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Re: UBER back on the agenda
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2017, 01:46:02 pm »
They must adhere to all LOCAL rules .


Whereas before the ruling that had to adhere to all local rules and did.... I see!
If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

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Re: UBER back on the agenda
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2017, 02:00:10 pm »
They did and do adhere to all local rules but drivers preferred to subsidie Mytaxi to compete against UBER by offering no PUC  Free waiting time for a substandard app but that was their choice .Even with all this subsidy Hailo/Mytaxi still offer drivers bobo to work for them .

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Re: UBER back on the agenda
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2017, 02:08:04 pm »
To be fair, mytaxi's app is getting better. The new in app navigation and destinations on a lot more job offers has improved it considerably and we get PUC, not to mention the biggest and best bonuses in the business. If/when they sort out the mickey mouse fare entry process I'll be almost happy.
If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

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Re: UBER back on the agenda
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2018, 12:06:57 pm »
Kallanick just sold 50% of his shares for 1.4 billion Dollars .Not bad for a company you all said was worthless.

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Re: UBER back on the agenda
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2018, 05:13:12 pm »
Kallanick just sold 50% of his shares for 1.4 billion Dollars .Not bad for a company you all said was worthless.

Further proof if it were needed, there is no God.
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Re: UBER back on the agenda
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2018, 12:47:14 pm »
UBER will without my help go after the Irish taxi market once again as Mytaxi have imploded it is rubbish and has lost the confidence of the customers .I waited 30 minutes to cover a pre book to get priority as it was offered with the job but never got it .Brendan Griffin TD is the junior minister for transport he has always favoured some kind of rideshare or community involvement to solve rural transport shortages .I did not say anything about UBER pop but im sure Rural hacks may consider operating the UBER or My taxi app if the minister says they are only availing of new dynamic teck that he intends to legislate for in accordance with recent ECJ rulings .The ECJ ruling has opened up the door for new legislation if the minister sees fit to use it as an excuse for change .Griffin is from Healy Wray country and will try to win browny points just in case there is an election ,Rural travellers will welcome any type of transport and that will be rewarded at the ballot box .

That's the biggest load of Bollicks I've heard in a long time.
I'll have my bet of an Even Deuce again with the same T & C's as before fer 2018,
I'll even Throw in Jan and Feb 2019 as a 'Gimme' !

Are We on ?

Offer available up till 10th Jan 2017.

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Re: UBER back on the agenda
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2018, 02:16:52 pm »
UBER will without my help go after the Irish taxi market once again as Mytaxi have imploded it is rubbish and has lost the confidence of the customers .I waited 30 minutes to cover a pre book to get priority as it was offered with the job but never got it .Brendan Griffin TD is the junior minister for transport he has always favoured some kind of rideshare or community involvement to solve rural transport shortages .I did not say anything about UBER pop but im sure Rural hacks may consider operating the UBER or My taxi app if the minister says they are only availing of new dynamic teck that he intends to legislate for in accordance with recent ECJ rulings .The ECJ ruling has opened up the door for new legislation if the minister sees fit to use it as an excuse for change .Griffin is from Healy Wray country and will try to win browny points just in case there is an election ,Rural travellers will welcome any type of transport and that will be rewarded at the ballot box .



That's the biggest load of Bollicks I've heard in a long time.
I'll have my bet of an Even Deuce again with the same T & C's as before fer 2018,
I'll even Throw in Jan and Feb 2019 as a 'Gimme' !

Are We on ?

Offer available up till 10th Jan 2017.



Thanks Ken for the offer but couldnt take the bet as I couldnd be sure of how long before it happens but the junior minister has said he is in favour of tech .One of the downsides of the rural hack system is the booking system as legally hacks have to be pre booked .If the minister changes the rule to allow them use apps for bookings then UBER/Mytaxi will promote their services among rural hacks and encourage more people to hack up their family motor .The down side then is people renting taxies to work the backwoods might go hack and those rentals make their way onto the big city streets and this would then solve the suggested lack of taxies in Urban areas .It makes sense for a change in the rules to allow hacks use real time non prebooking apps as it would solve both rural and urban transport shortages at least on paper .It only took Minister Griffin two days after the ECJ final judgement to come out in favour of tech to solve rural transport shortages .I had expected the ECJ to rule in March if they did I might of actually won our wager .Keep an eye on Griffin he has made absolutely no impact as a junior minister this might become his issue .

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Re: UBER back on the agenda
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2018, 02:27:00 pm »
The rules allow them to accept bookings via app... an app runs on a telephone. The use of virtual meters to calculate the fare is, perhaps, a grey area as hackneys are supposed to quote the fare in advance. However, NTA seems to support the view that quoting the basis of calculation is sufficient. That concurs with a court ruling in London on foot of a challenge by taxi drivers operating with the same regulation as is applicable here i.e. only a licensed taxi may use a taximeter.
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« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2018, 02:41:25 pm »
The rules allow them to accept bookings via app... an app runs on a telephone. The use of virtual meters to calculate the fare is, perhaps, a grey area as hackneys are supposed to quote the fare in advance. However, NTA seems to support the view that quoting the basis of calculation is sufficient. That concurs with a court ruling in London on foot of a challenge by taxi drivers operating with the same regulation as is applicable here i.e. only a licensed taxi may use a taximeter.

So using an app to calculate the distance then using a hack farecard would most probably be ok?

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« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2018, 02:44:48 pm »
Did Leo when he was transport minister not say apps were not a telephonic device as they needed internet connection to operate which is why we can tap our phone .There might be a grey area concerning Hacks availing of Apps to secure work in real time ?

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Re: UBER back on the agenda
« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2018, 02:48:27 pm »
Yes, as would using an app to calculate the fare provided the basis of calculation can be quoted in advance on request. That's how mytaxi's hackneys work here and how Uber's minicabs work in London.

No, taxis, hackneys and limousines are allowed to use apps to accept bookings. The law was not changed to allow any drivers interact with their telephones while driving. Under current legislation you could use a device that isn't capable of making or receiving a telephone call and argue that, as such, it is not a telephone if prosecuted for using it while driving.
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If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

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« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2018, 03:09:52 pm »
There must be a business in creating a PPJ or monthly rental fee for an app that puts hacks only in touch with customers .Guinness or the Vintners could pay to set it up for rural gargalers .

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Re: UBER back on the agenda
« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2018, 03:19:12 pm »
mytaxi does that... almost nationwide.
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Re: UBER back on the agenda
« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2018, 05:56:40 am »
If Mytaxi went totally nationwide it would solve a lot of problems.

Are Rural hacks allowed to use Mytaxi ?

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Re: UBER back on the agenda
« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2018, 04:53:10 pm »
I think Local Area Hackneys are restricted to picking up from a small area... not that it matters, there's only a handful in the whole country.

If politicians realised that our culture has changed somewhat it might solve a lot of perceived problems. Men no longer feel a need to subject their bodies to copious quantities of alcohol in public houses every night of the week before driving 25 miles to find a suitable stick for to beat the woman with. Maybe put some thought into community cafes or social clubs that don't sell alcohol? Our Govt seems obsessed with encouraging and facilitating alcohol consumption while our hospitals can't cope with normal non-alcohol related demand. Isn't it just mad, Ted?
If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

 


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