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READ THIS VERY CAREFULLY
« on: July 31, 2024, 09:44:14 am »
https://www.newstalk.com/news/gardai-putting-photojournalists-in-extreme-danger-by-demanding-riot-photos-1750401  Now imagine you record something outside your car and are Summonsed to court as a withness .Mandatory CCTV in Taxis is not a Good Idea it is a Facist Government spying on its People add in the new HATE law  and Hitler would be Proud of the Black Shirts .These Journalists see whats occuring .If they think they will be attacked they wont record the events .Now who does that help .?No media coverage ?
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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2024, 09:45:37 am »
Gardaí are putting photojournalists in “extreme danger” by demanding that they hand over images taken during riots and civil unrest, according to one of Ireland’s leading photo agencies.

Gardaí have asked the RollingNews agency to hand over all photos taken at the protests in Coolock earlier this month.

The agency’s editor Eamonn Farrell has shared his reply to the Gardaí publicly – noting it is the second time this year he has been asked to hand over photos.

His letter warns that photojournalists have been “intimidated, threatened, harassed, verbally abused and had their vehicles and registration numbers photographed” in recent months.

He said handing over images to Gardaí would “only enflame matters further and put the safety of visual journalists in further peril”.

“I find it odd that Gardaí are complaining of the level of danger their own members are in, and yet are prepared to put journalists' safety at risk by requesting that they become the eyes and ears of the State,” he wrote.

'Harassment, abuse, intimidation'
Speaking on The Pat Kenny Show today, Mr Farrell said Gardaí have now served a warrant for the photos – meaning RollingNews has no choice but to hand over the images.

He said photojournalists' jobs have become much more dangerous in recent months.

“[We're facing] harassment, abuse, intimidation, threats,” he said.

Scenes near Crown Paints after a fire was started in the building on Friday night after an earlier peaceful public meeting and march to the Coolock Garda Station, 20/07/2024 Image: Rolling NewsScenes near Crown Paints after a fire was started in the building on Friday night after an earlier peaceful public meeting and march to the Coolock Garda Station, 20/07/2024 Image: Rolling News
“Photographers’ photographs have been taken, their car registrations have been taken and put up on TikTok and other platforms.

“They have been put under incredible really, really incredible intimidation.”

Mr Farrell said the demand to share photos with Gardaí is simply putting a bigger target on photographer’s backs.

'The camera does lie'
Mr Farrell also noted that photographers take “hundreds” of pictures at each protest – but only some are shared by RollingNews to ensure accurate reporting.

“The camera does lie, that’s the reality,” he said.

“Sometimes the imagery that is taken, because it's taken with a particular lens can exaggerate what's happening.

“We edit them out to decide which ones, in the opinion of both the picture editor and the photographer, reflect what exactly happened.

“If we hand over all the images that the Gardaí are looking for, including the ones that haven't been edited, then the Gardaí are viewing those without the ability to objectively decide what actually reflects the reality of what happened on the day.”

A car burns on Parnell Street as members of the Garda Public Order Unit set up cordons on O'Connell Street and Parnell Street in Dublin, 23-11-23.A car burns on Parnell Street as members of the Garda Public Order Unit set up cordons on O'Connell Street and Parnell Street in Dublin, 23-11-23. Image: Sasko Lazarov / © RollingNews.ie
Mr Farrell said it seems clear Gardaí are not using bodycams correctly, and still have to use photos from the media when investigating.

“I guess the priority has been to supply the bodycams to the guards who are patrolling the streets on a normal day, instead of, in the first instance, making sure that the Gardaí who form part of the Public Order Units should have them,” he said.

“That’s where they are really necessary.”

He said it appeared Gardaí at protests in Coolock did not have bodycams and will continue to seek photos from journalists.

Separating State and media
Mr Farrell said photographers also handed over photos for investigations following the Dublin riot in November 2023.

Mr Farrell said continuing to ask media for photos will impact their ability to do their jobs safely.

“Just like the separation of Church and State, I believe that the separation of the State and free and independent press is important for democracy,” he said.

Garda Commissioner Drew Harris told Newstalk last week he has an “obligation and duty” to investigate criminal activity.

He said he has a “legal and legislative responsibility” to source all evidence and information possible – including through warrants.

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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2024, 09:58:06 am »
It's mad that the media would consider themselves excempt or blameless from any retaliation in these situations.Everytime I see some war correspondent or a cameraman in some dump getting a bullet I remind meself at least I dont do his job,that would be shit.It's absolutely pointless work.Dublin and even Ireland is way too small to be able to hide from this sort of retaliation.Running after some scruff to get a photo of him throwing a petrol bonb isn't deserving of any awards.

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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2024, 10:14:43 am »

– George Orwell

1984. Part 1, Chapter 1. Winston on the Big Brother poster, reminding people that they are under surveillance by cameras and listening devices.
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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2024, 10:25:02 am »
Merch .Lets say I drive into Big Dommos Flats with Young Thug and Sharon and Young Thug goes up to Razors Gaff and then Comes back .On the way out of the Flats Thin Blue Line Stops me asks where I been .I say mind your own business .This job is on my App and Covered by GDPR .I would be breaking the law if I replied to that Question .Now I get detained my car impounded as the Thin Blue go get a warrant to view my CCTV which would also be covered by GDPR .Anyhoo it turns out that the film shows Young Thug going to Razors and I am Summonsed to Court .Judge asks what I saw and Under oath I say Nothing Your honout because I dont take any notice .Then Judge asks is this your Video filmed from your car .I reply How would I know I already said I saw nothing so now you are asking me to view something I didnt see and confirm that I did in fact see it other wise I have to say No your honour I have no knowledge of that film .Now the Defense says this film cannot be verified .If they then call in the People who Monitor the Film to give evidence I will Sue them under the GDPR regulations for exposing my private information without my consent .Mandatory CCTV will not appear in Taxis in the Next million years as it will be contested by every civil liberties group in the Country .Its Facism spying on the Public at leisure monitoring conversations just because as sworn to in Court a few Girls get to drunk cannot take responsability for their Drinking .They were victims of a Vile piece of shit but they were not in a Position to defend themselves due to Alcohol abuse and nobody seems to see that as a contributory cause .If you murdered somebody when under the influence of Alcohol you could not use it as an excuse so why is it allowed as mitigation  in other cases .We are all responsible for how much we drink .Irish Society seems to reward drunken ness .Post somebody in the gutter spewing their ring and it gets likes and hero worshipped but not shamed .Strange relationship in this country with drink Pubs .Government bringing Presidents and Queens to Guinness Storehouse .
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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2024, 02:06:07 pm »
The only thing about cameras is, how many murders and other crimes have they solved? Loads. Only for the camera on the bus in London, the cop who killed Sarah Everard wouldn't have been caught, a serial killer in the making.
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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2024, 08:37:47 pm »
https://www.newstalk.com/news/gardai-putting-photojournalists-in-extreme-danger-by-demanding-riot-photos-1750401  Now imagine you record something outside your car and are Summonsed to court as a withness .Mandatory CCTV in Taxis is not a Good Idea it is a Facist Government spying on its People add in the new HATE law  and Hitler would be Proud of the Black Shirts .These Journalists see whats occuring .If they think they will be attacked they wont record the events .Now who does that help .?No media coverage ?
I read it VERY CAREFULLY, what a load of Utter Bollix !, to quote a teenage girl; "GET A LIFE" !!

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« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2024, 07:39:30 am »
https://www.newstalk.com/news/gardai-putting-photojournalists-in-extreme-danger-by-demanding-riot-photos-1750401  Now imagine you record something outside your car and are Summonsed to court as a withness .Mandatory CCTV in Taxis is not a Good Idea it is a Facist Government spying on its People add in the new HATE law  and Hitler would be Proud of the Black Shirts .These Journalists see whats occuring .If they think they will be attacked they wont record the events .Now who does that help .?No media coverage ?
I read it VERY CAREFULLY, what a load of Utter Bollix !, to quote a teenage girl; "GET A LIFE" !!

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« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2024, 08:26:35 am »
And Like I have been WARNING .THIS >>>>GARDA COMMISSIONER DREW Harris today admitted that a body worn camera (BWC) system, which is currently being piloted in garda divisions in Dublin and Limerick, is open to potential abuse by rogue Gardaí.
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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2024, 09:14:18 am »
Johnny ...we shud do a thread on wat to do wen stopped by the free state junta ....to be honest I don't know me rites ...an the way this country has decended into dictatorship the last few years ...I wouldn't feel safe bean stopped by them ....ther constantly in court for criminality ...some of it extremely serious and deeply worrying as ther seems no vetting system in place to become one .....
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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2024, 12:58:10 pm »
And Like I have been WARNING .THIS >>>>GARDA COMMISSIONER DREW Harris today admitted that a body worn camera (BWC) system, which is currently being piloted in garda divisions in Dublin and Limerick, is open to potential abuse by rogue Gardaí.

READ THIS REALLY REALLY CAREFULLY .The Protestand RUC man says he cannot controle a rogue element under his control  ROGUE GARDA .if they exist he failed and must go .No wonder the unions dont invite him to address them .

Back to on board CCTV Garda Commissioner admits it could be open to abuse by GARDA .And I am irrational when I pointed this out .
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« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2024, 05:46:16 pm »
When things like this come up, people excuse it away by saying there'll always be a bad apple or two in the barrel.  But afaik, the original meaning was that just one apple (so to speak) will tar and taint the whole barrel.  In other words, if you let in a bad Garda, it's too late and (s)he'll corrupt everyone else eventually.
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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2024, 05:58:57 pm »
I guess most are corrupt to some degree... corruption is part of our culture.
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« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2024, 06:51:53 pm »
I wonder how many Gardai regret their career choice & wish they'd done something else?  They always seem to be hanging around Spar-type shops when the bad guys try to rob them.
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