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Re: Brexir
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2018, 04:30:33 PM »
MFH I have already said I understand young people's perspective on it. I totally accept you,and others like you, knew no other Ireland except one that was always a member of the EU.i don't think you should dismiss the views of older people in the way you have though,some of us have values far beyond economic benefits the EU. Give us. For instance I like to think that in view of the current housing situation that Irish people will be housed first, this is not the case.i also like to think that when a company recruits it will look to the Irish work force first , and pay the proper minimum rate ,instead of hiring foreigners for less then HALF. The rate.i like to think that our own people can avail of medical cards instead of them being handed out to foreigners upon arrival in this country,I like to think that when these people come here and apply for a taxi licence,they will be subject to the same vetting procedure's and Irish people .I like to think that the same level of testing for said licence will equally apply to foreigners as it does to Irish people ,with no influence from the immigrant council of Ireland being asserted etc etc

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Re: Brexir
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2018, 04:59:28 PM »
They have to pass the same taxi test as us.Unless you can prove otherwise then you're just guessing they're cheating the system.Why stress over stuff you'll never be able to change behind the wheel.

They should fuk a load of the Irish off the housing list too.Many have never worked a day in their lives but still want enough kids to fill a transit and a free gaff.Cut welfare in half for 5 years and watch them all take jobs that immigrants would only touch.I don't think I'll be getting Leos job anytime soon though...


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Re: Brexir
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2018, 05:39:53 PM »
Well maybe you can explain how they are passing the test considering some of them cannot even speak fukking English ?  Regarding the Irish people you say should never worked in their lives,and should have their sole money taken from them,there are a good few on here would disagree with you on that,I can think of one in particular who says he was treated deplorably by the state,while foreigners enjoyed the benefits of his income tax money

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Re: Brexir
« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2018, 05:42:10 PM »
A strongly worded letter to The Irish Times is warranted.
"Ring the bells that still can ring, forget your perfect offering, there is a crack in everything, that's how the light gets in". LC

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Re: Brexir
« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2018, 06:17:11 PM »
I don't care if people disagree with me.That's their right.The taxi test isn't an English test...thankfully...

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Re: Brexir
« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2018, 06:45:42 PM »
Ok whatever

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Re: Brexir
« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2018, 06:52:07 PM »
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« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2018, 07:21:55 PM »
Your average Brit is living in the past or their image of the past .British history as we know in Ireland was servitude the Aristocricy owned all the property and the people supplied the labour .Read Dickins Bleak House Oliver Twist .The Poor existed to serve the rich .people lived in hovels or if they were working lived in tennements Most people worked 60 hours a week to earn enough to eat ,a lot of jobs in mills or mines came with a house or Tied Cottage if you lost your job your family lost their house that was the working mans lot up to the 1900 s .It was only after WW1 that the welfare state came into being and that was a bribe to stop angry people rise up against the government after millions of men were slaughtered to defend the British Aristocracy and their property against German Socialism or Russian Bolshovism.The British made their fortune from robbing the rest of the Empire .The Brits misrepresent the meaning of Great Brittain they thinkit means they are or were Great but the prefix Great came from the name France gave to them as Great Brittany or the big bit of Brittany that was separated from the mainland of France ,France always considered Britain as a French Island .

 Britain lost both World Wars but believed they won them .They won the fighting part but lost the Peace .After WW2 millions of working men dead and the country in bits the Great Winston Churchill invited men from the commonwealth or Empire who had fought for Britain tocome and work and rebuild the country .He falsly believed that they would come earn a packet and fuck off back to where they came but they didnt they stayed .That is what Brexit is about nothing at all to do with Europe it is all about identity and race .

 The Brexiteers used every lie and falsehood in the book to feed the idea that Brexit would mean that they would all go home but now the people realize that Paddy The Pole or Fernando the Tango dancer are not welfare spongers but low wage workers who work for less money than your average unemployed waster gets in welfare payments .The promise of 300 million a day extra for the NHS was bollox .

People forget the reason that Britain joined the Common Market .It was Bankrupt the IMF were running the country and Ted Heath saw a chance to get funded by the EEC just like we did and every other country in the Eu did .Its a ponzy scheme .Or as Economists say extend and pretend .You give somebody credit best example a credit card your limit is 2000 you spend it but cannot afford to repay it so your CC company ask you for a minimum payment you pay that and a few months later they ask you would you like to raise your credit limit .They never want the money back they just want you to keep paying interest .If you pay them back the money then they need to find somebody else to borrow it .

 Now the problem with Brexit is and its simple .If the Uk leave the EU who will loan them the money they need to run the country .It costs more money to run the UK than they take in in taxes so they need to borrow every year to pay pensions dole run hospitals schools just to keep the show on the road .Borris Reece Mogg and the Tory Elites who probably made their family Fortune back in the Colonial Days have been brought up on the family legends of how they plundered the Empire and the daft cunts believe that the Empire would once again flock to them if they flung off the EU shackles .Now they have found out Canada ,India Pakistan USA most of africa dont want anything to do with them They have nothing to sell .Their engineering Shipbuilding industries are gone to Asia they cannot grow enough food for themselves so have nothing to export .The only people that will gain from Britain leaving the EU are the Elites who will short sell stocks and shares and currencies in the hope that the British economy crashes .The fella who lost his job in the car factory or coal mine or steelmill wont benifit his job is gone to somebody ,somewhere in the world that will do his job for less thats the simple truth .Brexit is just an opportunity for the Big Banks investors vulture funds to assett strip Britain before the fuck off and invest in the future which is China India Pakistan Africa The same shit with Trump .The Elites know Europe the USA the Far East has been scourged of every penny they are indebted up to their eyeballs and its time to move on to pastures Green .Trump and the Yanks know the Day of the Almighty Dollar is over China scares the shit out of them and India is waiting to Grow then Africa .Trump is trying to prevent the Fall of the Dollar .

 Brexit was just a chance for the Brits to stick their toe in the water to see if they had any friends now they know they havent watch as they try to backtrack .Your unemployed waster in the North of England now knows that his dole and housing benifits are gone if the Uk leave the EU your pensioner living ion Tenerife is frightened he wont be able to collect his pension or use his medical card if they leave the Eu .Brexit was just like a poker player going all in without a hand getting called but now wants to take back his money and say he didnt mean to bet .The only thing that defines countries now are what song the sing in the Eurovision or what colour their Away Jersey is .Individual countries no longer exist you are members of a bigger group or you are nothing or American .

 Watch Turkey if you want to know Britains Future outside of the EU no country can stand up to the big banks .




So you've covered
WW1
WW2
Churchill,
The Commonwealth,
All the way to Brexit,
Are ye any good at making a stew.
I'd say you throw every fukking thing into it, tasting like sludge.
just like your post,

I would have thought you believe in democracy,
The people of UK voted out.
now what part of that do you not understand,
The people knew exactly what they were voting for,

Unlike us fools when we joined.
We were sold a crock of shit when we voted to join the EEC.
We were continuously feed a false utopia , which im time has turned out to be lies and deceit.
Billions and billions of our fish stock now depleted, thousands of Citizens with no roof over their head,

Don't remember voting to include Lithuania, Latvia Estonia,
Slovakia Hungary,
And the worst shithole of all Romania,
Not one of them with a pot to piss in.
None of those kips have a social welfare like we have,
The EU is a kip,
Oh young people are now starting to speak out against foreigners
Most haven't a chance in hell of getting on the property Ladder,
stories of married families moving back in with their parents,
Because they can't afford the exorbitant rents, forced on them by greedy  unscrupulous landlords.
We live in hope the cesspit will implode, when Great Britain take there country back.
Sooner than later.




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Re: Brexir
« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2018, 09:51:13 PM »
Sclass I really want Brexiteers to happen,but when you have people like Hesseltiine ,Blair ,and others who cannot seem to accept the will of the people it's hard to see it going ahead,but as you said we live in hope.i also hope the great American president Mr Trump gives the British a great deal,then They can give 2 fingers to Barnier,Junker,and the rest of those unelected scumbags who have taken our sovereignty

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Re: Brexir
« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2018, 10:11:48 PM »
 
A strongly worded letter to The Irish Times is warranted.
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« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2018, 10:36:14 PM »
Sclass I really want Brexiteers to happen,but when you have people like Hesseltiine ,Blair ,and others who cannot seem to accept the will of the people it's hard to see it going ahead,but as you said we live in hope.i also hope the great American president Mr Trump gives the British a great deal,then They can give 2 fingers to Barnier,Junker,and the rest of those unelected scumbags who have taken our sovereignty

Harold Cringlington married Margaret Montgomery .He thought Yi Ei a canny lass fuckes like a coalminers Donkey .But when he marries her she sleeps in the other room..He says Fur Fuk sake I thought I would ride her like a rented donkey .Now he knows what he thought he was getting is not what he got .So he changes his mind and divorces her .Thats Brexit Your unemployed waster from north of Watford didnt realise that the EU is actually paying his dole and free housing .If Paddy the Pole has to go home the problem is will work shy Brits do the jobs or will the tax take go so low that benifits are cut .If there was a new vote as there should be because the Brits were lied to as they are one of the stupitest races on earth after the Yanks would vote about 73 /36 in favour of remaining .Some of you educationally subnormal fucktards dont realize if Brexit goes ahead Ireland will be collateral damage or economy will collapse .WTF do you think the Gay Foreigner is hoping that the EU deals with the border issue .If the Topic was how much spunk should a teenage boy swallow the cunt would have an opinion but when it comes to border on the Island of Ireland the Gay Leader wants the EU to do the deal .Grow the Fuck Up there are farms in Australia bigger than Ireland and Manchester has more people in the City than Ireland has in the country .

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« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2018, 01:29:43 AM »
MFH I have already said I understand young people's perspective on it. I totally accept you,and others like you, knew no other Ireland except one that was always a member of the EU.i don't think you should dismiss the views of older people in the way you have though,some of us have values far beyond economic benefits the EU. Give us. For instance I like to think that in view of the current housing situation that Irish people will be housed first, this is not the case.i also like to think that when a company recruits it will look to the Irish work force first , and pay the proper minimum rate ,instead of hiring foreigners for less then HALF. The rate.i like to think that our own people can avail of medical cards instead of them being handed out to foreigners upon arrival in this country,I like to think that when these people come here and apply for a taxi licence,they will be subject to the same vetting procedure's and Irish people .I like to think that the same level of testing for said licence will equally apply to foreigners as it does to Irish people ,with no influence from the immigrant council of Ireland being asserted etc etc

I'm a lot younger than MFH and I am totally against the EU and support and Irexit, or at the very least total reform including immigration controls and reverting back to the EEC arrangement.

Many people my age and younger think the same as me, we see Ireland changing and it's not for the better. Some things are more sacred than chasing the dollar such as family, culture, National identity and National sovereignty as without those you can not have any real social cohesion or economic stability.

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« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2018, 01:31:36 AM »
They have to pass the same taxi test as us.Unless you can prove otherwise then you're just guessing they're cheating the system.Why stress over stuff you'll never be able to change behind the wheel.

They should fuk a load of the Irish off the housing list too.Many have never worked a day in their lives but still want enough kids to fill a transit and a free gaff.Cut welfare in half for 5 years and watch them all take jobs that immigrants would only touch.I don't think I'll be getting Leos job anytime soon though...

Of course they cheat, an Indian was caught a few years ago giving answers to test takers remotely, they reckoned he made over half a million euro from the racket....but that news story was very quickly brushed under the carpet, we would be naive and idiotic to think that was a one off.

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« Reply #28 on: August 14, 2018, 02:40:12 AM »
Sclass I really want Brexiteers to happen,but when you have people like Hesseltiine ,Blair ,and others who cannot seem to accept the will of the people it's hard to see it going ahead,but as you said we live in hope.i also hope the great American president Mr Trump gives the British a great deal,then They can give 2 fingers to Barnier,Junker,and the rest of those unelected scumbags who have taken our sovereignty

Harold Cringlington married Margaret Montgomery .He thought Yi Ei a canny lass fuckes like a coalminers Donkey .But when he marries her she sleeps in the other room..He says Fur Fuk sake I thought I would ride her like a rented donkey .Now he knows what he thought he was getting is not what he got .So he changes his mind and divorces her .Thats Brexit Your unemployed waster from north of Watford didnt realise that the EU is actually paying his dole and free housing .If Paddy the Pole has to go home the problem is will work shy Brits do the jobs or will the tax take go so low that benifits are cut .If there was a new vote as there should be because the Brits were lied to as they are one of the stupitest races on earth after the Yanks would vote about 73 /36 in favour of remaining .Some of you educationally subnormal fucktards dont realize if Brexit goes ahead Ireland will be collateral damage or economy will collapse .WTF do you think the Gay Foreigner is hoping that the EU deals with the border issue .If the Topic was how much spunk should a teenage boy swallow the cunt would have an opinion but when it comes to border on the Island of Ireland the Gay Leader wants the EU to do the deal .Grow the Fuck Up there are farms in Australia bigger than Ireland and Manchester has more people in the City than Ireland has in the country .

I know you mean well with your sentiments and I can tell that you really think you know what you're talking about but in every post you make it's very clear that you have no idea how economies really work, the business environment or markets, not to mention the impact of declining social cohesion.

I'm going to hit you with a few facts but I suspect they will bounce off of your nut because your brain has been infected with liberal lefty nonsense which usually leads to a sort of inability to process logic or reason not to mention the propensity to totally disregard facts in defence of your absurd leftist ideology.

First and foremost, the EU doesn't pay fuck all for anyone, the EU is totally funded by taxpayers, the British taxpayers are the third largest contributors to EU funds next to France and Germany.

Secondly, your jibe directed at "unemployed waster" is far more likely to be a Pakistani or African migrant rather than a Native Brit. Just one in five Muslims in the UK work, now wipe the lefty froth from your lip and take a minute to digest that fact.

The native Brits by far outweigh all others when it comes to menial work and physical labour so your little false stereotype of "workshy" Brits just doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Also, if you were even half as informed as you think you are you would realise that just because the UK leaves the EU that doesn't mean freedom of movement of Irish people will be affected, the Irish have always enjoyed freedom of movement to the UK and this will remain as laid out in the government of Ireland Act 1949 so Brexit makes absolutely no difference to us.

As for the poles etc. The Brits have never said they want to repatriate any Europeans, they just want the ability to control numbers in line with labour market needs which is exactly what Ireland needs to do, do we really need any more toilet attendants, taxi drivers, security guards, cleaners?

Your economic illiteracy is very transparent and its clear your worldview is formed partially by the Sun/Mirror/brainless rag and partly by the controlled mainstream media, there's a good reason for the description of TV's as "dummy box's"

The head man of the WTO (World Trade Organisation) has come out just last week to state that he forsees no economic difficulty for the UK post Brexit....but I guess you and your leftard mates know better than him?

Economist Liam Halligan states “Under the common external tariff, our customers pay huge EU tariffs on food, clothing, and footwear and they are all goods that are disproportionately present in the baskets of lower income households.
“So outside the customs union, they’d disappear.” But I guess you and your leftard mates know better than the Economist?

A few more facts on the EU,
54% of inmates in Greek jails are non Nationals
32% in Italian inmates are non Nationals
40% of all rapes committed in Italy are done by foreigners.
53% of all inmates in Austria are foreign-born.
Primary schools in Berlin have to hire security to prevent migrants from entering the schools.
44% of inmates in Belgium are non Nationals.
38% of inmates in Parisian prisons are non Nationals, although France like Germany have initiated a new programme of not taking note of the ethnicity of offenders...I wonder why  ???
Between 2014 and 2017, 4 million illegal migrants entered Europe, most of whom are young Muslim men.

Almost 10,000 asylum applications have been made in Ireland in the last 4 years, 90% of whom are bogus asylum seekers but that won't stop them getting access to taxpayer-funded housing, food, clothing, health care, education and now the labour market...all during the worst housing crisis this state has ever seen. Oh and do not forget the new "family repatriation scheme" were bogus asylum seekers can individually bring over 70 members of their extended family to live in Ireland.

In the Netherlands, more than half of Moroccan - Dutch male youth aged 18 to 24 years have at
some stage been investigated by police, compared to a quarter of native male youths.
62.2 percent of detainees are foreigners, of which 44 percent have a non-
Western heritage. A person is considered to be “local” if both of his or her parents were born in the
Netherlands (second generation immigrants are therefore not considered “foreign” for purposes
of this statistic).60 (crazy)

More than five thousand (5000) individuals from the EU are believed to have travelled to conflict
areas in Syria and Iraq. Individuals from Belgium, France, Germany and the UK account for the
majority of this total.

According to the Frontex Risk Analysis for 2018, a significant 88 percent of all interviewed
migrants reported that they had been facilitated to complete their journey.
The top ranking nationalities of
facilitators were Libyan, Syrian, Iraqi, Turkish and Afghan. Importantly, however the vast majority
of facilitators operated mainly in two countries: Turkey (37 percent) and Libya (30 percent)

In 2015, the
migrant smuggling business generated an estimated 4.7-5.7 billion Euros. According to Europol
in 2015, 90 percent of the migrants paid for Organized Crime Groups, in general between 3000-
6000 US Dollars. This strongly suggests that nearly all the illegal migrants use the service offered
by criminal networks at some point during their journey. In 2015 over one million, in 2016 more
than 510 000 illegal border crossings between border-crossing points at the external border of
the EU were registered. (And these are the ones we know about)

Knife crime in London from Jan 2015 to Jan 2016, Of the total number of 2782 knife crimes,
a majority of 1614 cases involve perpetrators with a migrant background versus 658 people of
native British origin.

Tope 10 migrant groups responsible for crime in Germany.
1. Romania
2. Syria
3. Afghanistan
4. Algeria
5. Turkey
6. Morocco
7. Albania
8. Poland
9. Iraq
10. Georgia

Only 18% of illegals who were ordered to leave Ireland actually left or were deported, in other words over 4 out of 5 illegal migrants are still roaming our streets.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KG7WBod8WJ6Yy1HHIkjllLRUY6eFA1bs/view

If you still support open borders and EU membership after reading those stats then you're a lost cause and frankly part of the problem.
And that's just the tip of the iceberg!





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Re: Brexir
« Reply #29 on: August 14, 2018, 07:03:38 AM »
Tim...it's early in the morn here in leafy Tallaghtornia........but anyway........lots of different folks peruse this forum for diverse reasons...some are not so friendly....if you are half as smart as you think you are then you'll know that the maxim..".best to let people think you're a fool than open your mouth and confirm it" rings through every time.

Keeping it mad and zany lets the perusers think it's just an echo chamber for disaffected, disillusioned headers and most would want it that way.

There's a reason the H.Q. of Freemasonry in Ireland is on Molesworth St....named after William of Orange's ambassador to Denmark. None of the new political parties will ever get as close to Dáíl Éireann as the money men.....go further back in your studies youngfella because this is all pre-ordained and pre-destined. Firing stats at chimps is what the neo-cons like Harris and Varadkar do.....

This is a listing of the 10/11 precepts of the Frankfurt School...these academics were working on making Europe one big federal mess long before anyone had read Mein Kampf...which was written for Hitler and not by him...by one of Marx's main proponents. Getting it now....Commies and Fascists....no difference...

http://tapnewswire.com/2012/06/11-recommendations-of-frankfurt-school/

 


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