Irish Presidential Bet

[John m]

Just wrote to a Senator I know asking  Can Gavin legally withdraw ? If his name remains on the Ballot and he is not a Candidate then the Loser will be on a Honda 50 straight over to the High Court to contest the Result .WHAT A FUCKING MESS .

VOTE GAVIN its a NONE OF THE ABOVE VOTE .   BERTY FOR PRESIDENT

[watty]

I was thinking about posters too.  After the election, you have a couple of weeks to take them down or face fines.   Does Gavin have a fortnight from NOW to take them down or can he wait until after the election?  Imagine if he left them up and some people voted for him if the ballot papers didn't get updated!  Court case afterwards?

Our politics are dirty but at least they are civilised dirty    You mentioned in another thread that Trump had declared war on various people (who he has poorly defined).  I've seen some commentary that if you follow his logic through, he's now bascially authorised 'his' military to shoot Americans on American soil if he considers them the enemy 

[John m]

I was thinking about posters too.  After the election, you have a couple of weeks to take them down or face fines.   Does Gavin have a fortnight from NOW to take them down or can he wait until after the election?  Imagine if he left them up and some people voted for him if the ballot papers didn't get updated!  Court case afterwards?

Our politics are dirty but at least they are civilised dirty    You mentioned in another thread that Trump had declared war on various people (who he has poorly defined).  I've seen some commentary that if you follow his logic through, he's now bascially authorised 'his' military to shoot Americans on American soil if he considers them the enemy 

Thats what the Brits did in Ulster British Soldiers shot British People in Britains part of Ireland .I think that might be the definition of Civil War when one part of the country fight against another .I wont say I told you so .But I did say Civil War in America ?

Trump can do what he likes as Congress is blocked witrh the shutdown .That bill will be voted on every doy to keep the list busy so no other business can be debated or voted on .

[watty]

RTE (Mícheál Lehane) analysis - Fianna Fáil in crisis as Jim Gavin exits presidential race

Jim Gavin's departure from this election left many in Fianna Fáil stunned last night but tellingly the party leader said it was the correct decision.

It is a move though that will raise fundamental questions about Micheál Martin’s own judgement and his pursuit of a candidate shockingly ill-suited to this election race.

His highly controlled leadership style and top-down messaging will now come into focus as his colleagues try to make sense of the last 24 hours.

Plus, the likelihood of him leading the party after December 2027, when his time as Taoiseach is scheduled to conclude, has surely diminished too.

Fianna Fáil has effectively been plunged into crisis 24 hours before the Budget and some in Government believe they have strayed into unchartered territory.

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Either way, Jim Gavin’s name will remain on the ballot paper. A stark reminder of the perils of presidential ambition.

[John m]

Now Watty do you see the Point Im making .Is he legally out .If so why is his name on the Ballot . If I lost I would be straight to Court to challenge the result .Also the other point I make is .You can still vote for Gavin as a Protest Vote again making the Ballott contestable if he was to win .Does the Runner up get the Gig ? If his name is on the Ballott the Election may be declared Void .BERTY FOR PRESIDENT  .

The Big issue now is Mick Martin he is a used Condom totally Fucked .Could his government Fall ? If he is ant sort of Politician he will offer his resignation and hand over the Taoiseach Job to the new leader of FF .He shafted the young Gay lad from Castleknock Chambers .He appointed him  as Director of Elections even though he has a Budget to prepare .Thats the real issue of Mismanagement not just picking Gavin .

[watty]

And yet again, SF could be criticised for not putting enough candidates into an election 

Though I've seen commentary that says SF made a clever move in supporting Connolly.  Now, apparently, they've become the de facto leader of 'the left' and will wreck havoc in the Dail until the next election happens.  Then they'll get their reward & become the Govt?

[silverbullet]

They could keep the name on the ballot paper, and then just change the candidate:

GAVIN, JAMES.

[John m]

The IRONY it was a Bank account what did it  Berty be buying loads of Pints of BASS tonight .Party in Fagans  .

[silverbullet]

The IRONY it was a Bank account what did it  Berty be buying loads of Pints of BASS tonight .Party in Fagans  .

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They could keep the name on the ballot paper, and then just change the candidate:

GAVIN, JAMES.

[markmiwurdz]

Them proper weatherproof posters cost about 40-50 Euro a go,there is literally thousands of Gavin ones all around Dublin so can't image how many nationally..absolute fortune spent on them.

[silverbullet]

I've seen bigger eyes on a potato!

[John m]

So the Smartarsed Taxi Driver got it Right .Jim Gavin cannot withdraw from the race .His Name WILL be on the Ballot Paper .Now what happens .If he wins it as a Protest Vote ? Can he take the Prize ? The runner up is a loser so cannot be given it .

 This will end up in the High Court no matter what the result .Martin should be gone by Friday .Talk is he was warned about Gavin before he chose him .The Berty Faction are out to get him Darragh Calery did not come out to support Gavin he is 12/1 to be next FF leader .