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Title: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Punter on July 14, 2020, 12:52:50 pm
https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/covid-19-unemployment-payment-to-be-phased-out-as-not-affordable-long-term-1011038.html (https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/covid-19-unemployment-payment-to-be-phased-out-as-not-affordable-long-term-1011038.html)

Looks like it will be phased out ---Leo on Newstalk early confirmed it would be eased out to allow recipients go on Social Welfare if required to make up the numbers--details to be announced with all the other goodies before end of month !
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 14, 2020, 01:01:04 pm
http://intaxi.org/forum/index.php?topic=12292.msg157553#msg157553 (http://intaxi.org/forum/index.php?topic=12292.msg157553#msg157553)
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Lizzzy on July 14, 2020, 02:01:31 pm
https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/covid-19-unemployment-payment-to-be-phased-out-as-not-affordable-long-term-1011038.html (https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/covid-19-unemployment-payment-to-be-phased-out-as-not-affordable-long-term-1011038.html)

Looks like it will be phased out ---Leo on Newstalk early confirmed it would be eased out to allow recipients go on Social Welfare if required to make up the numbers--details to be announced with all the other goodies before end of month !

Unfortunately it has become a way of life for some lads!
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 14, 2020, 04:52:18 pm
We're not just lounging around, Lizzy. When we're home we're saving the world by not spreading the virus and when we're down the bar we're saving the economy by supporting our local publicans.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: dalymount on July 14, 2020, 04:56:02 pm
We're not just lounging around, Lizzy. When we're home we're saving the world by not spreading the virus and when we're down the bar we're saving the economy by supporting our local publicans.
sounds a bit like Del boy when he was explaining to rodders how robbed paint from british rail actually helped the economy
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 14, 2020, 04:59:30 pm
A little dab will do you!
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 14, 2020, 05:01:55 pm
We're not just lounging around, Lizzy. When we're home we're saving the world by not spreading the virus and when we're down the bar we're saving the economy by supporting our local publicans.

Had a Nurse in the car this afternoon, works in Vincents A&E, says she feels safer in work than in Zara
Not sure what that has to do with what you said but hey ho
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: silverbullet on July 14, 2020, 05:04:33 pm
We're not just lounging around, Lizzy. When we're home we're saving the world by not spreading the virus and when we're down the bar we're saving the economy by supporting our local publicans.
+1.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 14, 2020, 05:09:08 pm
Zara is a shop, right? I suspect she's right... There's very little regard for social distancing or PPE in retail outlets and less in bars.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: dalymount on July 14, 2020, 05:16:24 pm
Funny enough,I was going to ask whos zara ?
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Shallowhal on July 14, 2020, 05:24:58 pm
Funny enough,I was going to ask whos zara ?

You are old!!
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: silverbullet on July 14, 2020, 05:28:36 pm
Funny enough,I was going to ask whos zara ?
Thinks Penneys is Haute couture.  8)

You are old!!
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: dalymount on July 14, 2020, 05:30:40 pm
I am old vut do I care ?  Do I,fukk
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Bob Shillin on July 14, 2020, 05:34:20 pm
So all the health workers that we are told are getting the pox, are getting it in Zara?
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: dalymount on July 14, 2020, 05:41:43 pm
Zara Zara who the fukk is Zara ? Used to be Alice
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Jack Meoff on July 14, 2020, 06:28:43 pm
My daughter worked in Zara part time when she was in college.
I asked her one day does she have a staff discount.
Her reply was “ your too old for Zara”
I then went back into my box.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Lizzzy on July 14, 2020, 06:47:28 pm
My daughter worked in Zara part time when she was in college.
I asked her one day does she have a staff discount.
Her reply was “ your too old for Zara”
I then went back into my box.

The wife dragged me into the Zara in Athlone last month. I always thought they were a ladies shop, but no there is a men's section.
There was a great sale on, I bought two very smart sports jackets, either will look great with slacks or boot cut jeans.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Jack Meoff on July 14, 2020, 06:51:18 pm
Thought the same meself that it was a ladies store.
You must be a young slim ride of a man
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Bob Shillin on July 14, 2020, 06:51:33 pm
My daughter worked in Zara part time when she was in college.
I asked her one day does she have a staff discount.
Her reply was “ your too old for Zara”
I then went back into my box.

The wife dragged me into the Zara in Athlone last month. I always thought they were a ladies shop, but no there is a men's section.
There was a great sale on, I bought two very smart sports jackets, either will look great with slacks or boot cut jeans.
Mmm "slacks", is there something that you'ld like to share with us
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 14, 2020, 06:56:17 pm
Strange how, during a pandemic, we all seem to be wandering around stores we've never been to before. I was in TK Max for the first time on Sunday. Never imagined they had a men's dept never mind homeware, toys and fuck knows what else. I nearly bought a pair of shoes but they would only sell them in same size pairs. Whatever way they're made I wanted a 10.5 left and a 10 right! I went to a fast food shop I've never been to before as well, 5 guys it was called... won't be rushing back. That's another strange one... when I ws up in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland on Thursday all the restaurants/fast food shops were drive through only, those without drive throughs were closed yet no shortage of punters queuing to get into the burger bars in Swords on Sunday.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Lizzzy on July 14, 2020, 07:02:10 pm
Thought the same meself that it was a ladies store.
You must be a young slim ride of a man

Well I don't know about that, I do get a lot of admiring glances.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Lizzzy on July 14, 2020, 07:09:12 pm
My daughter worked in Zara part time when she was in college.
I asked her one day does she have a staff discount.
Her reply was “ your too old for Zara”
I then went back into my box.

The wife dragged me into the Zara in Athlone last month. I always thought they were a ladies shop, but no there is a men's section.
There was a great sale on, I bought two very smart sports jackets, either will look great with slacks or boot cut jeans.
Mmm "slacks", is there something that you'ld like to share with us

Farah make a good pair of slacks. I'm not sure if they make them in your size Bob?
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Jack Meoff on July 14, 2020, 07:12:09 pm
Haven’t heard the Farah slacks name in years
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 14, 2020, 07:27:07 pm
I think Guineys still sell them... the erm would know, probably.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Lizzzy on July 14, 2020, 07:31:25 pm
Haven’t heard the Farah slacks name in years

You can still get them, they are not very stylish or cheap but they last for years, they are the Toyota Mark 2 Carina of trousers.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Jack Meoff on July 14, 2020, 07:47:12 pm
Best car I ever had Carina 2
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: dalymount on July 14, 2020, 07:48:37 pm
My daughter worked in Zara part time when she was in college.
I asked her one day does she have a staff discount.
Her reply was “ your too old for Zara”
I then went back into my box.

The wife dragged me into the Zara in Athlone last month. I always thought they were a ladies shop, but no there is a men's section.
There was a great sale on, I bought two very smart sports jackets, either will look great with slacks or boot cut jeans.
are ya from that neck of the woods lizzy ?
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Shallowhal on July 14, 2020, 07:51:56 pm
He says he's a Galway hooker!!
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: dalymount on July 14, 2020, 07:54:56 pm
Oh he's a Galway man
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Shallowhal on July 14, 2020, 08:56:43 pm
Man?........that "man" couldn't even get a taxi outside Vicar St...had to walk to Jurys.....Christchurch!! lol
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Justin Time on July 14, 2020, 09:55:54 pm
Cant beat a lovely pair of  Zara,stone coloured slim fit ripped jeans, with a Zara Contrast Essence Tee shirt, finished off with a stunning pair of  Zara Three Tone Deck shoes.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Bob Shillin on July 14, 2020, 10:57:08 pm
Cant beat a lovely pair of  Zara,stone coloured slim fit ripped jeans, with a Zara Contrast Essence Tee shirt, finished off with a stunning pair of  Zara Three Tone Deck shoes.
Would they be very comfortable shoes Justin? Would they go well with slacks? DM asked me to ask you.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Shallowhal on July 14, 2020, 11:07:32 pm
Fuk sakes......Brokeback fukin Mountain time!!
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Justin Time on July 15, 2020, 10:16:11 am
Cant beat a lovely pair of  Zara,stone coloured slim fit ripped jeans, with a Zara Contrast Essence Tee shirt, finished off with a stunning pair of  Zara Three Tone Deck shoes.
Would they be very comfortable shoes Justin? Would they go well with slacks? DM asked me to ask you.

Those shoes are so comfortable, you wouldn't even know you are wearing them. Would definitely recommend getting a pair.
But no, they definitely wouldnt go well with slacks, (perish the thought) in fact nothing goes well with slacks, not even the person wearing them.
Hope Ive answered your questions
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Justin Time on July 15, 2020, 10:17:51 am
Fuk sakes......Brokeback fukin Mountain time!!

What's wrong Hal?
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Shallowhal on July 15, 2020, 12:05:02 pm
Gok Wrong!!
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 15, 2020, 05:27:38 pm
Donated books and stuff to the local Vincents store recently and noticed the had a nice pair of Prada Loafers in very good nick for €40, but decided I didn't want a pair of dead mans shoes
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 15, 2020, 05:29:45 pm
Coulda been his best pair... dropped in by FDS 'cos they didn't fit?
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Shallowhal on July 15, 2020, 05:34:12 pm
Probably were FDS'sss.....found a better pair under some lucky widdas bed!!
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Octavia1 on July 19, 2020, 11:53:27 am
Rumours going around the 350 extended till at least Christmas but meehole doesn't want it ....anyone hear antin
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 19, 2020, 11:57:43 am
Rumours going around the 350 extended till at least Christmas but meehole doesn't want it ....anyone hear antin

To infinity and beyond!
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40018130.html (https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40018130.html)
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Octavia1 on July 19, 2020, 12:02:58 pm
So me question is .....an I tink rat said the other day  I can ....
 But Can I claim the free money and go back to work next month ....cause I tink the holidays is killing me  ???
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Punter on July 19, 2020, 12:41:26 pm
Look at the page where you re reg for continued payment ---entitled to claim if your trade suffered 25% loss !
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Punter on July 19, 2020, 12:46:12 pm
https://services.mywelfare.ie/en/topics/covid-19-payments/confirm-your-eligibility-for-covid-19-pandemic-unemployment-payment/
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Octavia1 on July 19, 2020, 12:53:30 pm
https://services.mywelfare.ie/en/topics/covid-19-payments/confirm-your-eligibility-for-covid-19-pandemic-unemployment-payment/
::cheers punter
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Octavia1 on July 19, 2020, 12:59:30 pm

(https://i.postimg.cc/Czv0Zk2R/Screenshot-20200719-125607-Chrome.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Czv0Zk2R)


Possibly they will put us on reduced payment job seekers or something  in August and allow us to work reading over that .......
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Punter on July 23, 2020, 05:01:13 pm
Extension of Pandemic Unemployment Payment--Gov.ie
The Pandemic Unemployment Payment, due to end in August 2020, is being extended by 7 months until 1 April 2021, giving those on emergency income support greater security as the country recovers and job opportunities return.

The Pandemic Unemployment Payment and Temporary Wage Subsidy Scheme have played a huge role in sustaining household incomes through the worst of the crisis.

Between now and April, there will be a gradual reduction in payment level, linked to previous incomes, bringing payments in line with existing social welfare levels over time.

The scheme will close to new claimants from Thursday 17 September 2020.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 23, 2020, 05:15:42 pm
Look at the page where you re reg for continued payment ---entitled to claim if your trade suffered 25% loss !

You can tell them 'till you're blue in the face, Punter. 5 mins later - on the next lap of the bowl - they'll still wonder why they can't work and claim or hope that "scumbags" working and claiming are "caught"... save your breath.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: john m on July 23, 2020, 07:22:56 pm
Clarity on working and Claiming the PUP .YOU CANNOT WORK AND CLAIM THE PUP IF YOU ARE SELF EMPLOYED .I had tea and toast with a TD this afternoon and got clarification .The anomaly in the legislation or what some perceive as an anomaly .Where it said if your income was substantially effected was referring to the condition that was applicable for qualifying for the payment and not a a loophole .The final box you were asked to tick said you have no income from self employment .That is the Qualifying criteria YOU HAVE NO INCOME FROM SELF EMPLOYMENT .
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Dr. Martin Gooter Bling on July 23, 2020, 07:29:58 pm
me bollocks.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Punter on July 23, 2020, 10:07:49 pm
In my own opinion to take credence from somebody because he is a TD is a bit naive,me I will cite time and date from the Ministers interview on PK if I am taking to task for working which I dont expect --work,if thats what you call it --tenner off street in two weeks-out from 5am---some days 2/3 jobs of FN,have had days with 1 and thats for 5 hours effort daily --working 7 days---only reason I am out is because I dont sleep past 4.30am--t/o pays for car /insurance and most Xs but not viable for anybody hoping to make a decent wage --thats the reality of situation -- --mask or no mask --screen or no screen --make your own decision--there is FA all work without decals !
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: john m on July 23, 2020, 10:13:59 pm
In my own opinion to take credence from somebody because he is a TD is a bit naive,me I will cite time and date from the Ministers interview on PK if I am taking to task for working which I dont expect --work,if thats what you call it --tenner off street in two weeks-out from 5am---some days 2/3 jobs of FN,have had days with 1 and thats for 5 hours effort daily --working 7 days---only reason I am out is because I dont sleep past 4.30am--t/o pays for car /insurance and most Xs but not viable for anybody hoping to make a decent wage --thats the reality of situation -- --mask or no mask --screen or no screen --make your own decision--there is FA all work without decals !

So you think welfare fraud is Ok because you need cash .You should be locked up for fraud and when they look for the money back your tax clearance is fucked .The Taxi man Champion Dickie Boyd Barrett says taxi driver's are fucked he is a TD he never said thank Jesus that the Great lads driving taxies can claim the PUP and work other than that they would be fucked .
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 23, 2020, 10:20:49 pm
You cannot work and claim PUP. Taxis are too easy to spot, very risky business working and claiming
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: stonethecrows on July 23, 2020, 10:41:39 pm
You cannot work and claim PUP. Taxis are too easy to spot, very risky business working and claiming
If your going to do it make sure you dont take any FN jobs or else your fcuked.

O and yes I do believe its illegal to work/earn and claim the Covid payments.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: john m on July 23, 2020, 10:44:11 pm
You cannot work and claim PUP. Taxis are too easy to spot, very risky business working and claiming

Roy people will believe what they want to believe .If they want to work and claim they will believe that they can .Some ridiculous fucktard telling you he dosent believe a TD .I was in his kitchen and he rang the Minister not the ministers helper ,secretary or office but the Minister .YOU CANNOT WORK AND CLAIM if you are self employed .Unless you employ yourself and and likely others and pay full PRSI as in Employers and employees contributions .
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Dr. Martin Gooter Bling on July 24, 2020, 02:09:48 am
https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/social_welfare_payments/unemployed_people/covid19_pandemic_unemployment_payment.html#l1f4da (https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/social_welfare_payments/unemployed_people/covid19_pandemic_unemployment_payment.html#l1f4da)

To qualify for the new COVID-19 Pandemic Unemployment Payment, you must:

Be self-employed and your trading income has ceased due to the COVID-19 public health emergency OR your trading income has collapsed to the extent that you are available to take up other full-time employment. You do not need to de-register as self-employed to get a payment.

My trading income has collapsed but I'm still plodding away. It's fucking dead during the week and there's only a bitta action at the weekend past midnight.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: john m on July 24, 2020, 05:30:30 am
I asked and quoted that but I was told .That was to Qualify meaning if your income had collapsed you could APPLY and Qualify .You are getting paid as you are still deemed to be self employed (You do not need to de-register as self-employed to get a payment.)Under Normal circumstance if you were Self Employed you would have to Cease trading to qualify for welfare but this way you would be ready to take up self employment or other employment when the economy restarted ..


I asked because I was going to go back to work .The PUP is UNEMPLOYMENT payment Not Job Subsidy .
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: john m on July 24, 2020, 06:43:52 am
Lets get it in Writing ....Dear Minister I seek clarification on an Issue .I am a licenced taxi driver in receipt of PUP .The qualifying criteria states     To qualify for the new COVID-19 Pandemic Unemployment Payment, you must:
Be self-employed and your trading income has ceased due to the COVID-19 public health emergency OR your trading income has collapsed to the extent that you are available to take up other full-time employment. You do not need to de-register as self-employed to get a payment.

The need for clarification arises through this line ( OR your trading income has collapsed to the extent that you are available to take up other full-time employment. You do not need to de-register as self-employed to get a payment.)

The ambiguity of Income Collapse then the follow up qualification of being available to take up other employment could be interpreted that as long as you would not refuse any other work if offered ,you can subsidize your PUP with your meager earnings from your trade or profession .
Can you please clarify the Position .Can you claim the PUP and continue to trade until your business has returned to pre Covid conditions .
Regards .
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 24, 2020, 08:28:26 am
So at least 2 posters on here are fraudulently accepting the payment whilst working, extrapolate that out and it'd be a fair percentage of drivers, welfare should be setting up checkpoints to catch these cheats
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: taxi1990 on July 24, 2020, 09:03:11 am
I know someone who works in a different industry. he was claiming the 350 but still working. Revenue were watching him. he lost the 350 and got a 1,000 euro fine.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 24, 2020, 09:04:35 am
Taxis should be very easy to catch, Welfare asleep on the job
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: taxi1990 on July 24, 2020, 09:07:24 am
There were a lot of taxis working and claiming,it was so obvious.  stupid of them if you ask me.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: stonethecrows on July 24, 2020, 09:49:34 am
So at least 2 posters on here are fraudulently accepting the payment whilst working, extrapolate that out and it'd be a fair percentage of drivers, welfare should be setting up checkpoints to catch these cheats
I've already posted this but here goes :

When I was getting my daisies fitted 2 weeks ago the NTA inspector told me that they have the power to go into FN or any other despatcher  and demand info on what taxi driver are working, they can (AND DO) pass this on to revenue to take action as they see fit.

He also told me he was down the country the previous week and were monitoring "Taxi Drivers" working for delivery companies.

I'm sure they are also out and about on the look-out.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: john m on July 24, 2020, 12:13:17 pm
Danger is if you are not allowed they will want their coin back add in a tax audit and a bill .You might struggle to get tax clearance .
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 24, 2020, 12:28:22 pm
In a few weeks/months Freenow will make a press release saying that they can't cover all jobs at the weekends with lots of fancy graphs.Then the welfare will start hassling us.Then we will be all back on the road covering discounts wondering why we spent 30k on a new car.

And still no word from the NTA to see of they're gonna increase the geography pass mark back to 80%.By keeping it at 75% they're encouraging new entrants.Lots of redundancies expected later in the year.

I'm not optimistic at all..
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: john m on July 24, 2020, 01:01:54 pm
New night time Mayor for Dublin going to keep pubs open longer and a full 24 hour bus service .Game is going to get harder .
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: taxi1990 on July 24, 2020, 01:34:13 pm
In a few weeks/months Freenow will make a press release saying that they can't cover all jobs at the weekends with lots of fancy graphs.Then the welfare will start hassling us.Then we will be all back on the road covering discounts wondering why we spent 30k on a new car.

And still no word from the NTA to see of they're gonna increase the geography pass mark back to 80%.By keeping it at 75% they're encouraging new entrants.Lots of redundancies expected later in the year.

I'm not optimistic at all..


when were they talking about restoring the pass mark to 80%? I though the NTA were looking to recruit new drivers?
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 24, 2020, 01:38:38 pm
1990 they weren't but they absolutely should.The unions will be whinging about various things to the NTA but the biggest barrier into our industry is the test.The situation has changed dramatically with COVID.Last thing it needs is fresh enthusiastic lads telling us we're idiots for not paying 200/250 a week commission to Freennow.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: john m on July 24, 2020, 03:22:46 pm
Dear Mr

Ms Heather Humphreys TD, Minister for Social Protection, Community and Rural Development and the Islands has asked me to acknowledge receipt of your correspondence regarding the Covid 19 Pandemic Unemployment Payment .

Enquiries are being made and a further letter will issue to you as soon as possible.

 

Yours sincerely
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: silverbullet on July 24, 2020, 04:27:39 pm
So at least 2 posters on here are fraudulently accepting the payment whilst working, extrapolate that out and it'd be a fair percentage of drivers, welfare should be setting up checkpoints to catch these cheats
I've already posted this but here goes :

When I was getting my daisies fitted 2 weeks ago the NTA inspector told me that they have the power to go into FN or any other despatcher  and demand info on what taxi driver are working, they can (AND DO) pass this on to revenue to take action as they see fit.

He also told me he was down the country the previous week and were monitoring "Taxi Drivers" working for delivery companies.

I'm sure they are also out and about on the look-out.
Try telling that to RC. He insists Ebbs et al do not furnish information to D.O.S.P. or Revenue when requested. Bonkers I tells ya!
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: taxi1990 on July 24, 2020, 04:51:45 pm
1990 they weren't but they absolutely should.The unions will be whinging about various things to the NTA but the biggest barrier into our industry is the test.The situation has changed dramatically with COVID.Last thing it needs is fresh enthusiastic lads telling us we're idiots for not paying 200/250 a week commission to Freennow.


Knowing the NTA they will lower the pass rate not make it higher. 75% is still high enough to keep the thickos out.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 24, 2020, 04:58:03 pm
I wish that was true 1990.But they wanted to recruit 1500 new drivers and the way to do that was a 5% reduction on the pass rate.They wouldn't have done it if it wasn't gonna allow the required number to filter through.It was at 80% for about eight years.

With the rest of the fleet getting drilled by the ten-year rule it's really important that they have enough work to survive if/when they return.The NTA plugged one hole but then made another after representations from taxi companies to get more fresh blood.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: silverbullet on July 24, 2020, 05:08:42 pm
The main barrier to entry is insurance rates.

Bearable for incumbents, but punitive for new entrants.

In the current economic crisis I can't see it paying divivends if your insurance is €8/€14K.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 24, 2020, 05:26:52 pm
SB you can get on a renters policy for 3k AFAIK.That was precovid.

While things are shit the prices will plummet again.It cost me less than €1800 to have my own policy nearly eleven years ago.

All them newbies complaining about high insurance may not have even gotten a PSV if the test was kept harder.

It's not just a matter of one question extra to answer.But a significant number of candidates may have only gotten 60/65/75% pass rates but gave up after the second or third attempt.I've heard of candidates sitting the test nine times at €85 a sitting.

I know we all use google maps but I don't underestimate the value of tougher geography testing.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: taxi1990 on July 24, 2020, 05:27:51 pm
I wish that was true 1990.But they wanted to recruit 1500 new drivers and the way to do that was a 5% reduction on the pass rate.They wouldn't have done it if it wasn't gonna allow the required number to filter through.It was at 80% for about eight years.

With the rest of the fleet getting drilled by the ten-year rule it's really important that they have enough work to survive if/when they return.The NTA plugged one hole but then made another after representations from taxi companies to get more fresh blood.


Hard to know what will happen now though since covid, I agree with silverbullet, insurance is still very high for new entrants and you would be mad to start in this game now. still better having new lads driving taxis than having uber rideshare.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: taxi1990 on July 24, 2020, 05:31:08 pm
SB you can get on a renters policy for 3k AFAIK.That was precovid.

While things are shit the prices will plummet again.It cost me less than €1800 to have my own policy nearly eleven years ago.

All them newbies complaining about high insurance may not have even gotten a PSV if the test was kept harder.

It's not just a matter of one question extra to answer.But a significant number of candidates may have only gotten 60/65/75% pass rates but gave up after the second or third attempt.I've heard of candidates sitting the test nine times at €85 a sitting.

I know we all use google maps but I don't underestimate the value of tougher geography testing.



Are all rental taxis balls of $hite? I had to rent one for a few weeks one time and it was a death trap, you would have more comfort in a tractor.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 24, 2020, 05:35:01 pm
Unless you've worked in Dublin City with the huge oversupply we had 8/9/10 years ago you can't see where I'm coming from.

I did the 14 hour days to gross a ton.I did have nearly 3hours on a rank only to get a €7 fare.It's horrible.I'm not scared of rideshare as thousands of surplus legal taxis doing as they please is much much worse.

During the war..
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: taxi1990 on July 24, 2020, 05:38:05 pm
Unless you've worked in Dublin City with the huge oversupply we had 8/9/10 years ago you can't see where I'm coming from.

I did the 14 hour days to gross a ton.I did have nearly 3hours on a rank only to get a €7 fare.It's horrible.I'm not scared of rideshare as thousands of surplus legal taxis doing as they please is much much worse.

During the war..



I would just quit if it was ever that bad. keep the licence for when the recession is over.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 24, 2020, 05:39:02 pm
SB you can get on a renters policy for 3k AFAIK.That was precovid.

While things are shit the prices will plummet again.It cost me less than €1800 to have my own policy nearly eleven years ago.

All them newbies complaining about high insurance may not have even gotten a PSV if the test was kept harder.

It's not just a matter of one question extra to answer.But a significant number of candidates may have only gotten 60/65/75% pass rates but gave up after the second or third attempt.I've heard of candidates sitting the test nine times at €85 a sitting.

I know we all use google maps but I don't underestimate the value of tougher geography testing.



Are all rental taxis balls of $hite? I had to rent one for a few weeks one time and it was a death trap, you would have more comfort in a tractor.

I don't think so.Most are in better condition than mine nowadays.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 24, 2020, 05:41:19 pm
Unless you've worked in Dublin City with the huge oversupply we had 8/9/10 years ago you can't see where I'm coming from.

I did the 14 hour days to gross a ton.I did have nearly 3hours on a rank only to get a €7 fare.It's horrible.I'm not scared of rideshare as thousands of surplus legal taxis doing as they please is much much worse.

During the war..



I would just quit if it was ever that bad. keep the licence for when the recession is over.

Unfortunately there weren't many jobs that would keep the bills paid back then.Luckily I was gifted with much more naivety and enthusiasm.Maybe that's why I'm afraid to go back now..
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: taxi1990 on July 24, 2020, 05:53:53 pm
id say whatever money is to be made will be now for the next couple of months. who knows after that. we should be out protesting about getting the wet pubs back open.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 24, 2020, 05:57:36 pm
It seems half the fleet would swap Taxi driving for basic unemployment benefit , hopefully this will seep through to the populous thereby extinguishing any desire they might harbour to enter the taxihood.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: taxi1990 on July 24, 2020, 06:47:44 pm
It seems half the fleet would swap Taxi driving for basic unemployment benefit , hopefully this will seep through to the populous thereby extinguishing any desire they might harbour to enter the taxihood.


The wannabe taxi drivers probably just think we are lazy. sure I was going to put 24 hour service on my business cards before I started. I forgot I needed sleep.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: silverbullet on July 24, 2020, 07:47:18 pm
It seems half the fleet would swap Taxi driving for basic unemployment benefit , hopefully this will seep through to the populous thereby extinguishing any desire they might harbour to enter the taxihood.
The populous what?
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Panel on July 24, 2020, 10:42:14 pm
Unless you've worked in Dublin City with the huge oversupply we had 8/9/10 years ago you can't see where I'm coming from.

I did the 14 hour days to gross a ton.I did have nearly 3hours on a rank only to get a €7 fare.It's horrible.I'm not scared of rideshare as thousands of surplus legal taxis doing as they please is much much worse.

During the war..



I would just quit if it was ever that bad. keep the licence for when the recession is over.

As mfh states, the taxi is a economic lifeline during the bad times if your costs are at all manageable, in 08/09/10/11 we didn’t have the 9 year rule which helped and most of the fleet was like scrap heap challenge.... god I miss those days!!   
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Billy boy on July 25, 2020, 11:50:05 am
So at least 2 posters on here are fraudulently accepting the payment whilst working, extrapolate that out and it'd be a fair percentage of drivers, welfare should be setting up checkpoints to catch these cheats
I've already posted this but here goes :

When I was getting my daisies fitted 2 weeks ago the NTA inspector told me that they have the power to go into FN or any other despatcher  and demand info on what taxi driver are working, they can (AND DO) pass this on to revenue to take action as they see fit.

He also told me he was down the country the previous week and were monitoring "Taxi Drivers" working for delivery companies.

I'm sure they are also out and about on the look-out.
they have done this already with ck2.... Anthony actually rang the drivers to give them the heads out before they got the call sw...
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: taxi1990 on July 25, 2020, 11:57:15 am
Unless you've worked in Dublin City with the huge oversupply we had 8/9/10 years ago you can't see where I'm coming from.

I did the 14 hour days to gross a ton.I did have nearly 3hours on a rank only to get a €7 fare.It's horrible.I'm not scared of rideshare as thousands of surplus legal taxis doing as they please is much much worse.

During the war..



I would just quit if it was ever that bad. keep the licence for when the recession is over.

As mfh states, the taxi is a economic lifeline during the bad times if your costs are at all manageable, in 08/09/10/11 we didn’t have the 9 year rule which helped and most of the fleet was like scrap heap challenge.... god I miss those days!!



How is it an economic lifeline if you aren't making money?
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: mercenary for hire on July 25, 2020, 12:16:34 pm
Panel will be on later to speak for himself.... but in the absence of any other work you could put in lots of hours to make a living driving a taxi.Seems great until you burn out.In no other job would you be allowed to drive for 6/7 days a week doing regular long shifts.Most just kept going doing the hours hoping for an improvement.All the rentals were busy with tradesmen and labourers who got laid off after the tiger died.Most of them wouldn't have been on the road had the test been tougher earlier.

The ten-year rule and the app dominance mean we could be still getting buttons but handing out much more.

I've been moaning about this for years but others may be realising now that they may be overstretched financially when it comes to changing vehicles post Covid.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: taxi1990 on July 25, 2020, 01:28:33 pm
Panel will be on later to speak for himself.... but in the absence of any other work you could put in lots of hours to make a living driving a taxi.Seems great until you burn out.In no other job would you be allowed to drive for 6/7 days a week doing regular long shifts.Most just kept going doing the hours hoping for an improvement.All the rentals were busy with tradesmen and labourers who got laid off after the tiger died.Most of them wouldn't have been on the road had the test been tougher earlier.

The ten-year rule and the app dominance mean we could be still getting buttons but handing out much more.

I've been moaning about this for years but others may be realising now that they may be overstretched financially when it comes to changing vehicles post Covid.



I knew a guy driving a 1999 8 seater taxi in 2017, there was no age limit on it for some reason. something to do with the roof number. them lads are lucky enough compared to the 10 year and 15 year age limit taxis. I wonder are there many of them around these days.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Panel on July 25, 2020, 03:02:21 pm
Unless you've worked in Dublin City with the huge oversupply we had 8/9/10 years ago you can't see where I'm coming from.

I did the 14 hour days to gross a ton.I did have nearly 3hours on a rank only to get a €7 fare.It's horrible.I'm not scared of rideshare as thousands of surplus legal taxis doing as they please is much much worse.

During the war..



I would just quit if it was ever that bad. keep the licence for when the recession is over.

As mfh states, the taxi is a economic lifeline during the bad times if your costs are at all manageable, in 08/09/10/11 we didn’t have the 9 year rule which helped and most of the fleet was like scrap heap challenge.... god I miss those days!!



How is it an economic lifeline if you aren't making money?

Do the hours and you’ll make something that looks like a wage at the end of the week. As I’ve already stated that the 10 year rule on most cars and the reliance on apps are the two great unknowns of this time round.

What’s worse competing with 10000 other taxi drivers for a fare or competing with 140000 unemployed for a job?
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: dalymount on July 25, 2020, 03:49:49 pm
Its painfuly obvious to me that we are our own worst enemies,and the govt,the NTA the dept of transport,and the dispatchers are hoping that will continue to be the case.I seen it myself one day .there was a debate on wether or not TTNH  should have been invited to the talks..I remember another time when I was with CTA we proposed at a meeting to ask ALLof the rep groups to meet in the dail ,and the meeting was to be chaired by tommy broughan who agreed.not even one of the groups turned up.id say the above mentioned bodies are delighted with this continued fragmentation of our reps.just think what cpuld be achieved if some of them had the foresight,the intelligence,and the fukin interest to bring that about.that is what I mean when I say take back control of your industry from these people
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: dalymount on July 25, 2020, 03:54:40 pm
Big article in the daily express today about mask wearing in Dublin airport.Gerry Macken,TAI ,and Jim Waldron interviewed on behalf of taxi drivers,and the lack of instruction,or direction from the NTA regarding this matter
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 25, 2020, 04:49:32 pm
It seems half the fleet would swap Taxi driving for basic unemployment benefit , hopefully this will seep through to the populous thereby extinguishing any desire they might harbour to enter the taxihood.
The populous what?

Sorry, should have written Populace, it's a homonym ... common mistake apparently.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Cool Boola on July 25, 2020, 06:05:49 pm
Yeah...but you are still getting six slaps and in the corner
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Shallowhal on July 25, 2020, 06:57:18 pm
and the lack of instruction,or direction from the NTA regarding this matter

NTA....shitebags!!
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: john m on July 26, 2020, 09:23:06 am
from the indo ...Almost 200 people have had their unemployment payments cut after a surge in fraud detections at Garda checkpoints since the beginning of the Covid-19 crisis.

New figures reveal 176 people had pandemic unemployment payments stopped between March and July after being met by gardai and Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection officials at special multi-agency checkpoints.

Another 15 people had other payments stopped, according to data released under the Freedom of Information Act.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Pugwat on July 26, 2020, 01:21:19 pm
from the indo ...Almost 200 people have had their unemployment payments cut after a surge in fraud detections at Garda checkpoints since the beginning of the Covid-19 crisis.

New figures reveal 176 people had pandemic unemployment payments stopped between March and July after being met by gardai and Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection officials at special multi-agency checkpoints.

Another 15 people had other payments stopped, according to data released under the Freedom of Information Act.
It mentions taxi drivers
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 27, 2020, 11:19:54 am
Immigrants?
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: silverbullet on July 27, 2020, 07:54:24 pm
It seems half the fleet would swap Taxi driving for basic unemployment benefit , hopefully this will seep through to the populous thereby extinguishing any desire they might harbour to enter the taxihood.
The populous what?

Sorry, should have written Populace, it's a homonym ... common mistake apparently.

Homonym, duh duh duh duh deh! 8)
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Jonno on July 27, 2020, 08:04:47 pm
Oddly enough, the immigrant drivers around here actually behaved themselves re: pup payment and it's only now that one or two of them are starting to reappear. I was genuinely surprised at that. It's paddy who is doing the dirty in the main, as far as I can see.

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Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: silverbullet on July 27, 2020, 08:08:43 pm
Oddly enough, the immigrant drivers around here actually behaved themselves re: pup payment and it's only now that one or two of them are starting to reappear. I was genuinely surprised at that. It's paddy who is doing the dirty in the main, as far as I can see.

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I too see a lot of retirees working, when they're the demographic most at risk.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: taxi1990 on July 27, 2020, 08:58:07 pm
what is the best day of the week to go back working? Friday?
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Jonno on July 27, 2020, 09:32:13 pm
what is the best day of the week to go back working? Friday?
In which context? For earnings or for coming off pup to ensure you qualify for a final payment?

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Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 27, 2020, 09:41:11 pm
what is the best day of the week to go back working? Friday?

Payments are from Wed to Thur, if you work one day, your paid for the week so start Monday, then you will be paid on the following two Tuesdays
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Jonno on July 27, 2020, 09:54:43 pm
what is the best day of the week to go back working? Friday?

Payments are from Wed to Thur, if you work one day, your paid for the week so start Monday, then you will be paid on the following two Tuesdays
My intention all along was to come off it at the original August 10th end-of-pup date. The fact they've extended it didn't change that.
So I worked out that next Monday the 3rd would be my sign off date because "I thought" that would bring me up to the Monday 10th. Obviously I was erroneous in my understanding of the way the days run in this regard.
So from what you're telling me, if I do sign off this Monday 3rd, I will receive a final payment on Tuesday 11th? Right, that's me sorted (if you are correct in what you are saying, that is). Cheers.

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Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: taxi1990 on July 27, 2020, 10:49:05 pm
what is the best day of the week to go back working? Friday?
In which context? For earnings or for coming off pup to ensure you qualify for a final payment?

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for coming off pup to ensure I qualify for a final payment.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: taxi1990 on July 27, 2020, 10:49:51 pm
what is the best day of the week to go back working? Friday?

Payments are from Wed to Thur, if you work one day, your paid for the week so start Monday, then you will be paid on the following two Tuesdays


Cheers. ::cheers
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: watty on July 28, 2020, 10:36:10 am
Payments are from Wed to Thur, if you work one day, your paid for the week so start Monday, then you will be paid on the following two Tuesdays

Just to complicate things, I asked a similar question at the start of July and RC replied (with a link  :D )

https://www.gov.ie/en/service/a5aed9-how-to-close-a-covid-19-pandemic-unemployment-payment/ (https://www.gov.ie/en/service/a5aed9-how-to-close-a-covid-19-pandemic-unemployment-payment/)

The payment period of COVID-19 Pandemic Unemployment Payment is Friday to Thursday. If you close your claim to return to work and have at least one qualifying day in that period you will receive full payment for that week.

Why don't they do it Mon-Fri/Sun?
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 29, 2020, 11:43:03 am
That was then... the bean counters seem to gaining more control as the thing progresses. There was a man on the wireless yesterday who was cut off for going on holiday. Even with the job seeking clause now (apparently?) enshrined in law what's to stop a man saying he's going to Benidorm to look for a job 'cos the bar trade is fucked here?
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Theoneandonly on July 29, 2020, 11:48:48 am
I imagine the Taxi trade would do very well to get to Christmas as the thread title suggests, given the new agenda to get claimants back to work
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 29, 2020, 11:51:22 am
I read somewhere that 7 or 8 of the drivers unions met a Dail Committee and said - not a word of a lie, this is 110% true - there's no work so they want subsidies to help drivers return to [no] work. You couldn't make it up!
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Dr. Martin Gooter Bling on July 29, 2020, 11:55:24 am
even better.
the wording of whether you could claim and do a birra work was nicely ambiguous.
but a driver on here is damning some politician to clarify the situation once and for all.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 29, 2020, 11:56:18 am
It'd be funny if it wasn't true... I'm guessing that's the erm?
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: john m on July 29, 2020, 12:02:16 pm
even better.
the wording of whether you could claim and do a birra work was nicely ambiguous.
but a driver on here is damning some politician to clarify the situation once and for all.

Sure you knew the answer you told us all we were not allowed you even posted about drivers in Finglas being stopped .Were you lieing just to keep us off the road .
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Dr. Martin Gooter Bling on July 29, 2020, 12:20:52 pm
I never said we were'nt allowed.
I'm referencing a bogey post that referenced some sorta bogey taxi rep who reported that 54 Finglas taxi drivers had been intercepted driving and claiming or something.
it appeared not too long after your post about how a driver you knew had shown you a bogey letter from the welfare cutting him off.
Title: Re: 350--275--203------Christmas here we come !
Post by: Rat Catcher on July 29, 2020, 12:26:05 pm
I know a couple of drivers who said they got those letters, both said they got their puppy dole back on foot of a phone call to Welfare although (the last I heard) one lost two weeks missed payments that were supposed to be paid.