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Offline John m

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Ev charging up there
« on: May 05, 2024, 09:35:14 am »
Visited Belfast this week trying to recharge an EV is bollox.None of the charging stations would accept a Euro based Debit card .My network 12.99 a month you get what you pay for so roaming not working so could not download any app to use Norn Iron Car chargers and they dont accept cash .Had to get a Native willing to take cash in return for paying with their card .The range on the car is eaten up rapidly at 120 Km per hour .Just lets you know EVs are unrealistic out side of the Big Cities .

I asked Chat GPT a question .

Can a fully charged EV be used to charge another vehicle by discharging some of its energy to another vehicle .
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Yes, it's technically possible to use one electric vehicle (EV) to charge another by discharging some of its energy, but it's not a common feature in consumer EVs at the moment. This process is called vehicle-to-vehicle (V2V) charging or vehicle-to-load (V2L) charging.

Some newer electric vehicles, especially those with bidirectional charging capabilities, might have the potential to discharge energy to power other devices or even charge another electric vehicle. However, this feature isn't widespread yet, and even if it exists in some models, it might be limited in its capabilities or require additional equipment.

V2V charging has some practical challenges, including compatibility issues between different EV models, safety concerns, and the potential impact on the discharging vehicle's battery life. But as technology advances and infrastructure develops, we might see more widespread adoption of V2V charging in the future.





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Re: Ev charging up there
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2024, 04:21:42 pm »
My heap has V2L and I've seen videos of them charging another vehicle but it would be as slow as the three pin plug chargers.

Keep it under 100km and the battery will last a lot longer.

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Re: Ev charging up there
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2024, 05:39:00 pm »
I was in the north last week stuck the nozzle in the tank got me fill of diesel paid with card no problems, I tells ya, ya can't beat liquid fuel so reliable :)

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Re: Ev charging up there
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2024, 06:25:43 pm »
1. Things have gotten better up North but, in the bad old days, people used to charge in Castlebellingham (I think) before they crossed the border.  I *think* MG even fixed the problems with Tesla chargers and you could use those in Castlebellingham as well.

2. Ecars - https://esb.ie/what-we-do/ecars/faqs

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I plan to travel to Northern Ireland - What do I do?
If you are an existing customer registered in Ireland and plan to travel to Northern Ireland, your charging in Northern Ireland will be billed in euro. Please refer to the charge point map or the ecar connect app to get specific euro pricing. If you have not signed up to use the public charging network, we recommend you sign up here.

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Do I need to cards to charge in both north and south or will one card work?
One card will work across the full network.

3. Use the app Plugshare to filter for Belfast, CCS and contactless payment?

4. Google says Dublin -- Belfast is 140km away.  There's a 10 min difference between doing it at 110 km/hr and 120 km/hr but your battery will last much longer at 110 km/hr.
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Re: Ev charging up there
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2024, 09:42:53 pm »
You should have been able to do the whole trip without needing a top-up in Belfast.  You just have to think about things a little differently from a diesel.

Say it's 300 km round trip to Belfast.  Chances are you'll be doing ~20 kW/100 km on the motorway so that's ~60 kW for the whole trip.  The MG5 usable battery is around 57 kW so you'll need a little top somewhere along the line.  Topping up at Castlebellingham (Applegreen or maybe Tesla) at the border on either leg of the journey is an option.  Or there's (expensive) Ionity chargers at 'City North Hotel' near Julianstown or Applegreen at Lusk on the return leg.

I mentioned the Plugshare app already.  Another one is ABRP which you can choose how many stops etc you want to make.

It's sad that we still have to plan a little bit when making intercity journeys but things are getting better.  Applegreen and CircleK are rolling out chargers at a good clip.
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Re: Ev charging up there
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2024, 08:27:37 am »
I limit my charge to 90% .My big issue was with my phone as my roaming was non existent .I changed to 48 for 12.99 a month works great down South but no good when you go out of state .So no phone no apps then none of the chargers took  Euro denominated debit cards only Credit cards .Some chargers up there are ESB but I could not access the app as I had no coverage on my phone .The network of chargers is OK on the motorway but if you got a job from Dublin to Roscommon or Sligo .You would need to plan your journey properly and if one charger was down you could be in a bit of bother .

Doing the sums I am paying about 4.3 cent per Km driven Diesel use to be around 10c So big savings on fuel .If you take in the fuel savings and the increased insurance as the car is more valuable than the old one and say service charge less servicing more tyres equal out .I recon the car is costing me about 40 euro a week to buy over 4 years .VOTE GREEN you know it makes sense .
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Re: Ev charging up there
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2024, 12:27:01 pm »
My brother and mother use that 48 network. As an early adopter the brother pays €7.99/month so you're being robbed! However, it works in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. In fact, mother is an immigrant who frequently visits her homeland on the mainland. I recall accompanying her on one such visit and being given instructions from the brother on how to make mother's telephone work for her. IIRC, you go into roaming or "when abroad" on the phone or sim settings and change network selection to automatic - if it's already on automatic change it to manual and back again. Apparently that has to be done on every visit and may need to be repeated on return. Also, to make t'internet work you may need to add/edit the APN. That wasn't necessary on Mother's phone but may have been done previously, It's simple enough anyway: Settings -> Mobile Network / SIM -> Access Point Names -> select the one that reads 48months.liffeytelecom.com if it exists, otherwise add one with the same leaving all other fields as default or blank.

You'll find more comprehensive / Android version specific instructions by searching 48 Network roaming or some such.
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Re: Ev charging up there
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2024, 12:32:47 pm »
I also found the APN (internet) bit necessary on Mrs. Catcher's Android on a Tesco Mobile SIM in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland but, strangely enough, not necessary with my own Android on Tesco Mobile. For Tesco Mobile the required APN is tescomobile.liffeytelecom.com
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Re: Ev charging up there
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2024, 09:34:38 am »
I'v a pain in me head after reading all that Stephen !   lol   

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Re: Ev charging up there
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2024, 12:20:00 pm »
Buddy of mine relies on McDonalds free wi-fi and uses Whats App when travelling in UK !

Me I just pay too much @20 month

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Re: Ev charging up there
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2024, 12:36:46 pm »
I forgot to top up my mobile a couple of months ago and because I had no data I couldn't top it up online so I was driving solo with no apps and no work.As I was on the way back to the gaff I got free internet of a Bus eireann bus going up the NCR and topped up that way.

Only afterwards I realised I probably could have bought Vodafone credit in the Spar but it's been so long since I did it I forgot.

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Re: Ev charging up there
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2024, 12:55:13 pm »
Goint through bills and stuff .I noticed we were still paying for a landline with our Virgin TV and Internet .Gave them a ring to stop that .I wonder how many of us are paying for stuff we no longer use .Especially through standing orders !
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Re: Ev charging up there
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2024, 07:49:18 pm »
Buddy of mine relies on McDonalds free wi-fi and uses Whats App when travelling in UK !

Me I just pay too much @20 month
GOMO - €15.00 per month. I used it on roaming through Switzerland. Faultless.

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Re: Ev charging up there
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2024, 04:12:49 pm »
I'v a pain in me head after reading all that Stephen !   lol   

It's easier than it looks, Ken. It took me less than a minute to do mummy's.
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Re: Ev charging up there
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2024, 08:18:48 am »
I'v a pain in me head after reading all that Stephen !   lol   

It's easier than it looks, Ken. It took me less than a minute to do mummy's.
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When the big IT thing/internet/moblies kicked off in the mid ninties to mid noughties, you learned all your stuff yourself as it developed over the years, I didn't !, back then we had people that did all that fer us and when I did have to venture in to it all on my own in 2010 I was already 15 years in field testing experience behind the rest of ye.

 


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