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Ultimatum on Dublin Airport taxi permits "unrealistic and unacceptable" - Darren O'Rourke TD
17 July, 2020 - by Darren O Rourke TD
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Dublin Airport Authority's insistence that taxi drivers renew their airport permits - despite the fact that the vast majority are on reduced or zero hours - is unreasonable and unacceptable, Sinn Féin spokesperson on Transport Darren O'Rourke TD has said.
He has called on the Authority to suspend the airport fee - which costs €440 per vehicle - until passenger numbers reach 2019 levels.
He said:
"Covid-19 has had a devastating impact on the taxi industry leaving many without work or on severely reduced hours. State support has been minimal but many overheads have remained.
"In addition to the range of issues affecting the industry, and which need immediate address by government and the NTA; such as licensing, NCT and vehicle suitability bureaucracies, airport taxis are now faced with an ultimatum from the Dublin Airport Authority (DAA).
"Their insistence that airport taxi drivers renew their airport permits by the end of August - at a cost of €440 per vehicle - and without the usual option of payment by instalment, is completely unrealistic and completely unacceptable.
"Passenger numbers at the airport are down in excess of 95%, meaning work for many taxi drivers has dried up. Drivers report an average four hour wait for a fare.
"The DAA must realise the financial strain that this has placed on taxi drivers. They should engage with industry representatives and, in response to the pandemic-induced circumstances, suspend the airport fee until passenger numbers have returned to 2019 levels.
"The taxi industry is in urgent need of dedicated support at this time. Government, the NTA and the DAA all have a role to play."
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and without the usual option of payment by instalment
That's a bit naughty if true.
Having said that, €440 is 1 or 2 euro a day. In normal times, how much do keshies spend on coffee/poker while they're waiting 3hrs+ O:-) for their fares?
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Fuck shinn fein and the kesh
Bunch of divas
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I'll pay €440 tomorrow for a saloon car permit.
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They should be paying us for providing a service for their customers.can you imagine a plane arriving ,and np taxis there to yake the punters ? Why the fukk should taxi drivers pay them?
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They should be paying us for providing a service for their customers.can you imagine a plane arriving ,and np taxis there to yake the punters ? Why the fukk should taxi drivers pay them?
I have to agree with you Daly, they have to be making serious coin to pay that.
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Should be free anyway.
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DAA are in dire need of money and Free Now are chomping at the bit for the contract
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They should be paying us for providing a service for their customers.can you imagine a plane arriving ,and np taxis there to yake the punters ? Why the fukk should taxi drivers pay them?
Drivers volunteered to pay DAA a per job fee in 1993/4 . Before that, a permit was £10 or included in Fed membership.
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How much for 3 meals a day in the Kesh cafe?
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They should be paying us for providing a service for their customers.can you imagine a plane arriving ,and np taxis there to yake the punters ? Why the fukk should taxi drivers pay them?
Drivers volunteered to pay DAA a per job fee in 1993/4 . Before that, a permit was £10 or included in Fed membership.
Corruption was endemic.
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They should be paying us for providing a service for their customers.can you imagine a plane arriving ,and np taxis there to yake the punters ? Why the fukk should taxi drivers pay them?
Drivers volunteered to pay DAA a per job fee in 1993/4 . Before that, a permit was £10 or included in Fed membership.
this appears to be yet ANOTHER example of our so called union representatives corupt practice.the fed controlled who worked the airport,Kearns controlled who worked by deciding who got insurance,it has to be the most corrupt fukkn industry in ireland.these people are supposed to represent YOU,not line their own pockets.
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How much for 3 meals a day in the Kesh cafe?
The Canner in the kesh is privately run.
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How much for 3 meals a day in the Kesh cafe?
The Canner in the kesh is privately run.
Informative, but doesn't answer the question
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Open up the port just watch ebbs or fn will get it
Fuck the kesh
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How much for 3 meals a day in the Kesh cafe?
The Canner in the kesh is privately run.
Informative, but doesn't answer the question
A la carte or Table D'hote? 8)
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They should be paying us for providing a service for their customers.can you imagine a plane arriving ,and np taxis there to yake the punters ? Why the fukk should taxi drivers pay them?
Drivers volunteered to pay DAA a per job fee in 1993/4 . Before that, a permit was £10 or included in Fed membership.
this appears to be yet ANOTHER example of our so called union representatives corupt practice.the fed controlled who worked the airport,Kearns controlled who worked by deciding who got insurance,it has to be the most corrupt fukkn industry in ireland.these people are supposed to represent YOU,not line their own pockets.
No Daly, a permit could be got by paying DAA £10 , no need to join Fed .
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How much for 3 meals a day in the Kesh cafe?
Can`t really say, I don`t buy food unless there`s a coddle , nice coddle at that. €5 for coddle and coffee.
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Thanks for that, I thought that the meals were supposed to be very cheap, i.e. at €8.40 a day for a Kesh pass, it might be worth it just to eat there rather than at home, let alone getting the work.
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Thanks for that, I thought that the meals were supposed to be very cheap, i.e. at €8.40 a day for a Kesh pass, it might be worth it just to eat there rather than at home, let alone getting the work.
Would u really want to listen to taxi crap while eating?
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Thanks for that, I thought that the meals were supposed to be very cheap, i.e. at €8.40 a day for a Kesh pass, it might be worth it just to eat there rather than at home, let alone getting the work.
Would u really want to listen to taxi crap while eating?
Good point, I heard that the jacks is a hazardous area also, hygiene wise I mean.
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You paid at the barrier each time !
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I dont know anything about how the airport works,but I did hear roumers that certain cronies get the best work,country runs.I dont know if thats true,or not
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I dont know anything about how the airport works,but I did hear roumers that certain cronies get the best work,country runs.I dont know if thats true,or not
See the part where you say,”I dont know anything about how the airport works” . That should be it,full stop.
Then you go on to say,”you heard rumours”, forgetting of course,you dont know how the airport works!
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I dont know anything about how the airport works,but I did hear roumers that certain cronies get the best work,country runs.I dont know if thats true,or not
See the part where you say,”I dont know anything about how the airport works” . That should be it,full stop.
Then you go on to say,”you heard rumours”, forgetting of course,you dont know how the airport works!
rofl
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I dont know anything about how the airport works,but I did hear roumers that certain cronies get the best work,country runs.I dont know if thats true,or not
See the part where you say,”I dont know anything about how the airport works” . That should be it,full stop.
Then you go on to say,”you heard rumours”, forgetting of course,you dont know how the airport works!
yeah,so whats wrong with what I said ? I said I dont know what way they work the taxis in the airport,but I had heard rumours that certain cronies get the best work from there so whats wrong with that ?
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DAA staff weren't shy about backhanders or allowing certain drivers back on the rank well after the 20 minutes grace allegedly. Although it's probably 100% fair and honest now. 8)
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Thanks for that, I thought that the meals were supposed to be very cheap, i.e. at €8.40 a day for a Kesh pass, it might be worth it just to eat there rather than at home, let alone getting the work.
Seeing as you're mostly southside Bob, I'd venture into staff RTE staff canteen, good food and subsidised. Just tell the Rent a cops on the gate you're picking up at radio.
I did it for years.
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The CIE canteen is supposed to good to,and cheap
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The CIE canteen is supposed to good to,and cheap
Well their drivers are stealing our work, we might as well steal their grub!
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Gangsters supporting villains....
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Gangsters supporting villains....
+1.
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I dont know anything about how the airport works,but I did hear roumers that certain cronies get the best work,country runs.I dont know if thats true,or not
See the part where you say,”I dont know anything about how the airport works” . That should be it,full stop.
Then you go on to say,”you heard rumours”, forgetting of course,you dont know how the airport works!
yeah,so whats wrong with what I said ? I said I dont know what way they work the taxis in the airport,but I had heard rumours that certain cronies get the best work from there so whats wrong with that ?
"I said I dont know what way they work the taxis in the airport"
Exactly, you don't.
We'll leave it there so.
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Should be free anyway.
I wouldn't mind pay 2€ per hour ply for hire fee at the Airport
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So im not allowed to say I had heard rumours of cronies getting work ? I never said that WAS the case that cronies were getting lucrative work,I simply said I had heard rumours to that effect,but it seems to me I may have touched a nerve with you
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Should be free anyway.
I wouldn't mind pay 2€ per hour ply for hire fee at the Airport and move on if you don't get any
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So im not allowed to say I had heard rumours of cronies getting work ? I never said that WAS the case that cronies were getting lucrative work,I simply said I had heard rumours to that effect,but it seems to me I may have touched a nerve with you
Hit no nerve with me. I was just repeating what you said, "I dont know anything about how the airport works".
You know what rumours are? They're rumours.
Now you know.
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The problem with the airport is it's full of cocky drivers with pre deregulated mentalities who think they own the business and the airport
Ya man Gerry McKenzie from d8 I remember him when he had a pub on james st in the 90s
I'd rather sit on the dole broke than listen to them wingy swines bitch all day in the kesh
Ebbs or mytaxi will get the port and charge more than 440 a yr or whatever it is to work it it be a 10 er a day or something to work it
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Thanks for that, I thought that the meals were supposed to be very cheap, i.e. at €8.40 a day for a Kesh pass, it might be worth it just to eat there rather than at home, let alone getting the work.
Permit not required to use canner Bob.
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The problem with the airport is it's full of cocky drivers with pre deregulated mentalities who think they own the business and the airport
Ya man Gerry McKenzie from d8 I remember him when he had a pub on james st in the 90s
I'd rather sit on the dole broke than listen to them wingy swines bitch all day in the kesh
Ebbs or mytaxi will get the port and charge more than 440 a yr or whatever it is to work it it be a 10 er a day or something to work it
Nah, if Ebbs got it, you`d have to rent a radio from him first ,then extra to be upgraded to airport service taxi. Same with FN, 20 or 25 % commission across the board if they got airport.
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I dont know anything about how the airport works,but I did hear roumers that certain cronies get the best work,country runs.I dont know if thats true,or not
There was an investigation into one of the Green Caps alledgedly ringing a driver for country work a few years back. It wasn`t proven but the driver in question seemed to be in the kesh as often as everyone else afterwards. The tag system that was introduced has effectively cut down 99% of the strokery . No system is perfect.
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If there was a way...i'm sure Mr Ho-Tep would find it!!
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If there was a way...i'm sure Mr Ho-Tep would find it!!
I`ve highlighted a couple of anomalies during my time . There`s always the human factor that is difficult to spot.
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You don't have to be a Keshie to eat in the cafe, I've eaten there with another non Keshie, we had business in the bank nearby and thought we'd see what it was like, i wouldn't rush back
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You don't have to be a Keshie to eat in the cafe, I've eaten there with another non Keshie, we had business in the bank nearby and thought we'd see what it was like, i wouldn't rush back
U paid to eat there?
I'd go hungry and starve
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The problem with the airport is it's full of cocky drivers with pre deregulated mentalities who think they own the business and the airport
Ya man Gerry McKenzie from d8 I remember him when he had a pub on james st in the 90s
I'd rather sit on the dole broke than listen to them wingy swines bitch all day in the kesh
Ebbs or mytaxi will get the port and charge more than 440 a yr or whatever it is to work it it be a 10 er a day or something to work it
Nah, if Ebbs got it, you`d have to rent a radio from him first ,then extra to be upgraded to airport service taxi. Same with FN, 20 or 25 % commission across the board if they got airport.
Both ebbs and fn have approached the daa
It's been looked at
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Used to be some government sponsored canteen around Lr Mount St also, near Love Lane who weren't to concerned about whether or not one was a Gov employee.
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Used to be some government sponsored canteen around Lr Mount St also, near Love Lane who weren't to concerned about whether or not one was a Gov employee.
Are you mixing that up with the Whoor House
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The problem with the airport is it's full of cocky drivers with pre deregulated mentalities who think they own the business and the airport
Ya man Gerry McKenzie from d8 I remember him when he had a pub on james st in the 90s
I'd rather sit on the dole broke than listen to them wingy swines bitch all day in the kesh
Ebbs or mytaxi will get the port and charge more than 440 a yr or whatever it is to work it it be a 10 er a day or something to work it
Nah, if Ebbs got it, you`d have to rent a radio from him first ,then extra to be upgraded to airport service taxi. Same with FN, 20 or 25 % commission across the board if they got airport.
Both ebbs and fn have approached the daa
It's been looked at
Not the first time either. Allowing one person/company to have Airport isn`t in the DAA `s best interests. Legal minefield.
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Fn has 90% if the fleet at this stage
Airport would not be a problem for them
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If they were going to do it, this would be the perfect time, once in a lifetime opportunity to open the Airport up to the entire fleet
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Fn has 90% if the fleet at this stage
Airport would not be a problem for them
FN have 90% of the fleet ? Jeez I dont think they have that much,sure that means between independents,and the trad dispatchers ,they only have 10% they would never survive on that
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Fn has 90% if the fleet at this stage
Airport would not be a problem for them
Ya think ? There`s roughly space for 260/290 taxis atm between the ranks, the kesh and Mondello. If FN or anyone else got airport, they`d be restricted by space as to how many taxis allowed, as it is currently. There`s no chance of any major change tothe DAA taxi operations in the current climate of restricted air travel. Health and Safety and Landside operations @ DAP capped the permit numbers @ roughly 1500 around 2008/2010. Allowing 8,000 taxis into DAP is a non runner.
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I wouldn't take a permit if they gave me one for nothing.who in their right mind would want to be sitting there all day
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Or picking up from China
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Permit me bollox.paying 4 ton to sit amongst a bunch of aulones ? No thanks
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Permit me bollox.paying 4 ton to sit amongst a bunch of aulones ? No thanks
I`m a nice , well read, oul one Dalyer.
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Cork (Pebble beach) and Kerry (Faranfore) are Free to join fer Taxies, Shannon have a kinda Hackney system in place.
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Fn has 90% if the fleet at this stage
Airport would not be a problem for them
Ya think ? There`s roughly space for 260/290 taxis atm between the ranks, the kesh and Mondello. If FN or anyone else got airport, they`d be restricted by space as to how many taxis allowed, as it is currently. There`s no chance of any major change tothe DAA taxi operations in the current climate of restricted air travel. Health and Safety and Landside operations @ DAP capped the permit numbers @ roughly 1500 around 2008/2010. Allowing 8,000 taxis into DAP is a non runner.
Al fr have to do is pay someone to organise the que when ya drop off at t1 or 2
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Fn already have airport que on app al they have to do is transfer that que to kesh and charge a rate to drivers
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Fn has 90% if the fleet at this stage
Airport would not be a problem for them
Ya think ? There`s roughly space for 260/290 taxis atm between the ranks, the kesh and Mondello. If FN or anyone else got airport, they`d be restricted by space as to how many taxis allowed, as it is currently. There`s no chance of any major change tothe DAA taxi operations in the current climate of restricted air travel. Health and Safety and Landside operations @ DAP capped the permit numbers @ roughly 1500 around 2008/2010. Allowing 8,000 taxis into DAP is a non runner.
Al fr have to do is pay someone to organise the que when ya drop off at t1 or 2
Doddle so. Sorta like the Green Caps are doing now except the Q would be at departures instead of arrivals.
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Fn already have airport que on app al they have to do is transfer that que to kesh and charge a rate to drivers
Kesh and Mondello hold 260 cars. DAP car parks hold 12,000 cars.
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Fn already have airport que on app al they have to do is transfer that que to kesh and charge a rate to drivers
Kesh and Mondello hold 260 cars. DAP car parks hold 12,000 cars.
Very profitable biz are carparks,mostly automated.
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Fn already have airport que on app al they have to do is transfer that que to kesh and charge a rate to drivers
Kesh and Mondello hold 260 cars. DAP car parks hold 12,000 cars.
Very profitable biz are carparks,mostly automated.
Yep. Take up a huge amount of space too.
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The cops arrested two suspicious men in a car park today.
One was drinking battery acid and the other was eating fireworks.
They charged one and let the other one off.
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Fn already have airport que on app al they have to do is transfer that que to kesh and charge a rate to drivers
Kesh and Mondello hold 260 cars. DAP car parks hold 12,000 cars.
Very profitable biz are carparks,mostly automated.
Yep. Take up a huge amount of space too.
You working the kesh now Bubba? or still off work
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Bad from our point of view,FN getting onto the TAC
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Permit me bollox.paying 4 ton to sit amongst a bunch of aulones ? No thanks
I`m a nice , well read, oul one Dalyer.
I'll vouch for that. 8)
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https://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/57446 (https://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/57446)
Ultimatum on Dublin Airport taxi permits "unrealistic and unacceptable" - Darren O'Rourke TD
17 July, 2020 - by Darren O Rourke TD
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Dublin Airport Authority's insistence that taxi drivers renew their airport permits - despite the fact that the vast majority are on reduced or zero hours - is unreasonable and unacceptable, Sinn Féin spokesperson on Transport Darren O'Rourke TD has said.
He has called on the Authority to suspend the airport fee - which costs €440 per vehicle - until passenger numbers reach 2019 levels.
He said:
"Covid-19 has had a devastating impact on the taxi industry leaving many without work or on severely reduced hours. State support has been minimal but many overheads have remained.
"In addition to the range of issues affecting the industry, and which need immediate address by government and the NTA; such as licensing, NCT and vehicle suitability bureaucracies, airport taxis are now faced with an ultimatum from the Dublin Airport Authority (DAA).
"Their insistence that airport taxi drivers renew their airport permits by the end of August - at a cost of €440 per vehicle - and without the usual option of payment by instalment, is completely unrealistic and completely unacceptable.
"Passenger numbers at the airport are down in excess of 95%, meaning work for many taxi drivers has dried up. Drivers report an average four hour wait for a fare.
"The DAA must realise the financial strain that this has placed on taxi drivers. They should engage with industry representatives and, in response to the pandemic-induced circumstances, suspend the airport fee until passenger numbers have returned to 2019 levels.
"The taxi industry is in urgent need of dedicated support at this time. Government, the NTA and the DAA all have a role to play."
Fair play to the terrorists wanting to suspend the Airport pass Open it up to everybody than rents cars from their mates ,help pay the rental .
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https://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/57446 (https://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/57446)
Ultimatum on Dublin Airport taxi permits "unrealistic and unacceptable" - Darren O'Rourke TD
17 July, 2020 - by Darren O Rourke TD
Email Facebook Google+ Twitter
Dublin Airport Authority's insistence that taxi drivers renew their airport permits - despite the fact that the vast majority are on reduced or zero hours - is unreasonable and unacceptable, Sinn Féin spokesperson on Transport Darren O'Rourke TD has said.
He has called on the Authority to suspend the airport fee - which costs €440 per vehicle - until passenger numbers reach 2019 levels.
He said:
"Covid-19 has had a devastating impact on the taxi industry leaving many without work or on severely reduced hours. State support has been minimal but many overheads have remained.
"In addition to the range of issues affecting the industry, and which need immediate address by government and the NTA; such as licensing, NCT and vehicle suitability bureaucracies, airport taxis are now faced with an ultimatum from the Dublin Airport Authority (DAA).
"Their insistence that airport taxi drivers renew their airport permits by the end of August - at a cost of €440 per vehicle - and without the usual option of payment by instalment, is completely unrealistic and completely unacceptable.
"Passenger numbers at the airport are down in excess of 95%, meaning work for many taxi drivers has dried up. Drivers report an average four hour wait for a fare.
"The DAA must realise the financial strain that this has placed on taxi drivers. They should engage with industry representatives and, in response to the pandemic-induced circumstances, suspend the airport fee until passenger numbers have returned to 2019 levels.
"The taxi industry is in urgent need of dedicated support at this time. Government, the NTA and the DAA all have a role to play."
Fair play to the terrorists wanting to suspend the Airport pass Open it up to everybody than rents cars from their mates ,help pay the rental .
They've suggested an express service from the kesh to the ramp, it's called the 3 minute warning! 8)
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Just in:
DAA have announced that the permit fee due in August has been deferred and they will review the situation in September.
They also said that Dublin Airport is losing 1 million euro a day.
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Im reviewing the situation,is the CEOS name Fagan by any chance ?
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Fn already have airport que on app al they have to do is transfer that que to kesh and charge a rate to drivers
Kesh and Mondello hold 260 cars. DAP car parks hold 12,000 cars.
Very profitable biz are carparks,mostly automated.
Yep. Take up a huge amount of space too.
You working the kesh now Bubba? or still off work
Still off . Some lads saying there`s a 3 hour wait atm.
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Fn already have airport que on app al they have to do is transfer that que to kesh and charge a rate to drivers
Kesh and Mondello hold 260 cars. DAP car parks hold 12,000 cars.
Very profitable biz are carparks,mostly automated.
Yep. Take up a huge amount of space too.
You working the kesh now Bubba? or still off work
Still off . Some lads saying there`s a 3 hour wait atm.
They'll all be master bridge players by the time this is over!
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Fn already have airport que on app al they have to do is transfer that que to kesh and charge a rate to drivers
Kesh and Mondello hold 260 cars. DAP car parks hold 12,000 cars.
Very profitable biz are carparks,mostly automated.
Yep. Take up a huge amount of space too.
You working the kesh now Bubba? or still off work
Still off . Some lads saying there`s a 3 hour wait atm.
They'll all be master bridge players by the time this is over!
World champeens
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Fn already have airport que on app al they have to do is transfer that que to kesh and charge a rate to drivers
Kesh and Mondello hold 260 cars. DAP car parks hold 12,000 cars.
Very profitable biz are carparks,mostly automated.
Yep. Take up a huge amount of space too.
You working the kesh now Bubba? or still off work
Still off . Some lads saying there`s a 3 hour wait atm.
Can you imagine if all the drivers who are currently off went back today?,it would decimate the already lower incomes that the drivers currently out there are making.
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Maybe the Keshies need to be taught that there's more to this game than the Airport
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Maybe the Keshies need to be taught that there's more to this game than the Airport
Say Fcuk all , leave them in the airport
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Bobby Lynch:
To all Dublin airport permit holders
It has come to our attention that not only are our pleas being ignored in relation to a quarterly payment option for our permit renewals but now it appears that the DAA in their wisdom have decided to create a new taxi operations manual without any driver or driver's representative's input.
It has also been made clear that there will be no landside manager dealing with taxi issues and the DAA has also stated that they will not be dealing with the driver's representatives going forward.
This is obviously a very worrying situation, not only are the DAA demanding that the permit renewals are to be paid at the full rate for 5% of the normal workload, they're insisting on this being paid in one installment of €440.00. Whilst we all agree this is a very difficult business environment it does not befit an organisation such as the DAA to be totally unwilling and intransigent to engage with drivers in relation to the quarterly payment option previously available to drivers in good economic times. Furthermore it is a worrying development for drivers to have no right to representation in the event of conflict resolution going forward.
It is on the record that many drivers have tried as individuals to plead their case to the DAA over the last few weeks to no avail as is also the case with the driver representatives.
In view of the above I implore you to make these facts known to your local political representatives as I think , once known, there will be a very dim view taken of the antics of Mr. Dalton Phillips and his staff at the DAA.
It's in our hands to bring these matters to the attention of our elected representatives.
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What's the problem here?440 a year is feck all.How long can they lapse their permit for without losing it?
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Read back on the thread -its defered til september .
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Bobby Lynch:
To all Dublin airport permit holders
It has come to our attention that not only are our pleas being ignored in relation to a quarterly payment option for our permit renewals but now it appears that the DAA in their wisdom have decided to create a new taxi operations manual without any driver or driver's representative's input.
It has also been made clear that there will be no landside manager dealing with taxi issues and the DAA has also stated that they will not be dealing with the driver's representatives going forward.
This is obviously a very worrying situation, not only are the DAA demanding that the permit renewals are to be paid at the full rate for 5% of the normal workload, they're insisting on this being paid in one installment of €440.00. Whilst we all agree this is a very difficult business environment it does not befit an organisation such as the DAA to be totally unwilling and intransigent to engage with drivers in relation to the quarterly payment option previously available to drivers in good economic times. Furthermore it is a worrying development for drivers to have no right to representation in the event of conflict resolution going forward.
It is on the record that many drivers have tried as individuals to plead their case to the DAA over the last few weeks to no avail as is also the case with the driver representatives.
In view of the above I implore you to make these facts known to your local political representatives as I think , once known, there will be a very dim view taken of the antics of Mr. Dalton Phillips and his staff at the DAA.
It's in our hands to bring these matters to the attention of our elected representatives.
Whos Bobby Lynch can I ask ?
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Bobby Lynch:
To all Dublin airport permit holders
It has come to our attention that not only are our pleas being ignored in relation to a quarterly payment option for our permit renewals but now it appears that the DAA in their wisdom have decided to create a new taxi operations manual without any driver or driver's representative's input.
It has also been made clear that there will be no landside manager dealing with taxi issues and the DAA has also stated that they will not be dealing with the driver's representatives going forward.
This is obviously a very worrying situation, not only are the DAA demanding that the permit renewals are to be paid at the full rate for 5% of the normal workload, they're insisting on this being paid in one installment of €440.00. Whilst we all agree this is a very difficult business environment it does not befit an organisation such as the DAA to be totally unwilling and intransigent to engage with drivers in relation to the quarterly payment option previously available to drivers in good economic times. Furthermore it is a worrying development for drivers to have no right to representation in the event of conflict resolution going forward.
It is on the record that many drivers have tried as individuals to plead their case to the DAA over the last few weeks to no avail as is also the case with the driver representatives.
In view of the above I implore you to make these facts known to your local political representatives as I think , once known, there will be a very dim view taken of the antics of Mr. Dalton Phillips and his staff at the DAA.
It's in our hands to bring these matters to the attention of our elected representatives.
Whos Bobby Lynch can I ask ?
Cork taxi drivers association.
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Bobby Lynch:
To all Dublin airport permit holders
It has come to our attention that not only are our pleas being ignored in relation to a quarterly payment option for our permit renewals but now it appears that the DAA in their wisdom have decided to create a new taxi operations manual without any driver or driver's representative's input.
It has also been made clear that there will be no landside manager dealing with taxi issues and the DAA has also stated that they will not be dealing with the driver's representatives going forward.
This is obviously a very worrying situation, not only are the DAA demanding that the permit renewals are to be paid at the full rate for 5% of the normal workload, they're insisting on this being paid in one installment of €440.00. Whilst we all agree this is a very difficult business environment it does not befit an organisation such as the DAA to be totally unwilling and intransigent to engage with drivers in relation to the quarterly payment option previously available to drivers in good economic times. Furthermore it is a worrying development for drivers to have no right to representation in the event of conflict resolution going forward.
It is on the record that many drivers have tried as individuals to plead their case to the DAA over the last few weeks to no avail as is also the case with the driver representatives.
In view of the above I implore you to make these facts known to your local political representatives as I think , once known, there will be a very dim view taken of the antics of Mr. Dalton Phillips and his staff at the DAA.
It's in our hands to bring these matters to the attention of our elected representatives.
Whos Bobby Lynch can I ask ?
Cork taxi drivers association.
Thanks Silver.
Presumably everything he said is true??
It seems odd that the DAA will not engage with the reps, when they have done so for years.
Whats behind it ?? Anyone ?? @Bubba ??
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Passenger numbers are down 95% so it's not like they don't have time to negotiate new normal conditions.
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Just a guess but there probably aren't enough keshies working to worry the DAA right now.Their last resort is a slow drive around the airport to cause disruption.Now there's nothing to disrupt.The DAA are probably doing as they please while they can.
Then there's the fact that they don't need as many airport drivers for a couple of years.
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But before Covid hit, the DAA were saying they were going to ask for the 44 payment in one go, as opposed to previous years when you could do so in installments.
It just seems very strange why (if true) they dont want to engage with taxi reps. I mean isnt that just being confrontational ?
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Or common sense given the calibre to date?
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But before Covid hit, the DAA were saying they were going to ask for the 44 payment in one go, as opposed to previous years when you could do so in installments.
It just seems very strange why (if true) they dont want to engage with taxi reps. I mean isnt that just being confrontational ?
The note from Bobby would suggest a lack of interest from the DAA in the Kesh, probably has a lot to do with the knowledge that the Kesh is no longer required to service the passengers there, FN are I'm sure, supplying them with the daily numbers of drivers they have queueing for work in the area, along with lucrative offers to operate the service without any need for DAA supervision
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Or maybe TD42 has it right.
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Or maybe TD42 has it right.
Lol
The virtual airport que I pointed out that keshies hate?
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Bobby Lynch:
To all Dublin airport permit holders
It has come to our attention that not only are our pleas being ignored in relation to a quarterly payment option for our permit renewals but now it appears that the DAA in their wisdom have decided to create a new taxi operations manual without any driver or driver's representative's input.
It has also been made clear that there will be no landside manager dealing with taxi issues and the DAA has also stated that they will not be dealing with the driver's representatives going forward.
This is obviously a very worrying situation, not only are the DAA demanding that the permit renewals are to be paid at the full rate for 5% of the normal workload, they're insisting on this being paid in one installment of €440.00. Whilst we all agree this is a very difficult business environment it does not befit an organisation such as the DAA to be totally unwilling and intransigent to engage with drivers in relation to the quarterly payment option previously available to drivers in good economic times. Furthermore it is a worrying development for drivers to have no right to representation in the event of conflict resolution going forward.
It is on the record that many drivers have tried as individuals to plead their case to the DAA over the last few weeks to no avail as is also the case with the driver representatives.
In view of the above I implore you to make these facts known to your local political representatives as I think , once known, there will be a very dim view taken of the antics of Mr. Dalton Phillips and his staff at the DAA.
It's in our hands to bring these matters to the attention of our elected representatives.
Whos Bobby Lynch can I ask ?
Cork taxi drivers association.
Thanks Silver.
Presumably everything he said is true??
It seems odd that the DAA will not engage with the reps, when they have done so for years.
Whats behind it ?? Anyone ?? @Bubba ??
For whatever reason, DAA have decided that they will not have an avenue open to engage with any rep body, instead they will contact drivers individually. So instead of sending 4/5 emails and getting 1 to 5 replies, they`ll now send c. 1500 and get who knows how many replies. I think every ethnicity is represented in the Kesh and for the most part, we get along very well. DAA`s position will only serve to consolidate the very good co operation that currently exists within the permit holders. In fact, it would not surprise me in the least if a new body of drivers consisting of 1500 Keshie emerged.
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Average job out of port €20 ,1 hour + turn around -dont miss it.
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Bobby Lynch:
To all Dublin airport permit holders
It has come to our attention that not only are our pleas being ignored in relation to a quarterly payment option for our permit renewals but now it appears that the DAA in their wisdom have decided to create a new taxi operations manual without any driver or driver's representative's input.
It has also been made clear that there will be no landside manager dealing with taxi issues and the DAA has also stated that they will not be dealing with the driver's representatives going forward.
This is obviously a very worrying situation, not only are the DAA demanding that the permit renewals are to be paid at the full rate for 5% of the normal workload, they're insisting on this being paid in one installment of €440.00. Whilst we all agree this is a very difficult business environment it does not befit an organisation such as the DAA to be totally unwilling and intransigent to engage with drivers in relation to the quarterly payment option previously available to drivers in good economic times. Furthermore it is a worrying development for drivers to have no right to representation in the event of conflict resolution going forward.
It is on the record that many drivers have tried as individuals to plead their case to the DAA over the last few weeks to no avail as is also the case with the driver representatives.
In view of the above I implore you to make these facts known to your local political representatives as I think , once known, there will be a very dim view taken of the antics of Mr. Dalton Phillips and his staff at the DAA.
It's in our hands to bring these matters to the attention of our elected representatives.
Whos Bobby Lynch can I ask ?
Cork taxi drivers association.
Thanks Silver.
Presumably everything he said is true??
It seems odd that the DAA will not engage with the reps, when they have done so for years.
Whats behind it ?? Anyone ?? @Bubba ??
For whatever reason, DAA have decided that they will not have an avenue open to engage with any rep body, instead they will contact drivers individually. So instead of sending 4/5 emails and getting 1 to 5 replies, they`ll now send c. 1500 and get who knows how many replies. I think every ethnicity is represented in the Kesh and for the most part, we get along very well. DAA`s position will only serve to consolidate the very good co operation that currently exists within the permit holders. In fact, it would not surprise me in the least if a new body of drivers consisting of 1500 Keshie emerged.
Thanks for your response,all very interesting,if not concerning.
You say that DAA's position will only consolidate the very good co operation etc.. Wasn' that down to the various reps co operating with them though? ( I should note Im no longer with any rep body)
You then go on to say, you wouldnt be surprised if a new body of drivers would emerge.But if the DDA have done away with co operating with the rep bodies currently,what makes you think they will co operate with a "new" group ?
Also wont the current group of reps be put out by this? TTnH, The Fed, NPHTDA, and Colm O Briens group ??
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Big Eamo will have a chat with the DAA and say .Look you moronic fucktards .Taxi drivers are willing to pay to park and hand over 15% commission on airport work .Now cop the fuck on you wasters charge two euro per job no permits .Its fucking ridiculous you encouraging taxies to return to town empty and encouraging drivers to drive out here empty causing huge waste emissions .Taxi drivers showed how much they are willing to pay to pick up in the Port .The Kesh was asleep while Me Taxi proved drivers would pay more .Now the DAA will use that to scrap the permits and push Me taxi out .
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Big Eamo will have a chat with the DAA and say .Look you moronic fucktards .Taxi drivers are willing to pay to park and hand over 15% commission on airport work .Now cop the fuck on you wasters charge two euro per job no permits .Its fucking ridiculous you encouraging taxies to return to town empty and encouraging drivers to drive out here empty causing huge waste emissions .Taxi drivers showed how much they are willing to pay to pick up in the Port .The Kesh was asleep while Me Taxi proved drivers would pay more .Now the DAA will use that to scrap the permits and push Me taxi out .
You make Ryan sound Woke!
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Bobby Lynch:
To all Dublin airport permit holders
It has come to our attention that not only are our pleas being ignored in relation to a quarterly payment option for our permit renewals but now it appears that the DAA in their wisdom have decided to create a new taxi operations manual without any driver or driver's representative's input.
It has also been made clear that there will be no landside manager dealing with taxi issues and the DAA has also stated that they will not be dealing with the driver's representatives going forward.
This is obviously a very worrying situation, not only are the DAA demanding that the permit renewals are to be paid at the full rate for 5% of the normal workload, they're insisting on this being paid in one installment of €440.00. Whilst we all agree this is a very difficult business environment it does not befit an organisation such as the DAA to be totally unwilling and intransigent to engage with drivers in relation to the quarterly payment option previously available to drivers in good economic times. Furthermore it is a worrying development for drivers to have no right to representation in the event of conflict resolution going forward.
It is on the record that many drivers have tried as individuals to plead their case to the DAA over the last few weeks to no avail as is also the case with the driver representatives.
In view of the above I implore you to make these facts known to your local political representatives as I think , once known, there will be a very dim view taken of the antics of Mr. Dalton Phillips and his staff at the DAA.
It's in our hands to bring these matters to the attention of our elected representatives.
Whos Bobby Lynch can I ask ?
Cork taxi drivers association.
Thanks Silver.
Presumably everything he said is true??
It seems odd that the DAA will not engage with the reps, when they have done so for years.
Whats behind it ?? Anyone ?? @Bubba ??
For whatever reason, DAA have decided that they will not have an avenue open to engage with any rep body, instead they will contact drivers individually. So instead of sending 4/5 emails and getting 1 to 5 replies, they`ll now send c. 1500 and get who knows how many replies. I think every ethnicity is represented in the Kesh and for the most part, we get along very well. DAA`s position will only serve to consolidate the very good co operation that currently exists within the permit holders. In fact, it would not surprise me in the least if a new body of drivers consisting of 1500 Keshie emerged.
Thanks for your response,all very interesting,if not concerning.
You say that DAA's position will only consolidate the very good co operation etc.. Wasn' that down to the various reps co operating with them though? ( I should note Im no longer with any rep body)
You then go on to say, you wouldnt be surprised if a new body of drivers would emerge.But if the DDA have done away with co operating with the rep bodies currently,what makes you think they will co operate with a "new" group ?
Also wont the current group of reps be put out by this? TTnH, The Fed, NPHTDA, and Colm O Briens group ??
I`m sure there would be a few upset if it happened . I`m on record publicly in telling the reps to work together or step down and have drivers nominated from the kesh. There`s quite a bit of arguing between various "reps" which carried on during Landside meetings. Anyways, it`s just an observation and analysis, I think DAA got fed up with repetitive outbursts and binned the meetings/ contact with reps.
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Repetitive outbursts?.....surely not Bubba!!