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Title: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: watty on June 28, 2022, 06:40:08 pm
TL;DR: All vehicles picking up and dropping off will be directed to Supervalu on Ballinteer Avenue where a dedicated Taxi Pick Up is located.


Published Tues, 28 June 2022

Taxi & Private Hire Routing Information for Marlay Park Concerts & Longitude Festival 2022
Monday, 27th June | Tuesday 28th June | Wednesday 29th June | Friday 1st – Sunday 3rd July (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi-private-hire-routing-information-for-marlay-park-concerts-longitude-festival-2022/)

PEAK PERIOD
The busiest times for traffic inbound will be from 15:00 to 20:00 on Monday 27th June & Tuesday 28th June & Wednesday 29th June and then from 11:00 to 18:00 on Friday 1st July until Sunday 3rd of July. In addition, it will be busy for the main exit periods, from 22:00 to 01:00 on all event days.

PUDO AND TAXI ROUTE
All vehicles picking up and dropping off will be directed to Supervalu on Ballinteer Avenue where a dedicated Taxi Pick Up is located. The area identified for pick up and drop off will be designed to facilitate taxi, private hire and uber. The Pick UP & Drop Off area will be stewarded. We kindly ask that all Taxis and private hires cooperate and use the dedicated Pick Up & Drop Off Area and the allocated routes to Supervalu which is clearly signed with VMS and signage. In order to mitigate disturbances and to ensure the safety of all people, Security & Stewards & an Garda Síochána will be present in and around Marlay Park.

ROAD CLOSURES
In the interests of our customers, we are working in partnership with the Garda Síochána to ensure the safety of all people affected by the event. This includes several Road closures as below. Please
be aware that the below mentioned times may vary and road closures might be put in place earlier at the discretion of the Garda Síochána.
• At 22:00 Taylor’s Lane from the junction with Grange Road to its junction with Whitechurch Road will be closed. Traffic turning right off the Grange Road onto Taylor’s Lane. No vehicular traffic will be permitted up Taylor’s Lane towards Grange Road and will be diverted left onto Whitechurch Road towards Willbrook Road/Ballyboden Road.
• At 22:15 Stonemason’s Way from the junction with the Grange Road to its junction with Broadford Road roundabout will be closed.
• At 22:15 Grange Road from the junction with Taylor’s Lane to Ballinteer Av / Brehonfield Rd junction will be closed. All traffic travelling from the College Road will be directed onto the Grange Road then onto Brehon Field Road and towards the M50 motorway.
• At 22:15 College Road from the junction with Whitechurch Road to the junction with Grange Road will  be closed. No vehicular traffic will be allowed on College Road. Traffic from Tibradden/Kilmashogue will be diverted down Whitechurch Road and onwards.
• At 22:15 Grange Road from Sarah Curran Avenue to Taylor’s Lane will be closed.
Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: John m on June 28, 2022, 06:53:55 pm
I MIGHT OWE 42 an APPOLOGY .WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS MEAN ....The area identified for pick up and drop off will be designed to facilitate taxi, private hire and uber.
Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: John m on June 28, 2022, 07:07:51 pm
Just banged out an E mail to the taxi thingey ...

Please explain this line from your guidance for Public transport services @ Marley Park ..The area identified for pick up and drop off will be designed to facilitate taxi, private hire and uber. 

Since when do UBER operate anything other than a Licenced Taxi Service in The Republic of Ireland or Private hire .Please explain why UBER are mentioned outside of this criteria 
 I look forward to you explaining or withdrawing this obvious blatant promotion of a Taxi dispatcher in an official publication .While not mentioning every other taxi dispatcher .
Regards .
Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: silverbullet on June 28, 2022, 07:33:50 pm
Just banged out an E mail to the taxi thingey ...

Please explain this line from your guidance for Public transport services @ Marley Park ..The area identified for pick up and drop off will be designed to facilitate taxi, private hire and uber.

Since when do UBER operate anything other than a Licenced Taxi Service in The Republic of Ireland or Private hire .Please explain why UBER are mentioned outside of this criteria
 I look forward to you explaining or withdrawing this obvious blatant promotion of a Taxi dispatcher in an official publication .While not mentioning every other taxi dispatcher .
Regards .
Uber is Limo's and clapped shiteboxes with engines 2.0 ltr and above.
Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: John m on June 28, 2022, 07:37:11 pm
Just banged out an E mail to the taxi thingey ...

Please explain this line from your guidance for Public transport services @ Marley Park ..The area identified for pick up and drop off will be designed to facilitate taxi, private hire and uber.

Since when do UBER operate anything other than a Licenced Taxi Service in The Republic of Ireland or Private hire .Please explain why UBER are mentioned outside of this criteria
 I look forward to you explaining or withdrawing this obvious blatant promotion of a Taxi dispatcher in an official publication .While not mentioning every other taxi dispatcher .
Regards .
Uber is Limo's and clapped shiteboxes with engines 2.0 ltr and above.

But why mention one brand UBER what is an UBER under the regulations .To me it is a dispatch brand like Free Now or Lynk  of NRC  .Why did it get a shoutout in this publication ?
Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: silverbullet on June 28, 2022, 07:40:42 pm
Just banged out an E mail to the taxi thingey ...

Please explain this line from your guidance for Public transport services @ Marley Park ..The area identified for pick up and drop off will be designed to facilitate taxi, private hire and uber.

Since when do UBER operate anything other than a Licenced Taxi Service in The Republic of Ireland or Private hire .Please explain why UBER are mentioned outside of this criteria
 I look forward to you explaining or withdrawing this obvious blatant promotion of a Taxi dispatcher in an official publication .While not mentioning every other taxi dispatcher .
Regards .
Uber is Limo's and clapped shiteboxes with engines 2.0 ltr and above.

But why mention one brand UBER what is an UBER under the regulations .To me it is a dispatch brand like Free Now or Lynk  of NRC  .Why did it get a shoutout in this publication ?
Let's see if Annie G gets a new car or a holiday of a lifetime.
Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: Mytaxi007 on June 28, 2022, 07:44:47 pm
Getting excited about this new cool card machine we will have to get for September...these ones probably dont breakdown  and are special ones....only 2000 for one..
Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: John m on June 28, 2022, 07:49:44 pm
Getting excited about this new cool card machine we will have to get for September...these ones probably dont breakdown  and are special ones....only 2000 for one..
#
Sum Up machine is 16 euro If its acceptable for other traders its good enough for us .
Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: Mytaxi007 on June 28, 2022, 07:58:14 pm
Oh no no no we be told
...you have to buy this certain one with a special number on it (like the HI VISSY and its only 2000 euro to buy

Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: John m on June 29, 2022, 02:44:00 pm
4 hours on the phone trying to talk to a person to ask the NTA definition of UBER when it comes to picking up still cant get through .
Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: mercenary for hire on June 29, 2022, 02:52:55 pm
Freenow pulled out of the limo market so Uber a means black car limo service for most people.

Maybe the NTA are trying to show the whingers that are calling for Uber that Uber is already here in licenced vehicles.
Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: John m on June 29, 2022, 03:01:52 pm
Freenow pulled out of the limo market so Uber a means black car limo service for most people.

Maybe the NTA are trying to show the whingers that are calling for Uber that Uber is already here in licenced vehicles.

I got on to Geno Kenny TD  he will ask the NTA and Anne Graham the definition of UBER in this Directive .
Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: mercenary for hire on June 29, 2022, 03:17:16 pm
I'd say one of the staff rushed out the bulletin to the NTA website.No malice was involved IMO.

It's irrelevant as nobody in their right mind would drive up their empty hanging around for a job.A lot of folks including myself left the venue as it was a bit shite TBH.Plenty of street work between Dundrum and Marley park an hour before the gig ended if you wanted it.I walked to the Luas and fecked off.
Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: watty on June 29, 2022, 03:18:14 pm
Oh no no no we be told
...you have to buy this certain one with a special number on it (like the HI VISSY and its only 2000 euro to buy

https://www.nationaltransport.ie/approved-taxi-fares-increase-and-cashless-payment-facility-regulations/ (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/approved-taxi-fares-increase-and-cashless-payment-facility-regulations/)
then https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/S.I.-No.-294-of-2022-SMALL-PUBLIC-SERVICE-VEHICLE-CASHLESS-PAYMENT-FACILITY-REGULATIONS.pdf (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/S.I.-No.-294-of-2022-SMALL-PUBLIC-SERVICE-VEHICLE-CASHLESS-PAYMENT-FACILITY-REGULATIONS.pdf)

Quote
Definitions
3. (1) In these Regulations -
“cashless payment” means payment by means of credit card, debit card or other payment instrument within the meaning of Article 4 of Directive (EU) 2015/2366 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 25 November 2015;
“cashless payment device” means a physical electronic payment device accepting point of sale card-based payment transactions, using the methodologies of Near Field Communication (contactless) and a PIN (personal identification number) with a magnetic stripe or chip;

Sumup will be fine.  I wonder if that definition rules out Revolut?
Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: mercenary for hire on June 29, 2022, 03:26:37 pm
The good news for drivers is it's only a €200 fine.You could absorb a couple of fines a year accepting cash only and still be up overall.Whos really gonna bother their hole complaining.Not that many.
Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: John m on June 29, 2022, 08:00:36 pm
Lad on Matts Facebook Page just posted a warning and photo .Garda are ticketing Taxis picking up outside the designated area  or allowing people to get out in traffic .Be warned or just stay away .Marley Park is to be avoided .
Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: silverbullet on June 29, 2022, 08:02:55 pm
Lad on Matts Facebook Page just posted a warning and photo .Garda are ticketing Taxis picking up outside the designated area  or allowing people to get out in traffic .Be warned or just stay away .Marley Park is to be avoided .
Get a GUNs n' Roses.
Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: John m on June 29, 2022, 08:08:04 pm
Na Silver its Red Hot up around there .
Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: silverbullet on June 29, 2022, 08:22:42 pm
Na Silver its Red Hot up around there .
Soz John, I was a day late.

p.s My guitar teacher's young lad is working up there for Longitude. €13 an hour.

Details here:
https://www.gigable.com/become-a-freelancer (https://www.gigable.com/become-a-freelancer)
Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: John m on June 29, 2022, 08:45:31 pm
Dropped a lad over this morning does the stage lighting and backdrops said they had to strip out 4 truck loads last night for GnR but 14 truck loads for the Chillys .Must be some stage show .He said most of the Crew are local labour on day rate .9 days start to finish .Then over to Aviva then the big two Friends in Low Places and the Picnic .Then its back to the 02 and smaller gigs .He works full time does film lighting as well .He reckoned most lads made more on Covid .The work for most is seasonal suits students .
Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: Belker on June 30, 2022, 12:18:29 am
Just banged out an E mail to the taxi thingey ...

Please explain this line from your guidance for Public transport services @ Marley Park ..The area identified for pick up and drop off will be designed to facilitate taxi, private hire and uber.

Since when do UBER operate anything other than a Licenced Taxi Service in The Republic of Ireland or Private hire .Please explain why UBER are mentioned outside of this criteria
 I look forward to you explaining or withdrawing this obvious blatant promotion of a Taxi dispatcher in an official publication .While not mentioning every other taxi dispatcher .
Regards .
Good call John M.
They changed the wording, deleting the uber reference.
https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi-private-hire-routing-information-for-marlay-park-concerts-longitude-festival-2022/ (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi-private-hire-routing-information-for-marlay-park-concerts-longitude-festival-2022/)
Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: John m on June 30, 2022, 12:32:01 am
Just banged out an E mail to the taxi thingey ...

Please explain this line from your guidance for Public transport services @ Marley Park ..The area identified for pick up and drop off will be designed to facilitate taxi, private hire and uber.

Since when do UBER operate anything other than a Licenced Taxi Service in The Republic of Ireland or Private hire .Please explain why UBER are mentioned outside of this criteria
 I look forward to you explaining or withdrawing this obvious blatant promotion of a Taxi dispatcher in an official publication .While not mentioning every other taxi dispatcher .
Regards .
Good call John M.
They changed the wording, deleting the uber reference.
https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi-private-hire-routing-information-for-marlay-park-concerts-longitude-festival-2022/ (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi-private-hire-routing-information-for-marlay-park-concerts-longitude-festival-2022/)

You need eyes in the back of your head Kenneth .You often get a stray cat hanging around the garden and if you dont run it off it will move into the shed then the house .
Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: Belker on June 30, 2022, 12:47:11 am
I wish we had a decent traffic plan in place fer Friday's Elton John concert down here, there is gonna be a lot of oldies coming out of that concert to find out that they have a 3km walk back in to town. No shuttle bus or regular bus service or no taxies allowed near the venue !
Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: John m on June 30, 2022, 01:08:20 am
I wish we had a decent traffic plan in place fer Friday's Elton John concert down here, there is gonna be a lot of oldies coming out of that concert to find out that they have a 3km walk back in to town. No shuttle bus or regular bus service or no taxies allowed near the venue !

Dosent happen on GAA match days .Seems like concert goers are different  cant be allowed out in traffic .Gards have a Public Safety obligation the exclusion zones cover their arse .I would think the unspoken not said out of sight gathers no moss real reason for exclusion zones is .The further away you get from the venue the less dense the crowds are .If somebody decided to ram a few cars into a crowd close to the stadium there could be a stampeed as well as impact injuries .I would think that the Gards are aware that we are not immune from terror attacks .We are one of the very few EU member States that have not had any terrorism attacks yet .That lad in Sligo who butchered the two Gay lads has never claimed he did it for God or Allah
Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: Belker on June 30, 2022, 01:25:46 am
Seemingly GAA matches and Marquee nights are a lower security risk than Full concerts.
Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: John m on June 30, 2022, 08:09:21 am
Sent an E mail back to Deputy Geno Kenny TD ...Dear Deputy
  The issue we spoke of seems to be rectified .The wording has been amended to now read ..PUDO AND TAXI ROUTE
All vehicles picking up and dropping off will be directed to Supervalu on Ballinteer Avenue where a dedicated Taxi Pick Up is located. The area identified for pick up and drop off will be designed to facilitate taxi and private hire. The Pick UP & Drop Off area will be stewarded. We kindly ask that all Taxis and private hires cooperate and use the dedicated Pick Up & Drop Off Area and the allocated routes to Supervalu which is clearly signed with VMS and signage. In order to mitigate disturbances and to ensure the safety of all people, Security & Stewards & an Garda Síochána will be present in and around Marlay Park.

Thanks for your help .
Regards .

THAT DIDNT TAKE LONG .Only spoke to him yesterday afternoon .
Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: Rat Catcher on June 30, 2022, 01:08:40 pm
The last couple of evenings have been extremely busy, in my experience... without getting within 12.7 Kilos of Rathfarnham. That's where the apps come into their own I guess... allowing drivers concentrate on specified destinations well away from any traffic hotspots.
Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: Rat Catcher on June 30, 2022, 01:18:17 pm
Oh no no no we be told
...you have to buy this certain one with a special number on it (like the HI VISSY and its only 2000 euro to buy

https://www.nationaltransport.ie/approved-taxi-fares-increase-and-cashless-payment-facility-regulations/ (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/approved-taxi-fares-increase-and-cashless-payment-facility-regulations/)
then https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/S.I.-No.-294-of-2022-SMALL-PUBLIC-SERVICE-VEHICLE-CASHLESS-PAYMENT-FACILITY-REGULATIONS.pdf (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/S.I.-No.-294-of-2022-SMALL-PUBLIC-SERVICE-VEHICLE-CASHLESS-PAYMENT-FACILITY-REGULATIONS.pdf)

Quote
Definitions
3. (1) In these Regulations -
“cashless payment” means payment by means of credit card, debit card or other payment instrument within the meaning of Article 4 of Directive (EU) 2015/2366 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 25 November 2015;
“cashless payment device” means a physical electronic payment device accepting point of sale card-based payment transactions, using the methodologies of Near Field Communication (contactless) and a PIN (personal identification number) with a magnetic stripe or chip;

Sumup will be fine.  I wonder if that definition rules out Revolut?

Read to the end, Watty!

The purpose of the Small Public Service Vehicle (Cashless Payment Facility) Regulations 2022 is to require drivers of taxis to carry a functioning cashless payment device whilst operating and to accept cashless payments for any journey. The regulations also provide for associated guidelines and requirements regarding standards and security of payment devices.
Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: silverbullet on June 30, 2022, 03:04:32 pm
I wish we had a decent traffic plan in place fer Friday's Elton John concert down here, there is gonna be a lot of oldies coming out of that concert to find out that they have a 3km walk back in to town. No shuttle bus or regular bus service or no taxies allowed near the venue !
Friday's OK, but Saturday night's all right for fighting. 8)
Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: silverbullet on June 30, 2022, 03:08:48 pm
Seemingly GAA matches and Marquee nights are a lower security risk than Full concerts.
A lot of people will be on drugs at the Elton John concert, mainly low-dose aspirin, beta-blockers, statins, etc.

Psst, got any Difene bud? 8)
Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: John m on June 30, 2022, 08:35:14 pm
Just banged out an E mail to the taxi thingey ...

Please explain this line from your guidance for Public transport services @ Marley Park ..The area identified for pick up and drop off will be designed to facilitate taxi, private hire and uber.

Since when do UBER operate anything other than a Licenced Taxi Service in The Republic of Ireland or Private hire .Please explain why UBER are mentioned outside of this criteria
 I look forward to you explaining or withdrawing this obvious blatant promotion of a Taxi dispatcher in an official publication .While not mentioning every other taxi dispatcher .
Regards .
Good call John M.
They changed the wording, deleting the uber reference.
https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi-private-hire-routing-information-for-marlay-park-concerts-longitude-festival-2022/ (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi-private-hire-routing-information-for-marlay-park-concerts-longitude-festival-2022/)

Still waiting on a written reply from the NTA to find out their definition of UBER and why it was included in their directive .
Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: Belker on June 30, 2022, 08:50:21 pm
Just banged out an E mail to the taxi thingey ...

Please explain this line from your guidance for Public transport services @ Marley Park ..The area identified for pick up and drop off will be designed to facilitate taxi, private hire and uber.

Since when do UBER operate anything other than a Licenced Taxi Service in The Republic of Ireland or Private hire .Please explain why UBER are mentioned outside of this criteria
 I look forward to you explaining or withdrawing this obvious blatant promotion of a Taxi dispatcher in an official publication .While not mentioning every other taxi dispatcher .
Regards .
Good call John M.
They changed the wording, deleting the uber reference.
https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi-private-hire-routing-information-for-marlay-park-concerts-longitude-festival-2022/ (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi-private-hire-routing-information-for-marlay-park-concerts-longitude-festival-2022/)

Still waiting on a written reply from the NTA to find out their definition of UBER and why it was included in their directive .
Don't be holding your breath !
Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: John m on June 30, 2022, 10:16:34 pm
Just banged out an E mail to the taxi thingey ...

Please explain this line from your guidance for Public transport services @ Marley Park ..The area identified for pick up and drop off will be designed to facilitate taxi, private hire and uber.

Since when do UBER operate anything other than a Licenced Taxi Service in The Republic of Ireland or Private hire .Please explain why UBER are mentioned outside of this criteria
 I look forward to you explaining or withdrawing this obvious blatant promotion of a Taxi dispatcher in an official publication .While not mentioning every other taxi dispatcher .
Regards .
Good call John M.
They changed the wording, deleting the uber reference.
https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi-private-hire-routing-information-for-marlay-park-concerts-longitude-festival-2022/ (https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi-private-hire-routing-information-for-marlay-park-concerts-longitude-festival-2022/)

Still waiting on a written reply from the NTA to find out their definition of UBER and why it was included in their directive .
Don't be holding your breath !
I ll get a written reply I will post it up when I get it .
Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: Belker on June 30, 2022, 10:43:48 pm
There is the outside chance that somebody was acting the bollix with the opening post and amended it to include uber.

But the opening poster was Watty and that would not seem to be his style.
Title: Re: NTA issue routing info for yesterday's Marlay Park concert!
Post by: John m on July 01, 2022, 07:38:55 am
There is the outside chance that somebody was acting the bollix with the opening post and amended it to include uber.

But the opening poster was Watty and that would not seem to be his style.

There is a chance it was photoshopped best way to find out is ask !