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Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: Belker on September 22, 2024, 10:11:00 am
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In trying to piece together the new expected 9% "Weighted" rise in taxi fares 2024.
(This is what I have managed to come up with, which may or may not be fully correct ??).
Tariff 1 start up rises from 4.20 to 4.60,
The basic running rate rises from 1.30 per km up to 1.32,
After 23.80 is on the meter the rate rises to 1.72 per km, up from the previous 1.65,
Booking fee rises from 2.00 to 3.00.
Tariff 2 start up rises from 4.80 to 5.40,
The basic running rate rises from 1.71 per km up to 1.81,
After 32.00 is on the meter the rate rises to 2.20 per km, up from the previous 2.00,
Booking fee rises from 2.00 to 3.00.
Tariff 3 Weekend rate will seemingly be starting at 5.40, up from 4.80,
and the running rate will be 2.20 per km, up from the previous Chrimbo Tarrif 3 rate of 2.00 per km.
Of what I posted above last July from the original NTA proposal is that the only difference in the final draft is that the Tariff 1 starting rate was dropped to 4.40 from the proposed 4.60, everything else seems exactly as per the NTA July proposals.
I'll do the percentages another day soon, but they will be in favour of the Night workers and especially heavily in favour of the Weekend Night workers.
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After My best reading of the new NTA fare increases, below are My math percentages, which are open to correction.
Tariff 1;
The old basic day time rate was €1.30 per km and increased by .02c to €1.32, that is a 1.53% increase in the day time driving rate.
The old day time initial/starting charge was €4.20 and increased by .20c to €4.40, that is a 4.76% increase.
Tariff 2;
The old basic night time rate was €1.71 per km and increased by .10c to €1.81, that is a 5.85% increase in the night time driving rate.
The old night time initial/starting charge was €4.80 and increased by .60c to €5.40, that is a 12.50% increase.
Tariff 3;
The all new Weekend rate was the old Tariff 2 at €1.71 per km and is now increased by .49c to €2.20 per km, that is a 28.65% increase.
The all new Weekend rate was €4.80 per km and increased by .60c to €5.40, that is a 12.50% increase.
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To hazard My own semi-educated 'Wild Guess' at the 2024 increases, because it is not exactly calculable as no fare goes the same distance;
Tariff 1 got a 2.5% increase.
Tariff 2 got a 6.5% increase.
All New Weekend Tariff 3 got a 21% increase from the former Tariff 2.
2.5% + 6.5% + 21% = 30%, Divide by 3 = 10% (or 9-11%) overall increase.
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At least they increased PUC... better late than never.
I wonder how much Free Now will increase freight by:
20% to 18%.
40% to 21%
60% to 24%
80% to 27%
100% to 30%
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I posted already but the €4 extras on short jobs will be a significant premium on app vs street hailing.I wonder will the budget conscious passengers finally push back and walk to the street/rank again.
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I posted already but the €4 extras on short jobs will be a significant premium on app vs street hailing.I wonder will the budget conscious passengers finally push back and walk to the street/rank again.
They will if we tell them !
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Good point John.
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Sign TO hire this taxi with an App costs you 3 euro to stick your hand out you pay ZERO extra .BUT we might be cutting off our nose to spite our face .How many jobs will have 3 euro plus Ransome ?Weekend drivers would be out of their minds to cover App Work .
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At least they increased PUC... better late than never.
I wonder how much Free Now will increase freight by:
20% to 18%.
40% to 21%
60% to 24%
80% to 27%
100% to 30%
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Didn't fn increase their freight immediately after the last fare increase? Does this mean an increase is on the way? I think it's absolutely nuts that they can charge what they like and they're not reigned in or held to account. I don't work them anymore and I understand some drivers have to work them but surely there should be a limit as to what they can charge. Crazy altogether.
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Sign TO hire this taxi with an App costs you 3 euro to stick your hand out you pay ZERO extra .BUT we might be cutting off our nose to spite our face .How many jobs will have 3 euro plus Ransome ? .......
It will be €4 extra John m, not €3, as the 2 main App players both charge a €1 technology fee and the PUC goes up to €3.
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..... Weekend drivers would be out of their minds to cover App Work .
I'm not so sure about that, much as some have said they will not return to nights I still think the Taxi street market will be flooded during the 'Golden 8' and with a €3 PUC it might be as handy to work the Apps as opposed to the streets, the reasoning being that the streets will be flooded with taxis and in today's world the majority of street fares pay by card anyway.
It will be yet another learning curve fer us come December 1st.
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Sweet lord, €5.40 a kilometre is high..
€32.60 - €43.00 - depending on traffic....Dublin Airport to O'Connell Street Upper, on the weekend.
Extras included: Pre-booking (extra €2 fee applies)
Please note: the above fare is an indicative estimate only and should not be taken as a guaranteed fare.
Distance: 14.92km
No traffic: 25 minutes
Heavy traffic: 46 minutes
Above distances and times are approximates only.
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Good result for the limos that will now not look so expensive during these hours.
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Exactly
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Sweet lord, €5.40 a kilometre is high.. .....
The new Night time Starting rate will be €5.40, the new Weekend 'Golden 8' running rate will be €2.20 a kilometer.
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Sweet lord, €5.40 a kilometre is high.. .....
The new Night time Starting rate will be €5.40, the new Weekend 'Golden 8' running rate will be €2.20 a kilometer.
The passengers will be saying "€7.40 before I go anywhere?" Reply "If you don't want to go anywhere it's free". 8)
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8.40----3 quid new p/u charge
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8.40----3 quid new p/u charge
I think I'll upgrade to the ID7. 8)
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You mean downgrade lol
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You mean downgrade lol
Harsh
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You mean downgrade lol
From my VW Bridie-4?
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8.40----3 quid new p/u charge
Add on €1 Technology fee + 3 additional pax and it's €11.40 before the cab even moves.
A FN Pre-booked or Priority taxi will add an extra €2 at least to make the starting rate €13.40.
The Pax ain't gonna be too happy !!
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https://www.nsai.ie/about/news/taximeter-program-update-from-the-national-transport-authority/ (https://www.nsai.ie/about/news/taximeter-program-update-from-the-national-transport-authority/)
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https://www.nsai.ie/about/news/taximeter-program-update-from-the-national-transport-authority/ (https://www.nsai.ie/about/news/taximeter-program-update-from-the-national-transport-authority/)
I have the Alberen mirror meter, which I only sealed in June. How much are the installers charging for the new programme?
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Don't know, €120?. Mine is a Primus mirror meter.
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https://www.nsai.ie/about/news/taximeter-program-update-from-the-national-transport-authority/ (https://www.nsai.ie/about/news/taximeter-program-update-from-the-national-transport-authority/)
I have the Alberen mirror meter, which I only sealed in June. How much are the installers charging for the new programme?
How much have you got? There won't be any 15% discount, you can be sure of that!
Don't know, €120?. Mine is a Primus mirror meter.
I've an ATA Primus mirror meter as well. I can't remember what it was the last time but I have a memory it seemed more expensive that what the other meter brands charged. Fecking French >:D
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Digitax dont have an agreed IT on F3 yet--spoke to Paul yesterday !
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Charged 147 in Skan for the upgrade
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Charged 147 in Skan for the upgrade
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Also known as a maximum
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And cash only
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Still no Semitron available yet. ::fuck ::fuck
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Only 2 weeks or 10 Working days till Dec 1st Kick-Off !
They would want to be getting the Finger out !! ::fds
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Only 2 weeks or 10 Working days till Dec 1st Kick-Off !
They would want to be getting the Finger out !! ::fds
Are you Semitron as well?
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Only 2 weeks or 10 Working days till Dec 1st Kick-Off !
They would want to be getting the Finger out !! ::fds
Are you Semitron as well?
No. Hale Microtax, awaiting update news ........
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Only 2 weeks or 10 Working days till Dec 1st Kick-Off !
They would want to be getting the Finger out !! ::fds
Are you Semitron as well?
No. Hale Microtax, awaiting update news ........
How much did you pay last time to get it programmed?
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Only 2 weeks or 10 Working days till Dec 1st Kick-Off !
They would want to be getting the Finger out !! ::fds
Are you Semitron as well?
No. Hale Microtax, awaiting update news ........
How much did you pay last time to get it programmed?
I think it was about €80 or €90 in 2022 ??
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Only 2 weeks or 10 Working days till Dec 1st Kick-Off !
They would want to be getting the Finger out !! ::fds
Are you Semitron as well?
No. Hale Microtax, awaiting update news ........
How much did you pay last time to get it programmed?
I think it was about €80 or €90 in 2022 ??
I paid 120 euro the last time, time before that was 80 euro. total rip off for 10 minutes work.
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Semitron available
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There's an amazing level of trust from NTA when you think of it. The same people that enter in the meter programme updates, also rent out thousands of taxis between them.
I wonder do they charge themselves €120/€150 per unit?
Answers on a postcard to Revenue.ie 8)
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Semitron available
::cheers
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There's an amazing level of trust from NTA when you think of it. The same people that enter in the meter programme updates, also rent out thousands of taxis between them.
I wonder do they charge themselves €120/€150 per unit?
Answers on a postcard to Revenue.ie 8)
Requiring them to submit the program for approval demonstrates a lack of trust, if anything. Given that my installer has a criminal record for theft that doesn't seem wholly unreasonable.
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There's an amazing level of trust from NTA when you think of it. The same people that enter in the meter programme updates, also rent out thousands of taxis between them.
I wonder do they charge themselves €120/€150 per unit?
Answers on a postcard to Revenue.ie 8)
Requiring them to submit the program for approval demonstrates a lack of trust, if anything. Given that my installer has a criminal record for theft that doesn't seem wholly unreasonable.
Have you heard who has the contract for verifying the meters on behalf of the government? All a bit hush-hush.
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Who
I got mine sealed yesterday at nct center
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Who
I got mine sealed yesterday at nct center
Wasn't a crowd up on Greenhills Road, near the NCTS centre that did it?
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Same building as nct
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Jaysus sealed already..I wad driving around for over a year with no seal and nobody said anything.
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Jaysus sealed already..I wad driving around for over a year with no seal and nobody said anything.
What meter MFH?
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Eh Hal When my Tetas meter started to lose some of the parts of the Numbers I never got it sealed after the last increase as I thought I was going to change it..then I pushed it out again when I thought I might be changing the car..So I realized I could keep deferring the sealing indefinitely.Could have been more than a year TBH.One of the lads in the suitability said it to me and he got a bit stroppy but it was honestly none of his business.
I have a semitron mirror now on the new yoke.I'll get it updated after chrimbo and sealed whenever I get around to it.As long as you have it booked in you can postpone it forever AFAIk.
I'm not ripping anyone off just can't be arsed queuing when I can add the extras on the current tarrifs.
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Same building as nct
The last time I checked into the NCTS centre for meter sealing I was referred to here:
Ballymount - Unit S1 Ballymount Ind. Est, Ballymount Drive, Dublin
From here:
Greenhills (Exit 11,M50)
Hibernian Industrial Estate,Greenhills Road
Dublin
D24 PX63
Perhaps they can accommodate the meter sealing in the NCTS building now.
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Who
I got mine sealed yesterday at nct center
I have my reseal date fer early December just in case they make a bollix of the reprogramming and it needs a Booster.
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New list updated 19/11/2024 on NSAI website.
I think that about covers all current taxi meters.
https://www.nsai.ie/about/news/taximeter-program-update-from-the-national-transport-authority/ (https://www.nsai.ie/about/news/taximeter-program-update-from-the-national-transport-authority/)
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Same building as nct
The last time I checked into the NCTS centre for meter sealing I was referred to here:
Ballymount - Unit S1 Ballymount Ind. Est, Ballymount Drive, Dublin
From here:
Greenhills (Exit 11,M50)
Hibernian Industrial Estate,Greenhills Road
Dublin
D24 PX63
Perhaps they can accommodate the meter sealing in the NCTS building now.
Ballymount gone
It's nct building
Park at back door
Puts machines on wheels and u go for drive up airton rd
Ya don't even leave the car in center
It's where suitability done too
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Same building as nct
The last time I checked into the NCTS centre for meter sealing I was referred to here:
Ballymount - Unit S1 Ballymount Ind. Est, Ballymount Drive, Dublin
From here:
Greenhills (Exit 11,M50)
Hibernian Industrial Estate,Greenhills Road
Dublin
D24 PX63
Perhaps they can accommodate the meter sealing in the NCTS building now.
Ballymount gone
It's nct building
Park at back door
Puts machines on wheels and u go for drive up airton rd
Ya don't even leave the car in center
It's where suitability done too
Like Merc, I deferred getting the meter sealed until I had to at the beginning of 2023. I was sent up to Ballymount from the NCTS centre.
When I put the Jammer nua on the road it was in the Ballymun NP2 IIRC.
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New list updated 19/11/2024 on NSAI website.
I think that about covers all current taxi meters.
https://www.nsai.ie/about/news/taximeter-program-update-from-the-national-transport-authority/ (https://www.nsai.ie/about/news/taximeter-program-update-from-the-national-transport-authority/)
Still waiting for Taxitronic to appear on the list.
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New list updated 19/11/2024 on NSAI website.
I think that about covers all current taxi meters.
[url]https://www.nsai.ie/about/news/taximeter-program-update-from-the-national-transport-authority/[/url] ([url]https://www.nsai.ie/about/news/taximeter-program-update-from-the-national-transport-authority/[/url])
Still waiting for Taxitronic to appear on the list.
Here ya go :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EcjWd-O4jI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EcjWd-O4jI) 8)
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New list updated 19/11/2024 on NSAI website.
I think that about covers all current taxi meters.
https://www.nsai.ie/about/news/taximeter-program-update-from-the-national-transport-authority/ (https://www.nsai.ie/about/news/taximeter-program-update-from-the-national-transport-authority/)
Still waiting for Taxitronic to appear on the list.
They are cutting it close fer you Hal, just 8 working days left till KO !!
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New list updated 19/11/2024 on NSAI website.
I think that about covers all current taxi meters.
https://www.nsai.ie/about/news/taximeter-program-update-from-the-national-transport-authority/ (https://www.nsai.ie/about/news/taximeter-program-update-from-the-national-transport-authority/)
Still waiting for Taxitronic to appear on the list.
They are cutting it close fer you Hal, just 8 working days left till KO !!
Ah shur Ken....what can ye do!!!
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New list updated 19/11/2024 on NSAI website.
I think that about covers all current taxi meters.
https://www.nsai.ie/about/news/taximeter-program-update-from-the-national-transport-authority/ (https://www.nsai.ie/about/news/taximeter-program-update-from-the-national-transport-authority/)
Still waiting for Taxitronic to appear on the list.
And ATA (Primus) meters. Fecking French are probably on strike >:D
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Most of us just doing app work.On the day shift the increase is only worth a tenner per 500..
We can still add the extra PUC.
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Most of us just doing app work.On the day shift the increase is only worth a tenner per 500..
We can still add the extra PUC.
Wats the new puk merc ?
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€3 octy
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I was up above in Dublin today so I dropped into Mechanic 24 @ c.15:19 to get my Hale Microtax 5 programmed. Not much of a queue, back out within 29 mins a ton and a half lighter. I reckon that's more than the meter cost back in 1999!
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... quickly followed by a threatening email from NSAI, as follows:
The taximeter in vehicle registration 161D30438 with SPSV 16872 has recently been repaired/altered/adjusted by Mechanic 24HR on the 20/11/2024 and now operates with Checksum Tariff 19504 as recorded in Legal Metrology Form TTI36744.
This taximeter is currently not legally compliant with the Metrology Act and associated regulations as the security seals are broken/removed.
To comply with the Metrology Act and associated regulations, this taximeter now requires immediate verification by Applus Car Testing Services Ltd., the approved NSAI Authorised Verifier for taximeters.
To arrange a verification of your taximeter please contact the NSAI Authorised Verifier, Applus Car Testing Services Ltd. at www.legalmetrology.ie (http://www.legalmetrology.ie) or by calling (01) 4135951.
Section 13 of the Metrology Act, 1996 states that it is an offence to operate an unverified taximeter for trade use and the Owner and/or Operator is liable to prosecution. If found guilty of this offence, your taximeter may be removed from trade use and you may be liable to a fine of up to €4000 or up to 12 months imprisonment, or both. Legal Metrology have successfully prosecuted Taxi Owners/Operators for this offence and intend to pursue all non-compliances detected to the full extent possible.
All supporting technical information related to your taximeter has been transferred electronically to the Authorised Verifier by Legal Metrology. A paper copy of the TTI form is no longer required to be presented to the Authorised Verifier by the taxi owner/operator.
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How come u have wicklow licence
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The Dublin taximeter area once extended into parts of Wicklow hence those who held Dublin licences were given Wicklow when the county based system was introduced.
By point of fact the DTA also extended into parts of Meath but I was refused a Meath licence when I asked for it in the Carriage Office with no explanation other than "you can have Wicklow" offered.
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... conversely, those who held Louth/Meath licences under the old system were all allowed Dublin if they wanted it... the explanation being that much of North County Dublin was in the Louth/Meath Garda district and was located outside of the Dublin taximeter area so drivers living/working those areas held Louth/Meath licences.
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The Dublin taximeter area once extended into parts of Wicklow hence those who held Dublin licences were given Wicklow when the county based system was introduced.
By point of fact the DTA also extended into parts of Meath but I was refused a Meath licence when I asked for it in the Carriage Office with no explanation other than "you can have Wicklow" offered.
That's right forgot that
I had it at one stage in 90s but lapsed and redid test in 07
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WW has served me well over the years and its 10 k away !
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New list updated 19/11/2024 on NSAI website.
I think that about covers all current taxi meters.
https://www.nsai.ie/about/news/taximeter-program-update-from-the-national-transport-authority/ (https://www.nsai.ie/about/news/taximeter-program-update-from-the-national-transport-authority/)
Still waiting for Taxitronic to appear on the list.
They are cutting it close fer you Hal, just 8 working days left till KO !!
Ah shur Ken....what can ye do!!!
Sure your in Lanzarote anyway !!
Hopefully they will have your Taxitronic on the list by the time you get home.
Happy Birthday too Auld fella !!
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... quickly followed by a threatening email from NSAI, as follows:
The taximeter in vehicle registration 161D30438 with SPSV 16872 has recently been repaired/altered/adjusted by Mechanic 24HR on the 20/11/2024 and now operates with Checksum Tariff 19504 as recorded in Legal Metrology Form TTI36744.
This taximeter is currently not legally compliant with the Metrology Act and associated regulations as the security seals are broken/removed.
To comply with the Metrology Act and associated regulations, this taximeter now requires immediate verification by Applus Car Testing Services Ltd., the approved NSAI Authorised Verifier for taximeters.
To arrange a verification of your taximeter please contact the NSAI Authorised Verifier, Applus Car Testing Services Ltd. at [url=http://www.legalmetrology.ie]www.legalmetrology.ie[/url] ([url]http://www.legalmetrology.ie[/url]) or by calling (01) 4135951.
Section 13 of the Metrology Act, 1996 states that it is an offence to operate an unverified taximeter for trade use and the Owner and/or Operator is liable to prosecution. If found guilty of this offence, your taximeter may be removed from trade use and you may be liable to a fine of up to €4000 or up to 12 months imprisonment, or both. Legal Metrology have successfully prosecuted Taxi Owners/Operators for this offence and intend to pursue all non-compliances detected to the full extent possible.
All supporting technical information related to your taximeter has been transferred electronically to the Authorised Verifier by Legal Metrology. A paper copy of the TTI form is no longer required to be presented to the Authorised Verifier by the taxi owner/operator.
That's a bit harshly put, especially as you are legal to drive as long as you have a reseal appointment.
I booked my reseal fer early December just in case they make a bollix of the reprogramming on Dec 1st and it needs a Booster.
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I thought it a tad strong myself, Ken. It makes no reference to being exempt from the relevant regulation on foot of being in possession of an appointment... maybe that's just a light-touch enforcement thing rather than a legal provision?
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Most of us just doing app work.On the day shift the increase is only worth a tenner per 500..
Before or after commission?
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Good point RC ,that's before commission.and not including the extra euro PUC.
But it was just a quick rough calculation for the day tariff.
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€240 to recoup (for me)... any back of envelope suggestion how long that'll take working c.20 hours/week?
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Just booked my sealing appointment for 5th Dec at the ungodly hour of 08:30 - which was the only available slot at Northpoint (Ballymun)... so I'll have to stay illegal 'till then, I guess.
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Just booked my sealing appointment for 5th Dec at the ungodly hour of 08:30 - which was the only available slot at Northpoint (Ballymun)... so I'll have to stay illegal 'till then, I guess.
Same date as myself, even if they make a Bollix of the reprogramming on 1st Dec then we can reschedule the reseal fer Free on Mon 2nd Dec.
But I booked my appointment (*as advised to all) a month ago fer the more convenient time of 3.15pm.
* The waiting list fer reseal appointments will be long after the meters are reprogrammed in November but you can book your reseal appointment today fer a date in December, Meter Seal 01 4135951
I booked mine in today fer Dec 5th, cost €90.41 and there were lots of dates and times to choose from.
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To hazard My own semi-educated 'Wild Guess' at the 2024 increases, because it is not exactly calculable as no 2 fare's go the same distance;
Tariff 1 got a 2.5% increase.
Tariff 2 got a 6.5% increase.
All New Weekend Tariff 3 got a 21% increase from the former Tariff 2.
2.5% + 6.5% + 21% = 30%, Divide by 3 = 10% (or as NTA stated 9-11%) overall increase.
On looking at my pretty close Guess-work of what the fare increase will mean to Day drivers, the €240 charge fer the meter change-over is gonna take a long time fer the Day drivers to recoup.
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Day drivers make it back on the PUC in a few weeks or more depending on how much they work apps.I'd say a lot of us are doing at least ten app jobs a day.Also some day drivers are out at 6am so they'll get the extra Tarrif 2 for a bit.
I'm fairly indifferent to this rise but I won't be getting the update until after Christmas.I will be adding the extra PUC euro on my current tariff when I get back from the holidays.
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Even if it takes a long time to recoup, it's a good idea because then the public get used to our prices going up when the cost of everything else is going up.
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I'm still undecided about the 'Golden Eight' next weekend, I wonder how the customers will take to a 25% rise in the usual fare home ??
I'm contemplating dodging the more lucrative street work during the 'Golden Eight' fer the first few weeks, and instead work App Account work only during those hours as no one 'On Account' cares about the cost .. till the next day.
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Same date as myself, even if they make a Bollix of the reprogramming on 1st Dec then we can reschedule the reseal fer Free on Mon 2nd Dec.
Remind me by SMS on the 1st if you think of it, Ken!
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Same date as myself, even if they make a Bollix of the reprogramming on 1st Dec then we can reschedule the reseal fer Free on Mon 2nd Dec.
Remind me by SMS on the 1st if you think of it, Ken!
OK, send me a reminder on the 30th Nov to remind you tomorrow ! lol
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Can you remind me tomorrow and I will.
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Anyone know if either the ATA S01 or RS01 is the Primus mirror meter. No reply from Noel Byrne as yet?
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Anyone know if either the ATA S01 or RS01 is the Primus mirror meter. No reply from Noel Byrne as yet?
Noel was doing meters yesterday outside Brennans Bakery not at his shed .
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Anyone know if either the ATA S01 or RS01 is the Primus mirror meter. No reply from Noel Byrne as yet?
Noel was doing meters yesterday outside Brennans Bakery not at his shed .
Sorry that's a "don't know"? Yes I heard that he is doing updates in Quality Motors Walkinstown/Greenhill?
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Got my Taxitronic TX80 done in Robinsons today...Charlie was saying with the new programme that when the current till roll finishes the meter will continue to operate...he said if for any reason the last receipt can be printed by pressing ++ on the meter.
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Anyone know if either the ATA S01 or RS01 is the Primus mirror meter. No reply from Noel Byrne as yet?
Yeah, the ATA agents have been very quiet.
ATA has been approved since 22 Nov (allegedly) --> https://www.nsai.ie/about/news/taximeter-program-update-from-the-national-transport-authority/ (https://www.nsai.ie/about/news/taximeter-program-update-from-the-national-transport-authority/)
Also, a week ago, booked my taxi (suspension bushes?) into Oscars Garage (off Tolka Valley Rd) for tomorrow and he said he'd update my ATA mirror meter at the same time. No mention of cost. Probably best to leave the bill until the last moment :'(
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Anyone know if either the ATA S01 or RS01 is the Primus mirror meter. No reply from Noel Byrne as yet?
Noel was doing meters yesterday outside Brennans Bakery not at his shed .
Sorry that's a "don't know"? Yes I heard that he is doing updates in Quality Motors Walkinstown/Greenhill?
My cuz got done for €150 in Quality Motors...literally.
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Anyone know if either the ATA S01 or RS01 is the Primus mirror meter. No reply from Noel Byrne as yet?
Yeah, the ATA agents have been very quiet.
ATA has been approved since 22 Nov (allegedly) --> https://www.nsai.ie/about/news/taximeter-program-update-from-the-national-transport-authority/ (https://www.nsai.ie/about/news/taximeter-program-update-from-the-national-transport-authority/)
Also, a week ago, booked my taxi (suspension bushes?) into Oscars Garage (off Tolka Valley Rd) for tomorrow and he said he'd update my ATA mirror meter at the same time. No mention of cost. Probably best to leave the bill until the last moment :'(
He's the Polish guy?
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Yeah, Christopher. They did a great job on my mirror meter when I got it a few years back.
He has certs on his wall now that he does EV servicing but I don't know how much he can do. So no more going back to Linders now (hopefully) yay
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Yeah, Christopher. They did a great job on my mirror meter when I got it a few years back.
He has certs on his wall now that he does EV servicing but I don't know how much he can do. So no more going back to Linders now (hopefully) yay
I dropped him to the port once. Sound guy, even gave me a business card. 8)
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It's a handy little spot. There's a tyre place beside him who does puncture repairs on a Sunday as well. Though you have to pull up at the gate and ring down to get let in.
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Yeah, Christopher. They did a great job on my mirror meter when I got it a few years back.
He has certs on his wall now that he does EV servicing but I don't know how much he can do. So no more going back to Linders now (hopefully) yay
Let's know watty if ye find out about his EV maintenance experience,I'd love to move away from MSL....I rang yesterday to book my 80k service(in January)...and she said "oh,that's a big service,I'll give you a price...€535"..or something ridiculous like that...and that doesn't include if it requires brake pads.
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Hal let me know what's included in that service.
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Let's know watty if ye find out about his EV maintenance experience,I'd love to move away from MSL....I rang yesterday to book my 80k service(in January)...and she said "oh,that's a big service,I'll give you a price...€535"..or something ridiculous like that...and that doesn't include if it requires brake pads.
I had something similar with Linders with the ~€500 quote. They change the coolant (or brake fluid) or something.
I'll probably still use Linders for an annual service to get an official battery SOH cert but for other stuff like suspension, brake pads etc, I'll go independent like Oscars. Having said that, Oscars have their own MG5 that they rent out as a taxi. So maybe they have the MG software and could issue me an official battery SOH cert as well? The main thing is choice - keeps them honest ::clap
Let's know watty if ye find out about his EV maintenance experience,I'd love to move away from MSL
I'm not sure how chatty he'll be this morning with all the meter updates etc going on. We'll see.
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Hal a few months ago I sent you the workshop manual for the BYD and I only really had a look at it now.
From what I've read there's nothing EV specific to any of the fluid changes.The method used in the factory manual is the same for all vehicles.
The coolant,brake fluid and gear oil l can be changed like a regular vehicle.The radiator coolant needs a small section of the subframe under the bumper unhlbolted but it's not impossible for a bloke with your experience.I'd say you'd probably get in there without taking the car apart.
Any mechanic that's worked on a few cars would have no problem doing the work if you didn't want to touch it yourself.The 40000km interval on the brake fluid seems excessive but I'm not an engineer.
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In the past 3-ish years, Linders have only made ~€500 off me so it's maybe no surprise they add 'a bit' on here and there to make a profit?
With my 15 yr old Skoda, I was nearly paying that every quarter to my Indie mechanic :o In facta, he told me one time that I paid the university fees for one of his children...*
(* He didn't! just kidding :P )
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It's still cheap considering how much time we spend in the cars.I like to look after me own when it suits me.This messing about leaving the car in for a whole day for two hours work drives me nuts.Back when I was a courier and a younger taxi driver I just made sure I could do most things so I wasnt depending on a mechanic with a busy calendar.If you broke down on the motorbike you could be walking it home.Having a basic understanding of the vehicle always pays off.
I'm getting lazier but sometimes I'd rather do the work myself and take a few days off with the money I saved.Some of the garages are charging well over €100 an hour labour when you calculate how long they're actually working on the vehicle.With some of the prices they're charging you'd think it was a Rolls Royce.
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Watty
"ll probably still use Linders for an annual service to get an official battery SOH cert but for other stuff like suspension, brake pads etc, I'll go independent like Oscars. Having said that, Oscars have their own MG5 that they rent out as a taxi. So maybe they have the MG software and could issue me an official battery SOH cert as well? The main thing is choice - keeps them honest ::clap"
The battery health is only really important if you're selling it or if you're making a warranty claim.After it's been a taxi the last battery state of charge report si all you will need.Most buyers will have their own mechanic who will test it before they buy it anyway.All battery health reports do is tell you if it's good or no good.They can't repair any degradation.
I don't think MG have any proprietary software.Any OBD reader should be able to tell you how your battery is doing.
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If I was buying, say, a 5 yr old EV, I'd rather see 5 annual certs going 100-98-96-94-92% rather than 1 cert that said 92% after 5 years. With the 5 certs, you'd be more inclined to think the owner looked after it and didn't flog the life out of it?
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Not necessarily Watty.Seeing the battery go from 98 to 96 to 94 to 92 to 90% is the same as just testing it in year 5 and getting 90%.
All the SOH test is telling you is it's usable capacity.Nobody would know if it's been rallied around everyday.Use the money towards your next vehicle.As soon as a buyer sees ex taxi they'll know you got the grant and start offering you well below market value.
I know the Teslas keep records of how many fast charges the car has recieved vs slow charges.I dunno if other vehicles can do this.Just drive it into the ground and consider a few fluid changes along the way.
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Hal a few months ago I sent you the workshop manual for the BYD and I only really had a look at it now.
From what I've read there's nothing EV specific to any of the fluid changes.The method used in the factory manual is the same for all vehicles.
The coolant,brake fluid and gear oil l can be changed like a regular vehicle.The radiator coolant needs a small section of the subframe under the bumper unhlbolted but it's not impossible for a bloke with your experience.I'd say you'd probably get in there without taking the car apart.
Any mechanic that's worked on a few cars would have no problem doing the work if you didn't want to touch it yourself.The 40000km interval on the brake fluid seems excessive but I'm not an engineer.
It'd be interesting to see the ID4 Service Manual - without the bullshit certain dealers add.
Brake fluid on normal VAGs is after 3 years and then every 2 years with no kilometreage limits.
Coolant on normal VAGs is never - although there may be an exception for Alaska - can't remember for certain and can't be arsed opening the manual now. In any event it is possible to test coolant strength before / rather than replacing it.
Gearbox oil on normal VAGs is never. In fact if you drain through the drain plug alone you're only draining c.52% of the oil anyway.
I think Toyota impose kilometreage limits on everything, even brake fluid which degrades over time not usage so the EV manufacturers are probably copying that approach... I guess they're struggling to find stuff to charge ewes for in any event!
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I know a driver with a 9 month old id4
On his third battery
Warranty coverd it but 3 batteries?6 months then 2 months then third one
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That's awful about the ID4...sounds like he bought a lemon.
About service costs and intervals I am of the belief that BYD put extra intervals in on some of the service stuff just to make themselves look attractive to MSL as an ongoing money maker.As far as I know Teslas don't require any maintenance during the first 100k.There's nothing special about Teslas as far as I know.
I could probably drive mine on the same fluids for 200k but the gamble is too big and there are no BYDs in the scrappers.
I'll likely just do the work myself when the time comes but with bigger mileage intervals.
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Sounds dodgy. Seems to me that the ID4 battery is only the end result of whatever is happening further inside the car. I'd be rejecting the car or going legal until somebody knowledgeable looked at the EV.
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Seen a few of those ID 4s with one headlight not working.
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Seen a few of those ID 4s with one headlight not working.
I posted that a while back Marky...seems to be the Daylight Running Light strip.
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id say the increase will cause problems where I work, tourists will be ok but some locals wont be happy.
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You never see the local Spar or publican apologise when they put up their prices so why should we? We didn't pick the increase out of thin air, some NTA committee reviewed the thing and gave us the percentage. It's totally legit and justified.
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You never see the local Spar or publican apologise when they put up their prices so why should we? We didn't pick the increase out of thin air, some NTA committee reviewed the thing and gave us the percentage. It's totally legit and justified.
Just do what politicians do....blame someone else!!
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You never see the local Spar or publican apologise when they put up their prices so why should we? We didn't pick the increase out of thin air, some NTA committee reviewed the thing and gave us the percentage. It's totally legit and justified.
Drunk people are not rational most of the time and like a fight.
Also most of the time they have got what they want before they have to pay, unlike the shop.
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You never see the local Spar or publican apologise when they put up their prices so why should we? We didn't pick the increase out of thin air, some NTA committee reviewed the thing and gave us the percentage. It's totally legit and justified.
Just do what politicians do....blame someone else!!
I remember being called a greedy cunt one new years eve night, the fare was 12 euro, it was usually 10 euro.
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You never see the local Spar or publican apologise when they put up their prices so why should we? We didn't pick the increase out of thin air, some NTA committee reviewed the thing and gave us the percentage. It's totally legit and justified.
Just do what politicians do....blame someone else!!
I remember being called a greedy cunt one new years eve night, the fare was 12 euro, it was usually 10 euro.
They didn't mind dropping a couple of ton in the bar though!! ::fds
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You never see the local Spar or publican apologise when they put up their prices so why should we? We didn't pick the increase out of thin air, some NTA committee reviewed the thing and gave us the percentage. It's totally legit and justified.
Just do what politicians do....blame someone else!!
I remember being called a greedy cunt one new years eve night, the fare was 12 euro, it was usually 10 euro.
They didn't mind dropping a couple of ton in the bar though!! ::fds
Exactly, that is why I tend to avoid nights, you get no thanks for it and its far worse than days.
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That's awful about the ID4...sounds like he bought a lemon.
About service costs and intervals I am of the belief that BYD put extra intervals in on some of the service stuff just to make themselves look attractive to MSL as an ongoing money maker.As far as I know Teslas don't require any maintenance during the first 100k.There's nothing special about Teslas as far as I know.
I could probably drive mine on the same fluids for 200k but the gamble is too big and there are no BYDs in the scrappers.
I'll likely just do the work myself when the time comes but with bigger mileage intervals.
He should have bought it here:
https://www.instagram.com/nolemonscarsltd/p/C2fKWzitRcm/?img_index=1 (https://www.instagram.com/nolemonscarsltd/p/C2fKWzitRcm/?img_index=1)