The FN Scam merchant.

[Belker]

AFAIK they don't skim your card it's the paysafe card they want.

I would agree with you Marky, between the driver getting the PaySafe card and also them getting the drivers WhatsApp number and his FN driver ID/number there is a Scam in there somewhere, which is well beyound my limited IT knowledge, but at least we are a step further to finding out ?

John m's multiple (posted as Fact) posts/theories hold No Water.

[Belker]

Some driver on social media saying seemingly he asks you for your whatsapp number to send you the list which includes  milk and bread a paysafe card https://www.paysafecard.com/en-gb/product-how-it-works/ which when he gets the number you never hear from him again.

Never heard of a paysafe card.

Any chance you might share or give us a Link to that Social Media platform you speak of to eventually work out how this Scam works ?

[markmiwurdz]

Some driver on social media saying seemingly he asks you for your whatsapp number to send you the list which includes  milk and bread a paysafe card https://www.paysafecard.com/en-gb/product-how-it-works/ which when he gets the number you never hear from him again.

Never heard of a paysafe card.

Any chance you might share or give us a Link to that Social Media platform you speak of to eventually work out how this Scam works ?

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1CqhUm4A8F/

[Belker]

Thanks Marky, it didn't give much more insight only that a paysafe card is now involved.

The scammer/s have been at this a long time so they must have caught a few by now ??

[John m]

AFAIK they don't skim your card it's the paysafe card they want.

I would agree with you Marky, between the driver getting the PaySafe card and also them getting the drivers WhatsApp number and his FN driver ID/number there is a Scam in there somewhere, which is well beyound my limited IT knowledge, but at least we are a step further to finding out ?

John m's multiple (posted as Fact) posts/theories hold No Water.

You really are a fucktard Im telling you what it is .Its a way to verify Cloned or Newwly created cards .Its multi con .Some cards are set up overseas legally then the owner says it was cloned he does not pay anything especially if it was used overseas and he can prove it was fraud .Also the Vendor does not lose the Cash as the card was Cloned .The readon the use Taxis or Food deliveries is neither have CCTV unlike high street shops or neither have Security Guards .Once the Card is accepted as good its passed off and they go shopping .

  Its a huge scam especially in UK where Police have issued warnings about it .Uber eats seems to be the prefered rout in UK .order food and if order is accepted you know card is not reported stolen Both Taxi and Food deliveries no need for contact .Taxi lad runs out from Hotel or appears outside or near hotel Pays you by card .You get your money so if it suits you take the job .

[John m]

Talking of Scams .Have you been offered a Bloodpressure App .The one where you place your finger on the app and it reads your blood pressure .They are a scam .They collect your fingerprint from your index finger .Then use it to try break into your Phone or Bank account as a lot of devices now require you to have a digital Fingerprint .

[Belker]

AFAIK they don't skim your card it's the paysafe card they want.

I would agree with you Marky, between the driver getting the PaySafe card and also them getting the drivers WhatsApp number and his FN driver ID/number there is a Scam in there somewhere, which is well beyound my limited IT knowledge, but at least we are a step further to finding out ?

John m's multiple (posted as Fact) posts/theories hold No Water.

You really are a fucktard Im telling you what it is .Its a way to verify Cloned or Newwly created cards .Its multi con .Some cards are set up overseas legally then the owner says it was cloned he does not pay anything especially if it was used overseas and he can prove it was fraud .Also the Vendor does not lose the Cash as the card was Cloned .The readon the use Taxis or Food deliveries is neither have CCTV unlike high street shops or neither have Security Guards .Once the Card is accepted as good its passed off and they go shopping .

  Its a huge scam especially in UK where Police have issued warnings about it .Uber eats seems to be the prefered rout in UK .order food and if order is accepted you know card is not reported stolen Both Taxi and Food deliveries no need for contact .Taxi lad runs out from Hotel or appears outside or near hotel Pays you by card .You get your money so if it suits you take the job .

If you could refrain from showing your class with uncouth expletives, then where does the Paysafe card bit come in to it ?

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1CqhUm4A8F/

[John m]

You give them your card Number .They can run them using AI through a Laptop find out your PUC then clone your card .Normally they use CCTV at drinklinks to get card number then Run it through a Programme to get the PUC then clone the card .Now they need to check it works .A lot of cards now ask you to verify transactions by phone .

[Belker]

You give them your card Number .They can run them using AI through a Laptop find out your PUC then clone your card .Normally they use CCTV at drinklinks to get card number then Run it through a Programme to get the PUC then clone the card .Now they need to check it works .A lot of cards now ask you to verify transactions by phone .

That does not make a lot of sense, no mention of Paysafe, and no one in their right mind is giving anyone their card number ??

[John m]

You give them your card Number .They can run them using AI through a Laptop find out your PUC then clone your card .Normally they use CCTV at drinklinks to get card number then Run it through a Programme to get the PUC then clone the card .Now they need to check it works .A lot of cards now ask you to verify transactions by phone .

That does not make a lot of sense, no mention of Paysafe, and no one in their right mind is giving anyone their card number ??

They need a number to pay you ..They have stuff set up .And they buy stuff of their own site by using your card and PUC .When the order is confirmed by your bank they cancel .Now they know they have matched your card and PUC .Most card transactions now ask you to verify it on your phone if it is a debit transaction .Their all scamming Cunts .

[John m]

You want to avoid getting scamed .If you have Revolute .You can get a one use card for free to make a purchase .That way the number you use from that card can never be used again its a one transaction card .Think how many places have your card number .ESB ,Gas suppliers Insurance .Your taxo apps to pay you .Toll Bridges and roads .AI has made all this stuff unsafe .If you know the card number you can run the PUC four digit or three digit Pin through a Laptop come up with a match .Thats why they invented tap no need to expose card number .Unlike the old system where they use to run your card through a paper copier and give you one copy and keep one . Remember the taxi driver from Finglas was caught skimming Cards . I was in London last week never saw a Penny or a Pound all cards from Bus to Bar to taxi all card payments .Only a matter of time We have QR codes on the back of the seats linked to our banks and get paid directly by the Customer ,no middle man No Sum Up ?

[Rat Catcher]

I'm not sure they "invented" Tap to be that way. At the pre-launch meeting I attended they definitely envisaged or planned to have an in-app payment facility. The fact is a lot of customers like the frictionless experience and it's a much better option for drivers as you don't have to find somewhere to pull in while you get your sumup fired up, etc...

[John m]

I'm not sure they "invented" Tap to be that way. At the pre-launch meeting I attended they definitely envisaged or planned to have an in-app payment facility. The fact is a lot of customers like the frictionless experience and it's a much better option for drivers as you don't have to find somewhere to pull in while you get your sumup fired up, etc...

If we had individual QR codes they would still require a Middle man but no refunds for over or under payments no Clawbacks .You just input the fare on your phone Customer scans your paid immediatly job done ..Bit like weatherspoons Scan QR code on table order and pay from your seat . Pity for staff and Drivers is no Tips .

[Rat Catcher]

That's how the Chinese pay for most stuff, cash is very rarely used over there. Every transaction ends in either "you scan me" or "I scan you". There's two generally acceptable payment apps, one being more popular than the other, the names of both escape me at present.

[Rat Catcher]

Alipay is the main one. WeChatPay (linked to their version of WhatsApp) is the other.... thanks to Google i.e. the same Google you can't legally access in China!