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Re: Uber stripped of license to operate in London
« Reply #120 on: October 06, 2017, 03:51:44 pm »
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Re: Uber stripped of license to operate in London
« Reply #121 on: October 06, 2017, 04:02:04 pm »
Ooh....the handbags are out!!

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Re: Uber stripped of license to operate in London
« Reply #122 on: October 06, 2017, 04:21:50 pm »
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Re: Uber stripped of license to operate in London
« Reply #123 on: October 06, 2017, 04:28:52 pm »
That gay traffic fella, from Nth Korea still working Parnell Sq?...Noh Wei Ding.

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Re: Uber stripped of license to operate in London
« Reply #124 on: October 06, 2017, 06:26:15 pm »
Says the fella who's standing on the sidelines whilst his livelihood is being undermined. You're a silly boy!

A bit melodramatic, Tim. I don't think anyone's livelihood is under threat. As things stand it seems that the trade is in reasonably good shape. Of course there are challenges ahead. With dispatch firms reporting that they can't satisfy demand drivers are right to fear another influx of drivers. Our Government's commitment to boom/bust economics coupled with our memories of the last recession justifiably causes concern.

Anywaysanall, excuse my ignorance. I neglected to thank you for your service in our defence forces. Perhaps you can help us understand the challenges military men face in returning to civilian life. Within our trade there seems to be a perception that all ex-soldiers have huge pensions and only seek to join the ranks (if you'll excuse the pun) to occupy themselves.

I don't think it's melodramatic at all, these schemes to undermine all workers are hatched in the back corridors and shadows of government, driven by big business and self serving careerist politicians. The only reason the industry is currently doing okay is a direct result of the justified difficult knowledge test and the restriction on saloon plates if either of those two is undermined the entire taxi industry would be on the floor within months.
If dispatch firms can't cover their workload then perhaps they should not be in business as their business model is obviously not viable, if they offer enough incentive to drivers they will have their work covered and if punters want to convenience of being picked up at their required time they will have to pay a premium for it. The recession is over, it's about time we all got up off our knees and stopped being so subservient just because we are getting what we are rightfully owed.

As for the Defence forces, it's a grand job for a few years but hasn't been a career job for well over ten years now, anyone who joined after 2004 and who serves 21 years will no longer be entitled to an army pension immediately upon leaving, they must wait until they're 55.
Meaning a lad who joins the army at 17 and leaves after 21 years at age 38 will have to start fresh in the workplace with no pension, not a great position to be in having given their best years to such a demanding job. Most soldiers leave the army with no employable skills for life in civvy street and no pension now either, you'd have to be mad to join these days.

The current rate of pay for a private in the army after training is about €340 after tax, I don't know how they can live on it and goes some way to explaining why they are leaving in their droves.


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Re: Uber stripped of license to operate in London
« Reply #125 on: October 07, 2017, 10:50:01 am »
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You've chosen for me anyway, Admin. The only reason I posted under hippo originally was to counter what Belker had said earlier about me being Busby 78 and IrishTim...you see the real issue that hippo left and moved to Cape Canaveral. Put me back under The Lip will ya mate? The demons in hippos will surely arise to the fore otherwise. Mother is calling me now for my dinner. 8) I was advised not to use my old username anyway as it had expired...

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Re: Uber stripped of license to operate in London
« Reply #126 on: October 07, 2017, 02:49:13 pm »
Had a tear in me eye readin that hippo/lip... lol

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Re: Uber stripped of license to operate in London
« Reply #127 on: October 07, 2017, 03:17:32 pm »
I'm not sue what schemes you're talking about, Tim. Business and the public in general require a taxi service that is fit for purpose. Of course the authorities are going to look elsewhere (hackneys, local area hackneys, rideshare or whatever) if taxis can't deliver that service. The Dundalk "scheme" was part of establishing county based Taximeter Areas. The Tax "scheme" applies to everybody taking up self-employment, efficient tax planning is all that is. There are other schemes aimed at getting idlers to work such as BTWEA, etc... they all make sense and are generally successful.

The fact that the vast majority of taxi drivers manage quite well having never sat the Kathleen Doyle test is proof positive that it is not justified. It may be justifiable but such justification would require making it mandatory for all drivers to pass the test periodically, cities evolves as time progresses. Lifting the temporary moratorium on the issue of saloon taxi plates makes no sense, the current policy is working very well.

We thought that the trade would collapse on deregulation. I recall Minister Molloy telling me that it might't be as bad as we thought. In essence he was right, it didn't collapse within weeks or months, in fact trade increased in the short-medium term as increased supply encouraged increased utilisation. The collapse came some eight years after deregulation when the economy collapsed. Minister Dempsey noted, at that time, that there will be no significant improvement in trade until the economy recovers. Again, he was right. Our Government's commitment to boom/bust economics is the biggest threat to our livelihoods regardless of any tinkering with the rules in between.

It's a shame that the defence forces don't invest in helping retiring soldiers further their careers in the civilian arena. It seems crazy that so many simply discard their skills and opt to drive cabs.
If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

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Re: Uber stripped of license to operate in London
« Reply #128 on: October 07, 2017, 05:01:00 pm »
Back to the original topic a little I see another terrorist attack in London using a Prius.Surely this was a factor when they were revoking the licence.Or maybe another coincidence...

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Re: Uber stripped of license to operate in London
« Reply #129 on: October 07, 2017, 06:17:53 pm »
Daily Mail is calling it a registered mini-cab (Prius)
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Re: Uber stripped of license to operate in London
« Reply #130 on: October 07, 2017, 06:55:04 pm »
Chances are he was an Uber...if it was it's another nail in the coffin for them even if it wasn't their fault.I thought it was a bit strange that tfl used the phrase 'security concerns' when explaining the licence withdrawal.Surely safety concerns would be more appropriate when referring to passengers?

I also didn't realise the other Prius attempt was an Uber a few months ago.https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/sep/01/buckingham-palace-terror-suspect-had-tried-to-get-to-windsor-castle
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Re: Uber stripped of license to operate in London
« Reply #131 on: October 07, 2017, 07:58:37 pm »
I'm not sue what schemes you're talking about, Tim. Business and the public in general require a taxi service that is fit for purpose. Of course the authorities are going to look elsewhere (hackneys, local area hackneys, rideshare or whatever) if taxis can't deliver that service. The Dundalk "scheme" was part of establishing county based Taximeter Areas. The Tax "scheme" applies to everybody taking up self-employment, efficient tax planning is all that is. There are other schemes aimed at getting idlers to work such as BTWEA, etc... they all make sense and are generally successful.

The fact that the vast majority of taxi drivers manage quite well having never sat the Kathleen Doyle test is proof positive that it is not justified. It may be justifiable but such justification would require making it mandatory for all drivers to pass the test periodically, cities evolves as time progresses. Lifting the temporary moratorium on the issue of saloon taxi plates makes no sense, the current policy is working very well.

We thought that the trade would collapse on deregulation. I recall Minister Molloy telling me that it might't be as bad as we thought. In essence he was right, it didn't collapse within weeks or months, in fact trade increased in the short-medium term as increased supply encouraged increased utilisation. The collapse came some eight years after deregulation when the economy collapsed. Minister Dempsey noted, at that time, that there will be no significant improvement in trade until the economy recovers. Again, he was right. Our Government's commitment to boom/bust economics is the biggest threat to our livelihoods regardless of any tinkering with the rules in between.

It's a shame that the defence forces don't invest in helping retiring soldiers further their careers in the civilian arena. It seems crazy that so many simply discard their skills and opt to drive cabs.
The state gave redundant soldiers options to join, fire brigade, corpo, taxi etc after service. SPSV's were given to most of the defence forces, regardless of literacy.

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Re: Uber stripped of license to operate in London
« Reply #132 on: October 07, 2017, 10:13:24 pm »
I'm not sue what schemes you're talking about, Tim. Business and the public in general require a taxi service that is fit for purpose. Of course the authorities are going to look elsewhere (hackneys, local area hackneys, rideshare or whatever) if taxis can't deliver that service. The Dundalk "scheme" was part of establishing county based Taximeter Areas. The Tax "scheme" applies to everybody taking up self-employment, efficient tax planning is all that is. There are other schemes aimed at getting idlers to work such as BTWEA, etc... they all make sense and are generally successful.

The fact that the vast majority of taxi drivers manage quite well having never sat the Kathleen Doyle test is proof positive that it is not justified. It may be justifiable but such justification would require making it mandatory for all drivers to pass the test periodically, cities evolves as time progresses. Lifting the temporary moratorium on the issue of saloon taxi plates makes no sense, the current policy is working very well.

We thought that the trade would collapse on deregulation. I recall Minister Molloy telling me that it might't be as bad as we thought. In essence he was right, it didn't collapse within weeks or months, in fact trade increased in the short-medium term as increased supply encouraged increased utilisation. The collapse came some eight years after deregulation when the economy collapsed. Minister Dempsey noted, at that time, that there will be no significant improvement in trade until the economy recovers. Again, he was right. Our Government's commitment to boom/bust economics is the biggest threat to our livelihoods regardless of any tinkering with the rules in between.

It's a shame that the defence forces don't invest in helping retiring soldiers further their careers in the civilian arena. It seems crazy that so many simply discard their skills and opt to drive cabs.
The state gave redundant soldiers options to join, fire brigade, corpo, taxi etc after service. SPSV's were given to most of the defence forces, regardless of literacy.


Hahahaha what a crock of shit, not on your nelly!

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Re: Uber stripped of license to operate in London
« Reply #133 on: October 08, 2017, 12:02:14 pm »
Had a tear in me eye readin that hippo/lip... lol

Same over On Roy's...you're the biggest agent provocateur there is Hal, but very cunning with it...backhanded compliments... ;)

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Re: Uber stripped of license to operate in London
« Reply #134 on: October 08, 2017, 02:29:16 pm »
The state gave redundant soldiers options to join, fire brigade, corpo, taxi etc after service. SPSV's were given to most of the defence forces, regardless of literacy.

I don't think literacy is a requirement for any driver. I know we have to keep pen and paper in the car but, AFAIK, there's no regulation imposing any degree of proficiency in utilisation of the same upon drivers.
If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

 


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