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[markmiwurdz]

Heard a theory they might put the kids one by one into a sealed water tight torpedo/coffin type container with oxygen  and pull or push them out,make it the size of the tallest kid and then you know they'll all fit in it.

Sounds plausible until you consider how to adjust the buoyancy of the capsule and the non linear tunnels. The media can`t even describe the masks properly, they`re not OXYGEN masks , they`re just full fave diving masks. Divers don`t breathe oxygen generally, it`s just compressed air. Oxygen /Nitrox is used for decompression stops. (Special Forces use Oxygen Rebreathers ,LAR Vs and other mixed gas RBs )

They would have to be accompanied throughout by diver(s) to ease it around bends and such might be one way?

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

Heard a theory they might put the kids one by one into a sealed water tight torpedo/coffin type container with oxygen  and pull or push them out,make it the size of the tallest kid and then you know they'll all fit in it.

Sounds plausible until you consider how to adjust the buoyancy of the capsule and the non linear tunnels. The media can`t even describe the masks properly, they`re not OXYGEN masks , they`re just full fave diving masks. Divers don`t breathe oxygen generally, it`s just compressed air. Oxygen /Nitrox is used for decompression stops. (Special Forces use Oxygen Rebreathers ,LAR Vs and other mixed gas RBs )

They would have to be accompanied throughout by diver(s) to ease it around bends and such might be one way?

They`d need to be able to adjust buoyancy . Each litre volume of airspace needs 1kg of lead weight to make it neutrally buoyant. Not impossible to do .

[Belker]

These are young boys we are talking about, boys who have already survived 10 days in the dark with no food.
Judging by my own small fella (16) there isin't really a lot that he could not learn with an hours training.
If'n my small fella was in that cave, then I would say "Teach him how to dive" and I would be 100% sure
that he would make it out.
The monsoon rains may come down heavy at any time and flood that cave entirely,
young lads like this Wild Boar soccer team are as tough as nails, teach em how to dive,
they will make it allright. God Bless em.

[dalymount]

Lets hope so,ill say a prayer for their safe return

[Belker]

Judging by the video, these are all fine fit young soccer playing lads (like me own small fella),
they are all street-wise and tough as Fook, I'm confident that the likes of Rick Stanton and Co
will get them all out. In my Prayers boys.

[dalymount]

Both they,and their parents must be very anxious

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

"Teach him how to dive" and I would be 100% sure
that he would make it out.
The monsoon rains may come down heavy at any time and flood that cave entirely,
young lads like this Wild Boar soccer team are as tough as nails, teach em how to dive,
they will make it allright. God Bless em.

There are a couple of things straight away that can cause panic in a novice diver. The water pressure presses on the ear drum and it`s corrected by what`s called the Valsalva manouever , the diver needs to stay ahead of the increased pressure change , not something you can learn practically on dry land. If this happens, the ear drum will implode , very painful, causing vertigo and nausea. The other is most people when first diving have a tendency to inhale subconciusly through the nose. This results in sucking the mask closer to the face causing a gag reflex and the feeling you can`t breathe which causes panic.

They may end up using something like the Kirby Morgan helmet .      https://www.divehelmets.com/products/500-010-kirby-morgan-superlite-sl-17b-diving-helmet These are a surface supplied helmet but can be adapted to take a scuba tank.

[The Liffey Lip]

Plenty of Irishmen go down to Thailand looking for a hole and 12 boys.
Might explain why the ranks are empty in January.

Dead right there.....something tells me this whole debacle is staged and there'll be a mini-series on HBO. People prefer to worry about problems thousands of miles from their own doors.

[Bob Shillin]

1 rescuer dead.

[Vikkiz]

1 rescuer dead.

Apparently he ran out of oxygen, while installing oxygen tanks along the route

[Belker]

A lot of things changed overnight, most especially the death of the experienced Thai diver Saman Kunan, 38 (RIP) in the same channel that the boys are supposed to make their escape through.
And now it would seem the oxygen levels in the cave are falling and the monsoon rains are due on Saturday.

It's like playing 'Russian roulette' with the options being 'Dive' or 'Stay' and the stakes being 13 young lives.

It's a terrible decision that someone has to make, fer me I would still go with the Dive option but with nothing like the same confidence that I had a few days ago, God bless em all.

[Belker]

But amid the sadness of the day, FIFA’s president Gianni Infantino offered a glimmer of hope for the boys.

“If, as we all hope, they are reunited with their families in the coming days and their health allows them to travel, FIFA would be delighted to invite them to attend the 2018 World Cup final in Moscow as our guests,” he wrote in a letter to the Football Association of Thailand.

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

1 rescuer dead.

Apparently he ran out of oxygen, while installing oxygen tanks along the route

The drop tanks contain air not oxygen, each tank has a regulator attached (or should have) so running out of air shouldn`t be a problem. Oxygen is used as a deco gas from 6m to surface. At 6m the partial pressure of O2 is 1.6 , prolonged use of O2 at this depth can cause an oxygen toxicity event (yes, Oxygen is toxic) so the diver is unlikely to have had a scuba tank with O2 . He may have been using an O2 Rebreather in which case he may have had a toxicity hit resulting in drowning. Diving is inherently dangerous, even with years of training and experience.

[Belker]

Whats your call Bubba, dive or stay ?

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

Whats your call Bubba, dive or stay ?

I`m glad it`s not my call Ken. There`s a lot of info that`s not in the public domain, cave diving is more dangerous than open water diving by a factor of 10. I was a mixed gas qualified diver and an instructor and I can tell you straight, this is a "fucked if you do,fucked if you don`t" type of call. Hopefully ,as I said earlier, the "Navy Seal`s" egos don`t rule the decision making process (one dead already, R.I.P.), the best men to run this are the British divers that found the lads.