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Carbon Tax
« on: November 22, 2018, 07:40:58 pm »
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/dil-in-chaos-as-varadkar-and-martin-argue-like-children-in-carbon-tax-increase-racket-37551719.html

Kevin Doyle and John Downing
November 21 2018 1:10 PM
 
THE Dáil was on the verge of being adjourned this afternoon as Taoiseach Leo Varadkar and Fianna Fáil leader Micheál Martin sparred over carbon tax increases.
Ceann Comhairle Seán Ó Fearghaíl threatened to halt proceedings over the "racket" while People Before Profit’s Richard Boyd Barrett described the two men as "children".
 
As ordered was restored Mr Martin was seen to approach the Ceann Comhairle for a private word before walking out of the chamber.

He complained that Mr Varadkar was allowed to breach standing orders to accuse him of misleading the Dáil.

It followed a debate on whether the Taoiseach had announced in August that he would include an increase to carbon tax in Budget 2019.

Earlier, the Taoiseach Leo Varadkar publicly conceded that householders will have to pay more in carbon taxes over the coming years in efforts to meet international global warming targets.

But Mr Varadkar has insisted the Government "has no intention" of levying families with an extra €3,000 per year to cover the cost of failures to meet Ireland’s legal obligations to cut carbon tax in the battle against global warming.

The Taoiseach’s comments came during sharp exchanges with Fianna Fáil leader, Micheál Martin, who pointed to the Taoiseach’s pledge last Saturday to gradually give the average worker an extra €60 per week over the next five years via income tax cuts.

He pointed to a report today from the Economic and Social Research Institute (ESRI) on Ireland’s poor performance on meeting internationally agreed lethal targets.

During a heated debate Green Party leader, Eamon Ryan, challenged all the party leaders and TDs to state what they will do to pick up the pace on tackling global warming.

He addressed all the key party leaders by name in making this challenge.

The Taoiseach said the international carbon emissions targets would inevitably mean dearer coal, gas and electricity. He conceded that conservation measures could not really offset these increases over the first three years – but he agreed that all parties should agree a common approach.

"I’m up for that," Mr Varadkar told the Green Party leader.

The Taoiseach agreed Ireland will not meet its 2020 carbon reduction targets and would struggle to meet tougher targets committed to for 2030.

"Let me now join with Eamon Ryan and ask the leader of Fianna Fáil: will they sign up to targets for 2030," Mr Varadkar added to general consternation.

Mr Martin had challenged Mr Varadkar to outline his plans for a carbon levy over the coming five years in the same way as he had pledged the income tax cuts over five years. "When you cut taxes – other taxes go up," the Fianna Fáil leader said.

The Taoiseach said the Government was committed to tackling carbon emissions and playing its part in dealing with global warming. He conceded that this would mean an increase in various carbon taxes.

"But the ESRI are way off the mark," Mr Varadkar adding that his Government, or any other led by Fine Gael, had "no intention" of raising carbon taxes to the extent cited in today’s report.

The Taoiseach defended the income tax cuts promised at his party’s Árd Fheis last weekend.

"I believe you’re allowing people to hold on to more of the money they earned in the first place," Mr Varadkar argued.

He rejected claims by Mr Martin that next year’s modest income tax changes would be funded by the increase of VAT from 9pc to 13.5pc for hotels and catering.

The Taoiseach also said the Government would outline its carbon tax plans in the future, along lines he had outlined his income tax proposals, and he challenged Fianna Fáil to do the same thing.

Working off his iPhone, Mr Varadkar quoted himself as saying that the Government plan was to increase "the carbon tax over the next couple of years".

He said this didn’t necessarily mean next year and accused Fianna Fáil of making "false claims".

Clearly frustrated, Mr Martin shouted: "You’re not honest."

The Ceann Comhairle was forced to repeatedly intervene and threated to suspend the Dáil before order was restored.
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Re: Carbon Tax
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2018, 07:58:49 pm »
Carbon Tax....biggest con and a reminder to never let the Greens into Govt again....in the meantime China, India and the US can pollute at will....we're not driving our cars or heating our homes just for the craic.

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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2018, 09:57:08 pm »
FG thought we'd pay for water, let them think we'll pay for carbon... where does the "family" figure of €3,000/year come from? Is that the spin doctors preparing to sell us a bargain or what?
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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2018, 11:28:07 pm »
FG thought we'd pay for water, let them think we'll pay for carbon... where does the "family" figure of €3,000/year come from? Is that the spin doctors preparing to sell us a bargain or what?

By the time they add carbon tax to electricity generation ,gas,petrol,solid fuel ,transport prices like bus and train and air fares probably add a fart tax on cows that will increase meat prices .Carbon tax is just another tax on top of income tax PRSI social charge until they take exactly 50% of your earnings they wont be happy .3000 a year for a family of four is only about 18 yoyo per person a week  less than a cup of coffee per day .What did you expect when we got a spunk yodeling sodomite as leader conservatives who support abortion ramming coc up arse or fisting your girlfriend .Time to get a gun .

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Re: Carbon Tax
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2018, 11:58:28 pm »
 € 1.42 .9 for a litre of diesel,
  Nearly half of that is tax already.
  That cunt Eamon Ryan put a carbon tax on fuel when he was in bed with FF,
 Well maybe another 50 p on fuel will unite our industry in a major protest.
  A increase on the meter if it goes ahead.
 Not good atall,atall.
 

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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2018, 06:16:18 am »
FG thought we'd pay for water, let them think we'll pay for carbon... where does the "family" figure of €3,000/year come from? Is that the spin doctors preparing to sell us a bargain or what?

Yes probably. Without carbon  nothing can grow..................the biggest insult yet this shower of LGBT Green mongs have thrown at us. We even drink the fucking stuff in our sparkling water..............couldn't make this up.

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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2018, 08:22:30 am »
Its simple really Ireland sees about 20 million visitors a year by increasing carbon tax the government gets more consumer taxes off them .The fuel for the plane the bus they take the heat in the hotel will all carry carbon tax which will be passed on .There is another side to Carbon Taxes and that is Rural Cleansing .Small farmers living in the Anus of Leitrim wont be able to afford to live there so will be forced to move to the East Coast for work and to live in 32 storey high rised hovels along the Nass Road from Blackhorse to Newlands Cross and Monsanto can then buy up farms and create huge growing areas and control the supply of Food .The Harrowing of Rural Ireland goes back to the 50s when there was no work and families headed to the Mothercountry of America and to avoid paying rates they removed the Roof tiles or slates in the hope that one day they would return to the old homestead but the homes became derelict and the kids couldnt make up their minds will they play soccer for Ireland or England .Multi culturalism the Likes of Macron Veradkar Merkel the French Canadian have an agenda .The Endgame is all in war . The American Euro alliance which might include Russia the Chino Alliance which might include Russia and the Muslim World will collide and the weapons will be goods like food and water and the military aspect of the fight will be for propaganda purposes only .Kate Adie reporting that tens of thousands of enemy fighters died from something somewhere .The bottom line is the world is overpopulated we need to reduce the population by half .Probably explains the rush for autonomous cars and AI with less people on earth we will have less time to do stuff so will need the help of the Robots .Humanity is dead most of us on here would not  recognize each other on the street .Your kids have FRIENDS they never met isolation is brainwashing kids into Facebook World .

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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2018, 08:36:50 am »
Agree wholeheartedly. WW3 is in full flight............silent weapons for quiets wars. When they changed the law here to deny that a man could be raped in legal terms, I knew the war was on. Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars.

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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2018, 08:44:56 am »
Great to see the yellow vest protest in France gaining momentum. Hopefully it wiill be the end of Mcron,and my favourite lady Marine Le Pen will get into power and pull France out of the EU

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Re: Carbon Tax
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2018, 09:34:26 am »
None of this shite is goin to work... The kip is goin to burn....... The only ting they can do is Wat they do in the phoenix Park wit the deers....
Ya have to cull the human ape.... There's too many of them....
Carpet boming  you know where with chlorine gas to minimise the environment damage then
Offer a council flat to every youngfella who volunteers to be neutered at 18.
Bring in euthanasia in the form of a free  bottle of gin or whiskey laced with cyanide for anyone over 35... An anyone caught in a homosexual relationship get tax relief on account that bummin won't make babies....
We'll done thinkin outside the box
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« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2018, 09:37:16 am »
He's busy culling himself, Octy. If a man is too afraid to have sex with a woman for fear of some delayed allegation, then it's game on.

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Re: Carbon Tax
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2018, 09:43:24 am »
Ww3 has already started... Cyberwarfare....
Put 500 on every cyber security company yu can find an yur kids be able to retire in 10 years
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Re: Carbon Tax
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2018, 03:45:23 pm »
 cabron is spanish word for fuckin eejit  isnt it?

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Re: Carbon Tax
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2018, 03:49:45 pm »
Are ye shippin up to Boston Whitey?

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« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2018, 06:09:54 pm »
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The targets were set by EU leaders in 2007 and enacted in legislation in 2009. They are also headline targets of the Europe 2020 strategy for smart, sustainable and inclusive growth.

Every political party, except Sinn Fein, has had a crack at Government since 2007 and they've done nothing.  They're all talking bollox.  In fact they've made things worse by not tackling the farmers and letting the industry expand wildly in the past few years.
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