New-ish MG5s going cheap

[Belker]

I met an old colleague who works the Kesh and he was saying there's a decision on age rules due in the next couple of weeks.You may well get to keep the Skoda for a bit longer RC.Keep an eye out on the NTA site.

I can't see that happening MFH, I remember John m having an email go at the NTA about it recently and it fell on deaf ears. The NTA have had a hard-on fer the 10 year rule fer a long time.

[Octavia1]

Do you use the brakes on the Prius a few times a week to ward of corrosion and the calipers seizing incase of an emergency braking situation.

Nope c5 ... why wud I overtink tings?  Toyota doesn't make cars  for mechanics or DIY enthusiasts ..... I can tell by readin rat that he actually considers his taxi maintenance a very worthwile and enjoyable hobby .... firstly it gets him out of the house , sumtin to do  an to  make use  of the shed that took him a decade to build nobley occasionally assisted by johhny m ..secondly he thoroughly enjoys the learnin  , dissaassembly and reassembly process ( that mechano set he got for Chrismas did its job well ) ... thirdly
If he was to admit it ...he likes to get his hands dirty .. fourtly  ther is a  sense of achievement an fulfilment an contentment knowing that he can do something that his neighbours can't...
Fiftly.... he saves  huge amounts  of money ...
Sixthly .... the wife ide wager  loves the whole manliness of the site of rats legs stickin out from under his car ... speaking from experience most women are immensely turned on by the site of a rough bloke in dirty overalls wit oil streaks on his face painted like a rampaging  apache Indian  on the war path about to ravish a  defenceless  recently captured damsel.in distress   . an wit a smoke hangin from his lips lookin  like James Dean after he had his way wit Natalie wood in the drive tru movies ...

... but for me ... the taut of havin to put a spanner
In me hand an get dirty   honestly makes me feel
Full of dred ,  anxiety an depression....enough to send meself to the bed
 

[mercenary for hire]

Belker
"I can't see that happening MFH, I remember John m having an email go at the NTA about it recently and it fell on deaf ears. The NTA have had a hard-on fer the 10 year rule fer a long time."

Anything can happen.They told me there were no more extensions planned then they announced some after I put a deposit on a new car.Most of us on here are out of the loop but the lads in the Kesh seem to to know a lot more than they let on.

Don't believe it until you see it actually happen as the NTA emails aren't worth much.All they're doing is covering their holes until a decision is made.

The ten year saloon limit is completely made up and can be changed overnight.Nobody really benifts from it except the car industry.Cars haven't changed that much since I was a kid.With modern vehicles costing so much all it's doing is adding significantly to our expenses resulting in higher fares to the passengers.

[watty]

I dunno.  Think about where we're come from in, say, the last 10 years.  Back then, it was perfectly acceptable to buy a banger for a few grand and run it into the ground.  Passenger's expectations weren't really that high.  'Get me home on a Sat night' and anything else was a bonus.  Now, over 10% of the fleet are WAT's and a good chunk are EV or Priusssssss.  It's almost a modern, world class fleet?  The NTA might take the attitude that another push might get rid of the bangers and bump up the modern cars in the fleet?

The thing to remember is that the NTA don't give a sh1te about us.  They're bureaucrats and all they care about is their spreadsheets and fancy powerpoints that they can bring to all-expenses paid conferences around the world 

[mercenary for hire]

I have a nice jammer but I realise it still does the same thing as my first taxi fifteen years ago that only cost me two good weeks wages. The only thing that's changed is the materials in the car that the passengers see and feel.The new electric buses still feel like being in the bus but with USB ports.My new yoke still has wheel bearings and tyres to be changed and a faulty steering rack just like any other heap from the last thirty years.

The older diesels did sound very agricultural so I understand why the new yokes seem so different and futuristic but they're not worth the extra cost for the upgrade IMO.I still get scruffy fuks eating in the car.My car is too good for many of the inconsiderate shits I drive around.

There's a lot of lads who cover fairly big mileage who live a good distance from their work area who don't fit in to the EV life.I don't think anyone should be charging just to get home or finish a shift.This isn't really progress.Without the grants we'd all be driving hybrids.

[watty]

All true.  And it's worth adding that some think the new cat 6 diesels are the equal or even better than EV when you consider the whole life of the vehicle.

However, the NTA does vehicles and the Guards do drivers, more or less.  So the NTA probably doesn't care where you start etc.  And it's a long time since they promoted the purple dash badge of honour.  With so many EV's, Priusssss and WAT's added to the fleet recently, that bottom 10-20% of, say, 8yr old & older vehicles hanging around must be an itch on their arse that needs scratching.  It would certainly tidy up their spreadsheets and graphs.

[Rat Catcher]

I wouldn't disagree with any of your observations on my likes and dislikes, Octy. I do like to get my hands dirty from time to time and I do all sorts of DIY, learning (generally stuff of quite limited use) along the way is all part of the fun for me.

If your OCD extended to following Toyota specs you would have replaced your engine oil and filter 13 times, had 13 Hybrid Heath Checks, replaced your brake fluid 10 times, your pollen/AC filter 10 times, your air filter 5 times and your engine coolant once or twice in addition to the bits you mentioned. I'd hazard a guess that you've gone through a fair few litres of screenwash and possibly replaced the wiper blades given your desire for spotless windas, also. Add all that up and, employing mechanics to do the work, I doubt you'd get out for much less than the 1.3c/kilo my 8 year old MKIII Octy has cost to maintain since I acquired it. Then there's the Capital cost... I guess you're looking at c.€3,000k/year for the bought new Prius whereas my second hand Octy works out at c.€1,700/year... assuming both cars last until they're no longer acceptable to NTA under current regulations.

IIRC, NTAs excuse for complicating age extension provisions beyond belief was more to do with the Suez Canal than COVID '19 anall - pointing to a perceived shortage of cars. Obviously a shortage of anything results in higher prices - Free Now's surge fees being a case in point. The price of cars, in particular second hand cars, has continued to increase and perhaps, most relevant to NTA, Brexit has significantly increased the price of UK import second hand converted cargo vehicles, the very vehicles from the very source it identified as being key to increasing WAV provision when it changed relevant vehicle standards to accommodate the same. Hence, the WAV providers are certainly justified in seeking further extensions. I feel justified in wanting an extension simply because prices of cars haven't decreased at all since some of my competitors were granted an extension. A level playing field is all I'm asking for!

Having said that, Watty also makes a fair point. I'll be picking up a hire car in foreign climes later today. If they were to offer me the keys to a 3+ year old clapped out Prius they'd be told where to shove them... albeit employing somewhat more polite diction.

[Octavia1]

I wouldn't disagree with any of your observations on my likes and dislikes, Octy. I do like to get my hands dirty from time to time and I do all sorts of DIY, learning (generally stuff of quite limited use) along the way is all part of the fun for me.

If your OCD extended to following Toyota specs you would have replaced your engine oil and filter 13 times, had 13 Hybrid Heath Checks, replaced your brake fluid 10 times, your pollen/AC filter 10 times, your air filter 5 times and your engine coolant once or twice in addition to the bits you mentioned. I'd hazard a guess that you've gone through a fair few litres of screenwash and possibly replaced the wiper blades given your desire for spotless windas, also. Add all that up and, employing mechanics to do the work, I doubt you'd get out for much less than the 1.3c/kilo my 8 year old MKIII Octy has cost to maintain since I acquired it. Then there's the Capital cost... I guess you're looking at c.€3,000k/year for the bought new Prius whereas my second hand Octy works out at c.€1,700/year... assuming both cars last until they're no longer acceptable to NTA under current regulations.

IIRC, NTAs excuse for complicating age extension provisions beyond belief was more to do with the Suez Canal than COVID '19 anall - pointing to a perceived shortage of cars. Obviously a shortage of anything results in higher prices - Free Now's surge fees being a case in point. The price of cars, in particular second hand cars, has continued to increase and perhaps, most relevant to NTA, Brexit has significantly increased the price of UK import second hand converted cargo vehicles, the very vehicles from the very source it identified as being key to increasing WAV provision when it changed relevant vehicle standards to accommodate the same. Hence, the WAV providers are certainly justified in seeking further extensions. I feel justified in wanting an extension simply because prices of cars haven't decreased at all since some of my competitors were granted an extension. A level playing field is all I'm asking for!

Having said that, Watty also makes a fair point. I'll be picking up a hire car in foreign climes later today. If they were to offer me the keys to a 3+ year old clapped out Prius they'd be told where to shove them... albeit employing somewhat more polite diction.

For yu to say that yur diesel cud compete in the cost of maintenance wit a prius rat is just incorrect.....all the stuff yu mentioned has to be done on both vehicles  wit the exception of the ( health check for the battery)  on the prius .... I wud argue in that case the well established an proven maxim of " let it develope "   ie leave it well enough alone untill it fails as it is far more economically favourable
I'm saying that on the prius brake discs / pads , flywheel failure , timing belt, starter motor failure , alternator failure and let's not forget those trips
In a towtruck sittin next to a bloke who sounds like he kills rabbits wit a sledgehammer for entertainment... 100s of bulb changes .............
.on a prius are not required  or ommited ....
I can categorically inform you that the cost to run me   prius thus far is infinitely cheaper than an octavia .... not to mention nervously driving down motorway wunderin wen me flywheel is goin to fly tru me bonnet wen I'm aware the mileage is up to the time wen it's due ....
I say this in all confidence as I have owned both wer yu have not ....
It is obvious that a full electric vehicle wud be even less of a headache than even a prius ... an
Ther can be no argument against the fact that they are cheaper to run , vastly more reliablile  and  trouble free , stress free driving compared to a diesel ...
Yu only have to listen on here to blokes continually endlessly debatin  how to fix dpf cloggin , adding  all sorts of climate toxic chemicals that are most likely poisoning the population  to a problem that can't and will never be fixed .... despite ther statements to the contrary that if examined closely wud expose the flaws in ther argument..... the fact of the matter is that diesel is dead .... its dirty oil that can't be clean energy and as the vw courtcases an the hundreds of millions in fines they paid along with other manufacturers around the world in the cover ups .... diesel can't be a silk purse from a cows ear .... its dead , it's obsolete and it's filthy an shud be resigned to the transport museum only ....to sumup....its  a huge pain in the hole



 

[C5]

The Prius is dirtier than than a euro 6 diesel when you include the battery it has and it's higher in Co2 than a euro 6 diesel. Diesel engines shouldn't spend most of there time driving around city's and hybrids shouldn't spend most of there time out in rural areas because petrol engine's drink more than diesels. The hybrids are crap on the open road.

[Octavia1]

The Prius is dirtier than than a euro 6 diesel when you include the battery it has and it's higher in Co2 than a euro 6 diesel. Diesel engines shouldn't spend most of there time driving around city's and hybrids shouldn't spend most of there time out in rural areas because petrol engine's drink more than diesels. The hybrids are crap on the open road.

I'm assumin c5 the thread is about those considerin a new vehicle.... maybe I'm wrong as I haven't read much of it I'm only going by the title ....but if it is the case ....another factor has now entered the decision making on account of the possibility of the imminant  bombing of oil refineries In  Iran and wat that will do to diesel and petrol prices and the possibility even if remote ....of ques at the pumps .... that's another
Weight off the mind of the lads plugging ther taxi into ther wall at home .....

[mercenary for hire]

Never owned a diesel....never wanted one.Why the fuk would I want something that sounds like it's broken when it's perfect.All yous spoofers on here pretending diesel is the future should have your tank dipped by Revenue.I'll bet yer running the farmers diesel to save a few cent because you made a bad choice and bought a car with a tractor engine.

All that stuff about hybrids being  shite on the motorway is complete bollox.They're less efficient but not much less than a diesel.

I told you all twelve years ago the hybrid was the way to go but nobody listens.I'd say yis are like those lads who need to be kicked in the testicles just to blow their loads.Yis probably pay for it too.Fukkin diesel masochists.

Anyone got the squeeler number for customs?....

[C5]

No oil or gas that means power cuts or brownouts too ya know, diesel cars can run on veg oil, heating oil or agri diesel if need be, anyways there is a plan for that, there is a certain amount of filling stations at will be opened around the country to control supply with with the garda, ambulance etc getting full tanks and public transport including taxis and trucks supplying shops and factories. Everything else gets a certain amount of litres. I have a 1300 litre tank for diesel out the back, got it 10 years ago.

[C5]

You said it merc hybrids on motorways are still less efficient, it all adds up in the long run. 

[watty]

No oil or gas that means power cuts or brownouts too ya know, diesel cars can run on veg oil, heating oil or agri diesel if need be, anyways there is a plan for that, there is a certain amount of filling stations at will be opened around the country to control supply with with the garda, ambulance etc getting full tanks and public transport including taxis and trucks supplying shops and factories. Everything else gets a certain amount of litres. I have a 1300 litre tank for diesel out the back, got it 10 years ago.

If taxis are essential services, you'll be allowed to fill up at the petrol station anyways?  What does your insurance company think about you having a mini-fuel station in your back garden?  I think diesel can only be stored for upto a year before it starts to go off?

I'd be hiding in plain sight so to speak and charging my EV via house electricity whilst making my dinner (or whenever the power is on). 

[C5]

It's the same as having home heating oil in a tank, it's an oil. it can last a couple of years, I fill the car once a month with it and to keep it fresh it gets topped up once a year.