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Re: FN Technology fee gone up to €1.50
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2024, 09:25:51 am »
Strictly speaking, we're breaking the law, there's no gray area (get an appointment) in their message.  But Irish rules for an Irish situation...

NSAI/Metrology email:
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This taximeter is currently not legally compliant with the Metrology Act and associated regulations as the security seals are broken/removed.  To comply with the Metrology Act and associated regulations, this taximeter now requires immediate verification by Applus Car Testing Services Ltd., the approved NSAI Authorised Verifier for taximeters.  To arrange a verification of your taximeter please contact the NSAI Authorised Verifier, Applus Car Testing Services Ltd. at www.legalmetrology.ie or by calling (01) 4135951.

Section 13 of the Metrology Act, 1996 states that it is an offence to operate an unverified taximeter for trade use and the Owner and/or Operator is liable to prosecution. If found guilty of this offence, your taximeter may be removed from trade use and you may be liable to a fine of up to €4000 or up to 12 months imprisonment, or both. Legal Metrology have successfully prosecuted Taxi Owners/Operators for this offence and intend to pursue all non-compliances detected to the full extent possible.
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Re: FN Technology fee gone up to €1.50
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2024, 09:38:22 am »
Here is SECTION 13 OF THE METROLOGY ACT 1996;   

"Sale, distribution and use of metrological instruments.   

13.—(1) Every person who makes, sells, imports or causes to be made or sold, any instrument intended for use for trade or any prescribed purpose, or who uses or has in his or her possession for use any instrument for any such purpose, shall ensure that the relevant conformity assessment procedure referred to in section 14 has been applied to it.      

(2) A person who knowingly fails or neglects to comply with subsection (1) shall be guilty of an offence.      

(3) Where in the special circumstances of any particular case it appears to be impracticable or unnecessary that a particular requirement of this Act in regard to approval and stamping of instruments be complied with, the Director may, by an authorisation in writing, dispense with the observance of that requirement. The Director shall apply conditions, including a time limit, to any such authorisation and any person who knowingly contravenes any condition imposed by the authorisation shall be guilty of an offence."


https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1996/act/27/enacted/en/print#sec13

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Re: FN Technology fee gone up to €1.50
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2024, 09:40:20 am »
NSAI/Metrology email:
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This taximeter is currently not legally compliant with the Metrology Act and associated regulations as the security seals are broken/removed.  To comply with the Metrology Act and associated regulations, this taximeter now requires immediate verification by Applus Car Testing Services Ltd., the approved NSAI Authorised Verifier for taximeters.  To arrange a verification of your taximeter please contact the NSAI Authorised Verifier, Applus Car Testing Services Ltd. at www.legalmetrology.ie or by calling (01) 4135951.

Section 13 of the Metrology Act, 1996 states that it is an offence to operate an unverified taximeter for trade use and the Owner and/or Operator is liable to prosecution. If found guilty of this offence, your taximeter may be removed from trade use and you may be liable to a fine of up to €4000 or up to 12 months imprisonment, or both. Legal Metrology have successfully prosecuted Taxi Owners/Operators for this offence and intend to pursue all non-compliances detected to the full extent possible.



I don't see any mention of the word Taxi in the Metrology Act ??

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Re: FN Technology fee gone up to €1.50
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2024, 09:44:02 am »
Try sPSV?

Are you suggesting that "the Director may, by an authorisation in writing, dispense with the observance of that requirement" send out ~20,000 special dispensation letters to taxi drivers?  My postman's just gone and I've no letter.
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Re: FN Technology fee gone up to €1.50
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2024, 07:59:57 pm »
Rest assured, none of the 25 compliance Officers will be working tonight.

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Re: FN Technology fee gone up to €1.50
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2024, 08:12:30 pm »
Rest assured, none of the 25 compliance Officers will be working tonight.

That's something that always puzzled me about the inspectors.  As long as numbers have been thrown around, it's always been an uneven number of inspectors like 9 or 25.  But they work in pairs afaik so why isn't there 24 or 26 of them?  Does one of them sit in the office like on a subs bench in case someone in the field breaks a shoelace and has to go home?  Does he play 'Mammy' in the office canteen so there's a hot meal for them when they return from crime-fighting on the mean streets of Ireland?
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Re: FN Technology fee gone up to €1.50
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2024, 11:31:03 pm »
Ther shud be no multinationals operating in the  irish taxi industry.  We are scrutinised
down to having a pen and paper or we fail the licence examination...our meters are examined and passed
 Yet  foreign apps can operate and introduce unfair work distribution, priority systems , Favouritism,  hotel bribes, surge pricing , charge above the metered fare , charge extortionate " technology fees " with total impunity ... a national scandal where once again the citizens and workers are left to the mercy and exploitation of big foreign money ... what will this new government do about it ?   Sweet fuck all . Why ? Because they are paid off by foreign money to influence their  decisions...
In the real world that is called corruption. 

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Re: FN Technology fee gone up to €1.50
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2024, 05:13:41 pm »
Here is SECTION 13 OF THE METROLOGY ACT 1996;   

"Sale, distribution and use of metrological instruments.   

13.—(1) Every person who makes, sells, imports or causes to be made or sold, any instrument intended for use for trade or any prescribed purpose, or who uses or has in his or her possession for use any instrument for any such purpose, shall ensure that the relevant conformity assessment procedure referred to in section 14 has been applied to it.      

(2) A person who knowingly fails or neglects to comply with subsection (1) shall be guilty of an offence.      

(3) Where in the special circumstances of any particular case it appears to be impracticable or unnecessary that a particular requirement of this Act in regard to approval and stamping of instruments be complied with, the Director may, by an authorisation in writing, dispense with the observance of that requirement. The Director shall apply conditions, including a time limit, to any such authorisation and any person who knowingly contravenes any condition imposed by the authorisation shall be guilty of an offence."


https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1996/act/27/enacted/en/print#sec13

Not exactly a director but i guess an anonymous staff member of the NTA will have to suffice.  I wonder how many taxi drivers didn't work the past 12 days because they didn't have a letter from the director?

https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/December-2024-Newsletter.pdf

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In circumstances where a verification was not carried out on or before the 1st December 2024, the
taxi may not be operated unless formal evidence of a verification appointment can be provided on
the spot by the driver to An Garda Síochána, Legal Metrology Inspectors or NTA Compliance
Officers.


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Re: FN Technology fee gone up to €1.50
« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2024, 05:18:57 pm »
Rest assured, none of the 25 compliance Officers will be working tonight.

That's something that always puzzled me about the inspectors.  As long as numbers have been thrown around, it's always been an uneven number of inspectors like 9 or 25.  But they work in pairs afaik so why isn't there 24 or 26 of them?  Does one of them sit in the office like on a subs bench in case someone in the field breaks a shoelace and has to go home?  Does he play 'Mammy' in the office canteen so there's a hot meal for them when they return from crime-fighting on the mean streets of Ireland?
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Re: FN Technology fee gone up to €1.50
« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2024, 06:19:12 pm »
Does EF supervise from the rooftop of the NTA building  lol

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« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2024, 11:18:00 pm »
Does EF supervise from the rooftop of the NTA building  lol


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Re: FN Technology fee gone up to €1.50
« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2024, 08:24:17 am »
Ther shud be no multinationals operating in the  irish taxi industry.  We are scrutinised
down to having a pen and paper or we fail the licence examination...our meters are examined and passed
 Yet  foreign apps can operate and introduce unfair work distribution, priority systems , Favouritism,  hotel bribes, surge pricing , charge above the metered fare , charge extortionate " technology fees " with total impunity ... a national scandal where once again the citizens and workers are left to the mercy and exploitation of big foreign money ... what will this new government do about it ?   Sweet fuck all . Why ? Because they are paid off by foreign money to influence their  decisions...
In the real world that is called corruption.

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Can’t work without them.
Bring them donuts.

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Re: FN Technology fee gone up to €1.50
« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2024, 10:37:13 am »
Ther shud be no multinationals operating in the  irish taxi industry.  We are scrutinised
down to having a pen and paper or we fail the licence examination...our meters are examined and passed
 Yet  foreign apps can operate and introduce unfair work distribution, priority systems , Favouritism,  hotel bribes, surge pricing , charge above the metered fare , charge extortionate " technology fees " with total impunity ... a national scandal where once again the citizens and workers are left to the mercy and exploitation of big foreign money ... what will this new government do about it ?   Sweet fuck all . Why ? Because they are paid off by foreign money to influence their  decisions...
In the real world that is called corruption.

And drivers love them.
Can’t work without them.
Bring them donuts.

I tink fleece now gives out  donuts  at Christmas to lure the licky lackys inta ther office jack... cause the donuts look like arseholes ..... then they hypnotise them  for another yer keep  put stickers on ther
Car... an they give them a crackerjack pen an a pat on the head ....

Poor cnuts


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Re: FN Technology fee gone up to €1.50
« Reply #28 on: December 24, 2024, 07:39:01 am »
Flag on the street, save oneself €4.50 per journey at least, spread the word to all yer passengers for the future. "Do you know that it's nearly a fiver to use the app rather than stopping a cab in the street" ?
I had a street fare on Sunday night from Cork city center out to Blackrock with 2 lads.
The fare was €11.20 + €1 = €12.20, which I asked fer.

Yer-man-o says; "What, 12.20 !",
I replied; "Yes, is that OK ?",
He sez; "FFS, it cost us €21 to get in to town earlier @ 5pm, ... and that was on the Day rate !".

I explained to him that the Day rate on Sunday's was the same as the Night rate and the PUC and the Technology fee and Extra passenger charges. He was thankful to me fer the explanation but still a tad Miffed at paying almost a Tenner more to get in to town as opposed to going home.

 


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