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Re: UBER
« Reply #45 on: June 28, 2018, 04:10:31 pm »
Dunno

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Re: UBER
« Reply #46 on: June 29, 2018, 10:09:15 am »
Get with the programme, TD42. It's already allowed here. mytaxi are doing it, we just don't have enough hackneys/minicabs for anyone to give a fuck.



Ride share is not here
That's the worry ordinary people no psv driving people around
That's the big picture and our downfall

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Re: UBER
« Reply #47 on: June 29, 2018, 12:01:36 pm »
Rideshare isn't in London either so it won't get here by following London, will it?
If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

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Re: UBER
« Reply #48 on: June 29, 2018, 08:43:52 pm »
Rideshare isn't in London either so it won't get here by following London, will it?

No but it's their aim here is my point
Ubers goal here is ride share

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Re: UBER
« Reply #49 on: June 30, 2018, 09:07:36 am »
Uber’s aim is to stop hemorrhaging money. The founder is gone and so is the idealology of taxis are evil.

He obviously got fucked out of a fare few over the years.

Let’s try understand this logic.

I’m going to create a company that will decimate a particular industry and make loadsa money out of it but create loadsa misery for everyone that uses it

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Re: UBER
« Reply #50 on: June 30, 2018, 11:15:34 am »
There's probably a good case for Rideshare in rural areas. Maybe a local are hackney or something like that might work?
If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

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Re: UBER
« Reply #51 on: July 02, 2018, 03:54:54 pm »
Maybe it's time to look again at an Uber-style taxi system.

Last week, London agreed to give Uber a licence. It means quicker pickups at a lower cost.

In Ireland, the company can't operate a similar system. But how long will that last?

Dublin badly needs something that works more efficiently than our present setup. In particular, the country's capital - which is in the midst of an economic boom - needs a system that can respond to predictable surges in demand.

At present, what we have just isn't fit for purpose.

In Dublin, it is now the norm for a business person to wait 45 minutes or an hour for a taxi. If it rains - unlikely in Ireland, I know - it's even worse.

Anyone reading this who has attended a conference or business event in the capital in recent months will know what I'm talking about. It's often a lottery for overseas business travellers as to whether they will get a taxi back to the airport in time.

This isn't the fault of individual taxi drivers, or even the companies. The legal system governing taxis simply isn't keeping up with the needs of the rest of society.

Last week, I spent some time in Seattle, a city that is booming in a similar way to Dublin.

The West Coast city has many pluses and minuses. But even without a New York or London style metro service, it's always possible to get somewhere within 30 minutes.

This is because the city, like many American cities, has fessed up to the realisation that it is not going to lay down substantial public transport systems. But because it also doesn't want everyone reaching to buy their own car, it allows for hire systems such as Uber and Lyft.


These companies are essentially comprised of private-hire vehicles. From a macro planning perspective, the result is that young people, as well as business people, can travel quickly to almost anywhere else in the city for under $10 or $15.

This makes it far more affordable than taxi cabs. But critically, it is also superb at responding to spikes and troughs in demand. During bad weather or a large event, for example, more drivers are encouraged to respond to demand through fares being raised.

For me as a user, it's a minor pain to have to pay $9 instead of $7 to get to where I need to go. But it's worth it to know I'm guaranteed to get a lift within 15 or 20 minutes.

Dublin faces a similar problem to Seattle. At this point, we need to accept that we're not going to invest substantially in public transport systems to meet our growing population.

This is regrettable, but at least it's clear.

Yes, we have buses and a small handful of light rail routes (serving a few narrow slivers of the city). I'm an avid user of this infrastructure whenever possible, especially the bus (which is arguably the most efficient form of public transport available).

But when travelling to other places in the city for work-related purposes, I'll almost always plan to walk. This isn't because I'm any kind of fitness fanatic, but because it's usually quicker and always more reliable than any other option available, unless it's to an office near the 10pc of the city covered by light rail. In other words, I know for sure where I'll be within 30 or 40 minutes, instead of wondering whether my taxi will turn up within that time.

This doesn't mean that Uber's exact model is necessarily the answer.

The taxi industry's objections to Uber-style services are not without warrant. In particular, there have been problems with safety in Uber both in the US and in Europe.

But it should not be outside the ability of regulators and legislators to come up with more robust safety systems.

There is also the issue of job security and wages. The kind of competition that an Uber-style service would bring would put pressure on the upper end of a taxi driver's earnings.

As such, representatives of the industry have every right - and even a duty - to protect their livelihoods.

But some of these arguments were the same ones used more than a decade ago when taxi services were liberalised. Younger readers may not recall it, but the 1990s saw a protected system where taxi plates could be bought and sold for €100,000 because they were rare, controlled assets.

Because of this, it was normal to wait one or two hours for a taxi during busy times. It was disastrous and unsustainable.

At the time of liberalisation, taxi drivers blocked the streets in protest. Ultimately, though, the Government had to act. It had to balance the (legitimate) claims of individual taxi drivers with the needs of the rest of society.

To be fair, it's arguably not quite as bad now as it was then. But it's considerably worse than a few years ago. The maddening aspect of it is that the difficulties are for entirely logical and predictable reasons - economic growth.

Given that we clearly do not intend to meet that need with proportionately increased public transportation, we probably should start thinking about an alternative method.

That means a new tech platform that's fundamentally different from the old Hailo-style ceilings our current taxi system limits itself to.

It means acting before a new generation of young workers come to the conclusion that their parents formed years ago - that the only way to get guaranteed flexible transportation around the city is to drive yourself into work every day.


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Re: UBER
« Reply #52 on: July 02, 2018, 03:59:35 pm »
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In Ireland, the company can't operate a similar system. But how long will that last?

Yes it can. mytaxi uses hackneys - known as PHVs or Minicabs in London. Uber has just chosen not to, probably because there isn't enough to bother with.

Another illiterate moron working for the indefuckinpendent.
If it doesn't have a roof sign and door stickers it's not a taxi.

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Re: UBER
« Reply #53 on: July 02, 2018, 04:35:14 pm »
"""""This doesn't mean that Uber's exact model is necessarily the answer.""""


So he'd like Uber but not their exact model????
What the fuck do you want ya fucktard

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Re: UBER
« Reply #54 on: July 02, 2018, 06:02:54 pm »
"""""This doesn't mean that Uber's exact model is necessarily the answer.""""


So he'd like Uber but not their exact model????
What the fuck do you want ya fucktard



So a taxi operator jumps  through all the hoops to stay  compliant on the road.
What would be the point if any sham in a Toyota Prius and a smart phone can just do the same.
comparing the traffic in Seattle to the traffic in Dublin. He he.

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Re: UBER
« Reply #55 on: July 02, 2018, 06:58:45 pm »
In Dublin, it is now the norm for a business person to wait 45 minutes or an hour for a taxi. If it rains - unlikely in Ireland, I know - it's even worse

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Not true,3 AM on a weekend night is the only time when there's a bit of a wait and that's only around a gig or in the Harcourt St  area,in which between the hours 3AM and 5 AM roughly 7000 people are looking for cabs at the one time in a Street where often cars aren't allowed drive down by Gardai for fear of running over a drunk pleb.

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Re: UBER
« Reply #56 on: July 02, 2018, 06:59:33 pm »
Adrian hasn't a fukin clue...there's no way it takes 45 mins to get a cab in Dublin with the apps.He's probably comparing the shitty service offered by Lynk who the folks in the Indo seem to praise uneccesarilly.Customers have moved on to apps a long time ago.

Also people need to stop hiding down some laneway or out the back of some housing estate with their smartphones hoping a taxi might pass by.Go out to the main road you'll have a cab in minutes.Dumb people with smartphones are the problem.

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Re: UBER
« Reply #57 on: July 02, 2018, 07:33:45 pm »
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In Ireland, the company can't operate a similar system. But how long will that last?

Yes it can. mytaxi uses hackneys - known as PHVs or Minicabs in London. Uber has just chosen not to, probably because there isn't enough to bother with.

Another illiterate moron working for the indefuckinpendent.
Weckler must have been fired from the! SBP.
Tech Reporter there. UBER have deep pockets.
Ex top civil servant John Moran is a Lobbyist for Uber too.

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Re: UBER
« Reply #59 on: July 02, 2018, 09:35:17 pm »
"""""This doesn't mean that Uber's exact model is necessarily the answer.""""


So he'd like Uber but not their exact model????
What the fuck do you want ya fucktard



So a taxi operator jumps  through all the hoops to stay  compliant on the road.
What would be the point if any sham in a Toyota Prius and a smart phone can just do the same.
comparing the traffic in Seattle to the traffic in Dublin. He he.
What I’m referencing is that he wants Uber but not their exact model.

That’s like asking for a Whooper in Burger King that wasn’t flame grilled

IDIOT(not you sclass but the person that wrote the piece

 


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