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Bertie Ahern @12/1 with Paddy Power to be next President .Explained ?to be president you must get 50% plus 1 vote of all votes cast .SF could get 30% but where can they get the other 20% not from FG who hate them not from the Left as they will already have that vote in their 30% so in reality SF Cannot win .
FG worse problem than SF as they will only get about 20% of the Vote SF voters will not transfer to them plus Mc Guinness is the preferred FG candidate at the Moment .If Leo is gone and I think he will be fucked out after the local elections and Harris id the Leader then Francis Fitzgerald could be the FG candidate both unelectable cannot get to 50% .
Labour votes will be gobbled up by SF so they cannot realistically expect to get a President elected .
It is unlikely that any Independent will get enough County Councils to give them the Nomination .
So Bertie .FF have nobody else who can appeal to the whole country Probably Barry Andrews but nobody else .FF will get about 20% of the vote .SF would transfer to Gerry Adams old mate Bertie Aherne Adams will sort of tell them Bertie can be trusted .FG will also transfer to Berty to stop SF getting the Gig .Could also be other election issues at play .If SF support Bertie it might encourage FF to go into Coalition with them after the General election as a united group of Republican Parties .If Bertie gets the FF Nomination he will be favourite about 5/4 to get the gig .
Bertie @ 12/1 will be my next long term bet .
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His past will come to haunt him. Things like spousal abuse allegations, no bank account, no accountancy qualifications, rat in the anorak and a fortune on make up.
You couldn't make him up.
He's our Berlusconi.
Ahern defends €480 weekly make-up bill
Taoiseach Bertie Ahern today defended the cost of make-up to prepare himself for the Dáil's TV cameras.
Wed May 24 2006 - 01:00
Taoiseach Bertie Ahern today defended the cost of make-up to prepare himself for the Dáil's TV cameras.
Green Party TD John Gormley who claimed that Mr Ahern was spending €480 a week on his personal vanity, accused him of decadence and dubbed him the 'Queen of Drumcondra.'
Mr Ahern said that it had been the practice of all taoisigh to wear make-up since the televising of Dail proceedings began in 1990. "I make the normal preparations that are standard for all those who participate in television programmes," he said.
He added that the pay for the make-up staff was in line with Siptu rates.
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But Mr Gormley said: "Taoiseach, how do you expect the taxpayer, many of whom are lying on trolleys, to pay this exorbitant sum for your vanity?
"It's extraordinary that you spend more money on make-up than any of the ladies in the Cabinet. What sort of priorities do you have when you're heading around like the Queen of Drumcondra.
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"On the 80th anniversary of the founding of Fianna Fáil, what would your founder Eamon de Valera say about a Taoiseach who spends hundreds of euro every week on make-up?"
He asked if Mr Ahern should be called the L'Oreal Taoiseach "because he is worth it".
But Mr Ahern replied: "When Deputy Gormley is Taoiseach some day he will find in the Taoiseach's department that there is a service provide by two people, two days a week.
"They're paid the Siptu rates for the job. I don't think that they should be fired to satisfy you."
He added: "I understand that when you go to RTÉ, that you carefully go to the make-up room. You have never been known not to use make-up."
Mr Gormley then asked if it was too much trouble to apply the make-up himself.
"The sum of €480 a week is extraordinary when we have people on trolleys. It amounts to nothing more than decadence," the Dublin South East TD added.
He still looked like a potato.
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Dont think it will matter Silver .Its been out there years nobody gives a fuck .."Ah Jasus when I was Teashock yis had gaffs and low interest rates and I brung peace and jobs to the Country "Its a Political appointment who else is there ?Enda? Leo? Eamo the Younger or Eamo the Cabbage .Gay Byrnes Ghost .There really isint a lot of choice .
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Short memories in this country....Bertie be a shoo in.
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Dont think it will matter Silver .Its been out there years nobody gives a fuck .."Ah Jasus when I was Teashock yis had gaffs and low interest rates and I brung peace and jobs to the Country "Its a Political appointment who else is there ?Enda? Leo? Eamo the Younger or Eamo the Cabbage .Gay Byrnes Ghost .There really isint a lot of choice .
Who was it said of Mary Robinson "If you want to shut a woman up in Ireland, make her President"?
I predict another woman.
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Silver here is my thinking .Rainbow Flags ,Grettas ,Bikelanes ,Homeless, Imigrants ,Turfcutters ,Farmers , " Do you remember ?Will I ever Forget ?I think people are tired of rapid change and will see Bertie as a throwback to better times .I cannot see a Woman .Robinson was a Crusader .Mc Aleese was anointed as FF Candidate .Mirriam O Callaghan is establishment RTE .No outstanding Women Candidates .I think its Berties to Lose .Its a poor Group of Potential Candidates .Four Horse Race ?
Bertie FF
Mc Guinness FG
NO labour candidate (they dont have enough votes to nominate )so agreed left candidate
SF Celebrity non SF candidate GAA manager or something like that .
Could even be a two hander with SF deciding to endorse Bertie .Remember the Bigger Prize SF after the General election will need a mudgard for their arse in Coalition FF would be ideal .Think about the meetings in the Cordite Rooms in Armalite Towers SF are within touching distance of power but still miles away .Sacrificing the Lease on a detached gaff in the Park would be an acceptable price .
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Thing about Bertie is he's too old school. He's from the last century, ffs. Half the people who do remember him hate him and the other half might begrudgingly vote for him. He's a nobody to the current Insta/TikTok generation.
It would have to be somebody with a Twitter account, preferably gay or transgender, and who's never insulted anyone (trendy). After Leo (who'll head to Europe), who's the next biggest gay personality in Ireland?
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Thing about Bertie is he's too old school. He's from the last century, ffs. Half the people who do remember him hate him and the other half might begrudgingly vote for him. He's a nobody to the current Insta/TikTok generation.
It would have to be somebody with a Twitter account, preferably gay or transgender, and who's never insulted anyone (trendy). After Leo (who'll head to Europe), who's the next biggest gay personality in Ireland?
El Presidente.
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Bertie Ahern @12/1 with Paddy Power to be next President .Explained ?to be president you must get 50% plus 1 vote of all votes cast .SF could get 30% but where can they get the other 20% not from FG who hate them not from the Left as they will already have that vote in their 30% so in reality SF Cannot win .
FG worse problem than SF as they will only get about 20% of the Vote SF voters will not transfer to them plus Mc Guinness is the preferred FG candidate at the Moment .If Leo is gone and I think he will be fucked out after the local elections and Harris id the Leader then Francis Fitzgerald could be the FG candidate both unelectable cannot get to 50% .
Labour votes will be gobbled up by SF so they cannot realistically expect to get a President elected .
It is unlikely that any Independent will get enough County Councils to give them the Nomination .
So Bertie .FF have nobody else who can appeal to the whole country Probably Barry Andrews but nobody else .FF will get about 20% of the vote .SF would transfer to Gerry Adams old mate Bertie Aherne Adams will sort of tell them Bertie can be trusted .FG will also transfer to Berty to stop SF getting the Gig .Could also be other election issues at play .If SF support Bertie it might encourage FF to go into Coalition with them after the General election as a united group of Republican Parties .If Bertie gets the FF Nomination he will be favourite about 5/4 to get the gig .
Bertie @ 12/1 will be my next long term bet .
Total Bullshite theory as have been on all your Irish and UK General Election predicaments over the last few years which you made similar cases fer and which all lost !
Take your time this time, I personally don't think he will run, as he just does not want the gig.
If he starts to shorten in price that will be a good sign that his mates know he will run.
If he drifts in price, forget about it, he ain't running.
Quite likely that PP/Spoilsports have a few "No Lose" accounts with a few political experts, possibly even politicians.
Watch the market.
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/irish-politics/irish-presidential-election/winner (https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/irish-politics/irish-presidential-election/winner)
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Thing about Bertie is he's too old school. He's from the last century, ffs. Half the people who do remember him hate him and the other half might begrudgingly vote for him. He's a nobody to the current Insta/TikTok generation.
It would have to be somebody with a Twitter account, preferably gay or transgender, and who's never insulted anyone (trendy). After Leo (who'll head to Europe), who's the next biggest gay personality in Ireland?
Fixed yer post:
Thing about Bertie is he's too old school. He's from the last century, ffs. Half the people who do remember him hate him and the other half might begrudgingly vote for him. He's a nobody to the current Insta/TikTok generation.
It would have to be somebody with a Twitter account, preferably gay or transgender, and who's never insulted anyone (trendy). After Leo (who'll give head to Europe), who's the next biggest gay personality in Ireland? 8)
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I doubt Bertie will run fer a lot of reasons;
I reckon he is a 'Slippers and Cardigan' man at home and enjoys his privacy.
I doubt that he is short a of a few quid.
He has a somewhat chequered political past, which I personally think is a load of rubbish about a few grand over a telephone bill, but the Pink n Fluffies had a field day with it.
He mentioned domestic abuse in his biography which as he is a seperated man, some jumped to the conclusion that he was a wife-beater, he wasn't.
But he knows in todays social media crazy world those allegations will follow him in to the Aras.
I really doubt that Bertie would fancy living in the Aras Goldfish bowl with the press just looking to 'Get him' fer anything at all.
I reckon himself and Celia are happy out where they are, a few pints with the lads when he feels like it, never misses a Dub match I hear ? Hols when they want and very little interest in rubbing shoulders with international dignitaries talking bullshite to please the cameras.
The only plauasble reason I can think of fer Bertie to run were if Dosh was low, which I doubt ?
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You are leaving out the most important thing Ken EGO /Contrition .If Berty can get the Nomination he will feel vindicated .Berties sins are out in Public so wont really matter .Lowery who was accused of skulduggery with Phone Licences still gets one of the top votes in the Country .The Irish love a Rogue .
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You are leaving out the most important thing Ken EGO /Contrition .If Berty can get the Nomination he will feel vindicated .Berties sins are out in Public so wont really matter .Lowery who was accused of skulduggery with Phone Licences still gets one of the top votes in the Country .The Irish love a Rogue .
What is an EGO /Contrition ?
Actually don't answer that, I don't want to know.
The most important thing John M is that HE DOESEN'T WANT THE GIG !!
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Most likely the next president will not be a Straight real Irish White woman, because that has been done to death.
Nor will it be a Straight White real Irish male, again been way too many of them.
I predict the next Irish President to be either a 'Pillow-biter', a 'Muff-Tucker', somebody new Irish with darker skin, or a Trans-gender yoke, maybe even a Special needs retard, or 'God Forbid' a knacker, or a combination of any of the above.
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Most likely the next president will not be a Straight real Irish White woman, because that has been done to death.
Nor will it be a Straight White real Irish male, again been way too many of them.
I predict the next Irish President to be either a 'Pillow-biter', a 'Muff-Tucker', somebody new Irish with darker skin, or a Trans-gender yoke, maybe even a Special needs retard, or 'God Forbid' a knacker, or a combination of any of the above.
The most Vile ignorant post ever posted on this forum .If we have reached this low its probably time to close this thing down .
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When I wrote my post, I could only think of Rory O'Neill (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panti) (aka Panty Bliss) but he probably wouldn't get much traction outside of Dublin even though he's from Mayo. He did that 'Noble Speech' in the Abbey and, according to Wiki, he donated the dress from that night to the National Museum of Ireland. He's done a bit of TV (incl the Eurovision) as well. Are there any odds on him?
One person who didn't fit my requirements but could be an outside bet was Mairead McGuinness (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mairead_McGuinness). She's inoffensive. She's been giving radio interviews regularly over the past while & she comes across as quite considered. Also, her EU Commission job (not MEP) finishes in 2024 and she turns 65 next year ('retire' back to the homeland?). What's the odds on her I wonder?
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Watty she is 4/1 but has NO CHANCE .FG will get about 20% of the vote they need 50% SF will get about 30% nobody voting SF will transfer to FG so they cannot win the office .Little Mickey won it because he was transfer friendly and FF had no candidate .Problem for Mc Guinness is she is Endas lovechild .If Leo gets fucked out and I think FG will drop him after a disasterous Local Election Campaign then Francis Fitzgerald comes into play Leo fucked her over last time but she is good mates with Harris . SF have the same Problem as FG where do they get the transfers to get over the line ..
You saw the personal attacks the last election who would want that scrutiny .Bertie has a Neck like a Jockies and everything about him is already out there .
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Has Bertie got a burd?
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Has Bertie got a burd?
Anna Bogle, the last time I dropped her home to Ardmore, something to do with Homefarm football club IIRC.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/but-romance-with-anna-is-still-blooming-for-shy-guy-bertie/26661507.html (https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/but-romance-with-anna-is-still-blooming-for-shy-guy-bertie/26661507.html)
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/bertie-ahern-s-post-politics-decade-you-get-the-impression-he-really-misses-it-1.3484172 (https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/bertie-ahern-s-post-politics-decade-you-get-the-impression-he-really-misses-it-1.3484172)
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When I wrote my post, I could only think of Rory O'Neill (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panti) (aka Panty Bliss) but he probably wouldn't get much traction outside of Dublin even though he's from Mayo. He did that 'Noble Speech' in the Abbey and, according to Wiki, he donated the dress from that night to the National Museum of Ireland. He's done a bit of TV (incl the Eurovision) as well. Are there any odds on him?
One person who didn't fit my requirements but could be an outside bet was Mairead McGuinness (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mairead_McGuinness). She's inoffensive. She's been giving radio interviews regularly over the past while & she comes across as quite considered. Also, her EU Commission job (not MEP) finishes in 2024 and she turns 65 next year ('retire' back to the homeland?). What's the odds on her I wonder?
Panty Bliss is 50/1.
Mc Guinness is the 4/1 fav.
See full odds here;
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/irish-politics/irish-presidential-election/winner (https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/irish-politics/irish-presidential-election/winner)
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@ Belker - thanks! Apart for the lotto, never got into gambling. Ha! that's gas that Mairead McGuiness is 1st. Can't see how Fergus Finlay is 2nd though. He's too non-descript.
Hmmm. David Norris at 50/1. We had 2 lawyers before Micheal D, who is an academic poet, I guess. Could we elect another academic like Norris to make it 2 academics in a row. It would be funny to watch him 'press the flesh' in deepest darkest rural Ireland.
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Norris was Favourite 12 years ago until his past caught up with him .He made some comment years ago about older Gay men helping younger men to enjoy the Gay Life .The Problem anybody wanting to run will have is getting nominated .The Big parties will nominate then any non party Tds or Senators might nominate an independent they need 20 members of the Oireachtas .Norris and Other Independents were able to get Nominated last time because FF did not run a candidate .
Finley will look to get nominated but Labour do not have enough TDs to Nominate him so there will be competition among the Lefties for the Nomination .Thats why I say only 4 but probably only three .FF only have two choices Bertie or possible Andrews but he has a good gig already .shinners cannot run in the Shadow of a Gunman so will look for a celebrity candidate .FG will fight among themselves for the Gig .Fitzgerald,Mc Guinness or Sean Kelly x GAA president .It costs about 1.2 Million to run a campaign .Dont think Political Parties will want to spend that sort of cash the year before or just after a General Election .That is why I say Shinners might not run a candidate and Labour and the Left wont have the money either .In a head to head .Who beats Bertie ? FG might not really want to run either last time they got such a low vote they lost their deposit and got no election expenses ..Remember Irish President is only a ceremonial Role .
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Norris was Favourite 12 years ago until his past caught up with him .He made some comment years ago about older Gay men helping younger men to enjoy the Gay Life .The Problem anybody wanting to run will have is getting nominated .The Big parties will nominate then any non party Tds or Senators might nominate an independent they need 20 members of the Oireachtas .Norris and Other Independents were able to get Nominated last time because FF did not run a candidate .
Finley will look to get nominated but Labour do not have enough TDs to Nominate him so there will be competition among the Lefties for the Nomination .Thats why I say only 4 but probably only three .FF only have two choices Bertie or possible Andrews but he has a good gig already .shinners cannot run in the Shadow of a Gunman so will look for a celebrity candidate .FG will fight among themselves for the Gig .Fitzgerald,Mc Guinness or Sean Kelly x GAA president .It costs about 1.2 Million to run a campaign .Dont think Political Parties will want to spend that sort of cash the year before or just after a General Election .That is why I say Shinners might not run a candidate and Labour and the Left wont have the money either .In a head to head .Who beats Bertie ? FG might not really want to run either last time they got such a low vote they lost their deposit and got no election expenses ..Remember Irish President is only a ceremonial Role .
If the electorate is OK with an alleged wife-beater and tax dodger, they'll have no problem with a gay man.
It's who he was associated with caused his downfall.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2021143/Favourite-Irish-presidency-David-Norriss-ex-partner-raped-Palestinian-boy-15.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2021143/Favourite-Irish-presidency-David-Norriss-ex-partner-raped-Palestinian-boy-15.html)
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Silver he gave an interview to McGill years earlier where he said he agreed with .Pederasty or paederasty (US: /ˈpɛdəræsti/ or UK: /ˈpiːdəræsti/) is a sexual relationship between an adult man and a boy.[1] The term pederasty is primarily used to refer to historical practices of certain cultures, particularly ancient Greece and ancient Rome.
In most countries today, the local age of consent determines whether a person is considered legally competent to consent to sexual acts, and whether such contact is child sexual abuse or statutory rape. An adult engaging in sexual activity with a minor may be considered abusive by medical authorities for a variety of reasons, including the age of the minor, the likelihood of the minor developing one or more mental disorders, such as post-traumatic stress disorder, physical injury to the minor, and the minor's propensity for further victimization in adulthood.
The logic being as a Gay man you cannot breed more Gay men but you can convert younger men .That is the only way that Homosexuality can survive ..After the last Presidential Election I doubt anybody will want their Dirty washing hung in Public remember the Election 20 years ago Adi Roach got slaughtered .Bertie has his laundry already done .Shinners could go for John Finucan but he wont get transfers .If I was going for a Huge outsider Joe Brolly could be the sF Candidate .
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Bertie Ahern @12/1 with Paddy Power to be next President .Explained ?to be president you must get 50% plus 1 vote of all votes cast .SF could get 30% but where can they get the other 20% not from FG who hate them not from the Left as they will already have that vote in their 30% so in reality SF Cannot win .
FG worse problem than SF as they will only get about 20% of the Vote SF voters will not transfer to them plus Mc Guinness is the preferred FG candidate at the Moment .If Leo is gone and I think he will be fucked out after the local elections and Harris id the Leader then Francis Fitzgerald could be the FG candidate both unelectable cannot get to 50% .
Labour votes will be gobbled up by SF so they cannot realistically expect to get a President elected .
It is unlikely that any Independent will get enough County Councils to give them the Nomination .
So Bertie .FF have nobody else who can appeal to the whole country Probably Barry Andrews but nobody else .FF will get about 20% of the vote .SF would transfer to Gerry Adams old mate Bertie Aherne Adams will sort of tell them Bertie can be trusted .FG will also transfer to Berty to stop SF getting the Gig .Could also be other election issues at play .If SF support Bertie it might encourage FF to go into Coalition with them after the General election as a united group of Republican Parties .If Bertie gets the FF Nomination he will be favourite about 5/4 to get the gig .
Bertie @ 12/1 will be my next long term bet .
He is BACK FF ard Feish yesterday and Berty grabs the headlines get on @12/1 .
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Why bet on Bertie @ 12/1 with PP ?, when Ladbrokes are offering him @ 16/1 ??
https://sports.ladbrokes.com/event/politics/international/politics-ireland/president-after-michael-d-higgins/234653629/all-markets
I still see no value in the bet as I reckon he does not want the gig.
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I reckon he does, Ken... mainly down to how he loves mentioning his position on the President's Advisory Council or whatever it's official title is.
Could be a precondition of a Shin F / F Fail coalition.
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I reckon he does, Ken... mainly down to how he loves mentioning his position on the President's Advisory Council or whatever it's official title is.
Could be a precondition of a Shin F / F Fail coalition.
Migrant?
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I reckon he does, Ken... mainly down to how he loves mentioning his position on the President's Advisory Council or whatever it's official title is.
Could be a precondition of a Shin F / F Fail coalition.
Did you take a bit of the 16/1 with Ladbokes ?
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I'll have a fiver on Norris in Ladblokes! 8)
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I reckon he does, Ken... mainly down to how he loves mentioning his position on the President's Advisory Council or whatever it's official title is.
Could be a precondition of a Shin F / F Fail coalition.
Did you take a bit of the 16/1 with Ladbokes ?
The Magic Sign closed my account years ago, Ken. Can't be arsed wearing out shoe leather.
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I reckon he does, Ken... mainly down to how he loves mentioning his position on the President's Advisory Council or whatever it's official title is.
Could be a precondition of a Shin F / F Fail coalition.
Did you take a bit of the 16/1 with Ladbokes ?
The Magic Sign closed my account years ago, Ken. Can't be arsed wearing out shoe leather.
Hardly a big ask to go in to One bookies in the next few weeks to place One single wager ??
Personally I don't think he will run in 2025, BUT if he does run then he will be odds-on.
In my opinion he is probably a realistic 7/1 or 8/1 chance which makes Law-breakers 16/1 offer worth a small few quid.
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I'll have a fiver on Norris in Ladblokes! 8)
Only 66/1 with Ladbrokes, 100/1 with Boyles.
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/irish-politics/irish-presidential-election/winner (https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/irish-politics/irish-presidential-election/winner)
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I reckon he does, Ken... mainly down to how he loves mentioning his position on the President's Advisory Council or whatever it's official title is.
Could be a precondition of a Shin F / F Fail coalition.
Did you take a bit of the 16/1 with Ladbokes ?
Ken I met him and asked him .I didnt say I was going to have a bet on him as he would not tell you if he was running incase you blabbed to the Press .So I said" Jasus Berty you like a bet .I was thinking of having a bet on the next President .Do you think I would be wasting my money ?He didnt answer the question and in Berty Speak that wasent a No ..I already explained FG cannot win it SF cannot win it .So who else is there ?
The Magic Sign closed my account years ago, Ken. Can't be arsed wearing out shoe leather.
Hardly a big ask to go in to One bookies in the next few weeks to place One single wager ??
Personally I don't think he will run in 2025, BUT if he does run then he will be odds-on.
In my opinion he is probably a realistic 7/1 or 8/1 chance which makes Law-breakers 16/1 offer worth a small few quid.
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Not a lot of Ladbrokes shops left, Ken. A few years back I got a (losing) tip for BBC Sportsman of the year. To get a score on at 50/1 Mrs Catcher had to visit 3 of their branches, all now closed. I kid you not they told her the maximum they could take from a single client was €6.xx the xx being a seemingly random odd number (presumably an exact conversion from a round sum in the late Queen's shilling) and suggested she either visit different shops or enlist more personnel!
P.S. Why hasn't the Queen Mother Champion Chase at Cheltenham been renamed the Queen Consort Grandmother-in-law Champion Chase or some such?
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..... P.S. Why hasn't the Queen Mother Champion Chase at Cheltenham been renamed the Queen Consort Grandmother-in-law Champion Chase or some such?
They could rename it to the Kings Grandmother chase but hardly worth the effort as the FA cup is on the home straight ! lol
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Not a lot of Ladbrokes shops left, Ken. A few years back I got a (losing) tip for BBC Sportsman of the year. To get a score on at 50/1 Mrs Catcher had to visit 3 of their branches, all now closed. I kid you not they told her the maximum they could take from a single client was €6.xx the xx being a seemingly random odd number (presumably an exact conversion from a round sum in the late Queen's shilling) and suggested she either visit different shops or enlist more personnel! .....
That would seem like the most they were willing to lose on the selection to a customer was a Trummer on a novelty market, remember that figure when placing novelty bets again.
€18 on Berty @ 16/1 to win €288 should be under the radar.
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Bertie Ahern @12/1 with Paddy Power to be next President .Explained ?to be president you must get 50% plus 1 vote of all votes cast .SF could get 30% but where can they get the other 20% not from FG who hate them not from the Left as they will already have that vote in their 30% so in reality SF Cannot win .
FG worse problem than SF as they will only get about 20% of the Vote SF voters will not transfer to them plus Mc Guinness is the preferred FG candidate at the Moment .If Leo is gone and I think he will be fucked out after the local elections and Harris id the Leader then Francis Fitzgerald could be the FG candidate both unelectable cannot get to 50% .
Labour votes will be gobbled up by SF so they cannot realistically expect to get a President elected .
It is unlikely that any Independent will get enough County Councils to give them the Nomination .
So Bertie .FF have nobody else who can appeal to the whole country Probably Barry Andrews but nobody else .FF will get about 20% of the vote .SF would transfer to Gerry Adams old mate Bertie Aherne Adams will sort of tell them Bertie can be trusted .FG will also transfer to Berty to stop SF getting the Gig .Could also be other election issues at play .If SF support Bertie it might encourage FF to go into Coalition with them after the General election as a united group of Republican Parties .If Bertie gets the FF Nomination he will be favourite about 5/4 to get the gig .
Bertie @ 12/1 will be my next long term bet .
DONT SAY I DIDNT MARK YOUR CARD >HE IS NOW FAVOURITE TO WIN IT WITH BOYLESPORTS .
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5/1 joint favourite, still 12/1 with PP.
But definately a good sign to see him shortening.
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5/1 joint favourite, still 12/1 with PP.
But definately a good sign to see him shortening.
I has £50 on with 365 they cut him to 8s .Got a few 40 euro bets on @12/1 with paddy .Even placed a wager for my Dinner Host today .Two grump old men watching election results and feeding the Cat .
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Go on the Bertie!
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Best of luck with it John M, as I stated before if he shortens in price that means that someone somewhere has heard a whisper that he will run which may or may not be true, but defo a good sign sign to see him shortening in price.
I still think that he will not run but hopefully I'm wrong about that, if he does run then he will be the odds-on fav.
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/european-politics/irish-politics/next-president (https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/european-politics/irish-politics/next-president)
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Best of luck with it John M, as I stated before if he shortens in price that means that someone somewhere has heard a whisper that he will run which may or may not be true, but defo a good sign sign to see him shortening in price.
I still think that he will not run but hopefully I'm wrong about that, if he does run then he will be the odds-on fav.
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/european-politics/irish-politics/next-president (https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/european-politics/irish-politics/next-president)
Ken I explained in the opening tread why he will .I asked him but you dont ask he wouldnt answer so you ask by not asking ."Here Berty if I had a spare 50 to bet on the Presidential election would I be wasting it ?" Ah shure go ahead .That is Jackeen speak from a Jackeen to be interpreted by a Jackeen .If he gets the FF Nom he will be 4/9 to win it .Probably uncontested .
I also spoke with Senator Mc Dowell asked him was he interested he smiled wasent a no fuck never ?Its a cushy number 14 year job as we never contest a sitting President .
On the Berty thing he backed a candidate in Dublin who topped the Pole Charlies Grandson .Berty still has a lot of friends with influence in FF .
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The Ming Flanagan has expressed an interest, "depending on the competition" @ 33/1.
No betting on Betfair.
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Bertie Ahern @12/1 with Paddy Power to be next President .Explained ?to be president you must get 50% plus 1 vote of all votes cast .SF could get 30% but where can they get the other 20% not from FG who hate them not from the Left as they will already have that vote in their 30% so in reality SF Cannot win .
FG worse problem than SF as they will only get about 20% of the Vote SF voters will not transfer to them plus Mc Guinness is the preferred FG candidate at the Moment .If Leo is gone and I think he will be fucked out after the local elections and Harris id the Leader then Francis Fitzgerald could be the FG candidate both unelectable cannot get to 50% .
Labour votes will be gobbled up by SF so they cannot realistically expect to get a President elected .
It is unlikely that any Independent will get enough County Councils to give them the Nomination .
So Bertie .FF have nobody else who can appeal to the whole country Probably Barry Andrews but nobody else .FF will get about 20% of the vote .SF would transfer to Gerry Adams old mate Bertie Aherne Adams will sort of tell them Bertie can be trusted .FG will also transfer to Berty to stop SF getting the Gig .Could also be other election issues at play .If SF support Bertie it might encourage FF to go into Coalition with them after the General election as a united group of Republican Parties .If Bertie gets the FF Nomination he will be favourite about 5/4 to get the gig .
Bertie @ 12/1 will be my next long term bet .
UNDER STARTERS ORDERS .....Former taoiseach Bertie Ahern has said if he enters the next presidential race he will be “running to win”, although he added that he has neither ruled a bid for the Áras in or out.
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He is letting FF members know he is looking for the gig .Mick from Cork also wants it .No Dub would give a twentieth prefrence to Mick Martin he is personality less .Shinner voters would never give him a preference .Bertie is the only one can win it for FF.
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He is letting FF members know he is looking for the gig .Mick from Cork also wants it .No Dub would give a twentieth prefrence to Mick Martin he is personality less .Shinner voters would never give him a preference .Bertie is the only one can win it for FF.
You really need to put those Rose tinted glasses in the bin John m !
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Seriously Mick From Cork wouldnt win a game of Bingo in Dublin .Berty runs he wins .FF choose Martin then Mc Guinness or Independent wins .Hope Cork win on Sunday
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Meehaul... for President?
The same Mehaul who took our 350 notes off us as soon as he was appointed Teashock... The same Mehaul who brought diesel prices to €2.00/litre up above in Dublin?
No chance!
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Meehaul is in Africa today as it happens. He hinted the Govt were gonna relax the inheritance tax rule in the next budget, nudge nudge, wink wink, which should help with those voters who work for a living. In the same story, "The Journal" reports that SF want to increase it by 3%.
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Bertie Ahern @12/1 with Paddy Power to be next President .Explained ?to be president you must get 50% plus 1 vote of all votes cast .SF could get 30% but where can they get the other 20% not from FG who hate them not from the Left as they will already have that vote in their 30% so in reality SF Cannot win .
FG worse problem than SF as they will only get about 20% of the Vote SF voters will not transfer to them plus Mc Guinness is the preferred FG candidate at the Moment .If Leo is gone and I think he will be fucked out after the local elections and Harris id the Leader then Francis Fitzgerald could be the FG candidate both unelectable cannot get to 50% .
Labour votes will be gobbled up by SF so they cannot realistically expect to get a President elected .
It is unlikely that any Independent will get enough County Councils to give them the Nomination .
So Bertie .FF have nobody else who can appeal to the whole country Probably Barry Andrews but nobody else .FF will get about 20% of the vote .SF would transfer to Gerry Adams old mate Bertie Aherne Adams will sort of tell them Bertie can be trusted .FG will also transfer to Berty to stop SF getting the Gig .Could also be other election issues at play .If SF support Bertie it might encourage FF to go into Coalition with them after the General election as a united group of Republican Parties .If Bertie gets the FF Nomination he will be favourite about 5/4 to get the gig .
Bertie @ 12/1 will be my next long term bet .
Looking at this Bet again .Maraid Mc Guinness is 8/11 Favourite HOW THE FUCK can she get to 50% not a chance .Lefties Sf /Labour Ranting and Raving Party cannot get there Its a Two horse race Between Berty or Cathrine Connolly if she can get a Nomonation .I think it will be a Four Horse Race .Mc Guinness ,Fg.Berty FF ,Who knows SF .with Cathrine Connolly or Fracis Black the X Alcoholic Cabaret Singer . If I was making a market based on these 4 .6/5 Berty 5/4 Connolly 7/2 Mc Guinness 5/1 Sf candidate .Berty still available @ 12/1 .
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I saw Bertie walking up through Drumcondra the other day.Looks about 90.I think his time has passed.
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I saw Bertie walking up through Drumcondra the other day.Looks about 90.I think his time has passed.
In a World of Dodgey Cunts like The Orange Idiot .Farage ,The New lad in Poland .Rattlecan Zalessney .We need a clever mouth to play the Game .......Whos Cleverer ?
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I saw Bertie walking up through Drumcondra the other day.Looks about 90.I think his time has passed.
In a World of Dodgey Cunts like The Orange Idiot .Farage ,The New lad in Poland .Rattlecan Zalessney .We need a clever mouth to play the Game .......Whos Cleverer ?
It's ceremonial role. If elected it says we openly endorse corrupt individuals. Tipperary folk voted Lowry in again and again in an "Anti Dublin" manoeuvre.
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Bertie Ahern @12/1 with Paddy Power to be next President .Explained ?to be president you must get 50% plus 1 vote of all votes cast .SF could get 30% but where can they get the other 20% not from FG who hate them not from the Left as they will already have that vote in their 30% so in reality SF Cannot win .
FG worse problem than SF as they will only get about 20% of the Vote SF voters will not transfer to them plus Mc Guinness is the preferred FG candidate at the Moment .If Leo is gone and I think he will be fucked out after the local elections and Harris id the Leader then Francis Fitzgerald could be the FG candidate both unelectable cannot get to 50% .
Labour votes will be gobbled up by SF so they cannot realistically expect to get a President elected .
It is unlikely that any Independent will get enough County Councils to give them the Nomination .
So Bertie .FF have nobody else who can appeal to the whole country Probably Barry Andrews but nobody else .FF will get about 20% of the vote .SF would transfer to Gerry Adams old mate Bertie Aherne Adams will sort of tell them Bertie can be trusted .FG will also transfer to Berty to stop SF getting the Gig .Could also be other election issues at play .If SF support Bertie it might encourage FF to go into Coalition with them after the General election as a united group of Republican Parties .If Bertie gets the FF Nomination he will be favourite about 5/4 to get the gig .
Bertie @ 12/1 will be my next long term bet .
Looking at this Bet again .Maraid Mc Guinness is 8/11 Favourite HOW THE FUCK can she get to 50% not a chance .Lefties Sf /Labour Ranting and Raving Party cannot get there Its a Two horse race Between Berty or Cathrine Connolly if she can get a Nomonation .I think it will be a Four Horse Race .Mc Guinness ,Fg.Berty FF ,Who knows SF .with Cathrine Connolly or Fracis Black the X Alcoholic Cabaret Singer . If I was making a market based on these 4 .6/5 Berty 5/4 Connolly 7/2 Mc Guinness 5/1 Sf candidate .Berty still available @ 12/1 .
Where are you pulling all these mythical betting figures from ?
Here is the actual betting;
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/european-politics/irish-politics/next-president (https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/european-politics/irish-politics/next-president)
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Check out Bet 365 for the MYTHICAL FIGURES YOU CALLING ME A LIAR ..
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Check out Bet 365 for the MYTHICAL FIGURES YOU CALLING ME A LIAR ..
NO, not calling you a liar, but 7 other firms offer her at 7/4 or better, which you kinda neglected to mention when quoting her as 8/11 Favourite !
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Did I suggest Backing Her The market is Distorted .Berty can be backed FF @ 10s Connolly could also be backed @10/1 .I have explained why I dont think FG or SF can win they wont transfer to each other so need to get 50% from only &0% of the actual vote Cant be done and if it can 2/1 is not the right price .I have a good bet on Berty From 20/1 down to !0/1 and backing Connolly to cover my Stake .
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I would agree that Berty is odds-on IF he runs, but I don't think he will run.
What is in your favour John m is that he has not dismissed himself from the running, and the longer that goes on, the better fer your wager.
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I would agree that Berty is odds-on IF he runs, but I don't think he will run.
What is in your favour John m is that he has not dismissed himself from the running, and the longer that goes on, the better fer your wager.
No other FF has been doing the Chicken in a Basket Circuit .PLUS FF cannot afford to lose a sitting TD .That is why I think Cathrine Connolly has a chance of a Nomonation .some of the Independents supporting Government could support he .If she gets the Gig there will be a By election the Government should win ?
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Andrews says he dosent want the Gig .Is it getting to the stage of Berty or an agreed Government Candidate ? Nobody else in FF wants the Gig .
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I would agree that Berty is odds-on IF he runs, but I don't think he will run.
What is in your favour John m is that he has not dismissed himself from the running, and the longer that goes on, the better fer your wager.
No other FF has been doing the Chicken in a Basket Circuit .PLUS FF cannot afford to lose a sitting TD .That is why I think Cathrine Connolly has a chance of a Nomonation .some of the Independents supporting Government could support he .If she gets the Gig there will be a By election the Government should win ?
If Ahern is nominated we should campaign for the national flag to be changed to a €50 note.
It's already being considered in Limerick with their gay Mayor, bought by Uber, allegedly.
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Who is better than Bertie ? The toxic Dwarf couldnt keep his mouth Shut but Berty knows how to do that .Berty could hold a Conversation with Trump and neither of them would understand what they just said or heard .Next 3 years going to be Dangerous for Irish Economy with Trump looking for small any Victory .We need a Politician in the Park not a Tv personality who stinks of Cow Shit or an X Alcoholic Cabaret Star
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Mick Martin has told FF TDs NO WAY is Berty to be allowed Run .Any TD proposing or seconding him will never see any promotion .Martin thinks Berty running would bring up to many bad memories plus Martin Hates Berty personally .
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Still I think it may be down to Lowrey.He is pulling all the strings for this government.Not sure how much Lowry likes Berty though?………
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FF were looking for somebody outside Politics .Niall Quinns name was mentioned but he was done for Drink Driving a few years ago returning from a game of Gold .Rumour at the time was it was another FF member who rang the Gards as Quinn was being considered to run in the General Election for FF in Terenure .Crumlin .
Government cannot give up a sitting TD FF have nobody not tainted by the past . No real outstanding Candidate .I recon it will be a very low turnout under 45% .
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Mick Martin has told FF TDs NO WAY is Berty to be allowed Run .Any TD proposing or seconding him will never see any promotion .Martin thinks Berty running would bring up to many bad memories plus Martin Hates Berty personally .
Where did you get all that from ?
Please don't say; "It was on Facebook" ?
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Mick Martin has told FF TDs NO WAY is Berty to be allowed Run .Any TD proposing or seconding him will never see any promotion .Martin thinks Berty running would bring up to many bad memories plus Martin Hates Berty personally .
Where did you get all that from ?
Please don't say; "It was on Facebook" ?
Mate of mine was a Councillor .Talking to him yesterday .They recon Berty as the Candidate would Damage the FF brand bring up old scores .FF dont have anybody recognisable that would have a winning chance .Quinny and others outside Politics were being Considered .I remember Quinny being Done for Drink Driving on his way home from a FF organised Fundraiser .Strange how he got pulled over ? Dont know if he was joking or not but the First Question potential Candidates are being asked is Do you speak Irish .
Breathalised on the M50 .Former Republic of Ireland international soccer player Niall Quinn has been banned from driving for three months and fined €200 for drink-driving.
Mr Quinn (39), Longstonerath, Naas, Co. Kildare, admitted driving with excess alcohol on the M50 in Dublin on July 29 ththis year when he appeared before Dublin District Court.
Judge Mary Collins imposed the mandatory disqualification of just three months as the alcohol reading was low. She also gave him a month to pay the €200 fine.
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If Bertie Ahern was to be nominated and won, here's what the national flag would look like:
(https://i.postimg.cc/YCQgZkBV/Envelope.jpg) (https://postimages.org/) 8)
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The Dark Destroyers in FG are loading the Shit Cannon .Like I said earlier Mc Guinness is unelectable .He own Party are coming for her .FG suddenly discover FF might not run a Candidate so it could be a Walkover .Will Enda put his hand up now ?
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Anybody got an outsider for this half a million plus gaff and Staff Gig .FF dont want Berty ,FG dont want Mc Gunniss but do want the Aras .SF cant win it .Joe Duffy being mentioned in Dispatches but really a Radio Comic as President , The Lefties cannot muster enough votes to nominate a candidate without SF help .So looking at it The GOVERNMENT might Nominate a Candidate Who? ENDA possibly if it looks like a walkover .Cannot be a lose Cannon like Higgins again . Imagine a Presidential Election years ago brought down Charlie now it dosent seem to matter .Its still Democratically the Most Important Job in the Country as the President must Pass all bills into Law .What does it say about Democracy when nobody wants the Gig .
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How about this?
1. People are generally stupid nowadays, don't read newspapers and get their 'facts' from the likes of FB and instagram. Gerry Adams just won a big libel case against the BBC and that will soften the cough of the media in Ireland about commenting on Mr Adams.
2. SF are already cyber experts at pushing their (cough cough) version of events on the internet.
3. Would it be a big stretch in a small field for a 'peace maker, statesman, cuddly book author' like Adams to get elected to 'close the chapter' on NI and start a 'new dawn' on the island of Ireland. Everybody can be one big happy family - Catholics, Prods, Straights, Gays, Able-bodied, Dis-abled people O:-) O:-) O:-)
OK, I'll take my tablets now and go back to bed ::sleep
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How about this?
1. People are generally stupid nowadays, don't read newspapers and get their 'facts' from the likes of FB and instagram. Gerry Adams just won a big libel case against the BBC and that will soften the cough of the media in Ireland about commenting on Mr Adams.
2. SF are already cyber experts at pushing their (cough cough) version of events on the internet.
3. Would it be a big stretch in a small field for a 'peace maker, statesman, cuddly book author' like Adams to get elected to 'close the chapter' on NI and start a 'new dawn' on the island of Ireland. Everybody can be one big happy family - Catholics, Prods, Straights, Gays, Able-bodied, Dis-abled people O:-) O:-) O:-)
OK, I'll take my tablets now and go back to bed ::sleep
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All valid points but Adams like Berty will bring up past .I think with the Big Orange Shite going Rogue the EU going to have to stand up to him .We need a security Guard to look after the Gaff for a few years not a President or nutter .Enda might not mind a 7 year shift for the National Good sort of thing .Some are saying it is not a Political Job but it is a Diplomatic one so needs somebody without a big Gob like Mc alese ,Robinson or Mick .Who might use the office to push their agenda .Think that rules out Adams .
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Enda might be done. Has he kept his finger in the pie and gone on any state boards and the like? Think his daughter got elected to a council so the dynasty is intact. And I think he went hippy and spends his days cycling around the place smelling the fresh air.
Trump likes 'strong men' and Adams has that past (allegedly). Adams fought the British for 30 years & dealt who many Prime Ministers & rumour says he knows how to deal with people who disagree with him. TACO Trump would be no match for Adams.
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Catherine Connolly.
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Catherine Connolly.
I would vote for her but I dont think she can get a Nomination
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Catherine Connolly.
I would vote for her but I dont think she can get a Nomination
Kenny is a national embarrassment, Ahern is a virtual felon, none of whom have statesman-like stature.
Connolly has the composure.
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There's talk the 'Left' will try and put forward a consensus candidate. She leans that way but, as an independent, would she join in with the 'Left' including PBP et al?
Having said that, wikipedia says she's a woman ( :o ), a lawyer and she speaks the cupla focal so she's 90% of the way there . All she needs is a few farmers' votes and she's a cert :P
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There's talk the 'Left' will try and put forward a consensus candidate. She leans that way but, as an independent, would she join in with the 'Left' including PBP et al?
Having said that, wikipedia says she's a woman ( :o ), a lawyer and she speaks the cupla focal so she's 90% of the way there . All she needs is a few farmers' votes and she's a cert :P
Is Fergus Finlay not interested?
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Had to check if he was still alive! He's 75 apparently.
Once bitten, twice shy?
(wiki) On 9 September 2010, Finlay announced that he would seek the Labour Party nomination to contest the 2011 Irish presidential election to elect the successor to Mary McAleese as President of Ireland.[3] Michael D. Higgins eventually won that nomination. Finlay congratulated Higgins on his victory, saying he was "looking forward" to Higgins' Presidency.
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Going to be Joe Duffy..... ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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Had to check if he was still alive! He's 75 apparently.
Once bitten, twice shy?
(wiki) On 9 September 2010, Finlay announced that he would seek the Labour Party nomination to contest the 2011 Irish presidential election to elect the successor to Mary McAleese as President of Ireland.[3] Michael D. Higgins eventually won that nomination. Finlay congratulated Higgins on his victory, saying he was "looking forward" to Higgins' Presidency.
How about an Indian?
https://www.sdcc.ie/en/services/our-council/councillors/cllr-baby-pereppadan.html (https://www.sdcc.ie/en/services/our-council/councillors/cllr-baby-pereppadan.html)
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McGuinness to be FG nominee as Connolly to launch Áras bid tomorrow (https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/0715/1523624-ireland-presidential-election/)
Independent TD Catherine Connolly is expected to launch her campaign for the Presidency tomorrow. It's understood that the Galway West TD will speak to Raidió Na Gaeltachta.
Meanwhile, former EU Commissioner Mairead McGuinness will be Fine Gael's candidate for the contest. Her name was the only one put forward when nominations closed this afternoon. Fine Gael will ratify her candidacy in September.
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McGuinness to be FG nominee as Connolly to launch Áras bid tomorrow (https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/0715/1523624-ireland-presidential-election/)
Independent TD Catherine Connolly is expected to launch her campaign for the Presidency tomorrow. It's understood that the Galway West TD will speak to Raidió Na Gaeltachta.
Meanwhile, former EU Commissioner Mairead McGuinness will be Fine Gael's candidate for the contest. Her name was the only one put forward when nominations closed this afternoon. Fine Gael will ratify her candidacy in September.
Connolly might struggle to get 20 members to back her .Still dont like Mc Guinness cant see how she gets to 50% +1 vote to win it .Same with Mary from the Navan Road ,Berty is the only one who can get FG votes to stop SF winning and Sf transfers to stop FG winning .If he can get the Nomonation I think he is favourite .Connolly could get support from some government supporting Independents in the hope she could win cause a by election that the Government might win .Its all going to get vicious now .
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M. Martin, leader of FF, gets a mention as a 'maybe' in every second newspaper story. I didn't realise he was that unpopular within his party lol
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M. Martin, leader of FF, gets a mention as a 'maybe' in every second newspaper story. I didn't realise he was that unpopular within his party lol
His own Dublin Based Td s wouldnt even Vote for Him .He is in Power and as soon as he hands over to Harris he will resign as FF leader wont stand again for Dail Go on a nice load of Company Boards get a cushy EU Job or UN Job like Leo and Eamon the Cabbage or the other Eamon from Labour .
I was the First person to mention Niall Quinn I see some Jurno from the Irish Times who probably reads this Forum has suggested him as well .A lot of Jurnos seem to write about things first mentioned on this Forum ?
https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2025/07/12/in-years-to-come-we-will-ask-so-where-were-you-the-day-you-heard-that-pat-the-cope-was-willing-to-run-for-president/ (https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2025/07/12/in-years-to-come-we-will-ask-so-where-were-you-the-day-you-heard-that-pat-the-cope-was-willing-to-run-for-president/)
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Catherine Connelly by a mile…Only honest woman in politics.I think she will get enough nominations.!! ::cheers
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Catherine Connelly by a mile…Only honest woman in politics.I think she will get enough nominations.!! ::cheers
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It's early days but interesting how the newspapers are approaching things...
The Indo headline says one thing but could mean another -- "Modest and limited activities’ – how Mairead McGuinness played down Fine Gael campaigning activities to Ursula von der Leyen (https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/modest-and-limited-activities-how-mairead-mcguinness-played-down-fine-gael-campaigning-activities-to-ursula-von-der-leyen/a1280702797.html)."
Over in the Irish Times, they have their main story -- Mairead McGuinness leads the field in a list of potential presidential election candidates, poll shows (https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2025/07/19/mairead-mcguinness-leads-in-presidential-election-poll-but-public-imagination-yet-to-be-caught/https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2025/07/19/mairead-mcguinness-leads-in-presidential-election-poll-but-public-imagination-yet-to-be-caught/) -- with an inside story (https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2025/07/19/who-is-mairead-mcguinness-the-early-front-runner-in-the-presidential-race/) with a sub-headline, "Fine Gael hopeful is seen as a superb communicator and ‘parliament whisperer’, but her proximity to Ursula von der Leyen may not be an electoral asset"."
The Irish Times poll says ~40% have no opinion yet on who they would vote for. Subtle headlines like the above could move people's opinion either way.
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McGuinness now the Even money favourite Fav, Berty out to 16/1 with Lawbreakers !
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/european-politics/irish-politics/next-president (https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/european-politics/irish-politics/next-president)
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Deirdre who?
Ulster University professor Deirdre Heenan ‘in final stages of talks’ to be Fianna Fáil presidential candidate (https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/ulster-university-professor-deirdre-heenan-in-final-stages-of-talks-to-be-fianna-fail-presidential-candidate/a1346138120.html)
Ulster University professor Deirdre Heenan is being tipped as Fianna Fáil’s candidate for the presidential election. She is said to be in the final stages of negotiations to contest the autumn poll. Prof Heenan said she could “neither confirm nor deny” that she had been approached by the party.
However, sources say the former provost and dean of academic development at the Magee campus is leading the race as the preferred candidate of Taoiseach Micheál Martin. Fianna Fáil is keen to replicate the success of Belfast lawyer and academic Mary McAleese, who was president from 1997 to 2011. Michael D Higgins’ term ends in October and he is not eligible to stand again.
Prof Heenan is a former member of President Higgins’ council of state (An Chomhairle Stáit), an advisory body primarily consulted on matters related to the President’s discretionary powers. From Annaclone, Co Down, she was educated at Banbridge Academy and Ulster University. She lives in Derry with her husband and three sons.
It is 28 years since Fianna Fáil contested a presidential election, with Mrs McAleese in 1997. She is the only president to have come from Northern Ireland. Up until 1990, every president had been a Fianna Fáil nominee: Douglas Hyde, Sean T O’Kelly, Eamon de Valera, Erskine Childers, Cearbhall Ó Dálaigh and Patrick Hillery.
Her opponents will be happy to ask if she's a worthy replacement for that other white, female, N.I. academic or is she an inferior 'McAleese' clone.
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Betfair not laying Irish President betting today .Boylesports 5/! Berty .I went into Powers to try get the 14/1 Berty they will take a 5er .
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Betfair not laying Irish President betting today .Boylesports 5/! Berty .I went into Powers to try get the 14/1 Berty they will take a 5er .
Defo a good sign fer you to see Berty shortning in price.
Did you take any of Lawbreakers 16/1 that was available fer the last 2 weeks ?
Or did you just chance Powers fer de snakey score at 14/1 AFTER seeing Boyles shorten him to 6/1 ?
Most likely you can still get at few quid on with Lad and PP if you wear out a birra shoe leather.
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Im on Ken for as much as I wanted ..I see the market settling if the four are Berty .Mary Lou .Connolly and Mcguinness .Something like 2/1 Berty 9/4 Connolly 5/2 the other two .Berty and Connolly the most reansfer friendly .Lefties wont want FG to win it FG wont want Shinners to win it .So Berty or Connolly should get the transfers .Connolly question is can she avoid finishing last in first preferences ?
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Im on Ken for as much as I wanted ..I see the market settling if the four are Berty .Mary Lou .Connolly and Mcguinness .Something like 2/1 Berty 9/4 Connolly 5/2 the other two .Berty and Connolly the most reansfer friendly .Lefties wont want FG to win it FG wont want Shinners to win it .So Berty or Connolly should get the transfers .Connolly question is can she avoid finishing last in first preferences ?
What was the average price you got on at ?
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about 14.5 .give or take .If I was certain berty will get the nod .I would lay mc Guinness at anything under 2/1 .Think she is a false favourite just because she was more or less certain to get the nomination .The Berty Question is will anybody care about his past .Look at Trump ,Farage ,Celebrity no matter how shaded seems to be popular with voters .Also think the EU look weak against Trump so anty EU sentiment wont favour Mc Guinness .BUT will Berty get the Nomonation ?
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about 14.5 .give or take .If I was certain berty will get the nod .I would lay mc Guinness at anything under 2/1 .Think she is a false favourite just because she was more or less certain to get the nomination .The Berty Question is will anybody care about his past .Look at Trump ,Farage ,Celebrity no matter how shaded seems to be popular with voters .Also think the EU look weak against Trump so anty EU sentiment wont favour Mc Guinness .BUT will Berty get the Nomonation ?
I think the bigger problem is, does He want the nomination ?
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Thats another issue Ken .If he thinks he can win it he will want it .Gaff for 14 years and 230000 a year plus graft .He be Perfect he wouldnt be calling out other governments or running his own agenda .Might be important with the World the way it is .We dont need to be annoying Anybody .Think Connolly would use the Office for her own agenda same with SF .Thats why I think in the End FF will nominate him .A safe pair of hands in Stormy times .Boylesports now 5/1
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A lay off (if you're well up) might be a consideration?
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@ John m; If he gets and accepts the FF nomination and goes 2/1 fav fer the contest, will you hedge or partially hedge or stick it out ?
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@ John m; If he gets and accepts the FF nomination and goes 2/1 fav fer the contest, will you hedge or partially hedge or stick it out ?
I will stick Ken .I played Berty ,Connolly and Mary lou on Bet 365 and I was offered a Cash out in all cases for small money and took it .I have a few ton on Berty stands me about 160 notes and a Paid for book keeping services with a Berty Wager last year .My total outlay is not much .I might lay off after the First Count .That reminds me I must apply for work at the count .23 euro per hour first 8 double time after that double time on day two .
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@ John m; If he gets and accepts the FF nomination and goes 2/1 fav fer the contest, will you hedge or partially hedge or stick it out ?
I will stick Ken .I played Berty ,Connolly and Mary lou on Bet 365 and I was offered a Cash out in all cases for small money and took it .I have a few ton on Berty stands me about 160 notes and a Paid for book keeping services with a Berty Wager last year .My total outlay is not much .I might lay off after the First Count .That reminds me I must apply for work at the count .23 euro per hour first 8 double time after that double time on day two .
Could you explain that a tad better ?
In Line 1 you say Stick, in Line 3 you say Might lay off ??
And I don't understand much of the rest of it.
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I had a few quid on Collins @14s with Bet 365 when she was declared a possible runner they offered a cash out @about 4/7 to my stake .I dont really fancy her so I took the few quid .I did same with Mary lou and Berty ..My real berty Bet is with Powers .I could of waited and tried to lay off Collins or MaryLou but they were not certain runners with Betfair later but some times there is no equity and I dont really have the cash to lodge with Betfair to cover the Bet.
I picked up a few bits of loose change from 365
If Bertie dosent run I have no idea who wins it .Will SF try to Dump Mary Lou as leader by running her ?I dont think Mc Guinness can win even if it was a walkover .
Meself and the Rodent are holding Dockets on Berty
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I had a few quid on Collins @14s with Bet 365 when she was declared a possible runner they offered a cash out @about 4/7 to my stake .I dont really fancy her so I took the few quid .I did same with Mary lou and Berty ..My real berty Bet is with Powers .I could of waited and tried to lay off Collins or MaryLou but they were not certain runners with Betfair later but some times there is no equity and I dont really have the cash to lodge with Betfair to cover the Bet.
I picked up a few bits of loose change from 365
If Bertie dosent run I have no idea who wins it .Will SF try to Dump Mary Lou as leader by running her ?I dont think Mc Guinness can win even if it was a walkover .
Meself and the Rodent are holding Dockets on Berty
That didn't help much but I'm kinda getting the Jist of it.
Your reply is a bit like a Knacker in the cab telling you where to go !
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My Politico mate says its Mary Lou if she wants it--but she has various family health issues as for Bertie no chance ,Mick hates him for what he did to party !
But the way the world is voting fuck knows !
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My Politico mate says its Mary Lou if she wants it--but she has various family health issues as for Bertie no chance ,Mick hates him for what he did to party !
But the way the world is voting fuck knows !
I did post Mick has told Td s if you support Berty no promotion but Mick from Cork is gone after The Early School leaver takes over Mick will Step down to Back benches .
In SF Circles Mary Low is looked on as a Fucking Waste of Space a Loser and A liability .Since she took over they have Stagnated .The Army Council would love to move her aside a Presidential Nomonation would mean they would replace her with Docherty or the Health Spokesperson .
Here is the Question Political Parties need to ask Can FG win NO Why 30% of voters will vote SF they would give Jimmy Saville their second prefrence before FG .Another 10% of voters wont vote for any party so FG need to get 50% of the vote out of 60% of the Ballott not going to happen Same could be said for sf FG wont transfer to them .Berty is the Compromise Candidate FG will transfer to him to stop sf and sf wont be offended by Berty he worked with them on Good Friday .Connolly would need to finish ahead of one of the big three to hope to leapfrog others to the Park .Dont think FF have a more universal Candidate than Berty .
MY OPinion Berty if he runs wins it only challenge will be Connolly .
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Phoenix magazine reckon Bertie won't get nominated.
- Martin hates him
- Presidential elections can be brutal and FF are worried the tribunals will ruin him and remind people about the Haughey quote - "the most devious of them all".
- FF might go with a 'Government' candidate (i.e. the FG one) to save money and because they can't make a decision.
We seem to elect 'do-gooders' to the position in the past decade or two and 'the most devious of them all' mightn't be 'good' enough.
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Phoenix magazine reckon Bertie won't get nominated.
- Martin hates him
- Presidential elections can be brutal and FF are worried the tribunals will ruin him and remind people about the Haughey quote - "the most devious of them all".
- FF might go with a 'Government' candidate (i.e. the FG one) to save money and because they can't make a decision.
We seem to elect 'do-gooders' to the position in the past decade or two and 'the most devious of them all' mightn't be 'good' enough.
I posted that already If Berty dosent run Connolly will be Fav .FG cannot get 50% from 60% of the Vote 40% wont have FG ..So its up to Martin do they want a Marxist President .
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FF/FG might hold their nose and vote for a 'government' candidate. All for the 'national good' of course! They're more likely to vote for that candidate before the SF one?
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FF/FG might hold their nose and vote for a 'government' candidate. All for the 'national good' of course! They're more likely to vote for that candidate before the SF one?
Berty wont offend Shinners will get FG support to keep Mary Low out and the Marxist .I have explained Mary Low or The Farmer cannot get 50% out of 60% of the vote at least 40% will not vote Sf or FG .Its sort of impossible for either to win the Continuity Communist after Little Mickey is Connolly .So FF decision is going into the next general election do they want to have FG with the Taoiseachs office and the Farmer in the Park .FF cannot afford to put a sitting TD forward so the choices are limited .Martin hates Berty but Martin is a busted flush his own mother probably dosent like hin No Dublin Based TD has any time for him .
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I dunno. It's not a normal election to pick a *politician* for the Dail. We tend to act funny when voting for *Ireland*. Look at the last 3 presidents*, and divorce, gay rights & abortion. Secretly most parents would probably be horrified if their own kid turned out to be gay or had an abortion. But when we vote for *Ireland*, we vote in ways than might not be our core beliefs.
So if you're an 'on-the-fence' FF/FG voter and it's a choice between the government candidate and SF, you might just go with McGuiness (for the national good). She talks nice and dresses well. She's European but also rural Ireland (married to a sheep farmer). There's probably some GAA connection there as well. She won't embarrass us on the world stage. A SF president might go off script (like Michael D Higgins) and start moaning about political stuff like Gaza and other hot spots around the world (like Irish re-unification :P )
* I know Michael D was an experienced politician but he's played the poet-bard-professor thing to perfection.
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Id go for Dick Turpin. A robber who wears a mask
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Might have to have a real election now?
Mairead McGuinness withdraws from presidential race (https://www.rte.ie/news/presidential-election/2025/0814/1528512-mairead-mcguinness/)
Fine Gael presidential candidate Mairead McGuinness has announced that she is withdrawing from the race. In a statement released this afternoon, Ms McGuinness said the decision was not taken lightly, and followed a stay in hospital last week.
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Might have to have a real election now?
Mairead McGuinness withdraws from presidential race (https://www.rte.ie/news/presidential-election/2025/0814/1528512-mairead-mcguinness/)
Fine Gael presidential candidate Mairead McGuinness has announced that she is withdrawing from the race. In a statement released this afternoon, Ms McGuinness said the decision was not taken lightly, and followed a stay in hospital last week.
As I posted originally, Catherine Connolly for President.
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She done the Maths
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FG internal poll was the real reason she pulled out to save HER money as Candidates need to pony up .She was only on 11% .Like I said FG cannot win it .Neither can the Shinners .
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FG internal poll was the real reason she pulled out to save HER money as Candidates need to pony up .She was only on 11% .Like I said FG cannot win it .Neither can the Shinners .
I don't think that most people lie about health issues.
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FG internal poll was the real reason she pulled out to save HER money as Candidates need to pony up .She was only on 11% .Like I said FG cannot win it .Neither can the Shinners .
I don't think that most people lie about health issues.
No but you can be sure if she was on 40% of the vote she would appear in a wheelchair attached to a drip with a crew of resuscitators .She knew she was a no hope I explained on here why .I told Gay Mitchell the exact same thing 14 years ago .FG cannot win it SF cannot win it .I recon FF might decide NOT to run a Candidate .Then Berty enters the Fray gets the Nomonation by getting enough FF leaning Councils .So like Sean Gallagher he runs as the Independent FF official unofficial candidate .Bet yu didnt read that anywhere eles in Irish Media .
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You have to wonder about the deluded egos of Gareth Sheridan, Mc Gregor, and Flatley, is it possible that they have some other agenda, because they can't be that narcissistic to believe that they could be elected.
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You have to wonder about the deluded egos of Gareth Sheridan, Mc Gregor, and Flatley, is it possible that they have some other agenda, because they can't be that narcissistic to believe that they could be elected.
When you have Purse and can afford to buy stuff you desire the stuff you cannot buy .JP Mc Manus spends hundreds of Millions on his desire to own Champion Racehorses .Clinton ,Trump desired young Girls .All Politics is Ego .Imagine canvassing on a cold night just to be abused by every second door but still you continue .
Nobody gets remembered for their bank balance but we remember murderers despots .You notice Carnagie left his money to build Libraries .Who was the next wealthiest man in his times ? When you have real money you realise it is worthless you cannot spend it .So have a go at being remembered .We can remember Casey the Beaten Presidential Candidate but who was he apart from a Presidential Candidate ?
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Catherine Connolly says we ‘cannot trust’ the US, England and France (https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2025/08/16/catherine-connolly-says-we-cannot-trust-the-us-england-and-france/) (Irish Times, Paywall)
Bit early to be telling us her real opinions oops
She's giving out about NATO, the EU and how everything is getting over-militarized & the lack of real democracy etc etc. Probably true but her opponents will tear strips off her for this. E.G., might achieve more if 'inside the tent' e.g. Aiken, neutral ireland @ the UN & the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
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Catherine Connolly says we ‘cannot trust’ the US, England and France (https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2025/08/16/catherine-connolly-says-we-cannot-trust-the-us-england-and-france/) (Irish Times, Paywall)
Bit early to be telling us her real opinions oops
She's giving out about NATO, the EU and how everything is getting over-militarized & the lack of real democracy etc etc. Probably true but her opponents will tear strips off her for this. E.G., might achieve more if 'inside the tent' e.g. Aiken, neutral ireland @ the UN & the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
Berty would tear her apart just ask her whats the alternative .Watch the big puddle of Dihorea selling out Zaleszznyy .Telling him he needs to do a Deal because Putin in bigger than he is .Seriously we NEED Berty as in NEED imagine a Marxist or a Socialist like Connolly or Mary Low ranting about the price of Odlums Self Raising Flower and Agent Orange being dropped on Kids in Palastine .The Job of the President is to do like all good Public Servants Collect your wages .Its bollox like that from her might force FF hand to go for Berty .
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After McGuinness from FG pulled out last week I found it strange that the bookies slashed Berty who would be a FF candidate from 14/1 to 4/1 ??
Anyways things have settled down a bit since and Heather Humpries is now 3rd Fav at about 4/1, with Berty the 4th choice of the bookies at about 6/1.
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/european-politics/irish-politics/next-president (https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/european-politics/irish-politics/next-president)
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Even stranger that the RTE report a day after McGuinness pulled out listed the Runners and Riders fer the Aras, and Berty even though 3rd Fav with the bookies that day did not get a single mention in that RTE report ??
https://www.rte.ie/news/presidential-election/2025/0811/1523687-presidential-election/ (https://www.rte.ie/news/presidential-election/2025/0811/1523687-presidential-election/)
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Have this bet fer yourself John m, if nothing else then just to keep me Happy !
€10 on Gerry Adams at 100/1 with Ladbrokes.
My thinking on the SF candidate;
Neither Mary Lou or Michelle have any interest in running, Pearse is just the Stoopidist politician I have ever heard speak, and I think SF will want to run a candidate.
SF defo had/have the empathy of Irish voters as was proven in not so long past elections and that might still hold fer an Aras election bid.
Everyone is this country knows who Gerry was and is and I think most respect him highly fer being a positive part of getting the 1998 Good Friday agreement passed.
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Have this bet fer yourself John m, if nothing else then just to keep me Happy !
€10 on Gerry Adams at 100/1 with Ladbrokes.
My thinking on the SF candidate;
Neither Mary Lou or Michelle have any interest in running, Pearse is just the Stoopidist politician I have ever heard speak, and I think SF will want to run a candidate.
SF defo had/have the empathy of Irish voters as was proven in not so long past elections and that might still hold fer an Aras election bid.
Everyone is this country knows who Gerry was and is and I think most respect him highly fer being a positive part of getting the 1998 Good Friday agreement passed.
Again 40% of People would not wipe their arse with adams Me Included .Dont think he or any Shinner Can win .Shinners want Mary Low out of the way she is a Fucking waste of Space has advanced the Party nowhere no progress under her .In the Old Days Stakeknife would of sorted that out .FG Mc Guinness done the Sums to much anti EU for her to win so she cut and ran .Heather Humphries was good during Covid a Good Prod so is a Unifying candidate .Connolly is a Marxist Femanist mouth Piece not needed it Todays Ireland where Trump is going to Shit all over us .We need a Wide Boy knows how to tiddle bollox whe bollox tiddling is needed not start a revolution .The Winner of the Contest has not yet entered possibly not yet even mentioned FGor sF will struggle to win it .Im thinking Humphries gets the nod FF decide not to run Candidate Berty goes around the Councils or gets 20 members of the Oireachtas .The Spite Filled Culchy from Cork his time is up so FF TDs might give Berty the Independent nod .I would think RTE have been ADVISED to play down Berty if they want any further funding ? I looked at Betfair there was 450 at about ?6/4 to be covered on Mc Guinness but unfortunatly I dont have funds to tie up or I would of covered it .Like I said from the start I never gave her a chance .
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Have this bet fer yourself John m, if nothing else then just to keep me Happy !
€10 on Gerry Adams at 100/1 with Ladbrokes.
My thinking on the SF candidate;
Neither Mary Lou or Michelle have any interest in running, Pearse is just the Stoopidist politician I have ever heard speak, and I think SF will want to run a candidate.
SF defo had/have the empathy of Irish voters as was proven in not so long past elections and that might still hold fer an Aras election bid.
Everyone is this country knows who Gerry was and is and I think most respect him highly fer being a positive part of getting the 1998 Good Friday agreement passed.
Again 40% of People would not wipe their arse with adams Me Included .Dont think he or any Shinner Can win .Shinners want Mary Low out of the way she is a Fucking waste of Space has advanced the Party nowhere no progress under her .In the Old Days Stakeknife would of sorted that out .FG Mc Guinness done the Sums to much anti EU for her to win so she cut and ran .Heather Humphries was good during Covid a Good Prod so is a Unifying candidate .Connolly is a Marxist Femanist mouth Piece not needed it Todays Ireland where Trump is going to Shit all over us .We need a Wide Boy knows how to tiddle bollox whe bollox tiddling is needed not start a revolution .The Winner of the Contest has not yet entered possibly not yet even mentioned FGor sF will struggle to win it .Im thinking Humphries gets the nod FF decide not to run Candidate Berty goes around the Councils or gets 20 members of the Oireachtas .The Spite Filled Culchy from Cork his time is up so FF TDs might give Berty the Independent nod .I would think RTE have been ADVISED to play down Berty if they want any further funding ? I looked at Betfair there was 450 at about ?6/4 to be covered on Mc Guinness but unfortunatly I dont have funds to tie up or I would of covered it .Like I said from the start I never gave her a chance .
Have €10 on Gerry Adams at 100/1 with Ladbrokes just to make me Happy ! lol
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I might do Ken .He would be one of possibly 3 candidates if that was how it played out .He would only have to finish second ahead of Connolly and could get the lefty and the right wing foreigner votes who belive the Shinners are all about a United IRELAND and would have the Foreigners out when they believe the opposite .
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I might do Ken .He would be one of possibly 3 candidates if that was how it played out .He would only have to finish second ahead of Connolly and could get the lefty and the right wing foreigner votes who belive the Shinners are all about a United IRELAND and would have the Foreigners out when they believe the opposite .
Could ya just have the Fookin bet to keep me Happy ? ::fds
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Catherine Connolly says we ‘cannot trust’ the US, England and France (https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2025/08/16/catherine-connolly-says-we-cannot-trust-the-us-england-and-france/) (Irish Times, Paywall)
Bit early to be telling us her real opinions oops
She's giving out about NATO, the EU and how everything is getting over-militarized & the lack of real democracy etc etc. Probably true but her opponents will tear strips off her for this. E.G., might achieve more if 'inside the tent' e.g. Aiken, neutral ireland @ the UN & the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
Who said "One way to silence a woman in Ireland is to make her President"? 8)
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Can't see Connolly getting it, hasn't got the glam factor of Red Robbo, or Mickey D. If Sean Kelly declares, I'ld say it's his for the taking.
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Can't see Connolly getting it, hasn't got the glam factor of Red Robbo, or Mickey D. If Sean Kelly declares, I'ld say it's his for the taking.
Robbie you need 50% of the votes cast to win .40% of voters would not give either FG or sF a millionth prefrence they cannot win it .If Berty get the Nomonation he wins if he dosent it will go to the least useless .Like Higgins a fucking failed Poet and Politician never achieved fuckall in either sphere and Mc Aleese the Devious Nortyy fucker Played the Catholic Card until her kid turned out a steamer then got all liberal .It will go to the least offensive Cunt .If he gets the Nomonation its Bertys for that reason .The Shinners wont be offended by Berty The FG ers will give him their second prefrences to stop the Shinners .The winner is the least objectonable Cunt not the best Candidate .Sean Kelly would not win a Fg convention never mind a Presidency .He has been an MEP for Donkeys years ,Tell me one thing he has achieved in that time ?
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I might bring this up if Ahern gets a nomination:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfjGSfuSQpA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfjGSfuSQpA)
I attended a candlelit vigil for taxi drivers who couldn't handle the pressure and took their own lives.
Some of whom, worked for a cab company he was guest of honour at the opening ceremony.
He's a rat in an anorak.
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One newspaper commentator made the point that Bertie has the advantage that he knows the questions and muck that'll be thrown at him. And he's had 10+ years to get his answers right. The other candidates don't know what dirt will emerge from all the background digging that'll be done on them... And with the internet nowadays, they'll only have hours to come up with an answer.
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I think that Labour made a big mistake not backing Fregus Finlay, and supporting C. Connolly. Finland would have a great chance.
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I think that Labour made a big mistake not backing Fregus Finlay, and supporting C. Connolly. Finland would have a great chance.
Champaign Socialist ,got more good jobs and seats on boards that Berty .He would have NO chance .Not sure how reliable this is .Berty is looking for the Nom .He is waiting until Mick Martin decides if FF will run a candidate .If they are he will seek it .If they dont then he will try get 20 Td or 4 councils .He is going to look for it .
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One newspaper commentator made the point that Bertie has the advantage that he knows the questions and muck that'll be thrown at him. And he's had 10+ years to get his answers right. The other candidates don't know what dirt will emerge from all the background digging that'll be done on them... And with the internet nowadays, they'll only have hours to come up with an answer.
I didn't like his smirk which accompanied his so called "apology".
I found it strange that with his downfall came the closure of the beauty salon just up the road.
https://www.thejournal.ie/celia-larkin-breaks-down-on-liveline-864-Jul2010/ (https://www.thejournal.ie/celia-larkin-breaks-down-on-liveline-864-Jul2010/)
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ahern-defends-480-weekly-make-up-bill-1.784055 (https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ahern-defends-480-weekly-make-up-bill-1.784055)
Barrack Obama said, "You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig".
How apt! 8)
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If Fg go for yer one she might get the Protestant Vote .Most of that would of been FG vote anyway but she is probably tipping the balance a bit twords FG .I might have to reassess FG chances if she gets the Nomination .If Shinners support Connolly their core voters wont come out to vote .I would make Humphries the Fav at the Moment .
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One newspaper commentator made the point that Bertie has the advantage that he knows the questions and muck that'll be thrown at him. And he's had 10+ years to get his answers right. The other candidates don't know what dirt will emerge from all the background digging that'll be done on them... And with the internet nowadays, they'll only have hours to come up with an answer.
I didn't like his smirk which accompanied his so called "apology".
I found it strange that with his downfall came the closure of the beauty salon just up the road.
https://www.thejournal.ie/celia-larkin-breaks-down-on-liveline-864-Jul2010/ (https://www.thejournal.ie/celia-larkin-breaks-down-on-liveline-864-Jul2010/)
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ahern-defends-480-weekly-make-up-bill-1.784055 (https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ahern-defends-480-weekly-make-up-bill-1.784055)
Barrack Obama said, "You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig".
How apt! 8)
It was a bit more than that! Have you ever walked into a pub and cashed a cheque for ~€9,500? Based on today's money, that's what a TD earns every month before tax. Minister of Finance (at the time) Bertie claimed he didn't have a bank account and used to cash his monthly cheque in Fagans pub...
History tells us it's the cover-up that gets ya, not the original crime naughtiness ::fight
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Watty he was never found Guilty of anything just like Gerry Hutch and John Gilligan .But in the Court of Public Execution there is smoke without fire .Humphries history will be trown up .Her Grandfather signed the Ulster Covenant .So no Shimmer or border area voter are going to support her even ardent FGers ..Like I said I think my OPINION only Berty can WIN it anybody else succeeded as the next worst option .They woll get it so somebody else cant not because they were really wanted .
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Yeah Bertie does stand out but only because he's the best of a weak bunch.
Re the tribunal... in the newspaper article I mentioned above (no link), his line of defence position now is he wasn't found guilty of anything and him and the Tribunal judge just had a difference of opinion!
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Yeah Bertie does stand out but only because he's the best of a weak bunch.
Re the tribunal... in the newspaper article I mentioned above (no link), his line of defence position now is he wasn't found guilty of anything and him and the Tribunal judge just had a difference of opinion!
I remember a case where a thief was found not guilty.
He then asked the judge "Does that mean I get to keep the money?". 8)
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Watty he was never found Guilty of anything just like Gerry Hutch and John Gilligan .But in the Court of Public Execution there is smoke without fire .Humphries history will be trown up .Her Grandfather signed the Ulster Covenant .So no Shimmer or border area voter are going to support her even ardent FGers ..Like I said I think my OPINION only Berty can WIN it anybody else succeeded as the next worst option .They woll get it so somebody else cant not because they were really wanted .
Al Capone was eventually caught on tax evasion.
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I think that Labour made a big mistake not backing Fregus Finlay, and supporting C. Connolly. Finland would have a great chance.
Champaign Socialist ,got more good jobs and seats on boards that Berty .He would have NO chance .Not sure how reliable this is .Berty is looking for the Nom .He is waiting until Mick Martin decides if FF will run a candidate .If they are he will seek it .If they dont then he will try get 20 Td or 4 councils .He is going to look for it .
Have to disagree, best man for the job, and would follow recent trends, even Mc Aleese had to change sides.
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I think that Labour made a big mistake not backing Fregus Finlay, and supporting C. Connolly. Finland would have a great chance.
Champaign Socialist ,got more good jobs and seats on boards that Berty .He would have NO chance .Not sure how reliable this is .Berty is looking for the Nom .He is waiting until Mick Martin decides if FF will run a candidate .If they are he will seek it .If they dont then he will try get 20 Td or 4 councils .He is going to look for it .
Have to disagree, best man for the job, and would follow recent trends, even Mc Aleese had to change sides.
He has been knocking around for years Tell me one thing he has achieved .Collecting Wages for sitting on Boards does not count ? Labour party was for Fucking Wasters who could not get into a Proper Party .With the Exception of Noel Brown the rest were wasters .
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I think that Labour made a big mistake not backing Fregus Finlay, and supporting C. Connolly. Finland would have a great chance.
Champaign Socialist ,got more good jobs and seats on boards that Berty .He would have NO chance .Not sure how reliable this is .Berty is looking for the Nom .He is waiting until Mick Martin decides if FF will run a candidate .If they are he will seek it .If they dont then he will try get 20 Td or 4 councils .He is going to look for it .
Have to disagree, best man for the job, and would follow recent trends, even Mc Aleese had to change sides.
He has been knocking around for years Tell me one thing he has achieved .Collecting Wages for sitting on Boards does not count ? Labour party was for Fucking Wasters who could not get into a Proper Party .With the Exception of Noel Brown the rest were wasters .
My old regular passenger Michael D, (who isn't gay), is a Labour man. Just saying.
Robbo was a red too.
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Fine Fail say they WILL run a Candidate Berty now only 9/2 third fav and he is not even announced yet if he will look for the Nomonation .Wait and see how long before he is on Breakfast With Brian or Radio with Pat the Patsy .?
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Ahern, the canary with Putin:
(https://i.postimg.cc/0yPc7xD8/Ahern.avif) (https://postimg.cc/ZCs8hGwg)
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Support is gathering pace within Fianna Fáil to put Bertie Ahern forward as its candidate for the presidential election.
At least a dozen TDs and senators said they would back the former taoiseach if he chooses to stand.
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https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/european-politics/irish-politics/next-president (https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/european-politics/irish-politics/next-president)
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https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/european-politics/irish-politics/next-president (https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/european-politics/irish-politics/next-president)
I see the grand marshal for next year's Gay Pride Parade is Pat Cox! 8)
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Go on the Bertie!
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And the runners and riders are entering the Parade ring .Former taoiseach Bertie Ahern has credited US president Donald Trump with the speed at which he is progressing talks between Russia and Ukraine.
However, the former leader of Fianna Fáil warned peace should not come at all costs and said there is going to have to be “a lot of hand holding” between Russian president Vladimir Putin and Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky.
Good Man Berty doing a Bit of Proper Politics .Sanity V Connolly or Mary Low .Kill the heads of all Isralies Politics ..Think he just threw his hat in the ring .Mick From Cork wouldnt get half a dozen votes in Dublin .Less chance of winning than Me .
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Didn't President Trump say he and Steve would end the Ukraine war within 3 minutes of taking office?
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Didn't President Trump say he and Steve would end the Ukraine war within 3 minutes of taking office?
Yes but Zalesnyy didnt want to surrender ,that was the plan .Anyhoo Berty beginning his move getting newspaper coverage .Like I posted here over a month ago Mick Martin Hates him but Mick does not have the Numbers to go himself .Poling just 7% in Dublin .So its now simple .The Early School leaver will be Taoiseach going in to the Next election .If Fg hold the top Two offices then What the Fuck is FF ..sF are aware of that as well they do not want FG to hold all the Top jobs .They have a Lot of Jewish Support in USA so cannot support the Marxist Connolly .The Presidential Election this year is Political not just a Hideout for the Remedial Political Child of the big parties .
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Chucky our law!
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Chucky our law!
Rodent I retain a Financial Specialist .I doubt this year he will be rewarded with Berty For President Paddy Power vouchers . rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl
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COULD BERTY RUN AS AN INDEPENDENT ...WITH THE BACKING OF SINN FEIN ?as in Sf do not run a candidate but support Bertys Nomonation ! NOW THAT WOULD BE AN ELECTION .
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COULD BERTY RUN AS AN INDEPENDENT ...WITH THE BACKING OF SINN FEIN ?as in Sf do not run a candidate but support Bertys Nomonation ! NOW THAT WOULD BE AN ELECTION .
Did the government pay Bertie Ahern's salary in cash?
Would he open a bank account, or launder it through a beauty salon (As alleged on other fora)?
Would the national flag be changed to a brown envelope?
Who would he pick as first lady? (Anna Bogle?)
The most cunning, the most devious candidate?
My money is still on Catherine Connolly, (If she distances herself from the crackpot duo of Daly and Wallace).
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I dont believe that Connolly has any chance
chance, even before AK47 dissed her. No star quality.
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I dont believe that Connolly has any chance
chance, even before AK47 dissed her. No star quality.
Can you imagine the damage she would do meeting Trump on Wackers Day !Going to be interesting to watch the Shinners .They cannot win it cant get 50% even with an Armalite .Will they say they are not contesting the Election but will facilitate others to stand .Let their TDs or Senators or Councils they control nominate people to run as they are all in favour of Democracy .Berty becomes their Defacto Candidate
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Berty now 25 /1 with Boylesports but as short as 5/1 with other Bookies .Berty is a cute whore I doubt he would of said he was interested if he didnt have enough support to get on the Ballot .?
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Berty now 25 /1 with Boylesports but as short as 5/1 with other Bookies .Berty is a cute whore I doubt he would of said he was interested if he didnt have enough support to get on the Ballot .?
FF nominate Jim Gavin. There's at least one county I can think of who'd vote for him. 8)
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Mayo?
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Berty now 25 /1 with Boylesports but as short as 5/1 with other Bookies .Berty is a cute whore I doubt he would of said he was interested if he didnt have enough support to get on the Ballot .?
Naw !
Your Goose is yet again cooked on this John m !
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Berty now 25 /1 with Boylesports but as short as 5/1 with other Bookies .Berty is a cute whore I doubt he would of said he was interested if he didnt have enough support to get on the Ballot .?
Naw !
Your Goose is yet again cooked on this John m !
Looks like he is fucked Ken but he has a knack of rising from the Dead .Word from FF is Mick blackguarded the Party not saying who or what would be the Candidate .They picked a Good contestant but are FF Tds happy being outmenouvered .The Big issue is will the Shinners Play politics they CANNOT WIN IT I have a better chance so they could decide not to contest but to FACILITATE other candidates to enter .Could Berty not look for the FF nomination but look for Shinner Support as an Independent and be a De Facto Republican Candidate .25/1 in that Scenario is value .Watch this space .
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Mayo?
Covid was brought in to deny Dublin of 6 in a row! 8)
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Berty now 25 /1 with Boylesports but as short as 5/1 with other Bookies .Berty is a cute whore I doubt he would of said he was interested if he didnt have enough support to get on the Ballot .?
Naw !
Your Goose is yet again cooked on this John m !
Looks like he is fucked Ken but he has a knack of rising from the Dead .Word from FF is Mick blackguarded the Party not saying who or what would be the Candidate .They picked a Good contestant but are FF Tds happy being outmenouvered .The Big issue is will the Shinners Play politics they CANNOT WIN IT I have a better chance so they could decide not to contest but to FACILITATE other candidates to enter .Could Berty not look for the FF nomination but look for Shinner Support as an Independent and be a De Facto Republican Candidate .25/1 in that Scenario is value .Watch this space .
You're Gavin a Laugh! 8)
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Berty now 25 /1 with Boylesports but as short as 5/1 with other Bookies .Berty is a cute whore I doubt he would of said he was interested if he didnt have enough support to get on the Ballot .?
Naw !
Your Goose is yet again cooked on this John m !
Looks like he is fucked Ken but he has a knack of rising from the Dead .Word from FF is Mick blackguarded the Party not saying who or what would be the Candidate .They picked a Good contestant but are FF Tds happy being outmenouvered .The Big issue is will the Shinners Play politics they CANNOT WIN IT I have a better chance so they could decide not to contest but to FACILITATE other candidates to enter .Could Berty not look for the FF nomination but look for Shinner Support as an Independent and be a De Facto Republican Candidate .25/1 in that Scenario is value .Watch this space .
You had your Day in the Sun John m when it was looking like he was going to run and going to be the FF candidate, but that Ship Sailed !
Heather is looking Good !
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Berty now 25 /1 with Boylesports but as short as 5/1 with other Bookies .Berty is a cute whore I doubt he would of said he was interested if he didnt have enough support to get on the Ballot .?
Naw !
Your Goose is yet again cooked on this John m !
Looks like he is fucked Ken but he has a knack of rising from the Dead .Word from FF is Mick blackguarded the Party not saying who or what would be the Candidate .They picked a Good contestant but are FF Tds happy being outmenouvered .The Big issue is will the Shinners Play politics they CANNOT WIN IT I have a better chance so they could decide not to contest but to FACILITATE other candidates to enter .Could Berty not look for the FF nomination but look for Shinner Support as an Independent and be a De Facto Republican Candidate .25/1 in that Scenario is value .Watch this space .
You had your Day in the Sun John m when it was looking like he was going to run and going to be the FF candidate, but that Ship Sailed !
Heather is looking Good !
Heather Ball Versus Head The Ball! 8)
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Berty is out .Mick from Cork takes out another FF Taoiseach but has he hurt his prefered Candidates chances ?
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Berty is out .Mick from Cork takes out another FF Taoiseach but has he hurt his prefered Candidates chances ?
I Dunno ?? And don't care.
I only followed this topic to see if You got a Winner or ...........
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Jaysus... Ifn the erm backed the whole field it'd be a void race!
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Jaysus... Ifn the erm backed the whole field it'd be a void race!
He has a Terrible Knack of being Wrong ALL THE TIME !
In my defence I did Warn him years back not to bet against me, but he took no heed.
I Retired from Gambling after landing my last Coup on the rugby world cup top tryscorer market in Oct 2023. But after a few drinks and luring John m in to my parlor, I have to slap myself on the wrist fer yet again pulling the wool over his eyes ! Which I know I should not do, it's like taking Candy from a Baby !
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Jaysus... Ifn the erm backed the whole field it'd be a void race!
He has a Terrible Knack of being Wrong ALL THE TIME !
In my defence I did Warn him years back not to bet against me, but he took no heed.
I Retired from Gambling after landing my last Coup on the rugby world cup top tryscorer market in Oct 2023. But after a few drinks and luring John m in to my parlor, I have to slap myself on the wrist fer yet again pulling the wool over his eyes ! Which I know I should not do, it's like taking Candy from a Baby !
I lost a few quid here and there ,But You lost more you sad desperate fucking loser .Once a Millionaire Family man now a fucking waste of oxygen .Your a Pathetic excuse for a human being .Dont fuck with me you pathetic fuckwit Ill put you on the end of a rope .I know more about you ,you useless pile of shite than you realize .DO NOT FUCK WITH ME You dont have Game .
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... I lost a few quid here and there ,But You lost more you sad desperate fucking loser .Once a Millionaire Family man now a fucking waste of oxygen .Your a Pathetic excuse for a human being .Dont fuck with me you pathetic fuckwit Ill put you on the end of a rope .I know more about you ,you useless pile of shite than you realize .DO NOT FUCK WITH ME You dont have Game .
WOW ! Like WOW !!
If that's Not Doob Council Scum comment, then what is ??
It seems that I really got your 'Goat Up' John m, that was not my intention. But it's fair to say that I have played you fer the Fool you are multiple times over the years, at a guess we have had about a dozen bets ?? Of those dozen bets you have won One, just the One it was something like E20 against Ireland +40 points @ 7/1 in some rugby match ??
Apart from that One, I have beaten you every time, even Walking you up the Garden path on many occasions, I try to behave myself and not take your money, but you make it too easy fer me.
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........ Dont fuck with me you pathetic fuckwit Ill put you on the end of a rope . ......
Is that a personal threat against me John m ?? ::fds
So now you take the Doob Council Scum route of making personal threats against me when you cannot back up your argument, that is Shameful John m !
Let's take our last bet, You said Enoch Burke would not be released before Christmas, I dissageeed, I even offered you Odds on you being Wrong which you accepted. The Dogs on the street knew the judicary had seen enough of Enoch and wanted him out fer Chrimbo.
Fer once I managed to contain myself and take pity on you over this issue because I would have loved to have gone further and requested odds on the exact day and time Enoch would be released, it would have been fer the Friday afternoon, the same day that Wilsons Hospital school broke up fer Chrimbo, because if they released him any earlier he would have continued his 'Sit-In' at the school, and that was the last chance the court had to release the Prick before Chrimbo.
But you saw none of what I saw, you had your 'Anti-Transgenger' Rose-Tinted glasses on AGAIN and did not see the real picture at all.
P.S. If you want to come at me, then by all means bring it on, leave my family out of it, and try to keep the Filthy Doob Council Scum language to a minimum.
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Belker why would you come on a forum talking about coucul scum when 99% of Irish taxi drivers in Ireland are living in or originally from council areas.Are you off your meds or something?
Maybe you're too fond of the oul liquid courage.I doubt anyone on here logs on for a row.
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Belker why would you come on a forum talking about coucul scum when 99% of Irish taxi drivers in Ireland are living in or originally from council areas.Are you off your meds or something?
Maybe you're too fond of the oul liquid courage.I doubt anyone on here logs on for a row.
I didn't come on fer a Row, I stated Facts, John m got the 'Hump' over those Facts !
Previousely John m has expressed that he is Not Doob Council Scum, his comments above would state otherwise ??
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You're clearly trying to annoy people Belker.As you get older you're supposed to get wiser.
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Probably gargle involved all round. FFS lads, it's only a bit of banter... shouldn't be taken seriously.
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I'd say the only reason Ermy hasn't gone to Cork to sort Ken out is lack of charge on his EV battery.By the time it's finished fully charging he'd likley have calmed down a bit..
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Maybe they could meet in Cashel... at the garage with the charger?
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Straw pole result ---Geldof would get a nomination if he tried --
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Straw pole result ---Geldof would get a nomination if he tried --
"Give me the fuckin' job", and they worried about Mickey D playing the presidential game.
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I'd vote for Sir Bob. I was disappointed to miss his Swords Castle gig in the summer, sold out would you believe. Possibly a blessing in disguise, standing up for hours on end is a bit uncivilised at this stage of life.
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The silicone chip inside her head got switched to overload.... possibly the best lyric of all time given when it was written... pure genius!
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Probably gargle involved all round. FFS lads, it's only a bit of banter... shouldn't be taken seriously.
I think your on the ball there Stephen, I know that John m has huge respect fer me, twice in the past he has very generously offered assistance to my son when he was on his travels, assistance meaning offering to put him and the South Douglas Warriors up overnight in his own home, and another time offering to drive him from Doob to Portlaois if he missed his connecting bus. Both were serious offers ..... Like no one else does that fer anyone anymore !
Quite honestly if John m rang me today and said; "Me daughter needs to go where-ever tomorrow, can you cover it ?", there would be no question in my mind, I would be on that job in a flash and expect no payment such is the respect I have fer John m.
I'm sure that both yourself and Octy can confirm that when John m stated; "Get a Gun !", then it was I that got him that Gun !!
lol
So why we are now at War is not good fer either of us, so I will extend the Olive branch to John m and apologize fer my aggressive posts in the hope that we can put this drunken debacle behind us and be friends again.
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The silicone chip inside her head got switched to overload.... possibly the best lyric of all time given when it was written... pure genius!
I have to agree there, unfortunaely school shooting in the US became very popular afterwards.
Thanks be to God, we have very strict laws on gun control in Éire or else we would all be brown bread before we even left school !
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The silicone chip inside her head got switched to overload.... possibly the best lyric of all time given when it was written... pure genius!
Mmm, not bad. Springstein liked Zimmy's, as do I.
Snap of a snare drum, then "Once upon a time you dressed so fine, threw the bums a dime in your prime, didn't you? People'd call, say, 'Beware doll, you're bound to fall,' you thought they were all kiddin' you".
But then if we think about it, I'm sure that there will be other favourites...... have a go at it, opening lines only. Can't wait to hear the Doc's choice.
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The eagles have many good ones also, many in "Lyin' Eyes"...
"City girls just seem to find out early
How to open doors with just a smile
A rich old man, and she won't have to worry
She'll dress up all in lace, go in style"
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The Ramones "Hey ho, let's go"
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"You drink your coffee and I sip my tea
And we're sitting here
Playing so cool
Thinking what will be, will be"
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...... Can't wait to hear the Doc's choice.
Most likely it will be; "'Ullo John! Gotta New Motor ?" lol
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We want to get to heaven but we're always digging holes - Christy Hennessy RIP.
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I grew up in a council scum house ken but i dont see meself as lesser or inferior .... mad as a fukin brush yes ... but inferior to nobody .... I rekon ide beat Prince Charles at connect 5 ...
I cud beat micheal d Higgins in a high jump competition... I cud out run Steven Hawkins if he was still alive ...ide beat the absolute shite out of Simon Harris an Leo at the same time an i can drink the luv o me life under the the table so there
lol
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Article is dated Sunday, 14/9/25
Presidential election looking increasingly like three-horse race (https://www.breakingnews.ie/explained/presidential-election-looking-increasingly-like-three-horse-race-1806896.html)
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Three-horse race for the Áras?
The presidential election is looking increasingly likely to be a three-horse race between Jim Gavin (Fianna Fáil), Heather Humphreys (Fine Gael) and Independent Catherine Connolly.
Sinn Féin is yet to declare a candidate, and despite positive polling party leader Mary Lou McDonald has ruled herself out. If the party does put a candidate forward, it will change the outlook, but Ms Connolly remains hopeful they will back her candidacy.
A host of unlikely candidates including Conor McGregor, Peter Casey and Dolores Cahill vying for council approval, this route remains improbable. Independent candidate Maria Steen has the backing of 10 Oireachtas members, but is still 10 short of a nomination.
Over one fifth of people say they would vote for Heather Humphreys to become president, according to the latest opinion poll. Some 22 per cent of 1,000 respondents in the Business Post/RED C poll gave their first preference to the Fine Gael candidate.
Former Dublin manager and Fianna Fáil hopeful Jim Gavin received 18 per cent of first preference votes, while Independent candidate Catherine Connolly received 17 per cent.
Humphreys 22%
Gavin 18%
Connolly 17%
And, surprize surprize, McGregor is out. (https://www.rte.ie/news/presidential-election/2025/0915/1533497-presidential-race-ireland/) He's quoted as saying it wasn't an easy decision but when you can't get a single council nomination, it kinda becomes an easy decision!
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He'd make a good far right leader, shame he can't get any nominations.
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That hasn't stopped many a far-right leader! Though usually they had charisma and the ability to motivate a crowd with words/rhetoric...
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That hasn't stopped many a far-right leader! Though usually they had charisma and the ability to motivate a crowd with words/rhetoric...
Sex offender outside The Chas Mahal:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOLMxB7jbst/?hl=en (https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOLMxB7jbst/?hl=en)
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She diodn't makle the final cut but this is gas!
Maria Steen says she used Hermes bag to 'expose hypocrisy of the left' (https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/maria-steen-says-she-used-hermes-bag-to-expose-hypocrisy-of-the-left-1811843.html)
After failing to get on the ballot, Ms Steen lashed out at what she called the "oppressive political consensus". However, some accused her of being out of touch herself as she was wearing an Hermes bag as she was interviewed outside Leinster House. The bags range in price from around €10,000 to €30,000.
Speaking about the fallout from her campaign in an interview with The Irish Times, Ms Steen said "the handbag was deliberate". She added: "I wanted to expose the hypocrisy of the left who don’t love the poor; they just hate the rich." Ms Steen said it was hypocritical for feminists to say they want more women in public life and then “criticise a woman who happens to have the wrong values for carrying the expensive handbag”. “Nobody would ever question a man about the price of his car or of his suit – or if he’s wearing an expensive watch – but a woman carries an expensive handbag, and that’s all the news."
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The other 2 will gang up on Connolly and get her eliminated? ::rant >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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I have a small interest in Connolly at big odds .But I dont think she can win .The lefties can muster about 34% of the vote so I think she will top the pole but the real issue is who finishes second FG will transfer about 90 % to FF but FF are conflicted they cannot stomach FF so might opt to just vote FF and not transfer to others Dont think Gavin has any real chance .FF voters know it should of been Berty Gaff Wont vote for him or even bother voting .My best guess Connolly V Humphries .The big issue is will Shinners bother coming out to vote ?
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She diodn't makle the final cut but this is gas!
Maria Steen says she used Hermes bag to 'expose hypocrisy of the left' (https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/maria-steen-says-she-used-hermes-bag-to-expose-hypocrisy-of-the-left-1811843.html)
After failing to get on the ballot, Ms Steen lashed out at what she called the "oppressive political consensus". However, some accused her of being out of touch herself as she was wearing an Hermes bag as she was interviewed outside Leinster House. The bags range in price from around €10,000 to €30,000.
Speaking about the fallout from her campaign in an interview with The Irish Times, Ms Steen said "the handbag was deliberate". She added: "I wanted to expose the hypocrisy of the left who don’t love the poor; they just hate the rich." Ms Steen said it was hypocritical for feminists to say they want more women in public life and then “criticise a woman who happens to have the wrong values for carrying the expensive handbag”. “Nobody would ever question a man about the price of his car or of his suit – or if he’s wearing an expensive watch – but a woman carries an expensive handbag, and that’s all the news."
She describes herself as a "Stay at home mother". Or as they say on Facebook "Full-time Mammy".
Mother to a "Full-time Mad Bastard" no doubt!! 8)
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Well that was quick! Fianna Fáil's Jim Gavin withdraws from Presidential Election (https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2025/1005/1536926-jim-gavin/). Truly, politics is a dirty game. "They" went back 16 years to find dirt on him...
There's the old saying, 'let those without sin cast the first stone.' I'm surprised the politicians have never done any digging on reporters. I'd say there's some very juicy stories there.
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He never had a chance .Since he got the Nomination the Pro Berty faction in FF and the Media were out to get him now what next for Mick Martin .?Will he be challenged as Leader of FF .? He was there to stop Berty not to win .
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Yeah, he never seemed sure-footed or confident in his public appearances. He had bad karma if nothing else. He denied any knowledge but a former Irish Aviation Authority man and a team member (?) flying a drone in a prohibited space... oops
Connolly's being hit already (team member with criminal conviction) so Humprheys must be shaking in her boots. What skeletons has she got? Unlike Gavin, I've seen her on telly saying she's 20 years in politics and she's a fighter. She talks the talk.
Imagine what politics will be like in 20 years when journalists will be able to go through your teenage years on Facebook and Instagram etc etc...
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I was told about 2 years ago Berty wanted the Gig and was asked if I might join a group for Dublin South Central to canvass and Poster .Berty had a Crew all set up .If you think back to the General Election .Berty was sent out to RTE to Sugar Coat the Possible Election of Gerry the Monk in case the Government needed his vote .Berty was given the Nod unofficially but Mick Martin hates him and pulled the rug from under him .Now tomorrows Budget and dont rule out a stalking horse (minor td ) challenging Martin for FF leadership to force a heavy hitter to stand . I wonder if the Government could fall ?If some independents who dont get what they want in the budget abandoning ship .We live in interesting times
I was not interested in Joining the Berty Brigade but there was a group who supported him .Im sure some of them were active in getting Gavin out .Now imagine if Gavin after withdrawing was to win it ?
WHAT A FUCKING MESS .
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Think about what could happen now .A vote for a Candidate who is no longer in the contest now becomes a NONE OF THE ABOVE vote .If Gavin gets elected and is not in the race then there has to be another Election .Will some Cunt with a Brain order new Ballot papers with just two names ?Can you legally pull out of an Election after the Closing Date .I know you can up to one week after the closing date in a General election .
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Just wrote to a Senator I know asking Can Gavin legally withdraw ? If his name remains on the Ballot and he is not a Candidate then the Loser will be on a Honda 50 straight over to the High Court to contest the Result .WHAT A FUCKING MESS .
VOTE GAVIN its a NONE OF THE ABOVE VOTE . rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl BERTY FOR PRESIDENT
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I was thinking about posters too. After the election, you have a couple of weeks to take them down or face fines. Does Gavin have a fortnight from NOW to take them down or can he wait until after the election? Imagine if he left them up and some people voted for him if the ballot papers didn't get updated! Court case afterwards?
Our politics are dirty but at least they are civilised dirty :P You mentioned in another thread that Trump had declared war on various people (who he has poorly defined). I've seen some commentary that if you follow his logic through, he's now bascially authorised 'his' military to shoot Americans on American soil if he considers them the enemy :o
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I was thinking about posters too. After the election, you have a couple of weeks to take them down or face fines. Does Gavin have a fortnight from NOW to take them down or can he wait until after the election? Imagine if he left them up and some people voted for him if the ballot papers didn't get updated! Court case afterwards?
Our politics are dirty but at least they are civilised dirty :P You mentioned in another thread that Trump had declared war on various people (who he has poorly defined). I've seen some commentary that if you follow his logic through, he's now bascially authorised 'his' military to shoot Americans on American soil if he considers them the enemy :o
Thats what the Brits did in Ulster British Soldiers shot British People in Britains part of Ireland .I think that might be the definition of Civil War when one part of the country fight against another .I wont say I told you so .But I did say Civil War in America ?
Trump can do what he likes as Congress is blocked witrh the shutdown .That bill will be voted on every doy to keep the list busy so no other business can be debated or voted on .
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RTE (Mícheál Lehane) analysis - Fianna Fáil in crisis as Jim Gavin exits presidential race (https://www.rte.ie/news/analysis-and-comment/2025/1006/1536984-presidential-election/)
Jim Gavin's departure from this election left many in Fianna Fáil stunned last night but tellingly the party leader said it was the correct decision.
It is a move though that will raise fundamental questions about Micheál Martin’s own judgement and his pursuit of a candidate shockingly ill-suited to this election race.
His highly controlled leadership style and top-down messaging will now come into focus as his colleagues try to make sense of the last 24 hours.
Plus, the likelihood of him leading the party after December 2027, when his time as Taoiseach is scheduled to conclude, has surely diminished too.
Fianna Fáil has effectively been plunged into crisis 24 hours before the Budget and some in Government believe they have strayed into unchartered territory.
<snip>
Either way, Jim Gavin’s name will remain on the ballot paper. A stark reminder of the perils of presidential ambition.
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Now Watty do you see the Point Im making .Is he legally out .If so why is his name on the Ballot . If I lost I would be straight to Court to challenge the result .Also the other point I make is .You can still vote for Gavin as a Protest Vote again making the Ballott contestable if he was to win .Does the Runner up get the Gig ? If his name is on the Ballott the Election may be declared Void .BERTY FOR PRESIDENT lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol .
The Big issue now is Mick Martin he is a used Condom totally Fucked .Could his government Fall ? If he is ant sort of Politician he will offer his resignation and hand over the Taoiseach Job to the new leader of FF .He shafted the young Gay lad from Castleknock Chambers .He appointed him as Director of Elections even though he has a Budget to prepare .Thats the real issue of Mismanagement not just picking Gavin .
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And yet again, SF could be criticised for not putting enough candidates into an election :-\
Though I've seen commentary that says SF made a clever move in supporting Connolly. Now, apparently, they've become the de facto leader of 'the left' and will wreck havoc in the Dail until the next election happens. Then they'll get their reward & become the Govt?
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They could keep the name on the ballot paper, and then just change the candidate:
GAVIN, JAMES. 8)
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The IRONY it was a Bank account what did it rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl Berty be buying loads of Pints of BASS tonight .Party in Fagans lol lol lol.
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The IRONY it was a Bank account what did it rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl Berty be buying loads of Pints of BASS tonight .Party in Fagans lol lol lol.
(https://i.postimg.cc/YCFkW4p9/GAV.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fVM64RSn)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/J4xDy2zy/BENT.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/T3Q44f2z/BENT-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bZDgGXtg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/QdSyyhx9/BENT-3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bZDgGXnp)
(https://i.postimg.cc/4xwSSsNx/BENT-4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/NK9DyhH3)
(https://i.postimg.cc/kgwppqXd/BENT-5.jpg) (https://postimages.org/) 8)
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They could keep the name on the ballot paper, and then just change the candidate:
GAVIN, JAMES. 8)
(https://i.postimg.cc/fyjKSfVs/JAMES.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Them proper weatherproof posters cost about 40-50 Euro a go,there is literally thousands of Gavin ones all around Dublin so can't image how many nationally..absolute fortune spent on them.
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I've seen bigger eyes on a potato!
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So the Smartarsed Taxi Driver got it Right .Jim Gavin cannot withdraw from the race .His Name WILL be on the Ballot Paper .Now what happens .If he wins it as a Protest Vote ? Can he take the Prize ? The runner up is a loser so cannot be given it .
This will end up in the High Court no matter what the result .Martin should be gone by Friday .Talk is he was warned about Gavin before he chose him .The Berty Faction are out to get him Darragh Calery did not come out to support Gavin he is 12/1 to be next FF leader .
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The Smart arsed taxi driver knew unlike any other Journalist or TD .The Voting started last week when the Postal votes were sent out .So in racing terms they were off and Running .Finnon Sheehan or Mick the Monkey From Cork didnt know that .Now watch as a Campaign to Spoil your vote by voting for Gavin Starts up . rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl Martin wanted to take out Berty but Committed Suicide .
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Powers paying out on Connolly----must have taken FA on race !
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‘I’d have to think about it’ – Catherine Connolly responds to question on whether she would employ convicted rapist in Áras (https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/presidential-election/id-have-to-think-about-it-catherine-connolly-responds-to-question-on-whether-she-would-employ-convicted-rapist-in-aras/a2022226817.html)
they might have paid out too soon. The Indo seems to be negative about her. In yesterday's story about her, the headline above reveals the bias but the topics were 'convicted gun possession', convicted rapist*', and finally a few paragraphs about Ireland's neutrality and the Triple Lock. The woman has ethics (or something) and the Indo doesn't like it!
* Most criminal justice systems including ours are about rehabilitation and not punishment. So if someone has been convicted and done their time, they should be allowed to continue their lives in relative peace - the Gardai can keep an eye on them.
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‘I’d have to think about it’ – Catherine Connolly responds to question on whether she would employ convicted rapist in Áras (https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/presidential-election/id-have-to-think-about-it-catherine-connolly-responds-to-question-on-whether-she-would-employ-convicted-rapist-in-aras/a2022226817.html)
they might have paid out too soon. The Indo seems to be negative about her. In yesterday's story about her, the headline above reveals the bias but the topics were 'convicted gun possession', convicted rapist*', and finally a few paragraphs about Ireland's neutrality and the Triple Lock. The woman has ethics (or something) and the Indo doesn't like it!
* Most criminal justice systems including ours are about rehabilitation and not punishment. So if someone has been convicted and done their time, they should be allowed to continue their lives in relative peace - the Gardai can keep an eye on them.
The Constitution says the President rubber stamps and shakes hands .Robinson and Little Mickey distorted the Office .Connolly would destroy our International reputation for doing fall .The Triple Lock is Bollox we have no Soldiers or Navy .We dont even have enough soldiers to guard the State From Within .Only reason we sent Peacekeepers is Nato pay 24/7 for troops who only work 40 hour weeks profit goes to Dep of Defence .
If Little Mickey was really concerned about Homelessness did he rent out his Gaff in Galway while he lived in Dublin .Did he take in any Student in his aras ?
Best President we didnt get was Berty .If Connolly Wins I win 18 euro .If she loses I lose 640 .as I backed Berty I also backed Connolly at big odds but cashed out some of that bet /
I think I might prefer to lose than Connolly to Win .
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After Round 1 and a bit of mud-slinging, Connolly is ahead on points (38 v 20) while 18% still haven't made up their minds.
Connolly well ahead in presidential race, poll suggests (https://www.rte.ie/news/presidential-election/2025/1016/1538828-presidential-election/)
Independent candidate Catherine Connolly has built up a significant lead over Heather Humphreys in the presidential election race, a new opinion poll suggests.
The Irish Times Ipsos B&A poll indicates that Ms Connolly is on 38% support with Ms Humphreys on 20%. Jim Gavin, who has withdrawn from the campaign, is on 5%.
The survey of 1,200 voters, taken from Sunday to Tuesday, places Ms Connolly as the clear front runner with just over a week to go to polling. There are still many people who have not made up their minds, with that figure standing at 18% in this poll, which has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.8%. Some 12% of those surveyed indicated that they will not vote while 6% intend to spoil their vote.
This poll also suggests that any second preference votes from Mr Gavin, whose name remains on the ballot paper, will split fairly evenly between Ms Connolly and Ms Humphreys.
The public votes in chancers and cute hoors for the Dail but imho the public see the President a bit different. Connolly is saying stuff that's probably mad in the 'real world'/real politic but it goes down well with the public.
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And coming up on the rear is... Paul Murphy suing Heather Humphreys for defamation (https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2025/1016/1538890-paul-murphy-heather-humphreys/)
People Before Profit TD Paul Murphy has begun defamation proceedings against Fine Gael presidential candidate Heather Humphreys.
The proceedings lodged by Mr Murphy yesterday, relate to comments made by Ms Humphreys in a debate on RTÉ Radio One's This Week programme last Sunday.
Mr Murphy had sent a solicitor’s letter to Ms Humphreys arising out of her remarks relating to Mr Murphy’s role in an anti-water charges protest in Jobstown in Tallaght in November 2014.
Mr Murphy was one of six men charged with the false imprisonment of the then tánaiste Joan Burton and her assistant Karen O’Connell in their car on 15 November 2014.
All six were acquitted of the charges by a jury at Dublin Circuit Criminal Court in 2017.
Mr Murphy said he had no comment to make on the lodgement of the defamation proceedings for now.
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it would of been a Walk Over for Bertie .
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it would of been a Walk Over for Bertie .
Yes, you should never underestimate the stupidity of the electorate?
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The radio says Bertie is supporting Humphreys now that FF Jim Gavin is gone. Will that make her happy or sad :P
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The radio says Bertie is supporting Humphreys now that FF Jim Gavin is gone. Will that make her happy or sad :P
He's a waffler.
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Would it be true to say that the public like a leftie in the Aras, but only as a conscience without power?
I'll vote for Connolly as the better option of the two, but would disagree with her on some issues. Can't bring myself to warm to her personally yet, like I did to Red Robbo, or Mickey D, or even Mary Mac Aleese as to when she took on the church, when children's sexuality issue came to her house
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Still believe that Big Wigs in FG will come out fighting next week --at least to save embarrassment
of Harris--nearly 1/6 on Betfair --I see her a 1/2 chance on Thursday --standing her for a good few quid at moment 2/7 and Ill bail out when she drifts --live in hope so !
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Round 2 begins with the (right wing?) Irish Times reporting, with photos!, Catherine Connolly met militia leader behind war crimes in Syria, photos show (https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2025/10/17/catherine-connolly-met-militia-leader-behind-war-crimes-against-palestinians-in-syria-photos-show/). And, just in case you didn't get it the first time, Who is the pro-Assad militia leader Catherine Connolly was pictured with in Syria? (https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2025/10/17/who-is-saed-abd-al-aal-the-pro-assad-militia-leader-who-catherine-connolly-met-in-syria/) Both stories are paywalled...
She was with a TD and 2 MEPs on the trip.
They're throwing mud and hoping something sticks!
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Round 2 begins with the (right wing?) Irish Times reporting, with photos!, Catherine Connolly met militia leader behind war crimes in Syria, photos show (https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2025/10/17/catherine-connolly-met-militia-leader-behind-war-crimes-against-palestinians-in-syria-photos-show/). And, just in case you didn't get it the first time, Who is the pro-Assad militia leader Catherine Connolly was pictured with in Syria? (https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2025/10/17/who-is-saed-abd-al-aal-the-pro-assad-militia-leader-who-catherine-connolly-met-in-syria/) Both stories are paywalled...
She was with a TD and 2 MEPs on the trip.
They're throwing mud and hoping something sticks!
Courtesty of that sleeveen Yates.
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Do we really want a Protestant President?
Vote Connolly! 8)
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Humphreys' team are rolling out the big guns! ‘I wouldn’t run for the Áras — why would you put yourself forward for that abuse?’ says Daniel O’Donnell as he reveals who has his vote (https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/presidential-election/i-wouldnt-run-for-the-aras-why-would-you-put-yourself-forward-for-that-abuse-says-daniel-odonnell-as-he-reveals-who-has-his-vote/a1821856748.html) (Indo, paywall)
Singer Daniel O’Donnell says he will be voting for Heather Humphreys on Friday next, but laments that the presidential race does not offer a greater choice to the electorate. O’Donnell also said that he would have been “happy” to see the race cancelled after Fianna Fáil candidate Jim Gavin withdrew from campaigning.
“I’ll be voting for Heather Humphreys, yes, probably,” he told the Sunday Independent, speaking from his home in Kincasslagh, Co Donegal, yesterday. “I don’t know anything personally about either of them — but I suppose I just feel that Heather represents more of what I think.
Faint praise indeed but I guess Humphreys will take any at this stage...
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Are_Little_Boys_Made_Of%3F (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Are_Little_Boys_Made_Of%3F)
What are little girls made of?
What are little girls made of?
Sugar and spice
And everything nice [or "all things nice"]
That's what little girls are made of
Comments by Humphreys a 'new low', says Connolly (https://www.rte.ie/news/presidential-election/2025/1019/1539387-presidential-election-campaign/)
The independent presidential candidate Catherine Connolly has described as "a new low" comments by her Fine Gael opponent for the role, Heather Humphreys in a newspaper interview, that she had tried to make money out of people's misfortune by representing banks in home repossession cases during the property crash.
What did Heather Humphreys do for Shane O'Farrell's family? (https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2025/1018/1539237-what-did-heather-humphreys-do-for-shane-ofarrells-family/)
One of the key questions put to Fine Gael presidential candidate Heather Humphreys throughout her campaign has been about the level of support she offered to the family of hit-and-run victim Shane O'Farrell in their years-long bid for justice.
::fight ::fight ::fight ::fight ::fight
Might be time to put them in a ring and let them fight it out MMA-style!
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In the unlikely event that Jim wins he'd have to refuse the seal of office to instigate another election, erm. There's nothing in law requiring anyone who's democratically elected to refuse the seal of office.
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In the unlikely event that Jim wins he'd have to refuse the seal of office to instigate another election, erm. There's nothing in law requiring anyone who's democratically elected to refuse the seal of office.
He is a Man of HUGE PROVEN INTEGRITY or so we are led to believe ?
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Only spoken with a couple of men who claimed to know him personally. Neither held him in particularly high regard.... both working class northsiders though.
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Are you Gavin' a laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w1y-kMPNcM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w1y-kMPNcM) 8)
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Karma ..on the Day he should of become President ...1st 4. LORD BERTIE (FR) 9/2 jf
2nd Harrison Shawsilk 6. STATION X 13/2
3rd C. Horgansilk 1. ABERAMA GOLD 9/2 jf
All 14 ran.
J: Mark Winn
T: David O'Meara
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