Its painfuly obvious to me that we are our own worst enemies,and the govt,the NTA the dept of transport,and the dispatchers are hoping that will continue to be the case.I seen it myself one day .there was a debate on wether or not TTNH should have been invited to the talks..I remember another time when I was with CTA we proposed at a meeting to ask ALLof the rep groups to meet in the dail ,and the meeting was to be chaired by tommy broughan who agreed.not even one of the groups turned up.id say the above mentioned bodies are delighted with this continued fragmentation of our reps.just think what cpuld be achieved if some of them had the foresight,the intelligence,and the fukin interest to bring that about.that is what I mean when I say take back control of your industry from these people