Rickshaws

[mercenary for hire]

Do ya remember the story about the boy who cried wolf Erm?..Why would ya settle for regulation when you don't have to.That's loser talk Dalymount.

[dalymount]

Whays lose talk ?-calling them Brazilian  drug dealers ?you are oviously not aware of the recent RTE documentry which exposes these Brazilian drug dealers

[mercenary for hire]

Asking for regulation of rickshaws is dumb.Just ban the fukking things they have no place in our industry.Just like Uber rideshare.Saying you'd accept regulation is not getting rid of them it's appeasing them and the NTA and allowing wiggle room to make them viable.

Limos are regulated and there are more and more every day covering our work.

[TheDevilHimself]

the real question we need to ask ourselves is.......... Why piss into a Fanta bottle  when you can piss into a super soaker ?

[The Liffey Lip]

THEY WILL NOT BE BANNED .Ross said he needs to talk to the Attorney General  JC Decaux have permission as part of the Dublin Bike deal to operate pedal vehicles to carry passengers .You will remember the Meteor and  7up pedal cars .There is also special pedal bikes for invalids and motorised scooters for invalides .At best they will be regulated and insured .That will put most if not all of them off the road

Johnny is probably right......hard to ban a vehicle that is pedal-driven and not insured. They get around all legislation by not asking for fares or reward and accepting voluntary donations. Several yuppies use those Dutch styled tricycle yokes to carry kids around in so the Earl of Sandyford, Ross, might be bluffing. Can't see a blanket ban being enforceable.

[dalymount]

firstly they DO NOT accept donations  {legally} they are supposed to,and the other question i would like to know is ,how did the manage to get them off the road in Galway ?

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[The Liffey Lip]

Don't know about Galway but just because the cops don't let them operate there doesn't mean it's banned. Remember how the cops were doing people for speeding by hiding behind objects not so long ago....every case appealed was thrown out. The Earl is trying to run with the hare and the hounds here as he always does. It could be a case of waiting to see what public opinion says.

[dalymount]

lips they actually ARE banned in Galway. this happened about 2 years ago. i just dont know why they cannot apply the same criteria here, for doing likewise

[dalymount]

as far as public opinion is concerned, the NTA themselves have recieved a huge number of complaints regarding public safety , from the users of the chariots

[The Liffey Lip]

Alright, I didn't know that, but banning would require a nationwide cap...I would have thought....Ross is not Minister for Dublin transport if you get me. He's up to some thing Dalymount....he always is. The school near me lost out on funding because Wesley college is in his constituency....plenty of comfortable yummy-mummies and daddies use those tricycle yokes at the weekends to ferry Tarquin and Alexandra around to polo practice and piano lessons....you must have seen them....

[dalymount]

yes it does seem rather strange how they could ban them in Galway , and not in Dublin as far as i remember this issue came before DCC last year, and the chance was there then to ban them. but the push bike, and sandles brigade of Cuff, and Keegen were having none of it

[john m]

Ill try again Donnybrook.When JC Decaux done the deal with DCC they were given consent to operate pedalcars .As a result of that contract JCDecaux would sue DCC for millions if they introduced a ban on pedalcars .Rickshaws CANNOT be banned by law as there is no such thing in law as a Rickshaw .So first what will need to happen is a legal definition of Pedalcars will have to be defined then when that definition is reached there will be lobbying by the Wheelchair association and other vested interests then court challenges then the Government will have to introduce a bill .The reason Galway banned them is because there was no impediment to them introducing a by law but in dublin the Council have an existing contract with JCDecaux which prevents them bringing in any blanket ban .Ross knows this and has said he will ban them as soon as the Attorney General gives him the Go ahead which he wont .The end result will be a low standard probably only brakes lights registration plate and insurance and the taxithingey will oversee the regs .Rickshaws WILL NOT be banned they will be regulated .Downside for taxi drivers is the regulations will be nationalso every city town or large village will have legal Rickshaws .The lads in the Carrages at Guinness wont be Pleased .

[The Liffey Lip]

Makes sense now.  Learn something new every day.

[dalymount]

john
were health, and safety issues are now recorded against these operators,does this not supercede any legal obligations to fullfillthis contract ?

[john m]

john
were health, and safety issues are now recorded against these operators,does this not supercede any legal obligations to fullfillthis contract ?

NO it just means they need to be standards applied or in common parlance regulation .