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Re: NRC Xpert Merger
« Reply #60 on: March 05, 2018, 11:56:32 am »
The utopia you recall never existed, Paul. Folk didn't flag taxis down a whole lot before roof signs were introduced in the 70s. Phoning for a cab was the norm - not that taxi use was normal - back then. As a taxi culture developed through the 80s/90s taxi and hackney bases sprung up in the suburbs developing radio work in line with increased street work. However, there has been a huge shift to app ordering in recent times, particularly in the suburbs. Ten years ago I could easily work the suburbs without any app or radio, that's not an option now. I'd have to work the city to make ends meet without accepting app work. Now that mytaxi allows us charge full fare - and riders are happy to pay it - I don't see any great issue, although I would prefer not to be as dependent on a commercial dispatch firm as I am.

TTnH has supported and promoted various apps over the years. Initially it was in Hail0's corner but various factors such as withdrawal of PUC saw it switch allegiance to cab:app, which it still promotes. Hence I don't see it agreeing with your suggested boycott of all firms. Furthermore, removing the pick up service would discommode our customers and would strengthen the case for rideshare and such like. In an ideal world, NTA would provide the eHail infrastructure. The unions should have listened to me 5 years ago and supported that objective instead of seeking to line their own pockets by supporting commercial firms. However, there are still some active proponents of the co-op model e.g. Whistle and Eircab who may provide drivers with a non-commercial option going forward. Similarly, other commercial players such as Flag may bring much needed competition to the PPJ dispatch market
« Last Edit: March 05, 2018, 12:01:12 pm by Rat Catcher »
If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

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Re: NRC Xpert Merger
« Reply #61 on: March 05, 2018, 03:44:46 pm »
i just think everyone is missing the point I'm trying to make.
that point being, why are SELF EMPLOYED drivers prepared to give the running of their business to a bunch of bloodsuckers ?

i completely disagree with you also.
it is a fact that a taxi culture has been established for a good number of years now, so you seriously believe that will disapear now, it no radio company a existed ?
furthermore have you ever been in town on a Friday,  or Saturday night ? radio company's, and apps are redundant on those nights.

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Re: NRC Xpert Merger
« Reply #62 on: March 05, 2018, 04:04:19 pm »
I consider myself to be an Independent Owner Operator.
I have an App for the quiet times, and when I drop in the suburbs.
22 years on and still no need to attach to Rentseekers.
There'll always be a limited market for guys who can't make it  on their own.

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Re: NRC Xpert Merger
« Reply #63 on: March 05, 2018, 04:11:01 pm »
If people want a taxi they ring for a taxi, or they use an app (latest craze in the last 4-5 years)
Folk will certainly not walk 1km out of their estate in search of a taxi ffs. And that's why radio companies came into being. It's about supply and demand, and business of course. There is a business need for radio

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Re: NRC Xpert Merger
« Reply #64 on: March 05, 2018, 04:18:28 pm »
i just think everyone is missing the point I'm trying to make.
that point being, why are SELF EMPLOYED drivers prepared to give the running of their business to a bunch of bloodsuckers ?

We get the point DM, but it's just not gonna happen fer reasons that have been tirelessly explained to you.

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Re: NRC Xpert Merger
« Reply #65 on: March 05, 2018, 05:05:23 pm »
well the last I'll say on it is , it's not gonna happen simply because there is no will on the part of the drivers to MAKE it happen.
it's like I said already there are drivers who just can't operate without being told what to do.
to long in the PAYE sector I guess.
ah well I tried

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Re: NRC Xpert Merger
« Reply #66 on: March 05, 2018, 05:08:34 pm »
although I'll never join a app ether, I have a lot less hathered for them then I do for the radio scum.
i hope some day soon , the apps will wipe the floor with these people

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Re: NRC Xpert Merger
« Reply #67 on: March 05, 2018, 06:29:45 pm »
Possibly a more realistic objective. There's a good few drivers that prefer to pay €200 commission (plus bribery expense) than €100 freight (inc bribery expense). As FDS used to remind us, there's a reason we drive cabs for a living.

I don't think drivers work for dispatch firms because they spent too long in the PAYE sector. I didn't spend long as a PAYE worker myself. I think it's more to do with collective marketing.
If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

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Re: NRC Xpert Merger
« Reply #68 on: March 05, 2018, 06:41:46 pm »
you reckon ? ah your probably right

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Re: NRC Xpert Merger
« Reply #69 on: March 06, 2018, 09:03:12 pm »
I’m definitely driving the taxi longer than I spent in PAYE. When you go out DM you are truely on your own. With a radio you can get assistance via a panic button. Apps don’t have that either.

Cab companies will always be needed, whether in the current radio form or app form.

As Rats said, MyTaxi have said their top drivers are paying €250 in commission but wouldn’t pay a radio €100 because of back door work. I guarantee you their is back door work in apps as well. It’s all algorithms that they use to assign work. MyTaxis rank and ambassador system is the best example of how easy it is to give certain drivers Moreno work and they just admitted recently that prebooks were set to show work near you, not the good runs but just jobs near you.

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Re: NRC Xpert Merger
« Reply #70 on: March 06, 2018, 09:48:31 pm »
If MT's business model would allow them to cap commission permanently at €75 or 36 jobs they would have a good chance of wiping out non taxi renting traditional despatched. I think.
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Re: NRC Xpert Merger
« Reply #71 on: March 06, 2018, 09:52:25 pm »
36 jobs at the average fare of €20(they say)leaves a driver paying commission of €86 which is equivalent to radio companies. Would be bad if you got 36 jobs though.

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Re: NRC Xpert Merger
« Reply #72 on: March 06, 2018, 10:09:14 pm »
If MT's business model would allow them to cap commission permanently at €75 or 36 jobs they would have a good chance of wiping out non taxi renting traditional despatched. I think.
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Re: NRC Xpert Merger
« Reply #73 on: March 06, 2018, 10:12:22 pm »
I’m definitely driving the taxi longer than I spent in PAYE. When you go out DM you are truely on your own. With a radio you can get assistance via a panic button. Apps don’t have that either.

Cab companies will always be needed, whether in the current radio form or app form.

As Rats said, MyTaxi have said their top drivers are paying €250 in commission but wouldn’t pay a radio €100 because of back door work. I guarantee you their is back door work in apps as well. It’s all algorithms that they use to assign work. MyTaxis rank and ambassador system is the best example of how easy it is to give certain drivers Moreno work and they just admitted recently that prebooks were set to show work near you, not the good runs but just jobs near you.
When Ebbs tried to buy my freight from Pat Claffey, he said he'd only charge 10% commission PLUS €80+ freight. Have things changed ? And does he still offer % discounts  to Account customers ?

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Re: NRC Xpert Merger
« Reply #74 on: March 07, 2018, 02:17:10 am »
When Ebbs tried to buy my freight from Pat Claffey, he said he'd only charge 10% commission PLUS €80+ freight. Have things changed ? And does he still offer % discounts  to Account customers ?
As far as I know Plebbs charges €80 or €100, &10% on account work. I have no idea if he gives discounts to customers.

 


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