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VAG 12v Battery replacement.
« on: January 13, 2025, 05:36:16 pm »
To code or not to code, that is the question...

I changed my battery (MKIII Octy) last Monday. The new one was fully charged and after a minute or two all the usual warnings you get when you disconnect the battery disappeared and the Start-Stop system cane back to life from the off. Having researched whether or not it's necessary to code the new battery to the car the jury was still out. Some said (as my experience suggests) that provided you replace like with like i.e. AGM with AGM there's no need to code it. However, given that I was an OBD Eleven early adopter I have the (now subscription based) Pro (VAG) version for life as it came with the c,€33 dongle back then, my OCD couldn't cope with not coding it so, come Saturday, I had to do it but I don't think I'd bother subscribing to any of the OEM level diagnostic providers unless it obviously needed to be done. Interestingly some of those who suggested it does need to be done said the Start-Stop system wouldn't work without coding, that's clearly either incorrect or situation specific.

In any event, the coding is simple enough. All that needs to be changed is the serial number... you can enter any 10 digit number you want provided it's different to the one already coded . You can also change the power rating although most fora contributors suggest that's only necessary if it differs significantly e.g. by 10+%. Mine didn't differ significantly as it's 70AH whereas the original was 68AH but my OCD made me change it regardless. You can also change the make - VAG code the original Exide as JCB as per it's BEM Code despite there being another code available for Exide. However if you can't find a code for your make there is an Unknown option or you can just leave it alone. I left mine alone 'cos if there is a BEM sticker on it it's not on the top and I didn't look for it before installing it and even my OCD can cope with the wrong make being coded! As always with VAG there is an oddity. When it comes to the Technology parameter AGM is coded as "Fleece" in Europe which is, apparently, a German/VAG/more descriptive term used for that technology. There is a "Binary - AGM" option that shouldn't be selected according to those in the know but others have said they used that with no issue.
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Re: VAG 12v Battery replacement.
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2025, 05:40:47 pm »
What year and how many kilometres have ya up on her now.

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Re: VAG 12v Battery replacement.
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2025, 06:01:26 pm »
2016

249,676 when I changed the battery on Monday... probably a little over 250,000 now. While it was still on it's original battery the Start-Stop was a rarity since COVID '19 anall so it probably should have been replaced a couple of years back. Needing jump starting after 3 days parked over Christmas is what prompted me to finally bite the bullet.
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Re: VAG 12v Battery replacement.
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2025, 01:04:50 am »
I've a 2019 with 208000 I always switch of the start/stop it might lengthen the life of it, I also try and limit the Aircon use as much as possible.

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Re: VAG 12v Battery replacement.
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2025, 11:31:43 am »
Yes…stop-start ruins the battery.
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Re: VAG 12v Battery replacement.
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2025, 11:56:15 am »
My better half drives a fiat which I hate.It's nearly ten years old and a few things have broken but the battery is still original.I put it down to disabling the stop start feature.

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Re: VAG 12v Battery replacement.
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2025, 02:34:07 pm »
I did read a comment on a relevant forum from a taxi fleet owner who said he physically disabled the Start-Stop system on his fleet of Octavias by disconnecting some sensor on the negative battery terminal. However , it can be so disabled programmatically by changing the start-stop voltage limit parameter to 12v (default is 7.8v I think) in Gateway->Adaptation.

In any event, in my case the battery lasted a good 2 years after the start-stop function virtually disappeared. You wouldn't get anything close to that length of warning with a standard (-vs- AGM) battery!

I'm not an AC fan either, C5. It's supposed to be bad for your respiratory system - although 30 smokes a day can't be good! I generally reserve it for the rare extremes of our climate and for demisting.
« Last Edit: January 15, 2025, 02:38:09 pm by Rat Catcher »
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