Boober fixed fares

[watty]

@RC - no range anxiety in your EV nua?

[Rat Catcher]

Not yet. As I have my cash book open I'll paste the % I've used each day. It seems to do 4 kilos per 1% of charge... to date. I did notice it was closer to 3.5 today as I had the heater on most of the time so I guess as it gets colder that could become an issue. However, I have my Ionity sub and it'll charge from 20% to 50% in under 10 minutes so I don't envisage it ever becoming a huge inconvenience. I did make a couple of business trips up north after my regular day's work. Of course Murphy's law dictated that they were busier than normal days so I had to charge up the road in Gormanston on the way. The thing with fast charging is that it slows as it fills so when I was going to Belfast I opted to just charge to 60% on the way up and topped it up to 60% again the next morning for the return trip on the Falls Rd. Interestingly, Ionity (with sub) charge 46c/KWH in the Free State and 46p/KWH up in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

My charging policy is:
Over 70% remaining - Don't charge
55-70% remaining - Charge to 90%
Less than 55% remaining - Charge to 80%
1st of Month - Charge to 100%
First time it goes below 37% each month - Initial charge to 40% then charge to 80%

Hence the figures below might not be exact usage per day as they are the amount put into the tank each night.


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27
28
60



32

47

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55


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32
28
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28

35


63
40
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55
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53
10
15
23
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21
56
31
25



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33

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33
25


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27
22
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59
31
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26
39
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[Rat Catcher]

Those figures are for home charging. Additionally I've used the Ionity sub as follows:
Date   KWH   €   stg£
15/04/2026   41.45   19.15   
18/04/2026   28.32   13.09   
19/04/2026   22.55   10.42   
08/05/2026   20.24   9.36   
04/07/2026   23.39   10.81   
09/07/2026   9.31   4.3   
19/08/2026   35.71   16.5   
20/08/2026   22.44   12.13   10.37
04/09/2026   29.92   13.82   
25/09/2026   19.77   9.14   
02/10/2026   25.87   11.95   

From memory the first few were before I got the home charger and the others were either for business trips taken outside of my normal (if there's such a thing) working day or because I didn't charge at night due to having a sleepover in mummy's house once or twice, being too drunk to remember or be arsed at least once with two or three in the course of a "normal" shift.... at least once to get home after a country run for IBT and another occasion I remember intending to continue into a long shift but didn't bother after buying a box of fried chicken to devour while charging up above in Finglas so that was a waste of time, money and exercise bicycle hours all in one!

[Taxi driver42]

Being too drunk to remember
Story of my current life

[watty]

For long non-taxi journeys, I think the ABRP app can calculate what option gives you the fastest journey when using chargers.  Usually the 'splash+dash' option you mentioned is best as the battery fills fastest when the battery is low.

https://abetterrouteplanner.com/home

[SalubriousEd]

Cheers RC appreciate it. Yeah I reckon 90% of passengers i get who give out about the apps are giving out bout FN. There seems to be a lot of hate out there for them

[Rat Catcher]

For long non-taxi journeys, I think the ABRP app can calculate what option gives you the fastest journey when using chargers.  Usually the 'splash+dash' option you mentioned is best as the battery fills fastest when the battery is low.

https://abetterrouteplanner.com/home

I have the Ionity sub so I tend to plan around their sites where necessary which isn't very often tbh. Looking at the numbers to date I doubt I'll get full value from the subscription, I'll have to review that when it expires and decide what might suit thereafter. While splash and dash might well suit when you have more time to fill on the way back or whatever I guess we should also consider the time it takes to divert to a filling station, park and connect/disconnect the leads etc... and you're gonna get wet ifn it's raining... at least with Ionity I've yet to encounter a filling station with a canopy like what the filthy polluting environmental vandals get.

However, there is however a however... Mad as it might seem there's a huge pschyolgical plus to having the sub... the €120/year is an historic cost that is well written off so irrelevant from the thought process thereafter... the current 46c/KWH equates to 30c per 1% of charge for my vehicle so that's the only element I might consider when fast charging which isn't hugely more expensive than my day rate home supply which is 28c/KWH inc VAT and is the same as my peak rate (5-7pm). Expanding on that somewhat questionable logic... yesterday, for example, I took €120 and used 30% of my battery - which was definitely on the heavy side, back of the envelope calculations suggest you'd get a monkey in takings from 90-100% of the tank of a summers evening up above in Dublin - which at Ionity (sub) rates would cost c.€9 (for 30%). That's clearly less than diesel would cost as a % of takings at current rates. Charging at home cuts that by a little over 50% using a weighted average cost basis... but the numbers kinda prove that EVs could be cost effective for those living in apartments. I'm not suggesting private motorists would be wise to run out and pay full price for them but a taximan living in a flat up above in Dublin could certainly save a few notes on fuel on top of the subsidies Govt might give him to buy the yoke. Of course, as you well know, maintenance costs are another question of a different colour altogether!

[watty]

Someone clever over on Boards.ie did the sums about Ionity a few years ago.  I *think* you had to be doing over 100 kW/wk for the sub to make sense.  E&OE...

[Rat Catcher]

That doesn't seem right. Obviously there'll be some minor differences depending on what supplier you compare with and such like but the difference between Ionity's full subscription rate and it's standard rate is 31c/KWH (77c-46c)... 400KWH at those rates equates to c.€124 saving with the sub which would cover the sub with a couple of euros left over for half a cup of Circle K coffee. That's more like 8KWH/week?

I'm exercising what few brain cells I have left here but I really can't see where 100 KWH/week came from... unless I'm gone totally doolally... maybe they thought the sub was €120/month?

[John m]

Rodent you expressed all the Disadvantages of stopping to charge most eloquently but what value fiscal saving on doctors bills do you attribute to having a walk around of mental health by sucking on a butt or vape while recharging your now not so new new car ?

[Rat Catcher]

I'm not great with quantifying what are largely qualitative factors if I'm honest. Obviously, standing out in the rain would leave you open to catching a cold resulting in downtime, medical costs with, perhaps, some broader macro economic consequences depending on various factors that may hold positions of relevance in such equations. All food for thought.

There is a question in that, however, that I will find an answer to if I remember next time I have cause to use a fast charging station... unless someone else can answer it in the meantime... can you run the heater in the car while it's charging?

[John m]

Iv never run the heater just demist the windows .But I wonder what impact the Heater would have on Range over a Shift .Especially if Customer Comfort was not your main concerne but maintaining a warm comfortable working environment it line with other industrial norms .Is there any heating grants available for place of work heating ?

[Rat Catcher]

... bur ifn you're cold and wet from plugging the charger lead in running the heater could neutralise potentially adverse consequences?

[John m]

... bur ifn you're cold and wet from plugging the charger lead in running the heater could neutralise potentially adverse consequences?

So are you suggesting that a Tax deduction for EV drivers for wet weather gear should be applied or do lads pumping juice also get wet .I will concede that most if not every EV Charger seems to lack weather shielding for those wishing to avail of its service .If we were to contact the Relevant authority on this issue would it be Oilskins boots and umberells tax deductable or what remedial solution would you suggest for weather related hardship .No sun cover in Summer Glasses and factor 15 ,Could or should also be offset against earnings .

[watty]

That doesn't seem right. Obviously there'll be some minor differences depending on what supplier you compare with and such like but the difference between Ionity's full subscription rate and it's standard rate is 31c/KWH (77c-46c)... 400KWH at those rates equates to c.€124 saving with the sub which would cover the sub with a couple of euros left over for half a cup of Circle K coffee. That's more like 8KWH/week?

I'm exercising what few brain cells I have left here but I really can't see where 100 KWH/week came from... unless I'm gone totally doolally... maybe they thought the sub was €120/month?

I probably didn't say it right.  I think they were comparing Ionity's [sub + kWh fees] versus Ecars' [sub + fees]. Ecars sub is ~€5/month but their charges are higher than Ionity's.  Using Ionity upto 100 kW/wk was more expensive than Ecars.  Only after 100 kw/wk is Ionity cheaper than Ecars.  Something like that.