Irish Taxi Forum
Public Area => Taxi Talk => Topic started by: John m on June 18, 2025, 07:15:54 am
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Lad had his Taxi stolen Last Night in Clondalkin .Broke into house got keys .BLACK MG5 Reg 242D14465 plate 39765 .
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Bastards.I wonder are they be being stolen for parts or to do a job.They're all fast but you wouldn't be taking a chasse with 20% battery left.
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Bastards.I wonder are they be being stolen for parts or to do a job.They're all fast but you wouldn't be taking a chasse with 20% battery left.
He lives in the middle of an estate hard to access .I would think probably stolen to Order .New car probably going to be exported .I have heard a lot of Ukranians DRIVING Home .Might make sense to fit a tracker to your car .If they can find your phone they must be able to find your car .
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Ah ....the old they used a fishin rod tru the letter box an me keys wer hangin on the wall scam bollix ?
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If it's a new motor it's likely it might have a location thing built in.On my BYD you can see the location of the vehicle on your mobile app like Tesla but I'm sure they'd know how to disable it.
The shit part about owning these new yokes is the parts are valuable and hard to get.I know on some KIA/Hyundai there's a hack where they can get in to the vehicle and drive it away from the OBD diagnostics port.Loads of them disappearing never to be seen again in UK and US.
I set my house alarm every night even though I've nothing to rob.Car keys go into a biscuit tin.
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Thanks Merch that might be an idea contact Frank Keane see if the car can be tracked ?
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Lad had his Taxi stolen Last Night in Clondalkin .Broke into house got keys .BLACK MG5 Reg 242D14465 plate 39765 .
Shared on Taxi Industry Ireland
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Two youngfellas seen on camera .They were first seen about 1Am car taken @ 3.10 . Problem now is Do you need to replace an EV with an EV to prevent the Taxithingey looking for their Coin Back ?
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1. Using MG’s iSmart app (live‑tracking)
Later versions of the MG 5 EV (Mk 2) support the MG iSmart app, which lets you view your car’s live location via its built‑in 4G modem
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Owners on the MG EVs forum confirm: the “Find My Car” feature shows live location with detailed address info, and it updates whenever you request it
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However, the earlier MG 5 EV (Mk 1) does not have iSmart or GPS tracking built-in .
So: if you have a Mk 2 with factory iSmart connectivity, yes—you can track it using the app. If not, you’ll need aftermarket aftermarket.
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Yes John deffo worth contacting MG.These cars are basically tablets wheels.GPS and wifi on the new ones and maybe even a sim card like mine has.Everything can be tracked.Teslas can even be shut down remotely.
About the grant I'd say the NTA will be sympathetic but the conditions of the grant are it can only be replaced with a newer EV while the three years grant period is in place.I dunno how for sure though.
I'd say it will turn up.The new MG5s are fairly distinctive with the new lights.I can't see the scrotes signing up for a charging account with ESB.
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Thanks for the heads up Merch I downloaded the app .You need to have the Car to scan some barcode or something .He is still waiting on Keans to get back to him .
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That's beyond scumbag - stealing a car and putting a man out of work. Hopefully the cnuts will have an intimate meeting with an artic lorry on the N7 some night >:D
In a perverse way, it might be better if it's gone gone. Then the insurance company will have to give him some money for a replacement taxi and his downtime might not be too bad. The garages don't keep Chinese spare parts in stock so if it's recovered and repairable, it could be sitting in the garage for months (literally) and he's got no money in his pocket.
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Motor was recovered the next Day by the Garda so job well done .But owner not informed as the Gard dealing with the case was rostered off !Anyway it is recovered going to have a look at it tomorrow assess the damage if any ?
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Hope it all works out for your mate :2cheers It's kinda crazy that there's 12,000 Gardai and only 1 of those 12,000 can deal with that stolen car.
Something similar happened to me a few years back. Went into Clontarf Garda Station to report a non-payer. The Guard at the desk listened to my tale of woe and simply replied, I'm off-duty tomorrow. AKA you can fukk off if you think I'm going to do something >:D
Could be slightly different across the water. Recently watched a BBC2 reality TV programme about English police detectives called Murder 24/7. They had a big poster at their office door asking 'have you talked to the victims before going off duty?' Whether they did or not is another story but I guess it's the thought that counts.
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Great result.They may not have realised it was electric when they took the keys.Or maybe they just needed to get somewhere.Either way get a house alarm or start using the one you have.
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Great result.They may not have realised it was electric when they took the keys.Or maybe they just needed to get somewhere.Either way get a house alarm or start using the one you have.
House door lock changed .Now he needs to rechip the ignition and get replacement keys .See if House or Car Insurance will cover the Cost?
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Like Watty says sometimes it might be easier if it was found burned out.It will be interesting to see how long it takes to get the keys done from MG.
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Yeah, should be interesting. Heard a weird thing over on UK fan site https://www.mgevs.com/forums/mg5-ev-forum.5/ (https://www.mgevs.com/forums/mg5-ev-forum.5/) Several MG owners have ended up fighting with their garages for software updates etc. Apparently MG China keeps a tight control on access to the computer and software inside their cars. Garages (even official garages) have to book and pay for a time slot on the MG central computer in China. Then they download the software or whatever for one car only. If the link breaks, tough shit. Pay up and start again! Garages can't download the software and stick it on a USB stick. They have to pay for each individual car's access...
(Brave or Stupid) MG car owners can also register with a fake VAT number, pay up, and download software for their own MGs! Warning - this can obviously 'brick' your car completely if you get it wrong!
Hopefully getting new keys can be a local process O:-)
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New keys not the Problem .The cunt who stole the car has a Key they might come back .Dont know if you could fit an ignition isolation switch without fucking up the on board computer stuff ?
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Seems Strange why someone would break in to anothers house and steal the keys of a Fookin Lecky car and then abandon it somewhere were the Gardai could find it ??
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New keys not the Problem .The cunt who stole the car has a Key they might come back .Dont know if you could fit an ignition isolation switch without fucking up the on board computer stuff ?
The clever thieves now have a gadget that can steal the wireless code from the air. They stick the gadget through your letterbox and steal the unlock signals. And off they go. That's why some recommend sticking your keys in the microwave because it's shielded (doesn't emit signals).
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You can still get those big yellow steering locks as a temporary measure.I doubt they'd be back and likely threw the keys in the nearest bin.
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Seems Strange why someone would break in to anothers house and steal the keys of a Fookin Lecky car and then abandon it somewhere were the Gardai could find it ??
Little cunts doing all the cars along the road checking handles .They must of come into his garden to see if any money in the taxi .Two of them one must of checked his poarch door which was unlocked The house door is a split spindke which means you can open it if you can access the inside handle .They usually use a wire hanger to pull the handle down and open the door .keys were on the hall table .They parked it off about 5 miles away .They then try to sell the keys to another crew who want a motor for a stroke .TheGarda Reg recognition camera on board a Garda car recognised it and it was recovered .Dont know if its damaged collecting it from the Tow company today .
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Seems Strange why someone would break in to anothers house and steal the keys of a Fookin Lecky car and then abandon it somewhere were the Gardai could find it ??
Probably not related but there's a gang of teenagers in Dublin called the 'Lucky Dip' gang. They steal cars for fun and type in a rural town/village on Google Maps and off they go. Sometimes they go on a burglary rampage when they get there and sometimes they don't. But they stick their videos on Instagram to taunt the Gardai.
And they get bail when caught because Oberstown (teenage jail) is overcrowded. So there's no incentive for them to stop. They killed someone (hit and run) in Balbriggan but it hasn't stopped them.
Edit: They're called the 'Lucky Dip' gang - Key member of ‘Lucky Dip’ gang arrested over hit-and-run that killed pedestrian in north Dublin (https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/key-member-of-lucky-dip-gang-arrested-over-hit-and-run-that-killed-pedestrian-in-north-dublin/a1380782394.html)
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Who did they kill in Balbriggan, Watty? The linked article only mentions a similar incident in Baldoyle.
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Back on topic... fortunately this case worked out alright but be careful posting details of stolen subsidised taxis on the internet. I know NTA enforcers read the nonsense posted on here - probably primarily for entertainment - so I doubt it'd be too long before they'd knock on the victim's door looking for their €10,000 back in used notes had the car not been recovered.
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I wonder if anyone has been chased for some of the 20k back so far.I've seen EV taxis up for sale on Donedeal that were less than a year old recently.
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Rodent there would be an issue with the taxi thingey getting any money back .The 5K was open to all who went EV .They would need to return your car to you before they could claim the 10K scrappage .That was a Private treaty sale .The only recoverable monies might be the 5k Taxi Grant .
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As usual you couldn't be wronger, erm.
The €10k I refer to is completely separate and additional to the general €5k which is automatically deducted from retail prices by motor dealerships.
The other €10k "scrapage" would probably be reclaimed by NTA in addition to the aforementioned €10k but could be challenged in court as to restore the victim to his original position NTA would have to unscrap the scrapped vehicle and give it back, I guess.
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Who did they kill in Balbriggan, Watty? The linked article only mentions a similar incident in Baldoyle.
Soz, got my towns mixed up :-[
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Not like you... Thought I'd missed a funeral!
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Not like you... Thought I'd missed a funeral!
"A man in his 20s has died in a hit-and-run incident in Co Dublin.
The pedestrian was struck by a car on Railway Street in Balbriggan, at around 9pm last night."
https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2025/0624/1520013-balbriggan-dublin-rtc/ (https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2025/0624/1520013-balbriggan-dublin-rtc/)
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Not like you... Thought I'd missed a funeral!
"A man in his 20s has died in a hit-and-run incident in Co Dublin.
The pedestrian was struck by a car on Railway Street in Balbriggan, at around 9pm last night."
https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2025/0624/1520013-balbriggan-dublin-rtc/ (https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2025/0624/1520013-balbriggan-dublin-rtc/)
Thankfully none of your kin Stephen, I was worried when I read about it.
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Prophetic on Watty's part, I guess. It's barely a month since Gardai Flatley's funeral. RIP.
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New keys not the Problem .The cunt who stole the car has a Key they might come back .Dont know if you could fit an ignition isolation switch without fucking up the on board computer stuff ?
The clever thieves now have a gadget that can steal the wireless code from the air. They stick the gadget through your letterbox and steal the unlock signals. And off they go. That's why some recommend sticking your keys in the microwave because it's shielded (doesn't emit signals).
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Or:
https://www.amazon.ie/2024-Faraday-Key-Anti-Theft-Protector/dp/B0CTCL4TK1/ref=asc_df_B0CTCL4TK1?language=en_IE&mcid=c574c5783c043310882c7af003d4d401&tag=ieshopgode-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=743311035576&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=3669938263760125503&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9208130&hvtargid=pla-2292489690363&gad_source=1&th=1 (https://www.amazon.ie/2024-Faraday-Key-Anti-Theft-Protector/dp/B0CTCL4TK1/ref=asc_df_B0CTCL4TK1?language=en_IE&mcid=c574c5783c043310882c7af003d4d401&tag=ieshopgode-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=743311035576&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=3669938263760125503&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9208130&hvtargid=pla-2292489690363&gad_source=1&th=1)
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car recovered they ripped out the whole mirror unit took the meter and half the roof with them .Might take a while for replacemeny unit to come from China .They probably thought it was a camera .Not a lot of damage but probably expensive to fix .
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That's brutal.Hopefuoly his insurance will pay for a rental.
If he didn't have a house alarm already I'd say he's getting one now.Hopefully they come back with the keys and torch it for him.
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What lead time did they give?
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Still not making any sense to me why someone would break in to anothers house and steal the keys of a Fookin Lecky car and then abandon it 5km away, somewhere where the Gardai could easily find it ?
It makes No Sense to me ??
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Still not making any sense to me why someone would break in to anothers house and steal the keys of a Fookin Lecky car and then abandon it 5km away, somewhere where the Gardai could easily find it ?
It makes No Sense to me ??
Ken they rob 4 or 5 cars .Two possibly to go raid the Place they want to rob then they park off the other cars on approach roads so they can change motor .A taxi with 4 or 5 people in it would not look suspicious .
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Given the fares we charge these days I guess a taximan wearing a balaclava wouldn't look overly suspicious either!
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this special rate thing and the €3 on top is ballooning up fares. i've had a few cunts go for me already claiming i rinsed them and i can't disagree with them.
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this special rate thing and the €3 on top is ballooning up fares. i've had a few cunts go for me already claiming i rinsed them and i can't disagree with them.
If they don't like it, they could always go to Westmoreland St for the hourly nitelink (cash only, no cards) that'll drop them a half mile from their house, assuming they don't get assaulted before they get on the bus. A bespoke service costs money 8)
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this special rate thing and the €3 on top is ballooning up fares. i've had a few cunts go for me already claiming i rinsed them and i can't disagree with them.
If they don't like it, they could always go to Westmoreland St for the hourly nitelink (cash only, no cards) that'll drop them a half mile from their house, assuming they don't get assaulted before they get on the bus. A bespoke service costs money 8)
Try ringing Bus Eireann and ask them to send a bus just for you and see what they quote you... ::fds
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So MG ?the crowd in Ballymount they done the assessment charged 140 .They say could be a few weeks before they get the parts .BUTTTTTTTT they do NOT doInsurance Work so you need to pay up front and claim back off the Insurance .
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140 is a bargain.
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140 is a bargain.
So you need to go get an assessment upload the quite and pictures of the damage .They dont send out an Assessor ?
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€140 is hardly worth claiming on insurance... as an EV man a tyre would cost him more than that FFS.
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If it's really only 140 to fix it's probably just something they were going to clip or glue back together.All the new cars are usually assembled by push fittings at the assembly line for speed and lower labour costs.
His insurance might have an excess bigger than 140 anyway.Good result overall.
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If it's really only 140 to fix it's probably just something they were going to clip or glue back together.All the new cars are usually assembled by push fittings at the assembly line for speed and lower labour costs.
His insurance might have an excess bigger than 140 anyway.Good result overall.
140 for the estimate 4.5K worth of damage
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Ahhhhh ok.Just burn it out then.
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MG want the Money up front .They dont do Insurance Work .
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That's a different kettle of fish. Was it crashed?
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That's a different kettle of fish. Was it crashed?
NO it was stolen from the driveway of the house .Then internal damage they ripped out the forward facing camera and the internal lighting unit and mirror meter .So two units to be replaced ,possible new windscreen as the front facing camera /collision warning unit is glued to the windscreen .No external damage to vehicle .MG say they do not do crash repairs for insurance purposes so the driver will have to pony up front and TRY claim it back from insurance .So he is now waiting on Insurance to send out their assessor and direct him to THEIR preferred repairer .It seems that like Watty informed us spare parts are difficult to come by as there are no central distributors they need to be sourced direct from China .Probably find as they are made in China that spurious Parts and Genuine parts are exactly the same and come from the same source effectively meaning no cheaper Spurious parts are actually available .
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if you contact insurance to do repairs will they not use it as an excuse to balloon up what you'll pay going forward.
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if you contact insurance to do repairs will they not use it as an excuse to balloon up what you'll pay going forward.
That will happen anyway 4.5K to put it back on the Road you not paying that out of your own Purse .
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As usual you couldn't be wronger, erm!
Main stealers aren't so called without justification. VAG, for example, typically charge 3-4 times the prices charged by motor factors such as autodoc.ie for the same parts from the same manufacturer.
He's doing the right thing anyway. Get the estimate from the insurance company's approved repairer and take it from there. He can then let them repair it and they'll get paid directly or he can get the used notes and sort it out himself, most likely trousering a few notes (albeit notes they'll get back through "loading") into the bargain.
Armed with the estimate he's already bought from MG he could sit down with a computer and put the part numbers into a popular internet search engine to find out what alternative, perhaps quicker, suppliers are out there and/or shop for second hand parts ... To get him started here's a few links from a popular internet auction website and a breakers yard up above in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Norn Iron.
https://ebay.us/m/JtQMhb
https://ebay.us/m/N4xxvO
https://evbreakers.com/donor-parts?id=552
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if you contact insurance to do repairs will they not use it as an excuse to balloon up what you'll pay going forward.
That will happen anyway 4.5K to put it back on the Road you not paying that out of your own Purse .
You are in the medium term!
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If you clicked the first link I posted above you'll have noticed that the camera unit has a MG (SAIC) part number and a Bosch part number. I would hazard a guess that the same Bosch part minus the SAIC sticker could be purchased significantly cheaper than MG charge with their sticker applied.
Anyway, his issue is primarily time rather than money hence scrapyards including those on the mainland and up above in Norn Iron may well be his best option.
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Also, given that he's an EV man he may well subscribe to the tree hugging, sandal wearing, muesli munching ethos that would consider the environmental benefits attained by recycling stuff which is, perhaps, another good reason to shop in scrapyards.
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Have seen a lot of peoples buying spare parts from like ebay and the mechanic cant get them to fit for various reasons……infacta…..for president.
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I can't imagine the mirror assembly is much different from previous MG models.I'd say it could be made back into a working taxi with some creative use of Superglue.The radars and camera might throw up some errors but the car will still drive.
Does the insurance provide a rental in this situation while the car is off the road?If so they might just write it off as it would be a fair few quid to pay out rental for two or three months.They might get a decent bid on it at the auctions too.
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Probably easy enough to buy the wrong bits if you don't know what you're looking at... scrapyards are probably best visited in person, getting in front of the metal with used notes in your hand will probably get you a better deal anyway.
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I can't imagine the mirror assembly is much different from previous MG models.I'd say it could be made back into a working taxi with some creative use of Superglue.The radars and camera might throw up some errors but the car will still drive.
Does the insurance provide a rental in this situation while the car is off the road?If so they might just write it off as it would be a fair few quid to pay out rental for two or three months.They might get a decent bid on it at the auctions too.
No they say it was STOLEN not involved in a Road Traffic Incident .I suppose the thinking being Lad going for two weeks to Torravhekkia might report car stolen if he could get paid while its off the Road and then find it when he gets home parked up in Super Value Rowlagh Car Park .
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Try the EV breakers up North first but if that doesn't work...
Random info from Wikipedia:
1. SAIC (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAIC_Motor), the parent company of MG5 has a business relationship with Volkswagen in China called, guess what, SAIC Volkswagen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAIC_Volkswagen). A quick look suggests SAIC just makes VW cars in China under licence but it may be possible that VW parts fit MGs? I dunno.
2. The European MG5 EV is known as the Roewe Ei5 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roewe_i5#Roewe_Ei5_/_MG5_EV_(EP22)) in China. The Roewe i5 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roewe_i5) is also a petrol/hybrid
If he does goes shopping on Aliexpress etc, he's more likely to find a Roewe part rather than a MG5 which was only sold in Europe.
Random thought - maybe pop into 24hr mechanics or Bobo motors. Didn't they buy/sell/rent a lot of MG5 taxis? RC's database might list the biggest owners of MG taxis? Maybe they have a line on a supplier or they might do the repair themselves?
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Thanks Watty .Let the Insurance tell him where to take it .
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I wouldn't let Mechanic24 change a wheel under supervision.
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Try the EV breakers up North first but if that doesn't work...
Random info from Wikipedia:
1. SAIC (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAIC_Motor), the parent company of MG5 has a business relationship with Volkswagen in China called, guess what, SAIC Volkswagen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAIC_Volkswagen). A quick look suggests SAIC just makes VW cars in China under licence but it may be possible that VW parts fit MGs? I dunno.
2. The European MG5 EV is known as the Roewe Ei5 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roewe_i5#Roewe_Ei5_/_MG5_EV_(EP22)) in China. The Roewe i5 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roewe_i5) is also a petrol/hybrid
If he does goes shopping on Aliexpress etc, he's more likely to find a Roewe part rather than a MG5 which was only sold in Europe.
Random thought - maybe pop into 24hr mechanics or Bobo motors. Didn't they buy/sell/rent a lot of MG5 taxis? RC's database might list the biggest owners of MG taxis? Maybe they have a line on a supplier or they might do the repair themselves?
(https://i.postimg.cc/mgN3m7Wy/MG5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qNqCRhRN)
(https://i.postimg.cc/76C2r2dc/MG5-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7Gk6gfxM)
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Still not making any sense to me why someone would break in to anothers house and steal the keys of a Fookin Lecky car and then abandon it 5km away, somewhere where the Gardai could easily find it ?
It makes No Sense to me ??
Ken they rob 4 or 5 cars .Two possibly to go raid the Place they want to rob then they park off the other cars on approach roads so they can change motor .A taxi with 4 or 5 people in it would not look suspicious .
That is a Far-Fetch and still makes no sense to me.
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this special rate thing and the €3 on top is ballooning up fares. i've had a few cunts go for me already claiming i rinsed them and i can't disagree with them.
To date, I have never had a complaint or even a word mentioned over the nua "Dick Turpin" Tariff 3.
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Still not making any sense to me why someone would break in to anothers house and steal the keys of a Fookin Lecky car and then abandon it 5km away, somewhere where the Gardai could easily find it ?
It makes No Sense to me ??
Ken they rob 4 or 5 cars .Two possibly to go raid the Place they want to rob then they park off the other cars on approach roads so they can change motor .A taxi with 4 or 5 people in it would not look suspicious .
That is a Far-Fetch and still makes no sense to me.
https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2021/0525/1223889-daithi-douglas-murder-cctv-evidence/ (https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2021/0525/1223889-daithi-douglas-murder-cctv-evidence/)
The murder plot that day involved the use of four vehicles – two stolen cars and two legitimately owned cars that were "borrowed" for use that day.
A Mercedes stolen in June 2016 from Dublin’s Navan Road was the "murder car". It was burnt out close to Francis Street minutes after the murder. A Suzuki Swift, which was stolen in Greystones in Co Wicklow, was the so-called "swap car". After the murder, after snaking its way along city streets, the swap car was left at a coastal car park near the Martello Tower in Dublin’s Sandymount. Many of the cars’ movements were caught on camera. Over 1,500 hours of CCTV footage was analysed by gardaí investigating the murder.
Detective Garda Ciarán Byrne gave evidence at the trials at the Special Criminal Court about the gathering of footage throughout south Dublin relating to that day. Each piece of footage was analysed by detectives frame by frame, and evidence relevant to the movement of the cars was accepted by the court as evidence relating to the murder.
Two other cars were also of importance – a Ford Fiesta and a Mitsubishi Mirage. Both of those cars were moving around the south city at pertinent times. Shortly before 10am that morning, some six hours before the murder, the Ford Fiesta had escorted the stolen Suzuki from the Dublin 6 area towards the south city. The Suzuki was parked up close to the Grand Canal, as was the stolen Mercedes.
An important piece of evidence in the case related to something that would have seemed so innocuous to passers-by that day. The criminal cell responsible for the murder of Mr Douglas had to pay parking meters a number of times during the day. This was so as not arouse any suspicion about the vehicles, and to ensure that the cars were not clamped before they could be used later that day in the murder plot.
A few minutes before 4pm that afternoon, the two stolen cars were "activated" and began making their way into the south inner city.
I count 6 cars in that murder...
There was also a time during the Hutch-Kinahan feud (over 20 dead) when the higher-up drug dealers were using taxis to get around (anonymous, no CCTV) and to try and get through armed Gardai checkpoints in the inner city. It's quite an experience to drive someone who has that 'aura' and you know they're a very bad person. They're very quiet and they don't need to shout they're 'bad people' - you just know.
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this special rate thing and the €3 on top is ballooning up fares. i've had a few cunts go for me already claiming i rinsed them and i can't disagree with them.
To date, I have never had a complaint or even a word mentioned over the nua "Dick Turpin" Tariff 3.
they wouldn't dare...
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It'd be better if they did complain so you could explain that it's a premium rate. The vast majority that just silently bend over leave thinking that's what a taxi costs at any time effectively reducing demand at off-peak times.
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So heres the latest .The insurance are refusing to cover the Full Labour Costs .They say they pay MAX 80 Euro labour per Hour .MG want 125 and they say they will not cover the full labour costs and if they did it could result in a 12% increase in Insurance costs for EVs .As the car was stolen The Owner cannot claim for loss of earnings as he would be claiming off of himself .
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Who is the insurance company anyway so we can try stay away from them?
I don't see how this is an EV problem.All cars are expensive to repair.There's nothing different about an MG interior that's EV specific.
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Alliance they say they do not want to set precident .Probably MG > blue whatsit see an opportunity to hit taxi drivers with aHigher Commercial Rate .Like I was asking can I claim the VAT back as im registered for vat .A private motorist Cannot but what about taxi repairs .These are real issues when it comes to costs ?
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Nah this is bullshit Erm tell the dope to buy a house alarm and use it.Who wants strangers walking around their gaff in the middle of the night.Nobody is safe from this shit.
I'll bet he still doesn't have a house alarm weeks after the car got taken.Some people have to learn the hard way.
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The lad who came out to change the Door lock charged a 150 Call out charge and Got it .So locksmiths are more important than mechanics worth more per hour according to insurance .
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The garages pump up the rates for the insurance too.Theres no way there's more than two hours labour in fixing a roof liner and associated electronic....but they'll say they want to charge for a lot more hours than it actually needs.
If it was my car it would be repaired with glue and tape by now so I can work again.
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As part of the new PSV exam there should be a dedicated MacGyver module ....where candidates must answer problem solving related questions based on the popular 80s TV series.You shouldnt be allowed to own a taxi unless you can fix the easy stuff yourself.If you wait around for main dealers you'd be off the road for months and likey broke eating yer dinner in Bow street.
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Did the insurer's approved repairer provide an estimate?
If so they'll fix it for him or he can take the estimated price in used notes and repair it or get it repaired wherever he wants. If not, why not?
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Did the insurer's approved repairer provide an estimate?
If so they'll fix it for him or he can take the estimated price in used notes and repair it or get it repaired wherever he wants. If not, why not?
AH Rodent nail on head .He took it to Bluestone where it originated from got a quote for repairs .Now the rub .I told him NOT TO .Let them designate the repairer first .But Alas cotton Ears didnt listen Submitted a Quote from Main Dealers and the Insurance said they have a Labour limit of 80 notes per hour .Main dealers want 125 .So there is deadlock they wont approve the quote .He under advice from Moi threatened to sue them for delaying making a decision .So like you said they offered him Coin minus the access as he is claiming against himself .I told him to turn that down .Now they are sending him to their prefered Spanner Monkies .At least by going through their monkeys the work will be guarenteed .BUT now the issue of Warranty arises as the car was repaired by non prefered providers of Warranty .
So the Short and the Shorter after nearly one month the car is going into the Spanner monkies for repair .It should be returned in Working Order under guarentee for labour but the Manufacturers warranty may be nullified .
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CCPC warns motor industry on repairs (https://www.lawsociety.ie/gazette/top-stories/2025/july/ccpc-warns-motor-industry-on-repairs/)
The competition watchdog has issued a warning to the Irish motor industry after reports of anti-competitive practices in the sale, maintenance, and repair of motor vehicles. In a letter to those involved in the industry, the Competition and Consumer Protection Commission (CCPC) has stated that, under competition law, consumers must not be prevented from freely choosing who services or repairs their vehicle, or what parts they use. The move follows reports from motorists who have been prevented or discouraged from getting their vehicles serviced or repaired by independent garages.
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Distributors urged to review arrangements
The CCPC says that it is seeking information from motor distributors in Ireland and has urged them to review and, if necessary, amend any arrangements they have in place. It warns that, while formal proceedings have not been instigated against any firm yet, it will take action if illegal practices are identified. Additionally, the CCPC has told independent garages that they have a right to freely repair vehicles, to use non-original spare parts that are of a matching quality, and to access repair and diagnostic tools.
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Your pal shouldn't lose his warranty as long as the replacement parts are of equal quality to the OEM parts.
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Not sure if the rules are different for EVs but VAG warranties were never affected by using unauthorised facilities or DIY servicing ... unless something was done wrong directly causing a fault subsequently the subject of a warranty claim... At least that's the way it was when I bought a brand new Octavia in 2004.
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Well, there must be something wrong in the industry if The Competition and Consumer Protection Commission felt the need to issue a public warning letter to them?
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I think they've done all that before. In fact when I bought the Octavia in 2004 the salesman (Les if memory serves) referred me to the service manager (Ken) to discuss the (not so finer) points of warranty T&Cs. Ken made some mention of EU/EEC regulations in advising that main dealer servicing wasn't a necessity to maintain warranty cover. I think he advised using main dealer parts and keeping the receipts though... at least that's what I done anyway... although I did get a few free services on account of an electrical problem that took some time to resolve (over a week if I remember correctly) despite the problem being traced to a damaged wire most likely down to Mechanic 24's meter installation. That's why I was kinda surprised to hear dissatisfaction with MSLs BYD aftersales service... I've digressed but back then MDL (MSLs parent company) was the VAG distributor in Ireland and I found their service second to none, repairing the fault that wasn't their fault under warranty and compensating me with some complimentary servicing.
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I think the whole world was a nicer place 20 years ago! Things have changed a lot since then. In this thread, for example, the nasty insurance company won't pay an honest mechanic more than €80/hr for his work. What's the world coming to when mechanics are forced to work for so little?
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They charged 140 notes non refundable to give you a quote and you were probably going to give them the job ?
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Charging for an estimate has been commonplace among main stealers for a long time, erm. I guess the rationale is that most folk wanting estimates outside of the insurance firms' own networks will find a cheaper option. I'm not sue if (m)any would deduct the fee paid for the estimate from the repair bill in the unlikely event that they get the job?
I don't think it was down to them being nice, Watty... although they (Phoenix Motors up above in Dublin) were very nice people to deal with. It was the law... and seemingly still is!
However, the latest main stealer trick is updating software as part of the service. It doesn't seem that the law obliges them to make such updates available to backstreet garages and/or DIYers so they have you by the Niagras? Added to that piss taking in the extreme as far as EVs go. Brake fluid that was once specified to be replaced after 3 years and then every 2 years (by VAG) seemingly only lasts a year or 15,000 kilos now... Pollen filters that were specified to be replaced every 90,000 kilos or 6 years are seemingly only good for a year as well... gearboxes that were sealed for life (manual / dry clutch DSG VAGs) now require regular oil changes in EVs. Are we supposed to believe the quality of the fluids/parts has decreased with development or that EVs are just fitted with extremely dodgy brakes/gearboxes/AC/etc?
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I don't think it was down to them being nice, Watty... although they (Phoenix Motors up above in Dublin) were very nice people to deal with. It was the law... and seemingly still is!
I got my Octavia off them as well! Lovely people, lovely car.
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having a little bit of car agro at the minute. my mechanic is away and i don't trust the goons he has in his garage.
imagine 5 conor mcgregors shaping around the kip.
anyway went over to toyota kilbarrack got treated like an absolute cunt and mugged off at the counter.
2 month waiting list, €250 an hour mechanic rates, we wouldn't touch that car now that someone's been at it, lotsa bad language, pretendin they're tryin to help you when they've no intention, dopey dosey yungwan lookin at you etc. etc.
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What's it doing DMG?Just curious...
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pulsing, vibrating, chugging, shuddering engine worse enough to make your man boobs jiggle.
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Ok DMG.....If it's a hybrid the first thing to come to mind is the coil packs.Mate of mine has a japo import Prius and it seems to go through coil leads/packs after a couple of hundred thousand Km..His one sounds like it's having a fit until you put the new ones on.
If you have an OBD reader it should show up some codes to get you started.
No charge..
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^^^It will only be one you need but as usual it's best to change all four.
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new spark plugs, new ignition coils, new injectors and she's still acting up now and then.
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Ah shame DMG.I'd be doing the usual and checking the mechanic put the exact OEM parts in.It's unusual for them to give hassle.
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The MKII Octy failed the National Car Test on emissions for the first time in it's life last month with a smoke reading of 2.5, limit 1.5... so for the first time in it's life it got a fuel additive (namely Doc's favoured Dipetane) as well as a brand new air filter and fuel filter (despite not being due for another c.40,000 kilos)... brought it back and it passed the smoke test with a reading of 0.94 but went into a sulk and wouldn't let the inspector open the bonnet so he gave me a visual fail as he needed to check the under-bonnet VIN. Needless to say I tried to open the bonnet but old MKII was having none of it so I ended up breaking the handle/lever! It took 3 fucking hours pricking about taking the front grill off, the wheel arch liner and taking the broken handle assembly apart the next day to get it to a point where I could open and close the bonnet using a pliers in place of the handle so brought it back and got the cert.
Kinda ironic that NTA are making me keep that smoke machine on the road in favour of scrapping the Euro5.5 MKIII that's in showroom condition!
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I don't think it was down to them being nice, Watty... although they (Phoenix Motors up above in Dublin) were very nice people to deal with. It was the law... and seemingly still is!
I got my Octavia off them as well! Lovely people, lovely car.
... and you got your money's worth out of it... You can call me jealous and/or bitter... you'll not be lying!
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having a little bit of car agro at the minute. my mechanic is away and i don't trust the goons he has in his garage.
imagine 5 conor mcgregors shaping around the kip.
anyway went over to toyota kilbarrack got treated like an absolute cunt and mugged off at the counter.
2 month waiting list, €250 an hour mechanic rates, we wouldn't touch that car now that someone's been at it, lotsa bad language, pretendin they're tryin to help you when they've no intention, dopey dosey yungwan lookin at you etc. etc.
https://www.davidstokesmotors.ie/ (https://www.davidstokesmotors.ie/)
Offering free collection and delivery. I dealt with them two years ago, fast and efficient. Josh is the hybrid expert.
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what was wrong with your high bird.
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what was wrong with your high bird.
Battery Aziz!
https://images.app.goo.gl/WkHFkQeUJE4cxJRC7
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what was wrong with your high bird.
Battery Aziz!
https://images.app.goo.gl/WkHFkQeUJE4cxJRC7
https://imgur.com/gallery/true-lies-battery-aziz-scene-43B19vJ
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fuckin deadly movie. havn't seen it in a while.
apparently arnie and jim cameron wanted to do a sequel but 9/11 and the whole islamic terrorism vibe at the time wrecked the buzz.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6zD7zQihWUI&pp=ygUTdHJ1ZSBsaWVzIHNraSBjaGFzZQ%3D%3D
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fuckin deadly movie. havn't seen it in a while.
apparently arnie and jim cameron wanted to do a sequel but 9/11 and the whole islamic terrorism vibe at the time wrecked the buzz.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6zD7zQihWUI&pp=ygUTdHJ1ZSBsaWVzIHNraSBjaGFzZQ%3D%3D
How did you get on with your car?
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bad fuel we reckon.
tank drained and car going lovely again.
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Good news that it's not the car.Can ya put diesel in a petrol....
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Spanner Jockey said he will have replacement parts next mon or Tuesday .I downloaded the MG app .Today our kid was hoovering out the Desperation and Hate from the Car and set off the Alarm .I got an Instant Email to advise me somebody was messing with the motor .
The abnormal invasion into your vehicle (***783) has triggered an alarm on 22-07-2025 10:22:11 GMT+01:00.
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Spanner Jockey said he will have replacement parts next mon or Tuesday .I downloaded the MG app .Today our kid was hoovering out the Desperation and Hate from the Car and set off the Alarm .I got an Instant Email to advise me somebody was messing with the motor .
The abnormal invasion into your vehicle (***783) has triggered an alarm on 22-07-2025 10:22:11 GMT+01:00.
Make sure she tests it at least weekly!! 8)
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Spanner Jockey said he will have replacement parts next mon or Tuesday .I downloaded the MG app .Today our kid was hoovering out the Desperation and Hate from the Car and set off the Alarm .I got an Instant Email to advise me somebody was messing with the motor .
The abnormal invasion into your vehicle (***783) has triggered an alarm on 22-07-2025 10:22:11 GMT+01:00.
Make sure she tests it at least weekly!! 8)
It was hoovered for suitability in March .
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The lad going to fix it was saying the reason they pulled out the front facing unit ,might be because that contains the tracker relays information on location of other vehicles and operated warning and braking system .By ripping it out it disconnects the tracker if you have the App .
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Have the enforcement officers knocked on his door looking for their €10-20k back yet?
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He has suitability first week of September .Will it be finished by then .Needs new meter .The Insurers prefered Spanner Jockie said parts next week ? gave it a coat of looking over thursday two weeks ago took Insurers until Last Thursday to give him the Go ahead .Mg In Ballymount did not want to bother fixing it ,said parts may not be available in Europe .
Keep you updated off the road over a month now .
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Probably no use to him now but this UK crowd say they do genuine MG parts (old MG and Chinese MG) - https://www.ukmgparts.com (https://www.ukmgparts.com)
Brown and Gammons is the only major MG specialist who can satisfy all your MG needs for ALL MG models - from pre-war T Series to MGF, TF and now the brand new MGs including all the electric and hybrid ranges. We provide parts sales, full workshop facilities; bodywork through to mechanical, service & MoT.
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SO BEWARE Talking to the lad who had his motor stolen .You remember he brought it to MG and they gave him a quote but the insurance Company said they would not accept that Estimate as it exceeded their Hourly rate for labour .JOB DELAYED .They then sent out their assessor who sent the Driver to their PREFERED repairer and he quoted more for the job but the hourly rate for labour was within the range but they quoted for more hours /(MAKE THAT MAKE SENSE ) So now the latest is the Prefered repairer who got the job from the Insurers cannot access all the parts to do the job .The Driver has refused to bring the car anywhere else as it has been asigned by the insurance to this Garage .Now if they cannot repair it in a Reasonable Time ,Is he entitled to ask them to write it off as unrepairable ?
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It's still off the road, then. Dis the garage who took on the job ask him to bring it elsewhere? One would imagine it'd be up to them to farm it out themselves (with or without his knowledge/agreement) if that's what they need to do?
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It's still off the road, then. Dis the garage who took on the job ask him to bring it elsewhere? One would imagine it'd be up to them to farm it out themselves (with or without his knowledge/agreement) if that's what they need to do?
They did and he rang me and I told him to say its been assigned to you ,your problem .I also suggested a Solicitors letter to Insurers requesting they write it off as irreparable . Its getting ridiculous now .
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What would a 1yo? ex taxi MG be worth? Would he get enough to reimburse NTA and buy another car?
I'd say he'd love to find the little scrotes that nicked it and give them a good kicking.
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What would a 1yo? ex taxi MG be worth? Would he get enough to reimburse NTA and buy another car?
I'd say he'd love to find the little scrotes that nicked it and give them a good kicking.
Its a The better MG5 so he might get enough write off to replace it with an MG4 .Im sure they will cut him a good few grand .Its not a year old yet ?
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They only have the short range MG4... they're virtually giving them away so one would assume it's being replaced with a new model.
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Operation Lipstick on a Pig continues .After contacting the Insurance 8 weeks after the event demanding they write off the car .It is going in today allegedly all the parts are now available to repair it .I will keep you informed .
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Good stuff John.Did you say they provided a rental or is he just off getting paid?
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Good stuff John.Did you say they provided a rental or is he just off getting paid?
Ah he got nothing .Firstly he is claiming off himself .As no other vehicle was involved he cannot claim loss of earnings .I think if they offered loss of earnings we might just report your motor stolen when you go on holidays and park it up somewhere get paid then mysteriously find the car .This has been a total shit show .No parts available Insurance would not pay the Labour rate MG quoted .So they sent it to their designated Spanner Jugglers who couldnot source the parts .They offered my mate his car back I told him to tell them to Fuck off .If he removed it from them they would say he refused their services .A quick Phone call and threat of a Solicitors letter to have the Vehicle written off and Loss of Earnings seems to have gotten things moving .But I wait to see the car back on the road fully restored .
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Just goes to show how vulnerable we are to being off the road with these new vehicles and all their expensive gadgets.If I had to rent I'd have a meltdown.
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Just goes to show how vulnerable we are to being off the road with these new vehicles and all their expensive gadgets.If I had to rent I'd have a meltdown.
You could be the safest driver out there but all it takes is some arsehole to break a red light and you're gonzo. Horrible thought for a sunny Monday oops
I'm beginning to think along the same lines. Maybe from a long-term business perspective we might be better off buying second-hand despite the crazy prices at the moment. If something breaks, you can usually source the part from the breakers and be back on the road earning money in a day or two...
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Its the small print .The car was STOLEN not involved in an Accident so no loss of earnings .
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Wha? Does the car thief revolut the driver some money every day?
/sarcasm
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Watty i think it might say if you are off the road as a result of an Accident?
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Operation Lipstick on a Pig continues .After contacting the Insurance 8 weeks after the event demanding they write off the car .It is going in today allegedly all the parts are now available to repair it .I will keep you informed .
Nice one!
All's well that ends well.
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Just goes to show how vulnerable we are to being off the road with these new vehicles and all their expensive gadgets.If I had to rent I'd have a meltdown.
I can't imagine you or most of the other lads on here going to the extent of renting! What'd concern me would be if such forced downtime prevented renewing the plate on time hence (presumably) causing the heavy lads from enforcement to knock on your door demanding their 10-20 large in used notes.
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The bits that needed replacing have been replaced now off to Linders to be recalibrated .Paddy Power not offering Odds on it being fixed soon .
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Not all the bits that needed replacing were replaced as they are not even in the Country YET ..Suitability on 5th so no chance of NCT and Booking by then so 500 penalty for missed renewal .
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I think the penalty is halved if you can get it passed out within a month of the deadline so there is (some) hope. Having said that, just warn your pal that Linders staff will be completely uninterested in his situation.
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Johhny… what’s the main points to take away here.
Is it don’t buy a nua heep?
Is it don’t buy a lekky heep?
Is it don’t buy a heep with lacklustre after sales support?
Is it as taxidrivers/men are we financially vulnerable to external forces beyond our control?
What would the heepjockey in question do different hindsight being what it is.
Let’s take the positive ooot of the negatives heeer
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Panel allgood Points .
I Got the MG EV would not go back to Diesel as I live in the City rural or doing Grulers I would stay Diesel or possibly Hybrid ..The issue with this motor is the Parts that were stripped by the Thieves would probably never ever have to be replaced in an accident .They were ripped out because the Thieves believed they were possibly a camera .So I would think these parts are NEVER reordered so would not be available off the shelf There is a lack of technitians to fix the EVs but in time that will sort itself out .MG in Ballymount only want to Sell the cars and plug in the computer at service time not repair accident damage .Linders probably more likely to repair after accident .The Insurance preferred repairshops lack specialists and the Spare Parts are hard to obtain off the shelf .
For me Personally I like the EV nice to drive and you feel you are doing a small bit to save the Planet OH did I mention 15K on the road was the only logical conclusion at Replacement time .Or if you like I DID IT FOR THE MONEY .
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Pruis John
Jap import one
Rite it off ur tax with a credit union loan
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Panel allgood Points .
I Got the MG EV would not go back to Diesel as I live in the City rural or doing Grulers I would stay Diesel or possibly Hybrid ..The issue with this motor is the Parts that were stripped by the Thieves would probably never ever have to be replaced in an accident .They were ripped out because the Thieves believed they were possibly a camera .So I would think these parts are NEVER reordered so would not be available off the shelf There is a lack of technitians to fix the EVs but in time that will sort itself out .MG in Ballymount only want to Sell the cars and plug in the computer at service time not repair accident damage .Linders probably more likely to repair after accident .The Insurance preferred repairshops lack specialists and the Spare Parts are hard to obtain off the shelf .
For me Personally I like the EV nice to drive and you feel you are doing a small bit to save the Planet OH did I mention 15K on the road was the only logical conclusion at Replacement time .Or if you like I DID IT FOR THE MONEY .
(https://i.postimg.cc/tJq1jjt2/EV-Boomer.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HcNWwFNy)
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Panel allgood Points .
I Got the MG EV would not go back to Diesel as I live in the City rural or doing Grulers I would stay Diesel or possibly Hybrid ..The issue with this motor is the Parts that were stripped by the Thieves would probably never ever have to be replaced in an accident .They were ripped out because the Thieves believed they were possibly a camera .So I would think these parts are NEVER reordered so would not be available off the shelf There is a lack of technitians to fix the EVs but in time that will sort itself out .MG in Ballymount only want to Sell the cars and plug in the computer at service time not repair accident damage .Linders probably more likely to repair after accident .The Insurance preferred repairshops lack specialists and the Spare Parts are hard to obtain off the shelf .
For me Personally I like the EV nice to drive and you feel you are doing a small bit to save the Planet OH did I mention 15K on the road was the only logical conclusion at Replacement time .Or if you like I DID IT FOR THE MONEY .
(https://i.postimg.cc/tJq1jjt2/EV-Boomer.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HcNWwFNy)
Evs are the way of the future no question there and they’re a no-brainer for many taxi drivers, however I wouldn’t buy one partly there’s no good decent range WAVS Evs yet.
And I still like ice cars
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Panel allgood Points .
I Got the MG EV would not go back to Diesel as I live in the City rural or doing Grulers I would stay Diesel or possibly Hybrid ..The issue with this motor is the Parts that were stripped by the Thieves would probably never ever have to be replaced in an accident .They were ripped out because the Thieves believed they were possibly a camera .So I would think these parts are NEVER reordered so would not be available off the shelf There is a lack of technitians to fix the EVs but in time that will sort itself out .MG in Ballymount only want to Sell the cars and plug in the computer at service time not repair accident damage .Linders probably more likely to repair after accident .The Insurance preferred repairshops lack specialists and the Spare Parts are hard to obtain off the shelf .
For me Personally I like the EV nice to drive and you feel you are doing a small bit to save the Planet OH did I mention 15K on the road was the only logical conclusion at Replacement time .Or if you like I DID IT FOR THE MONEY .
(https://i.postimg.cc/tJq1jjt2/EV-Boomer.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HcNWwFNy)
Evs are the way of the future no question there and they’re a no-brainer for many taxi drivers, however I wouldn’t buy one partly there’s no good decent range WAVS Evs yet.
And I still like ice cars
The BYD is 450km, the iD4 is 548km range, where do you be going on a shift, grueller or not? 8)
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Panel allgood Points .
I Got the MG EV would not go back to Diesel as I live in the City rural or doing Grulers I would stay Diesel or possibly Hybrid ..The issue with this motor is the Parts that were stripped by the Thieves would probably never ever have to be replaced in an accident .They were ripped out because the Thieves believed they were possibly a camera .So I would think these parts are NEVER reordered so would not be available off the shelf There is a lack of technitians to fix the EVs but in time that will sort itself out .MG in Ballymount only want to Sell the cars and plug in the computer at service time not repair accident damage .Linders probably more likely to repair after accident .The Insurance preferred repairshops lack specialists and the Spare Parts are hard to obtain off the shelf .
For me Personally I like the EV nice to drive and you feel you are doing a small bit to save the Planet OH did I mention 15K on the road was the only logical conclusion at Replacement time .Or if you like I DID IT FOR THE MONEY .
(https://i.postimg.cc/tJq1jjt2/EV-Boomer.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HcNWwFNy)
Evs are the way of the future no question there and they’re a no-brainer for many taxi drivers, however I wouldn’t buy one partly there’s no good decent range WAVS Evs yet.
And I still like ice cars
The BYD is 450km, the iD4 is 548km range, where do you be going on a shift, grueller or not? 8)
Never going saloon again, I’m all about that WAT life.
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Talking to a few who’ve bought a EV WAV (e-Rifter) they tell me they’re getting a real world range of less than 200klms, unless your doing shopping centre work it’s not worth a fuck.
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Talking to a few who’ve bought a EV WAV (e-Rifter) they tell me they’re getting a real world range of less than 200klms, unless your doing shopping centre work it’s not worth a fuck.
How many cripples use wheelchair accessible taxis for shopping? Not worth the investment.
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You was robbed 'erm. I was talking with an immigrant who paid €8,500 (after deducting grant aid and the €1,200 he got off the scrapyard for his 2015 Prius) for a 251 reg MG5 (same model as yours in a different colour) earlier this year.
Obviously you can't beat diesel for convenience. I doubt many taximen would go EV without grant aid but with grant aid there's no getting away from the fact that you're getting a lot of car for your money where the EV is concerned. However, I don't think that justifies forcing men to scrap perfectly good cars based on age, particularly where some were given age extensions and others weren't. Putting cars into scrapyards in favour of depleting natural resources to manufacture EVs that require twice as much energy to operate and to ship them halfway round the world is never going to be anything other than harmful to the environment. I guess Govt thinking is that if folk see taximen using EVs it may encourage greater general uptake which combined with vastly increasing energy generated from renewables ought to reap substantial environmental gains in the future.
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You was robbed 'erm. I was talking with an immigrant who paid €8,500 (after deducting grant aid and the €1,200 he got off the scrapyard for his 2015 Prius) for a 251 reg MG5 (same model as yours in a different colour) earlier this year.
Obviously you can't beat diesel for convenience. I doubt many taximen would go EV without grant aid but with grant aid there's no getting away from the fact that you're getting a lot of car for your money where the EV is concerned. However, I don't think that justifies forcing men to scrap perfectly good cars based on age, particularly where some were given age extensions and others weren't. Putting cars into scrapyards in favour of depleting natural resources to manufacture EVs that require twice as much energy to operate and to ship them halfway round the world is never going to be anything other than harmful to the environment. I guess Govt thinking is that if folk see taximen using EVs it may encourage greater general uptake which combined with vastly increasing energy generated from renewables ought to reap substantial environmental gains in the future.
The only thing the Chinese do that definitely will last ten years is...Jail sentences. 8)
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Long COVID '19 anall?
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Long COVID '19 anall?
Rats, what about bats? 8)
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The beast is rebuilt but now the Computer will not recognise the new parts .So Not repaired not driveable .Questions about did the Meter installation effect the rebuild or was the designated repair shop trained in rebuilding EVs .Smells like the Four Goldmines may get involved in this shitfest 10 weeks off the Road .Might be a serious issue in future how repairable are EVs ?
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I doubt the mirror/camera/sensor unit is EV specific... most likely just powered off the 12v battery not dissimilar to any modern motor car. Taking the meter out would eliminate that from the equation. How long does it have to be irreparable before it gets written off?
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I doubt the mirror/camera/sensor unit is EV specific... most likely just powered off the 12v battery not dissimilar to any modern motor car. Taking the meter out would eliminate that from the equation. How long does it have to be irreparable before it gets written off?
That question already asked no answer but they only value an 8 month old car at 25K cost 37K
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The beast is rebuilt but now the Computer will not recognise the new parts .So Not repaired not driveable .Questions about did the Meter installation effect the rebuild or was the designated repair shop trained in rebuilding EVs .Smells like the Four Goldmines may get involved in this shitfest 10 weeks off the Road .Might be a serious issue in future how repairable are EVs ?
Not a ev specific issue John. Only difference between Ice and ev cars are the means of propulsion.
Ice cars have all the safety systems that a ev car has.
I’m trying to embrace a non tech lifestyle, ice cars… cash when I can.. limited use of debit cards..
Even bought a Nokia 6310i there the other week, wonder can I get the forum on WAP?
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Indeed you can.
http://intaxi.org/forum/index.php?wap2 (http://intaxi.org/forum/index.php?wap2)
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Indeed you can.
[url]http://intaxi.org/forum/index.php?wap2[/url] ([url]http://intaxi.org/forum/index.php?wap2[/url])
Excellent!
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I doubt the mirror/camera/sensor unit is EV specific... most likely just powered off the 12v battery not dissimilar to any modern motor car. Taking the meter out would eliminate that from the equation. How long does it have to be irreparable before it gets written off?
That question already asked no answer but they only value an 8 month old car at 25K cost 37K
That seems very low. I'd argue that 12.5% depreciation per year would be fair. However, is there not a provision in insurance policies that allows a new car for any write off under 12 months old?
In any event, should it be written off I'd suggest employing an "independent" assessor... also stick the details in Revenues VRT calculator ( https://www.ros.ie/evrt-enquiry/vrtenquiry.html (https://www.ros.ie/evrt-enquiry/vrtenquiry.html) ) but bear in mind Revenue tends to adopt rather prudent (on the low side) valuations.
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+1 on the assessor if it gets to that. We had a water/bathroom leak a few years ago. I believe the default is 'wear & tear and go fukk yerself.' But he argued our corner and got us a good lump sum. I think the system is fixed though. Our guy was 'our guy' for that week but the following week, he could be working for the insurance company afaik. So I guess they all scratch each other's back to make sure the system move along quickly (they work on commission).
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The beast is rebuilt but now the Computer will not recognise the new parts .So Not repaired not driveable .Questions about did the Meter installation effect the rebuild or was the designated repair shop trained in rebuilding EVs .Smells like the Four Goldmines may get involved in this shitfest 10 weeks off the Road .Might be a serious issue in future how repairable are EVs ?
If it's Linders, it might be worthwhile waiting a day and asking again. I believe it's possible to get 3 different answers to the same question if you ask it three times. Or so I've heard :-\
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A soft breeze blew a hard mist of rain across the M50 as the Stolen EV made its way back to base .A Shrill echo of a phone startled the unemployed taxi driver .A mumbled voice Your Car Is Fixed ! Collecting it tomorrow ? Lets see only 11 weeks .
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Hope all goes well John for your mate.Hals gone AWOL so I'll fill yis in even though I didn't ask him if it was ok..sorry....his car was diagnosed after 6 weeks waiting for an appointment and after a couple of days they've ordered the parts for the charging system and it could take between 2 and 8 weeks.So his car can be fast charged and driven but not on the house charger.It's costing him a lot more on the fast chargers but the delays are unreal.The part costs over 3k to order in.
These dealers do not give a flying fuk whether you need your vehicle for work or not.If you do but an EV try get one that won't break down.Stay well away from MSL.
Relatively easy problem from me I'm now waiting a month to hear back on my torn door seals.Zero communication form MSL.I might just buy them meslef and blank them.
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When I done the lookie lookie for an EV the one with the least problems looked to be the MG 5 .Tesla was by far the worst but it was also the oldest so probably longer to show up faults .As of now only a puncture to report .find the car a bit electrickey smelling when heater is on so have a spray air freshner So far so good .I also have a door seal ripping issue on Drivers side .Ask at next service interval see what they say ?
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Tesla are more advanced that the competition but that brings more complicated problems like everything.
My door sealed aren't leaking but it's just the cheapo materials they use.The sales man tried to make it out to be a wear and tear issue but there's fuk all mileage mine.The'yre selling average quality vehicles at Mercedes prices it ends up in shite customer service.Usually they can disguise how slow they are by giving out a loaner but that's not much use to us.
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I went for the Primark version cheap seats cheap alloys not up to me to pay for passenger comforts .Seat covering is poor finishing over all is good those door seals are flimsy .Steering Wheel showing a bit of wear and I do not wear a ring .15K no real complaint but if I paid 35K I dont know if I would be satisfied with the finish .
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Yeah John the problem is these cars are being sold in China for less than 20k without grants so they'll cut back on the quality of certain parts hoping nobody will notice.
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Yeah John the problem is these cars are being sold in China for less than 20k without grants so they'll cut back on the quality of certain parts hoping nobody will notice.
The idea might be like a Clever phone you dont repair them just update after a few years but good point you make !
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About the door seals..
The fact that both our door seals from two different brands are falling apart could be due to one big supplier making stuff a bit cheaper to save money.I'd say a lot of these Chinese yokes have some shared parts.They have over 50 car brands in China that we haven't even heard of.
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Just talking to the Balbriggan Baron .We need to check if the passenger side rubber is better quality as they drive on the other side of the road .Passenger rubber could be better quality if they are interchangeable ?
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My rear passenger side one is a lot worse than the opposite one.That's the side we usually get most single passengers getting in so it's worn more.They're likey using some recycled materials.
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Re door seals, the design of a car has alot to do with the angle that customers get into the car iirc the atto3 and MG5 are higher up cars than ordinary. That and the cars were never intended for taxi use.
The Mg5 is a nightmare to get in and out of the rear in my experience.
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The service guy was sayign something similar about the KIA e niro too but I haven't heard anything myself.The rubber feels like an old bike tube....if it was made of a foam.Not a big deal as they're cheap enough to replace but just annoying on a vehicle with 40k on it.
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Re MG5 door seal...
https://www.mgevs.com/threads/drivers-side-ripping-rubber-door-seal-mg-ev-5-year-2020.9829/ (https://www.mgevs.com/threads/drivers-side-ripping-rubber-door-seal-mg-ev-5-year-2020.9829/)
-- "Just replaced a rear rubber bought from local mg to me . Cost was around £25 fit myself 10 minute job .Not under warranty for me as I'm over 80k miles now"
-- "I've put a narrow strip of Gorilla Tape over the split in my driver door rubber seal. At least with it being shiny/smooth, it should fend off any more dragging from my clothing as I get in, hopefully...."
Parts:
UK specialist: https://www.ukmgparts.com/catalogue/mg5-midcat-2-submg5-25-front-door-seals (https://www.ukmgparts.com/catalogue/mg5-midcat-2-submg5-25-front-door-seals) (diagram included, very impressive)
Google says auto-doc.ie (FN's new best friend) sells them but I'm fukked if I can make sense of the site...
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I guess saving a bit of rubber on the door seals compensates for increased tyre wear.
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If you had enough solar panels / batteries could you charge an EV on DC at home or do you have to convert the DC from the sun to AC for the car to convert it back to DC with all the power factor loss than entails?
I guess if Hals motor won't charge on the home charger the problem is with the AC circuit or the inverter?
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Yes RC "Power domain control unit" according to Hal.Sounds like the inverter.
It might be that they don't know what exactly is wrong with it and the correct procedure is to order new parts.It doesn't inspire a lot of confidence.Most people would likely be out of warranty if thiers failed in a few years.With MSL labour the bill could be 5k or more.
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At least there's the fast charging option.
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Yes RC better than no car.Apparently MSL didn't think it was urgent enough to skip the waiting list for diagnostics because it can still fast charge.It's costing him a fair bit extra and then the hour a day charging time.Next time he logs in he might have more info.
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Most people would likely be out of warranty if thiers failed in a few years.With MSL labour the bill could be 5k or more.
Speaking with a competitor / colleague recently, he was an early adaptor 212 ID4, he had 230k KLM’s on the clock when he had to replace the inverter €3k supplied and fitted to the customer.
With the fuel savings and minimal servicing he well saved the cost over the last 4 years… but he didn’t save it as he used the money saved and had to take out a loan to cover the repairs.
To the ev lads here are ya saving some money should a big repair bill happen?
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Yes RC "Power domain control unit" according to Hal.Sounds like the inverter.
It might be that they don't know what exactly is wrong with it and the correct procedure is to order new parts.It doesn't inspire a lot of confidence.Most people would likely be out of warranty if thiers failed in a few years.With MSL labour the bill could be 5k or more.
With modern diagnostics one would imagine any fault is pretty easy to diagnose. Once you read the fault code(s) the service manuals pretty much guide you in an idiot proof manner and in a main dealer environment are most likely accompanied with integrated interactive IT based systems but you're probably right in thinking that one of two charging options being unavailable would be determined to be a low priority.
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Most people would likely be out of warranty if thiers failed in a few years.With MSL labour the bill could be 5k or more.
Speaking with a competitor / colleague recently, he was an early adaptor 212 ID4, he had 230k KLM’s on the clock when he had to replace the inverter €3k supplied and fitted to the customer.
With the fuel savings and minimal servicing he well saved the cost over the last 4 years… but he didn’t save it as he used the money saved and had to take out a loan to cover the repairs.
To the ev lads here are ya saving some money should a big repair bill happen?
50c Maguire and Patterson !
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Motor collected and road tested all looks good .There was an issue with the charger and this could be an issue for others that could be exploited by unscrupulous spanner jugglers .The Wall Charger at home needed the app to be eliminated then reinstated again .There seems to be an issue with some of the Chargers that could be missinterpreted as a car fault .Spanner Monkey say he changed of fixed the thingey then tell you to uninstall and reinstall the app for the charger or check the wi fi connection .So anybody with charging problems check the charger get your mate to try your charger .It seems common problen especially after power surges or power dropping out .Happens in Dublin "" when they test run those new Data Centers .
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Good news...all he needs now is some passengers.
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Hope all goes well John for your mate.Hals gone AWOL so I'll fill yis in even though I didn't ask him if it was ok..sorry....his car was diagnosed after 6 weeks waiting for an appointment and after a couple of days they've ordered the parts for the charging system and it could take between 2 and 8 weeks.So his car can be fast charged and driven but not on the house charger.It's costing him a lot more on the fast chargers but the delays are unreal.The part costs over 3k to order in.
These dealers do not give a flying fuk whether you need your vehicle for work or not.If you do but an EV try get one that won't break down.Stay well away from MSL.
Relatively easy problem from me I'm now waiting a month to hear back on my torn door seals.Zero communication form MSL.I might just buy them meslef and blank them.
Regarding EV's=The main dealers-stealers only want to do easy basic jobs that they can charge exorbitant money for,brake discs/pads tyres,shocks etc,they haven't got the equipment and trained people to work on what's under the bonnet.
I was told for example that Nissan have only 2 places in the whole country that can deal with open heart surgery on an EV,one is in Windsor Motor Mall in Finglas and the other down thye bog somewhere....like WTAF?
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Good news...all he needs now is some passengers.
Now you can fuck right off with your smart answers you know its not sorted .The car now needs an out of date NCT ,Then a new Meter and out of Date Suitability costing loads of Harry Enfields .Now the Insurance say they are not aware of the Meter being insured and if you read back they never paid off the Road Money .So request now sent to Insurance for Actual Copy of every insurance policy ever issued by them to see where the options were dropped and signed off .
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Hopefully he's back on the road for the Christmas rush.
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Hopefully he's back on the road for the Christmas rush.
Sorry Merch I sound like a Cunt but you cannot say Christmas any more .
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Easter then..
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When I done the lookie lookie for an EV the one with the least problems looked to be the MG 5 .Tesla was by far the worst but it was also the oldest so probably longer to show up faults .As of now only a puncture to report .find the car a bit electrickey smelling when heater is on so have a spray air freshner So far so good .I also have a door seal ripping issue on Drivers side .Ask at next service interval see what they say ?
For a lot of lads it's as much about being able to repair them or get them repaired in a timely fashion as reliability. 10 weeks off the road for a relatively minor problem would be a major headache for a younger lad with a mortgage and childers to educate.... not to mention the prospect of NTAs heavy lads from enforcement banging your door down looking for their €10-20 large back in used notes. With VW (for example) we all know they're not the most reliable yokes on the road but we also know bits and pieces are readily available and if you don't mind getting your hands dirty most faults will be rectified within a day or two and will cost less than the price of an EV tyre once the warranty expires. In warranty main dealer repairs are generally quick enough, probably within a week or so, for established brands such as VW, Toyota, etc...
Anywaysanall, good news on the stolen car. All's well trhat ends well, I guess.
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Nobody carries spares as the product changes by the week unlike Tesla same car is 8 years old .Anudder thing .The Chinease car manufacturers use Just on Time delivery .If they need 1000 items per day thats exactly how many they will get delivered the crowd who make the parts will only make 1000 per day .So any spares mess up the delivery .Plus there are huge problems in China with Suppliers getting paid they have to wait until the car is sold before they get paid .So tens of thousands of unsold cars messes up the payment system .So based on money there is none to be made by holding a lot of spares .
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what happenned. is hal's fancy electric car riddled.
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what happenned. is hal's fancy electric car riddled.
Small problem when charging If China made Pacemakers RIP.
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The Japs invented JIT. Hence you can get any part for a Toyota (or Sony, Panasonic, Mitsubishi, Sharp, etc) manufactured in the last couple of decades anywhere in the world within a day or so, within reason.
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MG probably made more profit from the little few bits and pieces the stolen car needed than from selling the car. That's where the money is which might explain why they're not too concerned with wear and tear. We might consider Toyota service intervals to be mad in this day and age but there's method in the madness, no doubt about that.
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what happenned. is hal's fancy electric car riddled.
Small problem when charging If China made Pacemakers RIP.
the yoke won't charge?
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About Hals heap...
The car has two charging methods.Slow charger off the house and fast charge at the petrol station.
His slow charger on the car won't work so he's sitting for an hour everyday paying for pricey electricity at whatever public charger he's using.I think most of us would agree there's no point having an electric car if you can't charge it cheaply and while you're in bed.
The dealer isn't much help and don't seem too bothered about his situation.
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oh for fuck's sake.
why is he not on here is he in the horrors.
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Dunno where he went I've been texting him to get all the info because I have the same heap minus the problems.No doubt he'll be back.He's still on the road I've seen him in town.
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About Hals heap...
The car has two charging methods.Slow charger off the house and fast charge at the petrol station.
His slow charger on the car won't work so he's sitting for an hour everyday paying for pricey electricity at whatever public charger he's using.I think most of us would agree there's no point having an electric car if you can't charge it cheaply and while you're in bed.
The dealer isn't much help and don't seem too bothered about his situation.
Has he been quoted to fix the issue? I assume he’s out of warranty
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Yes Panel it's covered under warranty but it took them six weeks to get him in for diagnostics and now they're waiting on the parts which could be another six weeks.
I've said it before there's no point having a warranty if it takes them months to resolve the issue.I assume it's cost him a good few quid extra on electricity too with the public charging.
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is it possible there's nuttin wrong with the car and maybe his home charging setup is riddled.
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Unfortunately DMG he's tried other chargers and it's not working on those also.Even when the dealer had it they couldn't immediately diagnose it without calling in expertise from another part of the company.
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NCT this morning ?
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Does the NCTS inspection include checking the AC charging system?
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Does the NCTS inspection include checking the AC charging system?
No they dont check the fuel flap on your OKkie ?
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Does the NCTS inspection include checking the AC charging system?
On a recent NCT with one of my heeps they checked the drawbar light socket as they plugged in a trailer lightboard to ensure the electrical components were working.
Passed BTW.
Yes John they do check the fuel filler door & cap iirc
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Does the NCTS inspection include checking the AC charging system?
No they dont check the fuel flap on your OKkie ?
Not sure whether you're saying yes or no there or asking or telling me that they don't check diesel fuel flaps. As Panel suggested, they probably do but it's never been an issue for me. I keep my fuel flaps in pristine condition.
If they don't check the AC charging system it shouldn't be an issue for Hal. The manual is published online so he could verify that in advance, I guess.
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They might open the cover and check for damage but I doubt they'd be failing on something like this unless it showed warning lights somewhere.
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Indeed. It's hardly a roadworthiness issue unless, as you suggest, there's obvious physical damage to HV wiring/fittings. I'd say she'll fly/sail [delete in accordance with colloquial preference] through.
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Yes Panel it's covered under warranty but it took them six weeks to get him in for diagnostics and now they're waiting on the parts which could be another six weeks.
I've said it before there's no point having a warranty if it takes them months to resolve the issue.I assume it's cost him a good few quid extra on electricity too with the public charging.
I guess the warranty gives some assurance / insurance where potentially expensive repairs might arise. An EV battery, for example, would make Ken's DPF expenses look like small change and then there's all the control modules that run into thousands of euros each.
I've read a few reports on different makes on tinternet of late. It seems that no manufacturers/dealers are particularly efficient when battery problems arise. Obviously it's new technology and there's way OTT safety protocols such as requiring two adequately qualified technicians to work in a dedicated exclusion zone to tackle anything HV related. The actual process of dropping a battery out is a piece of piss once you have a ramp and hydraulic table. Main dealers don't seem to go beyond changing the entire battery unit which out of warranty will never be cost effective but I have seen videos from enthusiasts showing individual modules being replaced. The 10-20 (depending on manufacturer) modules typically each contain 12-24 cells depending on manufacturer but replacing individual cells isn't possible or viable as the modules all seem to be hermetically sealed. There is one YouTube video showing a bloke tearing an ID4 module apart which is quite interesting, the cells in that are pouches rather than cans.
I'm not sure if/when EV battery demand will ever reach a level as might attract independent specialists to rebuild them but until/unless that happens EVs are essentially fucked once a battery cell/module/internal control unit/etc dies.
Bearing all that in mind the fact that MG restrict their battery warranty to 3 years or 100,000 kilos for taxis is a big minus compared with VWs 8 year / 160,000 kilo battery warranty. However, one interesting comparison between those two brands (subject to verification) suggests that an MG HV battery weighs c.125Kg compared to the VW one weighing c.500Kg. Obviously that has implications for both fuel consumption and the potential for DIY repairs when the warranty expires.
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The more I hear of problems in EVs --the more I think Ill stay with ICE --too old to bring more hassle into my life there is so little of it left --per the stats !
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^^^^They're big bills alright RC and I'll likely never be paying one.If my heap need something like that out of warranty and I couldn't find reasonably priced parts I'd just scrap the car.I wouldn't want a car that needed that much money pumped into it every few year only to be waiting on the next big failure.I've never spent more than a few hundred on repairs on any vehicle.
My trust in the vehicle would be gone And it would bother me to keep it.It actually bothers me that Hals is fecked as it's very likey to happen to mine the longer I keep it.Plus the time I hit Hal's mileage mine would be likely be out of warranty
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I'm kinda thinking that way myself, Punter... but bear in mind my OCD can make me look for problems that don't exist. I guess one of the reasons nobody is investing in EV repair infrastructure (be it main dealers or independent specialists) is that they don't fail often enough to justify the same. Conversely, there are many horror stories from all brands (notably from the US) on the internet. Blokes waiting months (even for VW) to get their motor on an EV ramp isn't unusual... obviously not a big deal for a private car that's replaced with a fossil fuel rental while waiting but I haven't heard any evidence of dealers prioritising PSVs which could be subject to grant aid clawback in such circumstances.
I'd say a man of your technical ability could readily repair an EV battery, MfH. No different to the Prius really, just bigger and heavier.
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Now that I think of it, when the erm and I visited the Toyota dealership in Liffey Valley I was quite impressed with their workshop facilities, complete with NCTS style viewing windows and free coffee... but I don't recall seeing any dedicated EV service/repair bay(s). They may well exist but I'll be looking a bit closer if grant aid puts me back in the market next year. I'd also be inclined to ask other dealers if they have such facilities available to display.
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A Niece of mine is married to an EV hot shot in a main dealer and he evens says majority of main dealers with his marque have SFA knowledge of workings of EV --he travels from one dealer to another to sort out minor enough problems but major issues on warranty they don't touch and await HQ to play chicken with Punter whether to twist or fold on the costs ---he drives an ICE as do all his kin !!
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I don't like ICE being recycled. ICE stands for In Car Entertainment. I much prefer FF i.e. fossil fuel.
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It's hard to know why main dealers shy away from battery replacement if they have a couple of (shared) technicians. From the few videos I've watched online swapping out a battery is a couple of hours work at the outside - Ed China singlehandedly took one out, repaired it and refit it in that sort of timeframe - yet they all seem to quote 12-24 hours, presumably based on two men working on it but perhaps compensating for the space necessary preventing another two, three or four mechanics working on other stuff? I suspect transporting the batteries must be awkward, particularly disposing of the old one.
One would imagine in an ideal world they'd like to fully discharge the scrap to make it safe to handle/store ahead of recycling but I gather lithium batteries are rendered useless if they drop below c.80% of their nominal voltage so a complete discharge would remove any possibility of any modules/cells being recycled as working batteries as seems to be the green intention. I'd say it'd be interesting to calculate how much more it costs to recycle/repurpose a battery than it costs to manufacture a new one, taking all the special handling by appropriately qualified personnel at each stage of the process into account.
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... although thinking about it... if they removed all the links between the individual modules they'd be left with a box full of c.22v (e.g. MG) - c.40v (e.g. VW) batteries - instead of a single c.400v battery - which ought to be safe to handle, if not store. As the batteries spend their working life attached to motor vehicles they must be safe to transport in any state! Maybe part of the labour is actually time spent disconnecting modules in the old battery?
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I heard of a established guy from Kesh driving an old Prius that had a problem with a "module " took it out and replaced it himself--no problem !
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Indeed. I think MfH repaired his own Prius battery. Again, I have somewhat limited knowledge of these things but I did get a bit sidetracked into hybrid (Toyota in particular) battery repairs when researching an inverter coolant pump fault in the younger not so young lad's Yaris.
From what I gathered modules (although they're referred to as cells whether or not they actually are individual cells being largely irrelevant) aren't readily available new so rebuilders essentially select working cells from second hand batteries. They can grade individual cells by measuring the internal resistance and consequently offer various grades of rebuilt units to suit different budgets.
Obviously you're dealing with much lower voltage and far fewer cells/modules in a hybrid than in a real EV so they're probably considerably less dangerous / complicated to work on. I daresay you'd need to remortgage your gaff to buy a new hybrid battery from Toyota!
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Just to clarify/contradict most of the above I had a bit of a Google:
A typical Toyota Prius hybrid (HV) battery operates at approximately 201.6 Volts, composed of multiple battery modules or blocks connected in series to achieve this voltage.
Toyota Prius uses prismatic NiMH modules from Panasonic. Each module consists of six 1.2 V cells connected in series.
I'm sure MfH would be better informed than I but 201.6v ÷ 7.2v suggests there's 28 modules to check. AFAIK you can read live data through the OBD so you ought to have a fair idea of what modules are fucked before picking up a spanner, rubber glove or multimeter, I guess.
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I can't remember all the details but the old batteries could be disassembled like Legos.But the new ones are spot welded together to save on production costs and ultimately build in some sort obsolescence.Each car varies a lot in how much to you can fix on them.
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main dealers are desperate. i've had dealings with the toyota mob in kilbarrack and the bugsy malone gang up in navan. ye know the way we talk to cunts in the car. that's the way they talk to you they do. appalling it is.
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I don't like ICE being recycled. ICE stands for In Car Entertainment. I much prefer FF i.e. fossil fuel.
And, "Immigration and Customs Enforcement" in Cankle's USA
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Internal Combustion Engine !
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main dealers are desperate. i've had dealings with the toyota mob in kilbarrack and the bugsy malone gang up in navan. ye know the way we talk to cunts in the car. that's the way they talk to you they do. appalling it is.
They go through phases, largely linked to the economy, in my experience. I remember many years ago when the flywheel went on the MKI Octy, as I didn't know what the noise was, I rang Annesley Williams and they had zero interest. The lady on the phone told me that it'd be 3 weeks before a mechanic could have a listen to it and suggested I bring it to my regular mechanic. Of course I told her I drive a Skoda so I don't have a regular mechanic. Anywaysanall, I brought it to Owen in Howard Engineering and he diagnosed the clutch/flywheel before I got out of the car. I'd previously had a head reconditioned for the Astra by Howard Engineering and was suitably impressed with Owen's attention to detail in explaining various things to watch out for when refitting the head. It was quite clear that there was nothing he didn't know about the workings of a FF engine. Roll the clock forward to less prosperous economic times and the same Annesley Williams were practically begging for work with special offers and such like when I got them to replace Gretta's timing belt inc. water pump, pulley and what not. Long and short of it is they don't want the likes of us lowering the tone when there's plenty of middle class clients with cash on the hip but they're happy to take our used notes when things are slow.... although, to be fair, you'd probably get better service if you used them for every oil change or, in the case of a (Toyota) EV, give them a few hundred notes for the mechanic to scratch his testicles every few thousand kilos.
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I can't remember all the details but the old batteries could be disassembled like Legos.But the new ones are spot welded together to save on production costs and ultimately build in some sort obsolescence.Each car varies a lot in how much to you can fix on them.
The ones I came across were probably the lego ones. All held together in series by nuts and bolts... in fact it seemed common enough for lads rebuilding them to connect them in a custom made holder (a bit of 2x1) in parallel and leave them overnight to balance themselves, quite interesting stuff. In fact the younger not so young lad's Yaris is the first hybrid I ever worked on so I was a bit apprehensive with all the new technology and orange cables I had to disconnect to get at the inverter coolant pump but, to be fair, it might be new (to me anyway) technology but Toyota really do build stuff like they used to. Anyone used to working on VAGs will have a comprehensive set of Torx, Triple Square sockets and such like... with the Yaris it's all good old fashioned hex nuts and bolts, probably not much in it you couldn't dismantle with a €1.50 set of spanners from the pound shop. Moving to spot welds on battery cells/modules of that size turns that completely on it's head, I guess. I'd imagine you'd need a pretty good heavy duty spot welder to tackle those... not the sort of thing you'd want to do a half arsed job on given a machine packed with flammable materials!
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Yes RC unfortunately with the newer battery chemistries like lithium they're probably a bit worried DIY enthusiasts would cause problems.The newer batteries are almost impossible to take apart without damaging them.Part of it is to save on manufacturing costs and other part I reckon is to stop or slow down thermal runaway should one of the cells have been incorrectly installed/replaced.
I used to watch a channel on the YouTube called Munro engineering and they specialize in telling manufacturers how to save money on production lines.Usually the less fasteners the cheaper the cost.So as long as it lasts through the warranty period they don't care about repair.Toyota seem to be better than most.The latest hybrid batteries are spot welded together but the chemistry in them is also some sort of lithium vs Nickel metal hydride they used to use which isn't as delicate.
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Coincidentally I have a mickey mouse spot welder on it's way to me from Temu to reassemble a wheelchair battery. Having tried several "junp start" tricks suggested on tinternet it became clear that the (less than 2yo) battery had some internal fault so I couldn't resist taking it apart for a look. It's a 25.2v battery comprised of 28 3.6v 3200mah cells all neatly contained in a plastic holder so there's 7 "blocks/modules" connected in series with each block being comprised of 4 cells connected in parallel. A quick check with the multimeter identified one dead block but to get at any block/cell it was necessary to break the spot weld on all 28 cells top and bottom. That done it was clear that one cell had leaked i.e. it was physically damaged and the other 3 cells in the same block measured 0v compared with all the (24) remaining cells measuring 3.6v - unfortunately my cheap multimeter doesn't go low enough to measure internal resistance so I've nothing to learn from that. Anywaysanall, I ordered 4 cells from a specialist in Holland for a score including delivery and the little (probably useless) spot welder for €30 just to play with it.
I've no intention of redeploying the battery whether it works or not when I'm finished with it, in fact a stg£500 new one has already been ordered from the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. The chair isn't used much but when it is it's generally abroad so I don't want to be the bloke identified on a future episode of Air Crash Investigation as bringing down a Ryanair flight to the Costa Del Crime with an inadequate spot weld!
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Coincidentally I have a mickey mouse spot welder on it's way to me from Temu to reassemble a wheelchair battery. Having tried several "junp start" tricks suggested on tinternet it became clear that the (less than 2yo) battery had some internal fault so I couldn't resist taking it apart for a look. It's a 25.2v battery comprised of 28 3.6v 3200mah cells all neatly contained in a plastic holder so there's 7 "blocks/modules" connected in series with each block being comprised of 4 cells connected in parallel. A quick check with the multimeter identified one dead block but to get at any block/cell it was necessary to break the spot weld on all 28 cells top and bottom. That done it was clear that one cell had leaked i.e. it was physically damaged and the other 3 cells in the same block measured 0v compared with all the (24) remaining cells measuring 3.6v - unfortunately my cheap multimeter doesn't go low enough to measure internal resistance so I've nothing to learn from that. Anywaysanall, I ordered 4 cells from a specialist in Holland for a score including delivery and the little (probably useless) spot welder for €30 just to play with it.
I've no intention of redeploying the battery whether it works or not when I'm finished with it, in fact a stg£500 new one has already been ordered from the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. The chair isn't used much but when it is it's generally abroad so I don't want to be the bloke identified on a future episode of Air Crash Investigation as bringing down a Ryanair flight to the Costa Del Crime with an inadequate spot weld!
RC stars in the new version of:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdXoDwGQT78 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdXoDwGQT78) 8)
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WAIT FOR IT ....The Stolen motor is back on the road .The Dirth that stole it stole half a dozen more cars last weekend but burned them out .Now the stolen motor parked up in Crumlin Village some cunt hit it and broke rear light lenz .No Spurious ones available none available from main dealers .Its a real problin getting parts for these Chinese motors ..Are the lights sealed units .If a bulb goes do you need to replace the lot or can you replace bulbs ?
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WAIT FOR IT ....The Stolen motor is back on the road .The Dirth that stole it stole half a dozen more cars last weekend but burned them out .Now the stolen motor parked up in Crumlin Village some cunt hit it and broke rear light lenz .No Spurious ones available none available from main dealers .Its a real problin getting parts for these Chinese motors ..Are the lights sealed units .If a bulb goes do you need to replace the lot or can you replace bulbs ?
Check with Mechanic 24, Stuart rents them out and might have a wreck.
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WAIT FOR IT ....The Stolen motor is back on the road .The Dirth that stole it stole half a dozen more cars last weekend but burned them out .Now the stolen motor parked up in Crumlin Village some cunt hit it and broke rear light lenz .No Spurious ones available none available from main dealers .Its a real problin getting parts for these Chinese motors ..Are the lights sealed units .If a bulb goes do you need to replace the lot or can you replace bulbs ?
Check with Mechanic 24, Stuart rents them out and might have a wreck.
Put a bit of tape on it .He can borrow my lenz when he is doing his NCT .I wonder if replacement parts for the MG5 estate will be available now its discontinued ?
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Just about Chinese repairs....I was texting Hal and he got his car sorted last week after 17 weeks.6 weeks waiting on diagnosis and the rest waiting for parts and getting another appointment to repair it.Took them two days in the workshop.Apparently it was a 3k part.
He had use of his car but they deemed it not to be a priority because it was still possible to fast charge it on the public chargers.Hope he gets no more grief.His yoke has 120000km.
Honestly if I was buying again tomorrow,Hal's story and my own dealings with MSL would be enough to turn me off the electric heap.
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MG5 TAIL LIGHT INNER ON TAILGATE LEFT SIDE LH 2020-2024
https://www.evbreakers.com/product?pid=MG5+TAIL+LIGHT+INNER+ON+TAILGATE+LEFT+SIDE+LH+2020-2024&sku=21416 (https://www.evbreakers.com/product?pid=MG5+TAIL+LIGHT+INNER+ON+TAILGATE+LEFT+SIDE+LH+2020-2024&sku=21416)
~stg£70 plus shipping?
(https://www.evbreakers.com/image/eladene/evbreakers/stock/500/21416/1)
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Thanks Watty
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WAIT FOR IT ....The Stolen motor is back on the road .The Dirth that stole it stole half a dozen more cars last weekend but burned them out .Now the stolen motor parked up in Crumlin Village some cunt hit it and broke rear light lenz .No Spurious ones available none available from main dealers .Its a real problin getting parts for these Chinese motors ..Are the lights sealed units .If a bulb goes do you need to replace the lot or can you replace bulbs ?
AFAIK it's a sealed unit if your bulb goes,replace the whole unit...fukkin ridiculous
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Light bulb for an ID4 is c.€1,500 -vs- €4 for my MKIII Octy. The whole world is gone mad, so it is.
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Just about Chinese repairs....I was texting Hal and he got his car sorted last week after 17 weeks.6 weeks waiting on diagnosis and the rest waiting for parts and getting another appointment to repair it.Took them two days in the workshop.Apparently it was a 3k part.
He had use of his car but they deemed it not to be a priority because it was still possible to fast charge it on the public chargers.Hope he gets no more grief.His yoke has 120000km.
Honestly if I was buying again tomorrow,Hal's story and my own dealings with MSL would be enough to turn me off the electric heap.
120k in a little over 2 years... Fair play, I don't know where ewes get the energy from... no wonder he has no time to type shite with us anymore but his charging issue doesn't seem to have held him back to any great extent. FFS, I've done c.160k since I bought my MKIII Octy in 2019!
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It's a fair bit alright RC.Mine has 43k and it's the same age.I think Hal might be working a fair bit in Dublin.
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Hyundai Ionic ? Brothers Son in Law dynamic EV grease monkey --part of the strobe headlight gave up 1700 quid --headlight 2200 quid --
Definitely cooling on EVs --
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I suspect all modern cars are the same with consolidated body parts - remember when bumpers where just a bit of metal bolted onto the car? Now it's a grand or more (plus the whiplash claim) if you tip another car!
They're cheaper to make but they also make a fortune further down the road as they need replacing. Feckers >:D
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WAIT FOR IT ....The Stolen motor is back on the road .The Dirth that stole it stole half a dozen more cars last weekend but burned them out .Now the stolen motor parked up in Crumlin Village some cunt hit it and broke rear light lenz .No Spurious ones available none available from main dealers .Its a real problin getting parts for these Chinese motors ..Are the lights sealed units .If a bulb goes do you need to replace the lot or can you replace bulbs ?
Check with Mechanic 24, Stuart rents them out and might have a wreck.
Put a bit of tape on it .He can borrow my lenz when he is doing his NCT .I wonder if replacement parts for the MG5 estate will be available now its discontinued ?
Just on that point John, a lot of new cars (ice and ev) alot of electric parts have to be paired to the new car as the secondhand part still thinks it’s in the old car and won’t talk to the car your putting it into. Not as simple as plug and play technology in cars any more nearly every part that’s been changed in a car in the last 4ish years has to be electronically paired to the car. (Window motors, headlight units, infotainment systems et al)
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Some bleedin' racket that is.
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Light bulb for an ID4 is c.€1,500 -vs- €4 for my MKIII Octy. The whole world is gone mad, so it is.
He's driving a Chinese MG5, keep up man!
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Im down the Flats with Nodger and asking him .He says its like this .If them Chinkmobiles are crap there will be plenty of them for Scrap .So you will be able to get bits .If their Not Crap you wont need bits .Its as simple as Dat ..Nodger dosent say much but when he does !
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Im down the Flats with Nodger and asking him .He says its like this .If them Chinkmobiles are crap there will be plenty of them for Scrap .So you will be able to get bits .If their Not Crap you wont need bits .Its as simple as Dat ..Nodger dosent say much but when he does !
Nodgers logic works on an analogue motor.
Time was 1/3 of a vehicles repair cost was enough to send a heep to the scrappers ifn it was in a rta.
Have a rta in a 5 year old heep or newer, between modules, part costs and sensors even the smallest tip could write off a yoke.
Again not a ev or Ice specific problem it’s all new-er cars now.
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Im down the Flats with Nodger and asking him .He says its like this .If them Chinkmobiles are crap there will be plenty of them for Scrap .So you will be able to get bits .If their Not Crap you wont need bits .Its as simple as Dat ..Nodger dosent say much but when he does !
Nodgers logic works on an analogue motor.
Time was 1/3 of a vehicles repair cost was enough to send a heep to the scrappers ifn it was in a rta.
Have a rta in a 5 year old heep or newer, between modules, part costs and sensors even the smallest tip could write off a yoke.
Again not a ev or Ice specific problem it’s all new-er cars now.
Think you hit the Nail there Panel .These EV are made like mobile phones or Tellys they go wrong you buy a new one .Im into this for 15K would not pay 35K for a replacement vehicle .
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+1. EV's are lovely to drive but you're at the mercy of the garages if something goes wrong. And I don't like that >:D
I might hedge my bets the next time and get a hybrid. I used to think you were doubling the trouble with 2 engines but you might be doubling your chances of staying on the road and earning a living?
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Watty I lifted the bonnett the other day to fill the window washer .Noticed a bit of rust around the cut out holes in the sub structure for the bonnet .Sosent look like it was primed well .Make you wonder about the rest of the car.In time will they have rust problems ?
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I think the paint is very thin.
Some/most cars have vents/pipes running from the top of the engine bay to the bottom to let water drain away. Sometimes leaves etc get clogged up and that might be causing the rust? Maybe see if those vents (if we have them) are blocked. If there was rust problems, I think the UK fan site (https://www.mgevs.com/forums/mg5-ev-forum.5/) would have mentioned it already - they salt their roads like crazy.
I spoke too soon - 50/50 on whether rust is a problem - Is rust a problem on early MG5s? (https://www.mgevs.com/threads/is-rust-a-problem-on-early-mg5s.19618/)
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Light bulb for an ID4 is c.€1,500 -vs- €4 for my MKIII Octy. The whole world is gone mad, so it is.
He's driving a Chinese MG5, keep up man!
Is she petrol or diesel?
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Changing the model is what put the MG5 off my radar when I was seriously considering going EV to avail of the last round of grant aid. As I said at the time the big plus is Watty's experience - which I reckon is shared by the vast majority of MG5 owners - i.e. a pretty much trouble free yoke that'll do the job for relatively small money (small money after grant aid compared to a 5/6yo diesel car).
As per this thread there's plenty of MG5s in scrapyards so I doubt there'd be any great difficulty sourcing parts unless you're committed to getting a job done under warranty. I doubt there's as many scrap MGS5s about as they're new so that is a minus in my mind as is the smaller boot size and the fact that MG restrict the battery warranty to 3 years for taxis as opposed to 7 years for private cars. Still, they're c.€8,000 cheaper than an ID4 or BZ4X so you'd still have to quantify and weigh up the value of an extended battery warranty and perceived relative confidence in a locally established brand, I guess. It's all new tech so certainly not as straightforward as concluding that Toyota make the best Hybrids and VAG make the best diesels.
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I think the paint is very thin.
Some/most cars have vents/pipes running from the top of the engine bay to the bottom to let water drain away. Sometimes leaves etc get clogged up and that might be causing the rust? Maybe see if those vents (if we have them) are blocked. If there was rust problems, I think the UK fan site (https://www.mgevs.com/forums/mg5-ev-forum.5/) would have mentioned it already - they salt their roads like crazy.
I spoke too soon - 50/50 on whether rust is a problem - Is rust a problem on early MG5s? (https://www.mgevs.com/threads/is-rust-a-problem-on-early-mg5s.19618/)
I clear that regulary .Its the actual Bonnet ,The frame that holds the Bonnet Skin is pierced with a few hole they seem to be rusted .If I knew how to post a Pic I would .?
Admin Edit : unsubstantiated content removed.
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What's the issue you're having with the Radio Module... is that just the normal AM/FM wireless?
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What's the issue you're having with the Radio Module... is that just the normal AM/FM wireless?
Not my post Rodent .Just found that on the MG Forum seems like the bonnett issue is not just me .
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FFS, I have to log out and log in as admin to delete it now. If you're posting content from other sites it must contain a link back to that site.
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FFS, I have to log out and log in as admin to delete it now. If you're posting content from other sites it must contain a link back to that site.
Watty already posted the Link I took the time to read it on behalf of our Huge membership and quote it .Did not think Repetition was necessary as most on here posses the intellect to cross reference .
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In that case it's already there in the required format, erm. If you reckon folk need you to read for them just tell them what you read in your own words or include the link if copying/pasting.