Do you mean Matt Chapman?
I don't get why Chapman (Matt) is so popular with punters, sufficiently popular to be included in ITVs racing team ahead of Bob Cooper, Alex Hammond, etc, etc. Always reminds me of a circus clown.
McCoy is the other extreme... if he was around in the 80s he woulda made Steve Davis look interesting... I'd say he'd empty a pub in record time with his monotonous nordy drone.