than home charging you are still in a new car for 15K and still probably cheaper to run than the hybrid.

[Belker]

Thanks Hal .Went for a BG Sync EV (Un-tethered I dont have solar pannels or special rate so no Zappi needed ......

Why did you go Untethered ?

[John m]

Thanks Hal .Went for a BG Sync EV (Un-tethered I dont have solar pannels or special rate so no Zappi needed ......

Why did you go Untethered ?

Car came with a  lead so dont need one .they look for about a ton and a half more if it comes with a lead ..Like I said to Bullit the tech will move rapidly new battries and special chargers you will be able to full charge in minutes .VCR recorders .Compact Discs mobile phones .Two year old is out of date .I think home chargers will be obsolete in two years .They will have super chargers Most people on earth do not have drive ins at home live in appartments so to serve them is the aim not lads with off street parking .Imagine you and your hen both with Evs needing to charge from home its a nightmare so on street or forecourt rapit charge is the future .

[Belker]

I think your making a mistake by not installing the proper tethered home charger fer the sake of 699.

[John m]

I think your making a mistake by not installing the proper tethered home charger fer the sake of 699.

I think you might be mixed up Ken Tethered means it comes with a charging lead permently attached .I have a removeable lead that you use to power up from your home charger or on street charger it comes with the car .

[C5]

@john m, EV lithium batteries cannot take rapid charging all the time because of the heat generated pushing that much power into a small box basically. The battery's life will be cut in half and your advised not to plug an EV to a rapid charger after a long drive to plug it in after 30 mins when it has cooled down enough to lower the risk of overheating and fire.

[mercenary for hire]

The technology has improved a fair bit C5.

All the new batteries are liquid cooled.In fact the Lithium batteries in the Chinese cars take a lot of abuse.Watty on here mostly uses faster chargers and so far has had minimal degradation AFAIK.I'm not saying they're gonna last 500000km but they should last as long as you need to keep the taxi.The cooling systems kick in while you're fast charging to keep the temperatures down.

For 15k after grants it only needs to last 5 years.I doubt John will even have 150000km on his by that stage.

Dublin is full of electric taxis.So far we haven't had the mass failures or fires that were predicted.

[watty]

Yeah, the battery management system keeps an eye on things.  And I/the software 'balances the battery' every month so all the chemicals are put back in the right place (hard core tech explanation!). 

As MfH says, I fast charge all the time and am losing about 1% battery a year.  In practical terms, that means that after 5 years, my MG5 will go ~300km instead of the original ~350km.  Since I almost never do more than 150km per shift, I should be alright.

[C5]

It's early days to make a call on there quality. I'll be watching, yer the Guinea pigs for me. I know of 3 people who have thrown in the towel on them. The 3 of them didn't pass 250,000 kms, that's not good.